Comedian Claims He Defeated Every Argument Against Gun Control - Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Steve Hofstetter
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Part Three of my video debunking the video, "Defeating every argument against gun control"
In that video, comedian Steve Hofstetter made a video where he claimed he defeated every argument against gun control with a total of 23 points.
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I decided to make my video to retort all 23 of those points.
Because the gun debate is far more intricate than a 15-minute video, and there's so much to unpack, I decided to break my video into five parts.
So, this is part THREE addressing arguments Eleven through Fifteen.
Argument 11 - The government is bound to mess up gun control, unless you're advocating abolishing all laws, you can't make that argument.
Argument 12 - Gun ownership is a right and not a privilege people don't understand any of our other rights.
Argument 13 - It's not a god-given right because God didn't write it, James Madison did. Only 3 countries have gun ownership in their constitution so unless you think the entire world is a bunch of godless heathens then just keep this argument to civics.
Argument 14 - Gun control has worked over 100 times in other countries. It doesn't have to work, it just has to work better. Look at Mothers Against Drunk Drivers in the 1980's.
Argument 15 - 95% of the gun crimes in Chicago comes from guns purchased outside of Chicago.
Steve Hofstetter & others who are pro gun control are entitled to their views on gun control issues. Please always be respectful to others including Steve Hofstetter and their views whether you agree with them or not.
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I've been waiting on this video so long I was a little bit late to the party watching the first and the second video fucking back to back then I'm looking for the third one
Dude, stop calling this guy a comedian. He is a hack RUclipsr.
Good try carrot top.
Has this guy seen any of these videos yet? I really want to see him try to defend his original video haha
Brother Colion, I love your advocacy and your exposure of false equivalence covered in statistics absent of context. You made/make it clear that it isn't just in Chicago but in many cities where poverty can no longer be treated as coextant with violence but must be recognized as producing the conditions in which for those to thrive who prey upon the unarmed and facilitate their wallowing in the false belief that they are incapable of changing things in their communities for the better, so 'here's some cheap drugs to numb the pain of your seemingly inescapable existence.' Sadly if someone were to pass a law (or set a Supreme Court precedent, wink wink) which outlawed any infringement of the 2nd Amendment and gun retailers took the opportunity to sell (technically) guns to the would be victims of criminals in large cities for pennies on the dollar (because LIVE customers come back to buy more guns than dead ones do) the gun grabbers would claim that said retailers are acting against the public goods and are as such a public nuisance worthy of being eradicated.
Dude we got so lucky with colion. A young dedicated well above average intelligence lawyer, deciding to advocate for the 2nd. He’s better at this than we could’ve asked for imo.
Don't forget that he's black too so you can't disagree with him or you're racist
@@nevla. More like his cogent argument can’t be immediately disqualified by imbeciles throwing out baseless accusations of white supremacy/nazism/racism
Colion Noir for President 2024.
Let's go Brandon.
Thank you Colion and thank you Harrison for not mentioning race. It is irrelevant and divisive.
keep fighting the good fight Colion. you're a boss and our best weapon in this fight. you boil it down so perfectly. Love and respect.
I was amused at the citation of a history degree from Columbia as somehow validating his positions. He might as well have said, "my family has more money than yours therefore my opinions carry more weight."
That sums up the modern generation quite well. 90% of these useless wastes of oxygen went to university for a degree they'll never pay off, and end up with jobs they didn't go to school for, yet all they (might as well) screech is "I went to school and you didnt"
Might as well wear that debt as a badge of honor since they're stuck with it, I guess
Clearly that was where he learned to be a piece of trash.
I have a history degree, I even studied the Constitution..... that dosen't make me an expert on the Constitution!
I don’t think he learned history correctly. If he did, he would know that disarming citizens, aka gun control, is pretty damn totalitarian. (Germany, Russia, Cuba, etc.) That “comedian” is a walking joke.
A history bachelors lmao. Easy ass degree to get too
I’d be willing to bet my 2A rights that this “comedian” has not told one genuinely funny joke in his career.
Apparently he gets heckled every show
He hasn't.
The dude is a goof.
Meh, he's got some pretty funny jokes. I'm disappointed by his attacking the second amendment though.
@@OldManShoutsAtClouds He has no choice. Goys can't have guns, and they're desperate to see that happen.
OMG "Then my sexy black ass has to sit up here and deconstruct these deceiving stats..." I had a good laugh, that was awesome.
Comedian: "I am educated."
Colion: "I'm going to make a complete fool out of you by shredding every ridiculous argument you make while humbly never mentioning my own superior credentials."
Argument from authority is pretty dumb
I'm not as upset with the guy lying and being wrong on everything he talks about...
I'm just upset with him calling himself a comedian. That affects lives, but?!?
Do you know how many people choking on milk click to a comedy video to hopefully shoot milk out their nose in time only to kill themselves before dying of milk choking from unfunny videos?
@Matt Carey it's like the medical field.
We have huge advancements in technology for Healthcare, all the while we have a huge degradation of the quality of healthcare professionals.
@@_notbrandon They anti-gun debunked don't usually go on the invited debate. They usually just get angry if you don't 100 percent concede like their audience is built to.
