Weekend trip on Lake Michigan uncovers century-old shipwreck
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2020
- A team of shipwreck hunters that includes members from Milwaukee uncovered what appears to be one of the most intact wooden schooners ever discovered at the bottom of the Great Lakes. The amazing find was made almost on accident, and the discovery sparked a months-long mission to identify the vessel and solve the mystery of what happened to her crew. via.fox6now.com/LT5Ia
This is a wonderful piece of history, imagine actually being able to walk around this and look at her in some museum!
Almost unbelievable that her masts and parts of the rigging have survived..
Very Ture!
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The lifeboat beside the ship tells you how quick it went down.
Or how long it sat on the ice maybe?
It may have been in tow and the rope rotted away.
Can you explain a bit more for people like me who don't understand?
@@hellosweetheart3350 I think he's referring to the close proximity between the schooner and the lifeboat. General assumption being that if the schooner was in trouble they'd get into the lifeboat and be further away if the schooner had taken longer to sink. I don't really agree in this case since they're theorizing that it sank slowly and ice coverage was the problem as evidenced by the almost pristine intact hull. A smashed or major perforation in the hull would have made it go down quicker. A few things possible with the ice issue. Because it was going down so slowly, they remained on-board hoping for rescue and maybe went for the lifeboat as last resort, or the ice had the boat surrounded and there was nowhere to go anyway, or the ice took the smaller lifeboat down almost immediately as it touched the water, experiencing the same ice coverage as the schooner and not sea worthy by then
57 likes on a comment that contradicts what was actually said in the video by an expert, it amazes me on how stupid people are.
I wish they would show inside the ship
Someday they will.
I mean, if you find the ship and you're an experienced diver, I say its yours to check
@@TheOrangeRoad Depending on bottom time and your gas mix...
You don't dive inside of mechanical objects or structures in underwater that's a diving rule
@@quorthonsinferno5119 yup, one of the easiest ways to die
I think its really (kind of annoying) the way the reporter (keeps interceding) in the middle of (sentences).
Yeah, fox news is garbage.
Thank you! Who does that, it's so bad!
@@kaylawuvscookies so are you....
Its not even bad i didn’t even notice it until you guys pointed it out. Just because you’re liberal doesn’t make the entire fox news staff the worst people on the planet
@@martyzielinski2469 That's the joke bro
Sad the loss of the crew, but it is an underwater work of art. Thank you
I'm from Manistee and I have a lot of old photographs of the Manistee river in town I have a photo of this ship
Can u upload it somewhere and share the link with us? I can guide you through if you dont know how to do it
Yes please
Considering how old this ship is, it’s actually in amazing condition
Looks intact enough to refloat.......patch the few holes refloat get it into a dry dock clean it real good. And put it as a piece of museum atrifacts
i agree. they've raised way bigger wrecks from far deeper and would be a great museum piece, there's a big wooden ship on display in...I think Oslo, Norway. The big issue I'd see here is $$$$. Who's gonna foot the bill to raise it?
2 things
1. Is the money to raise her
2.There are likely human remains in there, and let's say there isn't. But it's where those men died. So it's like their grave.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, it belongs in the Smithsonian of transportation, but it's a grave. Just like the Titanic, Edmund Fitzgerald, USS Indianapolis, USS Arizona. The list goes on.
But man, it would be cool to see it preserved
@@Quint1836 100 year old wood strength probably waning
As long as it isnt a burial ground, I'd say they should recover the ship and preserve her.
I doubt it could make it 300 feet up
Wow! This is such a cool story! It needs to be a movie. The news channel also did a great job covering it. I am glad that gave us detail instead of the typical 90 second fly by.
Incredible! Thank you for sharing this story of our Great Lakes!
This was an intriguing find! I never considered that ice build-up could cause a ship to sink - but it makes sense! If a power line can accumulate ice, bend, and then break in an ice storm, I can imagine the impact of such a storm on sails, rigging, deck, and cargo. Thank you for sharing your discovery.
It was carrying salt though..... I am sure they would have been smart enough to use it.
@@Thenotfunnyperson use it how?throw the salt up in the air hoping it latches onto the ice on the sails?
Just watch Deadliest Catch, and you can see that they worry a lot about ice buildup because it can, and will, sink their ships.
