As a member of the alphabet soup group, Pride was only ever meant to be about being comfortable and able to be OURSELVES without discrimination or persecution. I don't need your support. Your apathy and minding your own business is enough. Forcing people to support a message they don't agree with is the exact OPPOSITE of what Pride is all about.
That and it's weird to explicitly tell straights that there is no place for them in pride, while demanding that especially straights display "allyship". It's the polarizing attitude that gets me rabidly opposed. I don't particularly mind who does whom, so long as everyone is happy and consents. Tbh when I was young the couple that most displayed a strong loving bond were my uncles, and there was nothing odd about it. They still are one of the most loving couples I know. I do mind hostile attitudes. That's the bunch of faeries for whom I bring a can of deodorant and a lighter.
@@sneezyfido no one said that there is no room for straight cis people in pride, unless they are going there to cause trouble in which place they will likely have to deal with police. LGBTQ people are quite welcoming to all people. They don’t tend to discriminate and they don’t tend to try to push anything on anyone. All they want is the right to be themselves as they were born and celebrate their fight for civil rights.
People who are saying this doesnt happen, look at the major sports leagues. Players were pressured to wear pride uniforms. Same thing If you look at tech companies like Uber at their company events. This absolutely happens.
Not only is pride political, but it’s also capitalist as well. Rainbow people (such as myself) buy goods and services the other 11 months out of the year. Why do we need special pandering to for one particular month? It’s not like people do the same thing for Black History Month. (I’m also Black). Or Asian American pacific islander month. Why don’t other races and groups of people get pandered to in such a capitalistic manner for their month? It’s also rude to think that just because you’re not straight then you live in this Candyland of rainbow themed merch. A lot of people just have a little flag at their desk that they put in their cupholder and have normal decor like everyone else.
I won’t wear anything administered to me unless by a health professional. Hives from eyeshadow even though I clearly wrote my allergies taught me that.
Employers have pretty substantial leeway in determining what their employees must wear and how they must conduct themselves as a condition of employment. You DON'T have to do it, but your employer DOESN'T have to continue to employee you, particularly if you live in a "right to work" state where they can basically terminate your employment for any reason or no reason at all. You could, of course, always try the "my religion" strategy, which might or might not work but which would almost certainly be a long, expensive court battle.
You have a very good point. The way I see it is if I want to keep my job, I must oblige. And if I don’t want to oblige then I can start the process of changing jobs which will take about 6 months if you are in a professional role. This is all because I’m not rich enough to be out of work for any amount of time.
I remember a Starbucks worker who got fired for not wearing a pride badge. I don’t know how common it is, but stuff like this does happen and it’s absolutely within the workers’ rights to not have their freedom of expression violated by corporations who are just looking to make a quick buck off Pride.
@@darkcoeficient I guess that depends if you’re a mall Santa for a job, then yes it’s the uniform for sure. But if you work at a retail counter, can they tell you to wear a Christmas hat? Provide a tee shirt that says half price sale? A pride lanyard? The video especially points out the “customer facing” element.
Every retail store I've worked for has simply made it a "Hey, if you want to wear one, you're allowed." Only thing my retail employers have ever enforced has been uniform requirement. Actually, I just got back from work where this past week has been themed days. Zero people have had their job security threatened for not participating. People who are supporting pride - have their ways to support it while being uniform compliant. I would think if my company wasn't so strict on the uniform, just reading the memos passed around... I honestly am surprised they haven't tried to figure out a way to make it a requirement. I'm honestly assuming the above scenario is exactly why it's not.
Honestly, I didn't agree nor disagree with the video. I believe in nuance for everything, but after reading the comment section.... Yeah, I agree and y'all keep that same energy if it was a MAGA hat 😂😂😂😂 LGBT+ PRIDE is political and choosing not to participate is whatever. But sure lets see how far yall get with "acceptance" calling everyone out their names 24/7 😂😂😂
A a practicing gold-star gay, no, I will not be wearing your rainbow tiara. This is not really about pride. It's about the ethical responsibilities of employers. Would not be any different from forcing me to wear a MAGA hat, which I am also not going to do. That being said, I have never heard of any gay-owned business that has required things like this. This situation is hypothetical for a really good reason; It doesn't happen in real life.