Some do.
But the adamant ones usually make excuses on why, even when the others in the past offer money. Many times they bail out and claim that the one inviting them was scared. It hypes their audience that buys it and will only listen to them. They know it and it's their source of money.
I find a lot of then to be dishonest grifters. Sometimes flawed logic...not always.
There are videos of the debate, but really it's not usually a debate. The same side will throw insults or blame the other for violence. When not pointing to specifics or one or 2 the other will state numerous and statistics and the other goes mad.
Many of the times their debunking vids use a graph or so that have conflicting statistics. They will have vague sources the other debunk debunked will have to search hard for the actual statistic.
Usually they post it hoping nobody will do so themselves.
It's been law for nearly 245 years. For some unknown reason, I don't think "I am educated" will fly too far in a court of law. Consider the source and time. A.O.C. is supposedly top of her class! She would have to cheat to break 100 on an IQ test! Oil, A gas. I'm so confused!
Mr. Noir needs to state that he is a lawyer, and he would put his BAR exam up against hoffsteter’s “history degree,” any day of the week.
That would require him to be just as insecure as hoffsteter.
@@monsterhunter6400 the dude isnt a comedian. Hes a bully who made a career from being heckled.
You know as well as anyone that the dip $#it comedian doesn't have the integrity to go head to head with Colion.
The difference between an educated idiot and an intellectual is that the idiot will brag about his education, while the intellectual will debate with facts.
Awesome
😂" then my sexy black ass" I woke up my son from laughing at this. Keep educating people my friend!
Absolutely loving this! Are there parts 4 and 5?
The comedian has an over inflated sense of his own self importance.
Breathing in your own flatulence does that to a person.
He does Look at his stupid vids where he picks on regular people in the crowd and feels like he did something great
... as do ALL lefty's
No s*** have you ever seen his videos?
@@atozproductions9660 wouldnt want to actually watch it.
"I'm an honors graduate with a degree in history from Columbia!"
Occupation: comedian. 🙄
Correction.
Occupation: failed comedian
His statement here speaks louder volumes than all of his alleged points put together. The fact he is an honors graduate from Columbia who has no real occupation...truly a raging success story... lmfao 🤣
There's nothing wrong with being a comedian. It's being an unfunny one that is the ultimate failure.
He IS a JoKe
@@natethegr8230 *Occupation:* Pretentious and sanctimonious 'progressive' wannabe comedian.
You can’t change the mindset with facts of those whose agenda is to disarm you.
3:12 "just know that it was cringy"
I think Colion made more people laugh with this one line than that comedian has his in his entire career.
I love how this guys argument boils down to we are already violating the rest of your rights why not more?
His section on other rights had me saying, "Yes, those are also infringed upon. Qualified immunity derives from the explicit mission of law enforcement to pursue violent threats, something private citizens aren't. That's basic stuff.
Finally, a good guy with a gun shooting someone isn't violating due process, it's an exercise in self defense. These are clearly different things.
Despite his lauded degree, he can't do basic reasoning.
@@latetotheparty7551 Or he was betting the general public can't do basic reasoning, given Dimocraps have been running public education into the ground for decades it was a fair bet. Home school your kids, people.
I nearly died listening to that statement from "The Comedian".
Dude says 10th amendment and talks about states rights and acts like everyone is just ok with federal law superseding state law… I mean there was a whole civil war about people who believed slavery should have been up to the state and not the federal government. Idk what he is trying to argue with that 10th amendment concept.
@@scotty7591
Mostly right, but the Civil War was not originally about slavery. It became about slavery when Abe Lincoln (who wanted to free slaves and send them back to Africa) realized it would be politically convenient.
Said it before and I’ll say it again…best joke Steve has ever told, is that he’s a comedian.
Hofstetter isn't qualified to be a bad _punchline,_ let alone a comedian...
I use to like him...but he turned into another Jim Jeffries.
yea...I used to like Steve...but he's become more and more pretentious. So far, all I've heard him say is that he's smarter than everyone else.
@@eide99 He's always kind of been like that. He needs to tone it down and just stick to comedy. He's clearly bothered by people calling him out if he has to "mention" his college degree. He should have a respectful debate with Colin if he knows better then everyone.
Don’t even know who the guy is
Im 57 years old , you my friend are the future for gun rights please dont give up please!!
Sir, you are an inspiration. I finally got my wife to take a handgun safety course ( I'm a veteran, but I took the course with her so she wouldn't be alone, and I'm deadly with a M16A2, but I wasn't real familiar with handguns). She got a Glock that she named "Heather Glocklear". She was always against owning a firearm, but a combination of the violence of BLM and the constant threat of losing our 2A right, really opened her up. I showed her some of your videos, educated her when she had questions, and taking the safety course, helped make her realize that guns are a tool, and nothing more.
We are planning to purchase our second firearms now that we have taken the Conceal Carry Course.
I don't know you or your wife but I already love you guys. Heather Glocklear is a perfect name for a Glock. I'd love to hear what she'd call a 1911.
@@anon_y_mousse lol, I'll ask her. She named my gun "Lex Luger".
@@kevinashley478 I feel like if you guys were my neighbors we'd be best friends. She definitely has the best gun names.
@@anon_y_mousse Most likely, we would be. Especially if we were neighbors. I'm 45 and I remember growing up in my neighborhood, back when being a neighbor had its own responsibility.
@@anon_y_mousse I just told her, she says thank you, LOL
"Farts into a rolled up bedazzled copy of his Columbia degree!" Seriously killed me. I actually laughed out loud.
I am so stealing that line.....
I laughed out loud…oooof 🤣
Came to the comments section to upvote this comment
Yes me to LMBAO
Shoutout to the Prius episode of South Park...
“All these other rights have been heavily restricted and bastardized, so that means it’s okay to restrict other rights”
This guys logic is fucking astounding
Pretty much the longhand way of saying: "Govern me harder, daddy!"
‘This right gets restricted more than the other rights historically so that makes it okay’
Your ability to think critically becomes drastically impaired when you chase your dinner with a heaping helping of male genitalia.
Slavery was once legal. So was killing Native Americans.
That is why we have the human right to own and carry guns.
This series is GREAT so far!
Loving it.
I love all your content, but these are top-notch verbal slapdowns. Keep up the good work my friend.
I wish I could be as articulate as he is. If I were the person who made this video it would just be me showing the first guys video and stating in different ways after each "point" that he's a complete and utter moron.
He straight up used the violation of one right to justify violating others. "Because other rights are violated" is not a good argument. That dude really should demand a refund from that college.
It's the same logical fallacy of pointing out something bad a politician does and someone deflecting with the bad behavior of a politician on another party. All ya can think is "neither politician is justified in their actions, so pointing out one on a party you don't like doesn't justify the bad behavior from one of your party's own"
I'm actually really greatful he mentioned his alma mater. If these are the type of graduates it's pumping out, I'll be sure not to send my children there.
Thats exactly when i had to stop the video. Like yep, thats where this is going eh.
You Nailed it. Steve isn't as Smart as he Thinks he is. He's the quintessential Dunning Kruger subject.
How true that is
@@LOWERCASEJOKE Oh Hey, Female Body Investigators.. thanks for the comment. I have been a fan of you guys a long time. (sorry, I could not resist)
Everyone can think they're smart when they're alone and talking to a camera. Then somebody win actually is smart steps up and makes look like a fool. Heck I'm Einstein when I'm by myself.
@@aaronb6727 exactly, he should debate mr noir since he wants to enter this arena of politics and rights.
There is a LOT of that going around these past couple of years....
Excellent work thank you. You stand up and stand out. And for that much love. Ones again thank you so much
Brilliant. Keep these videos coming.
When someone decides to try and take your life. They have forfeited their right to due process.
in that moment it becomes an issue of legal self defense. if the person lives, they'll have the right to earn the legal consequences of their actions if they are still alive.
@@pc5440 what if its a pregnant mother who shot her boyfriends crazy ex girlfriend?
Judicious use of deadly force
It is also amazing how this literal comedian thinks that the inmate trying to kill you is not trying to violate your due process. Is due process actually due process if it can be arbitrarily taken by a criminal? I think not.
Also by chance they do survive and are arrested. They get due process
"The tenth amendment advocates states rights, yet there are many federal laws which supercede those" Yeah thats the problem lmao
He also overlooked the 9th amendment, The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Or to put simply just because we called certain rights to be protected doesn't mean that the people don't retain more and those right are to also be protected.
States rights is just a euphemism for violating rights on a state level.
People tried doing that a few centuries ago and now people think the civil war was about slavery
@@canedewey756 easier to attack a scapegoat than to admit that you are wrong about everything you think you know.
@@nil981 More about protecting rights on a state level. Your state might think Weed is bad and should be illegal, but another state might not. Regardless which side you sit on this argument, remember the other side could be the one in charge of the Federal government and thus force you to do what they want against your views... if states didn't have rights.
Love it. Where’s the other parts
Is part 4 coming? Thanks for this 🙏🏻
I wish this comedian/constitutional scholar, Would put his money where his mouth is and do an actual debate with you... Well said as always Colion.
I want to be the moderator for that one!
no one wants to debate Colion because #1 he knows what he is talking about. #2 he also has a law degree to my knowledge - so he knows how to argue haha #3 they know they can't suppress anything because it will be released uncut and to the internet. there is no anti-gun person with the balls enough to actually put their ideas and theories against someone else's, they love the echo chamber and the half truths that he media will show while ignoring the other half.
@@pc5440
I’ll never understand how people that consider themselves smart can’t understand clearly defined words and phrases with punctuation.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I wish he would move to those gun safe zones and live there for a few years.
I'd watch the debate between you two
"The 2A isn't a right."
Me: *points to the Bill of Rights title*
I know lol. Its like....ok one of these guys.
Yes ! & if you read it you’ll discover it’s listed 2nd on the list ❤️
Lmao
@@AnarchyThirtySeven Think you're going too fast here. Need to break it down into more steps for some people to get the picture
Mind as well said: You have no right to defend yourself from criminals or Tyrannical Government
Your knowledge and counter points were awesome, thanks!
Man, this is your best one yet!