Never seen this. Maybe it’s specific to a certain city, state, province or country? Where I’m from, it’s all about letting people be themselves and not forcing anything on anyone. Employers ask if the employees could participate but never force it and never reprimand them for saying no… though, generally, they don’t do that anyway and it’s usually the employees who ask if it’s ok to wear pride things to work.
being gay isn't a choice, but being a bigot is. I don't think anyone should ever be forced to celebrate pride, but a lot of people who are against people for being gay should consider how unwarranted it is.
That’s not at all what the video is about. It was made clear that the lady isn’t a bigot. Celebrating pride month or pride in general is disgusting and wrong. Pushing ideologies and agendas in this way is disgusting as well. Some of us are sick of it.
@@SaraSaraBoBara1 There's nothing wrong with people who have been labeled unkindly getting together and saying 'We're happy with who we are and having community events." and I don't think there's anything wrong at all with people who've been pushed down standing tall, but yeah I don't think anything should be overly forced on others. I do think children growing up being taught to judge character by other things than ones sexual-orientation is a generally good thing though.
Nah mate if it's company policy then you don't really have a choice. Your bigotry isn't federally protected to way lgtq is. It's not compelled speech. If you disagree the company can discipline or dismiss you as they see fit, simply call it insubordination. I don't know any that would but it's their right as they're signing the checks. Also no one asked her for that cake in the first place so that ruling was nonsense to begin with.
@@ExtraLargeGarfield well, no. Because its not true, just like the original statement I commented on lol - saying something doesn't make it true. More obviously though, ofc christians can be discriminated against. But in a majority-christian nation, comparing these two issues is like comparing apples and buckets of bullshit.
This is twaddle. The bakery that brought the case before the Supreme Court was absolutely discriminating against the gay couple who only wanted an effing wedding cake, just like everyone else. Happy Pride, y'all! ❤️💜🧡💛💚💙
As a member of the alphabet soup group, Pride was only ever meant to be about being comfortable and able to be OURSELVES without discrimination or persecution. I don't need your support. Your apathy and minding your own business is enough. Forcing people to support a message they don't agree with is the exact OPPOSITE of what Pride is all about.
That and it's weird to explicitly tell straights that there is no place for them in pride, while demanding that especially straights display "allyship".
It's the polarizing attitude that gets me rabidly opposed.
I don't particularly mind who does whom, so long as everyone is happy and consents.
Tbh when I was young the couple that most displayed a strong loving bond were my uncles, and there was nothing odd about it. They still are one of the most loving couples I know.
I do mind hostile attitudes. That's the bunch of faeries for whom I bring a can of deodorant and a lighter.
LGBTQ+
Should be LGBSTQ+
Ultimate ownage by including straight people lol
Maybe check with some other members of your group, i don't think they see it that way
Love the panderers
@@sneezyfido no one said that there is no room for straight cis people in pride, unless they are going there to cause trouble in which place they will likely have to deal with police. LGBTQ people are quite welcoming to all people. They don’t tend to discriminate and they don’t tend to try to push anything on anyone. All they want is the right to be themselves as they were born and celebrate their fight for civil rights.
People who are saying this doesnt happen, look at the major sports leagues. Players were pressured to wear pride uniforms. Same thing If you look at tech companies like Uber at their company events. This absolutely happens.
".. you a have duty for my mental and physical well being at the work place.."
Oh sweetie you've got HR so wrong. That's not why they are there.
It may be different in the UK as opposed to the US. Agreed with you where the US (where I live) is concerned.
You go girl!