“Increase the pretentiousness of his own flatulence” damn, that was gold!
Coffee out my nose hurts..... LMAO at Colion's comment about that ass clown
Yep, that was pretty good.
I know, right? Still laughing.
That guy is one annoying "intellectual." He definitely thinks he's wayyyyy smarter than he actually is. Love to see you rip his bullsh!t apart.
More like a sanctimonious, psuedo-intellectual.
Fucking fake intellectual vomits on a PowerPoint script
Some how thinks threats to the (legally defined as) innocent have their rights violated when they get one tapped by SRT guys
Still uploads his pathetic rant to the internet
Goes to show degrees don’t always mean what they say
Best one yet bro 💯
Loved this series, man. Really good job.
I love the entirely unjustified smug this guy exudes. Whenever people like him think they're "destroying" pro-2a folks, they're actually putting on a "stepping on multiple rakes" demonstration.
ok I'd pay to watch him actually step on several rakes
@@SubieNinja Come to think of it, I would too
@@SubieNinja Rakes made in China.
This comedian has reached his full form. He went super saiyan, no longer telling jokes, but becoming one.
His jokes were never even actually good. His whole schtick was *acting* irritated when he would get heckled because he knows for a fact that's the reason he's popular.
@@razztastic I think you’re reading to much into it. 😊 I’m just calling him a 🤡. I’m sure he was an alright comedian b4 the woke wave and covidians took over. But you’re right, he made a career off the backs of hecklers.
He's got less than 1M subscribers and he's been at the comedy scene for at least five years, so obviously he's a failed B-line comedian at best, and is trying to boost his significance by going political the cheapest way possible - going anti 2A, and jockeying for anti 2A subscribers & followers. If this guy was truly worth a sh!t, he'd be a lawyer, but seeing how easy it is to crush his "defense", I don't think he'd make a good lawyer at all, which is why he's a failed comedian approaching his mid-40s trying one last hail marry at viral stardom by attacking 2A, failing abysmally as many are finding out day by day.
He’s not even funny.
Great debunk. Keep it up.
Love the content on your page. Keep it up.
The thing is, the last “assault weapons” ban which ended in 2004, the government concluded that the effects against violence were minimal at best, and they stated it wasn’t worth another try
The CDC deemed it had no discernible effect PERIOD and saw when oblamer 1st heard the news and was disgusted HAHA!
Gonna guess that was maybe the CBO part of the government and not say, the Sheila Jackson Lee wing of the government.
@@seanberthiaume8240 They also omitted defensive gun uses from their published study. That opened up a can of worms when that was discovered 😂. Oh, potentially more than 2.5m dgu’s per year! Yeah, that you would think would be a pretty important detail in their “gun crime study”?
@@96stealth The problem with defensive gun use statistics is the fact they're based on surveys.
I highly doubt there are over 2 million defensive uses of firearms in a year. At least not against credible human threats.
That's not to say that there are none... but the range on the estimate provided by the CDC is absolutely massive. Anywhere from 300k to 2.5m is a hell of a statistical margin.
However, even if we go by the lowest provided number of 300k... that's still TEN TIMES more defensive uses of firearms per year than annual gun-related deaths... and that's including the 66% of gun deaths that are suicides.
@@kevinwalter2674 Well, I know another study was just done by a college with the biggest survey by far and a range wasn’t given. They came up with 1.8m I believe. I heard about it on a podcast, but haven’t looked up the study.
Isn't it strange how "murders' became "gun deaths" when he was talking about what states had the highest rates? Really makes you think ...
Holy shit lmfao you are completely right. Suicide is a huge part of that number, like i’m quite sure over ~40% of gun deaths are due to suicide
@@trippie_fabio3181 John Lott has been researching this statistic for the past 30+ years and he's the leading expert in the field. I think Colion interviewed John a few months back, and it was every bit as epic as one would expect.
Right? I just did a quick search and found about 179 total gun deaths in Alaska during the year 2019. Thats total, for a state with so lacks gun laws, that doesn't sound horrible. Now also, that includes 65% of them being suicide (roughly the numbers we're familiar with given suicide and firearms). Which means around 117 were suicide related deaths. It said in the same year, 28% were from homicide, so about 50. Because homicide is the main issue, because suicide is a completely different one, 1 death every week isn't something I want. But it's far less tragic than they like to claim.
And that's not to mention that more guns means more likely hood of gun deaths is a "well duhh" statement. A country that has more cars is more likely to have more car related deaths. Places with high drug use (legal or otherwise) is more likely to have more drug related deaths. A place where fast food is more widely available, you guessed it. Will lead to causes that bring about more deaths.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 that’s exactly the argument the libs love to combat “BUT MUH GUN VIOLENCE BUT MUH MALL SHOOTING EVERYWHERE IN THE STATES” a decent number of americans never even seen guns up close and personal. The media exaggerates the living shit out of the severity of these deaths, not to forget that gang related shootings can also fall into the mass shooting category.
@@trippie_fabio3181 yep, you hear a school shooting for the next 3 months on the media but never the self defense cases that are statistically 50 times more likely according to the CDC compared to homicides. And like you said with gangs, are like 80% of gun related deaths by homicide from drug and gangs? Which means if we as a society both avoided that shit and cracked down on the gangs, there would be far, far fewer homicides with firearms.
Waiting for part 4, my guy.
Great series, Colion !!
I guess he’s never been the victim of a home invasion…. Let’s go Brandon.
And wants young females to be the victims of home invasions as well.
So happy to see this series continue.
Seriously, I've been waiting for part 3 to drop for ever (at least it seems like forever).
Me, too
That close was so aggressive 😂
Amazing video!
bring on part 4 🤘
Fighting to stop a violent aggressor is denying them their right to due process?! I never knew the right to due process is the right of violent attackers to harm or kill me or my family. It’s hard to believe that anyone would buy in to such an awful idea, but there it is, right in front of our faces.
Stop. You're adding logic into something illogical. Unlike this "comedian" you live in reality where you're responsible for your own safety while he gets to have armed security with him 24/7.
It's the same people that think criminals have a greater right to life while trying to kill you than you do. Especially as you lived since that means they didn't actually kill you. You're worth more to them dead so they can use you as a statistic than you are alive.
Everyone knows that their right to due process includes killing you, so that we can sort it out later in the judicial system that he pointed out can't give you a timely trial. Apparently real life is a turn based game to this "comedian".
Don't worry, this guy is a failed B-line comedian with less than 1M followers and he's using his anti 2A rant to boost his comedy career politically (a la The John Stewart stable of so called stand up comedians who end up doing Ted Talks and not comedy, all of whom really aren't funny or talented). There's a reason this "comedian" is not something worth any real salt (like a lawyer, which he obviously thinks he is), because in court he'd get his ass WHOOPED.
When you hear a person throwing stats around Rember: “Figures don’t lie, but liars figure”.
Numbers don't lie but they also don't talk. They depend on people to do the lying for them.
"Lies, DAMN lies, and Statistics."
Where did this quote originate from? Otherwise, I'll just quote you.
@@stevedodge7025 The phrase is attributed to Mark Twain, yet there is earlier, and different versions in print, so the true source can be said to be anonymous, or to a skeptical society.
@@hollisbishop6890 Yes, I've read that the original is essentially anonymous... but at very least Twain made it a popular aphorism, so it doesnt hurt to attribute it to him.
Love your content. Keep up the great work.
I can't wait for part 4.
Ahh, so neither rpart 4, nor 5, have been released.
Comedian’s argument: “Self Defense contradicts a criminal’s right to due process.” I don’t want to infringe on the criminal’s rights!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😡😡😡 When your life is on the line, can anyone imagine that crossing your mind?
Exactly. He compared several fundamentally different things despite his lofty degree. 🙄
"Oh man, I know that guy is raping my wife at gunpoint and i should stop him, But i don't want to infringe on his right to due process..."
-Steve, Probably.
That one was SHOCKINGLY stupid. That's like saying, "locking your doors at night is an infringement on my freedom of movement".
Yeah, I just can’t wrap my head around people who are intelligent but have no common sense. He acts as if none of his comments are open to scrutiny.
Like the comments already posted. Walking in on your wife being raped or( I’ll take a different take) of not locking my doors any more, because why? It’s already illegal to break into my house.
These people live in a world that they think nothing will ever happen to them and if it does they’ll just blame not having enough laws. 16-20,000 homicides a year despite it being illegal to kill people.
Then their answer to that is “SO WE JUST SHOULDN’T HAVE ANYMORE LAWS THEN HUH” Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m saying. 🙄🤦♂️
I'd like to see him say these same things as a criminal cuts his throat for a dime.
The logical fallacies littered throughout this dude's points is phenomenal.
Yeah it's kind of disappointing Noir doesn't point them out by name, but at the same time just arguing them works well so meh.
@@sirgreedy88 I think talking through the point as to why it's wrong is more important than name dropping a categorical logical error.
@@HorkSupreme Yeah, It's just he makes so many that pointing it out before addressing them would have been icing on the cake.
If he pointed out the fallacies, the video would be twice as long. Specially if he had to define what each one meant at the time. Maybe as a final video he can do a longer compilation video pointing out each of the fallacies?
@@MyAramil He could just do like a text overlay that defines the fallacy while he mentions it, then proceed with the counter argument. Meh. Oh well.
One of your best!!! Thanks, Colion!!!
3:16 Okay, Much respect to Colion Noir for his calling out using a degree to justify pseudo- intellectual arguments. I am going to brag for him in this comment as Colion is a lawyer. His law degree trumps the comedian's history degree. I appreciate Colion's stance as having a degree does not infringe on someone else's right to question you. As a matter of fact a degree is supposed to be respected because people who have them are supposed to be knowledgeable enough to answer questions regarding the subject of their degree. It isn't worth anything if someone can't do that. If any one needs a lawyer find one who isn't going to stand on the whole my degree makes me right crud.
Colion's law degree doesn't trump the comedians history degree. That's just fan boy thinking. His arguments and logic should be all that is necessary to trump the comedians arguments. Being a lawyer doesn't seem to play much if any role in the counter arguments Colion is making. Unfortunately unless there are some details not being mentioned in the video both Colion and the comedian are making some strawman arguments. Having said that I did learn something new about the 2nd Amendment from Colion in the first video of the series. Also Colion does make some very sound and logical points imo.