Not only is pride political, but it’s also capitalist as well. Rainbow people (such as myself) buy goods and services the other 11 months out of the year. Why do we need special pandering to for one particular month?
It’s not like people do the same thing for Black History Month. (I’m also Black). Or Asian American pacific islander month. Why don’t other races and groups of people get pandered to in such a capitalistic manner for their month?
It’s also rude to think that just because you’re not straight then you live in this Candyland of rainbow themed merch. A lot of people just have a little flag at their desk that they put in their cupholder and have normal decor like everyone else.
And if they force it on other's, it just makes them hate you. Same as if a company forced a person to join a religion they approve.
One particular month? Its more like an entire season
Absolutely 😊
The short answer is "no." Employers cannot force you to celebrate anything.
Being old and retired is looking better every day.
For real
True. If I were still employed and my employer told me I had to wear a rainbow item, I'd have told him/her to shove it up their ass!
I won’t wear anything administered to me unless by a health professional. Hives from eyeshadow even though I clearly wrote my allergies taught me that.
Full Rottweiler mode 😂
Brought out from hibernation just for the video 😂
Employers have pretty substantial leeway in determining what their employees must wear and how they must conduct themselves as a condition of employment. You DON'T have to do it, but your employer DOESN'T have to continue to employee you, particularly if you live in a "right to work" state where they can basically terminate your employment for any reason or no reason at all.
You could, of course, always try the "my religion" strategy, which might or might not work but which would almost certainly be a long, expensive court battle.
You have a very good point. The way I see it is if I want to keep my job, I must oblige. And if I don’t want to oblige then I can start the process of changing jobs which will take about 6 months if you are in a professional role. This is all because I’m not rich enough to be out of work for any amount of time.
Looks like I rolled "situations that never happened" on today's RUclips Roulette
I believe this type of thing has happened. I could be mistaken.
I remember a Starbucks worker who got fired for not wearing a pride badge. I don’t know how common it is, but stuff like this does happen and it’s absolutely within the workers’ rights to not have their freedom of expression violated by corporations who are just looking to make a quick buck off Pride.
@@AshiStarshade it has. lookup Krogers, the american grocery store that tried to force two woman to wear a pin.
looks like "leftist gaslighting you" on todays comments.
Looks like your brain rolled out of your skull as well, id say go look for it but I doubt you have a magnifying glass handy.
Curious what people think. Are you entitled to refuse to wear the Christmas hat your employer wants you to wear? Is it the same thing? Or a poppy pin?
Unless it is part of the uniform
@@darkcoeficient I guess that depends if you’re a mall Santa for a job, then yes it’s the uniform for sure. But if you work at a retail counter, can they tell you to wear a Christmas hat? Provide a tee shirt that says half price sale? A pride lanyard? The video especially points out the “customer facing” element.
Every retail store I've worked for has simply made it a "Hey, if you want to wear one, you're allowed." Only thing my retail employers have ever enforced has been uniform requirement. Actually, I just got back from work where this past week has been themed days. Zero people have had their job security threatened for not participating. People who are supporting pride - have their ways to support it while being uniform compliant.
I would think if my company wasn't so strict on the uniform, just reading the memos passed around... I honestly am surprised they haven't tried to figure out a way to make it a requirement. I'm honestly assuming the above scenario is exactly why it's not.
Honestly, I didn't agree nor disagree with the video. I believe in nuance for everything, but after reading the comment section.... Yeah, I agree and y'all keep that same energy if it was a MAGA hat 😂😂😂😂 LGBT+ PRIDE is political and choosing not to participate is whatever.
But sure lets see how far yall get with "acceptance" calling everyone out their names 24/7 😂😂😂
Imagine someone putting on a MAGA hat with a rainbow in support of pride.... Would be epic
@@darkcoeficient 🤷♀️🤷♀️ IDC genuinely I think both sides are evil and will never change so 🤷♀️🤷♀️ I wouldn't be surprised 🤣🤣
@@darkcoeficient Liberals would be too confused as to whether or not to hate!