@@tumadre50 er.. Colion made strawman arguments?
He didn't exaggerate or distort Steve's arguments, he literally explained what the intent of Steve's subject is, his defense of Gun Control is not being "distorted" by Colion, Steve is distorting it himself, delusionally and naively stating in cherrypicked statistics that are not even shared face value, leaving a big chunk of the picture.
Colion didn't make a strawman argument, he removed the masks of naivety, and virtue signalling that is present in this dictatoring laws of guns that only affect THE LEGAL GUN OWNERS.
@@WhiteWolf0212 be a fanboy if you like. Yes they both made some strawman arguments. Generally I agree with Colion but if youre being objective his overall point was not a strawman but a few of his comments were. I am not saying Colion is wrong just not a fan of strawman arguments from anyone.
@@tumadre50 But you said “comment”…
And I’m curious, what did he say that was exagerrated and in that he distorts said sentences’ subject?
@@tumadre50 I think you miss the point of the comment really. It wasn't to claim that Colion's degree actually gives him more authority on the matter, just that if we're having a degree measuring contest, Colion's is longer.
Fun, but frustrating, to watch a coward undermine his own argument over and over.
Colion I admire your logic, eloquence and patience.
When pushing a narrative, damn the logic. They just want an unarmed populous.
"Then my sexy black ass..." 🤣 I had to pause the video at that one. Keep it up Colion. Not only are you smart as hell, but your entertaining as well!
I think he said "Texas"😆
That rhymed!
*you’re entertaining…
The Forefathers would be for those forearms because they're for arms, and because they're for arms for the people.
“…my sexy black ass…” That statement Is 💯% TRUE😘
Everything you said was, of course, absolute TRUTH!
I really respect the way you don't bomb us with ads and care more about your video. Props yo
Always a big thanks to you, Boss.
I just love when a comedian becomes a clown. Let's go Brandon
That's assclown to my friends and Mr. Assclown to you!
...You do know where that phrase comes from, right?
@@spongeintheshoe from a race where the crowd shouted FUCK BIDEN
The news reporter who was interviewing a driver said "they are cheering you on saying Lets Go Brandon
I do like how a someone with a history degree doesn’t see a relation between unarmed people and government Tierney
Cause they are brainwashed from the media and school system. They don’t have common sense and are capable of thinking themselves.
Its spelled "tyranny" man. I got your back!
I got three and and your right an unarmed population always leads to tyranny
@@apeshitcrazyman Thought they erase comments containing that word, maybe it's a combination of words. Good thing the algorithm is so obscure, arbitrary and ever changing.
@@HorkSupreme yeah, you're probably right!
You need to finish this series!
Awesome work, keep it up.
When buying a gun in Indiana and you’re an illinois resident they ask to see your FOID card. If you don’t have a foid card you can’t buy a gun. The guns used for violence in Chicago are not bought from stores.
I used to watch hofstetter. Then on one of his Q&As after his routine somebody made a factual statements about Jews and he got enraged. That was when I said to myself "well, if the truth makes this guy mad. I no longer wish to support him in any way, shape, or form."
I used to watch Hostetter, too. Mostly his heckler take downs. Then I saw him bring up something incredibly ignorant about guns, gun control, et. al. in one of his shows and I was like - I'm out. He shoulda stuck to comedy.
Have a link? I'd like to see this
He’s a beta
Were these "factual statements about Jews" actually anti-Semitic? Because it does actually matter. lol
@@SeraphsWitness No. Hofstetter asked a question about what jews do better than other groups and a guy in the audience said "make movies" and He got all mad and started saying that was anti-semetic. Facts are not anti- or pro- anything, they just exist. If i say 2+2 equal 4, thats not anti- or pro anything , it just is.
What you said makes me think that you are one of those people who don't care about truth, please tell me my hunch is wrong.
You do great work !! Thank you !
I loved it!! Makes sense to me.. I should have commented on the first video and thumbs up. Keep delivering the message.Great Job!
I'm Canadian, I am sickened beyond what I can express with how we treat not only firearm laws, but self defense in general. It's a nightmare.
It's funny though. He has a degree in history but fails to point out, or just purposely omits, what happens to citizens historically and presently in countries that have banned guns.
Hope we can see the other parts to this
Keep educating brotha
When you think about it this Steve guy is a great comedian, because everything he says, in favor of more gun control, is hilarious
I almost wonder if he actually believes that crap or if he's just trying to pander to the demographic he perceives to be his fans.
Either way, his comedy quality's kinda gone down a bit over the years. I think he's lost his edge because spent too much time going after soft targets and low-hanging fruit.
You’re right!!! I laugh every time he talks😂
Most of this guys arguments are false equivalencies and strawmen. Being a Columbia grad just means he makes his bad takes sound smarter.
@@susanwojcickisnicetwin Anyone with enough funding and time can get a degree.
For most subjects, unless you go masters or doctorate, you've only barely dug into the subject.
Those 2 combined make the average person trying to leverage their degree to show how superior they are just come off like that guy who gets torn a new one during that bar scene in Good Will Hunting.
@@InfernosReaper I had the funding and time. If someone asks me if I'm smart I tell them it's relative.
The death penalty was never considered "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" by the founders. Perhaps the way the death penalty is carried out.
Electric chair with a sponge, lethal injection, and hanging are all relatively fast executions and would be far from cruel and unusual. Burning to death, stabbing, shooting, beating, stoning, etc would be more cruel and unusual
@@TheJackmilla Even with a sponge, electrocution is still a nasty way to go. A firing squad is definitely more humane… But then I’m all for bringing back firing squads.
@@TheJackmilla i hope i get blown up thats actually my favorite.
@@seannemo8076 I'm not really concerned about finding a "humane" way to execute someone who got themselves convicted and sentenced to death.
I'm currently dealing with this matter as it pertains to elephants (long story).
"Cruel and unusual punishment" was prohibited by a crowd that exercised the death penalty.
"A life for a life" Is a morally founded legal practice that has been around for thousands of years. Losing your life is the natural result of taking a life, nothing "unusual" about it.
thank you for all your hard work.
Not only is Mr. Noir better educated, informed, and logical than his opponent, he is also a better comedian! I laughed until I cried at the absolute smackdown from 8:00 to 8:11!
"Then my sexy black ass"😂
I'm glad this series is back
I haven't shut down everything I was doing faster than I did for this video .
I was afraid he had forgotten
Me as well
First off wtf is Steven doing he’s defended by a doorman with a gun at every public event he goes to
He's being a hypocrite, which is what every anti-gunner is.
That's the irony of individuals like that.
Yeah for sure. It sounds to me like he wants his bodyguards to violate our due process rights. 🤔
@@proud_emmerian6510 All Anti Gunners are hypocrites.
Jail Baldwin!
These videos give me hope
Looking forward to if you revisit and continue this series, listening to you debunk this sleaze is an absolute delight 👍👍👍👍
Finally!! Honestly I kind of want more of these videos. I'm sure there are enough of gun control videos to do a series.
1) Anyone attacking a person has forfeited their “due process” rights and for that matter their right to live. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
2) How can a history major ignore the fact that disarmed populations (Germany, Russia, China and yes even America) have routinely been persecuted if not outright subjected to genocide? If you want more recent examples look at Venezuela and Afghanistan.
Due process comes after a self defense shooting. The cops still have to investigate even if it's an open and shut case of self defense. Even then, the state might still try to prosecute.
@@zenenglund8325 Just like Kyle Rittenhouse is being railroaded in Wisconsin
This guy is SO soft, and SO blinded by emotion and ideology, that he can't fathom the concept of defending one's self from an imminent threat. I don't know much about the background of this "comedian", but I'd venture to guess that he comes from money and has never known any sort of ACTUAL hardship or struggle and has never had to do without. He's what happens when you have more money than problems.
@@dougsmith6262 Absolutely!
@@96stealth Looked him up and yeah, he's had a nice life lol. Went to the most prestigious public high school in NYC, which I'll credit him for having the grades to get into, went to Columbia School of Fine Arts, was president of his fraternity, and is a millionaire. Now I respect the hustle since you don't just walk into a million dollars, but I can't respect an old money elitist who thinks he knows anything beyond his sheltered little bubble.
Where is part 4 and 5 I was loving the series
Great video, Colion!
The 2nd amendment has granted everyone all the rights they have today and their freedoms . There needs nothing more to say or argue . Let’s go Brandon ! 🇺🇸
The constitution grants zero rights. It restricts the government from taking GOD GIVEN rights from you.
Yea I say let go joe butthead, or better yet fack oof biden
Gun control worked here in Australia; not in the way it was meant too, but in the way it was always going too: It ensured that ordinary firearm owning citizens are legally prohibited from using their firearms as a means of defense; this includes using them against armed intruders. All firearms are registered so the government knows who owns what and how many firearms; which is the exact issue: The government, if it went rogue knows exactly who owns guns and who exactly to strip firearms from, which it did in 1997 with the Buy Back. The government paraded the Buy Back as a matter of "national security" but my nation saw it as theft and the removal of our means of self defense, which is exactly what it is.
Un-fun fact: It is a federal crime to use a firearm as a means of protection, even against armed intruders, which means if someone with a gun breaks in and shoots your children and your wife and you return fire, you're going to prison for unlawful discharging of a fire arm, and murder if the intruder dies of a bullet wound.
Here in Australia, you CANNOT LEGALLY use a gun to protect yourself, which means gun control controls the guns of legal ownership and does not a motherf*cking thing to curb, prevent or stop gun crime.
Criminal gun owners FLOURISH where there is gun control. Steve Hoffstetter is a fycking idiot.