There are a lot of angry bigots in the comments (looking at you, rainbows). also, there are lawsuits showing that this has happened.
A a practicing gold-star gay, no, I will not be wearing your rainbow tiara. This is not really about pride. It's about the ethical responsibilities of employers. Would not be any different from forcing me to wear a MAGA hat, which I am also not going to do.
That being said, I have never heard of any gay-owned business that has required things like this. This situation is hypothetical for a really good reason; It doesn't happen in real life.
Whilst the content is exaggerated for effect, there are workplaces attempting to force employees to celebrate pride.
@@Employment_with_Amy Professional sports being a big one. Requiring their players to wear jerseys/sweaters with a Pride theme.
@@AshworthMild yes, absolutely.
Never seen this. Maybe it’s specific to a certain city, state, province or country? Where I’m from, it’s all about letting people be themselves and not forcing anything on anyone. Employers ask if the employees could participate but never force it and never reprimand them for saying no… though, generally, they don’t do that anyway and it’s usually the employees who ask if it’s ok to wear pride things to work.
everytime a leftist lies, it just divides us more. it has happened. there are won lawsuits showing so. in america anyway
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What s your Problem
Bigots are forcing their agenda on normal people. that's what
being gay isn't a choice, but being a bigot is. I don't think anyone should ever be forced to celebrate pride, but a lot of people who are against people for being gay should consider how unwarranted it is.
Actually it's not. (and no, I am not endorsing being one. It's just a fact)
That’s not at all what the video is about. It was made clear that the lady isn’t a bigot. Celebrating pride month or pride in general is disgusting and wrong. Pushing ideologies and agendas in this way is disgusting as well. Some of us are sick of it.
Pfff… there is no such thing as free will
@@SaraSaraBoBara1 yeah i agree, people discriminate white people too just bc theyre not a “minority”
@@SaraSaraBoBara1 There's nothing wrong with people who have been labeled unkindly getting together and saying 'We're happy with who we are and having community events." and I don't think there's anything wrong at all with people who've been pushed down standing tall, but yeah I don't think anything should be overly forced on others. I do think children growing up being taught to judge character by other things than ones sexual-orientation is a generally good thing though.
Nah mate if it's company policy then you don't really have a choice. Your bigotry isn't federally protected to way lgtq is. It's not compelled speech. If you disagree the company can discipline or dismiss you as they see fit, simply call it insubordination. I don't know any that would but it's their right as they're signing the checks. Also no one asked her for that cake in the first place so that ruling was nonsense to begin with.
explain to me, how not wearing something is "bigotry"?
Lol keep that same energy if it was a MAGA hat 😂😂😂😂
lmao "it's not compelled" you went to school in a llack neighborhood it seems. where there weren't any books or higher thought.
What’s a llack neighborhood?
@@LoveAndSnapple it's a hood responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime that RUclips's AI auto-filters.
"Discrimination works both ways" wtf why is this nonsense in my feed 😂😂
what if i just start saying “it is impossible to discriminate against gay people”
Does that make it true?
@@ExtraLargeGarfield bixgirl in braindead. you'll have to break it down to 2yo terms
bixgirl is a bigot and is mentally 2yo. you'll have to break it down. "discrimination isn't only when you think it happens"
@@ExtraLargeGarfield well, no. Because its not true, just like the original statement I commented on lol - saying something doesn't make it true. More obviously though, ofc christians can be discriminated against. But in a majority-christian nation, comparing these two issues is like comparing apples and buckets of bullshit.
This is twaddle. The bakery that brought the case before the Supreme Court was absolutely discriminating against the gay couple who only wanted an effing wedding cake, just like everyone else. Happy Pride, y'all! ❤️💜🧡💛💚💙
Just as other companies discriminate against straight people for forcing them to wear pride crap.
Pride comes before the fall. Happy landing!!
Forget that shit.