This is f*cking insane.. I knew overall crime, violence, murder, home invasions & rape all went up after the confiscation.. But I had no idea it's illegal to defend your life. But honestly, thanks to Biden & the Democrats in the US, its starting to be the same way (especially in Dem towns/cities). Over & over again, good, law-abiding (white) Americans are being prosecuted very harshly for clear self defense.. And the attackers dont get charged (if they survive, and if they're black) and then the attackers can sue you for millions (even if they broke into your home & tried to kill you). Theyre letting these repeat-violent-offenders walk free with no-cash-bail, because holding someone on bail is "racist".. (as long as theyre african american)🤦♂️ They want chaos & violence to justify more gun control. And they create racist laws, install radical, racist DA's & prosecutors to make racial tension worse than it really is.. Cuz if we're all distracted, we wont notice them destroying our country, taking our rights, creating communism, or notice their corruption & treason
Awesome videos extremely educational Keep it up Colion.
I love your pod casts.
I learn more about rights every
time I listen to you
Love how he uses the most inarticulate, word-vomiting examples… Point 13 for example…. Ummm, what?
I would love to have you and him do a face to face debate over this.
Steve the 🤡 wouldn't even dare. Plus, his university prestige or whatever will be an excuse idk
@@mengx94 I still have never heard of this guy… and I’m positive he could have his “points” demolished by a 5th grader, let alone a Lawyer….
Hell, I’m a graduate of ITT Technical Institute… back in 2000 but we see how that “school” ended up…
I am extremely happy I found Colion. I saw Steve’s video, and even as a bleeding heart liberal I recognized his fallacies. Went looking for a rebuttal, and I don’t think I could have found a better one. And with no political leaning. Just facts. Love it.
As a independent political person. I respect that you came over. The one thing that has always made me angry is that we can’t just sit in talk it always turns into people screaming. But thank you for coming over and not yelling. I hope you have a wonderful day
Exactly same here
I’m a republican constitutionalist and I appreciate your willingness to search for opposing views to find healthy discourse that could have potentially been polar opposite of your political stance. That’s not easy nowadays. You are the type of liberal the world needs more of. You and I may be polar political opposites but I appreciate you and welcome you openly. We gain nothing by shunning each other but gain so much by putting our beliefs and ideologies aside to find common ground.
It’s said that respect is earned, not given, and Ray you have earned my respect. Here’s to shattering echo chambers, finding common ground, pushing away reactionary responses in return for honest discourse, openness, and dismantling the toxicity and hatred that comes from both sides of the field.
Look how nice most of us on the moderate or conservative side of an argument. Showing someone respect for their beliefs and someone that actually does real research, like colion presents. Without getting into a screaming match. I left you a like because you reached across the isle and actually tried to find common ground.
Ditto!
Great job, breath of fresh air, thank you🇺🇸
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
"Then my sexy black ass!". 🤣. As a straight white dude I gotta say, he calls it as it is! Keep up the good fight bro 😎
Seriously, his best line in the series! Hysterical!
Random person: "Hey Steve did you know that in America more people are saved from personal firearms than killed by them?"
Steve Hofstetter: "Get out. Seriously get tf out of here you're no longer welcome here.
Also Steve Hofstetter: "Wow I just OWNED that heckler!"
More people die from car accidents then all gun deaths and have for decades.
The number one killer of children is traffic accidents.
Think of the children by implementing common sense driving laws. If it saves one life. /s
@@latetotheparty7551 Tesla FSD no need for the law.
@@latetotheparty7551 and you know, its funny how people point to the whole driver's license and say thats what we need with guns. When exactly what you said happens. Despite government approval, some dickheads don't pay attention or are completely negligent and cause harm to others. But the ones where they have it more ingrained in their culture have more of a respect for it. I've seen so many people who it isn't part of their culture be so disrespectful of firearms but those that grew up with them treat them with the responsibility it deserves. And that's what we need. Not a permission slip, but for them to be understood. Also to actually tackle the issues in the poor areas that the actual crime is happening. I understand poverty can create crime, but people also forget crime definitely creates poverty.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 I actually think even driver's licenses are stupid. Why force someone to get a license, rather than just punishing them for bad driving? It's the same exact argument against prohibition, gun control laws...
Anything that proactively controls a law-abiding citizen, I'm generally against. Punish people when they break the law, don't make them jump through hoops just to participate in society.
@@SeraphsWitness Totally agree, we are supposed to be FREE people in America. I argue driving is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT just like riding a horse. This "privilege, not a right" BS is eroding the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us to have when they broke away from a monarchial government.
Love the vids but where is parts 4 and 5?
Colion, you are a blessing to the United States of America! God Bless you!!
Listening to that "comedian's" talking points was itself the joke. He was wrong about literally every point he made. It was pathetic...almost like listening to a 12 year old try to convince me he knows better than me.
Riiiiiiiiiight kiddo. 👌
You arguments FOR protecting gun rights is the best I've ever heard from someone with the platform to reach large audiences. Outstanding how you go point by point proving how ignorant the anti-gun nuts are. Keep it up!
Those stats are rated per 100,000 capita....3 handgun murders in a small city on 3000 stats go through the roof. 700 murders in a city of 8,000,000....numbers are lowered. Needs to be at an geographical area
@@_notbrandon "Personally"... 1 out of thousands. big deal. He spits nothing but facts.
Collin should have ended each of these videos with
"Now I know this doesn't end the gun debate but you'll never get mine anyway"