@@thesussexbunionI noticed that.. and honestly, it's a few been lost like this.. the ice gets built up on one side, because of the wind, it builds up, and starts causing the ship to list a little bit, but not much, so sometimes they continue, thinking it's not that big of a deal, until the ship starts listing really heavy to one side, to far.. then the ship can not right itself back to normal, even after dropping balase... I seen what you are talking about.. and I have been on several boats and understand lots of it.. I still didn't really pay attention to how heavy that ice can be if it's on 1 side of a boat or large ship.. that would be a damn horrible way to sink a big boat.. and it cold as shit.. 😮😮..
@@JoeLattimore-ss2pm it must be so frightening. I can't imagine.
Just gonna throw this out there, I don’t like this editing at all. It’s so choppy with the narration.
the fact that it was perfectly preserved is amazing
this actually makes me want to work on ships/boats
There are over 6,000 ships that cover the bottom of five Great Lakes with over 300 deaths, the latest being the Edmund Fitzgerald and her 29 man crew on November 10, 1975.
Kinda creepy how on one of the dives down to it, one of the divers found the corpse of one of the crew, almost perfectly intact.
The Fitz has always been an interest of mine. A huge oar freighter that, even now, nobody is completely sure of why it went down.
@@larrywhinnery1808 what I believe(as well as many others), is that the Edmund went over a massive wave and when she came back down, her load shifted in her holds and pushed her bow underwater, and with that happening water rushed in and pulled it down and down until her bow smacked the bottom. With that happening and her stern still above, the waves pushed her stern forward and snapped it at the midsection, twisting it as it went under.
@@HMSHOOD1920 It's entirely possible. They say the captain went from "we're holding our own" on the radio to complete silence. That was the last that was heard.
Makes a great song too
This needs to be brought up .... breathe life into it again!
It wouldn’t survive.
@@HMSHOOD1920 they managed it with the Vasa in Stockholm, Sweden in the 60s, I would think with the equipment we now have they should be able to do it, it would make a wonderful thing to see up close, also they would be able to preserver her...I would think the only thing which is stopping this is money!
Why bring it up anyways
@@HMSHOOD1920 i think this one would. Despite it's age, it is intact.
its probably important fish structure during the salmon run
Imagine the family's surprise when researching the WC Kimball, after reading the family history, this report told the story of what may have happened to my husband's great, great uncle, Charles Cyrus Kehl and his schooner. In the Kehl history, written in 1966, it was speculated that the WC Kimball was run down by a passing steamer. The pictures of the schooner tell a different story. "Stove-in" bunches of shingles came ashore after the disappearance. The only other things fully identified as coming from the schooner were a cap belonging to Charles Kehl and the trunk of a young Norwegian immigrant on his way to Northport to join family, identified by letters found inside, written by his uncle.
I Love these stories about any Great Lake Ship
This is just truly amazing. It’s like the intact ship was frozen in time, waiting to be discovered.
ha. FROZEN
ok ill leave now
@@beanman6684 moron
@@trolltrama9780 🐖
@@cavemanlovesmoke4394 you know your head from your ass?
And maybe even literally frozen
Absolutely beautiful! Please preserve!
The salt it was carrying probably helped preserve it as well
The lakes are also very cold which helps the wood not rot away in the water
@@foxxgirl6356 I learn something new everyday
Or Thompson's water seal for decks.
I love our beautiful Lake Michigan
Somebody ought to raise that ship & restore it to full function. That would be incredible to see.
I was thinking something along those lines, float it up, dry it out, clean the hull, epoxy the whole thing she could sail again. Only thing, it kind of seems like grave robbing.
@@Noone-rt6pw I don’t think that there are any bodies in there. I imagine that everyone jumped off rather than be sucked under. Of course for them it meant out of the frying pan & into the pot. You’re damned if you do & damned if you don’t. But, I’m with you. Someone should raise this ship. It would hardly take any effort. Get a big assed barge with a crane on it capable of going down the 300 feet. Attach lifting straps under her keel in multiple spots. Then lift away. Make a documentary about it. People would pay big bucks to see this ship come back from the dead. Then sail it again.
@@Noone-rt6pw One last comment. I think she went down to the bottom very slowly. It was the ice & salt that pulled her under. I think that once underwater, the ice either melted away or gave the ship some extra buoyancy, then as it went down further the salt started to dissolve away & it settled very gently. If ever there was a ship that could be raised, it’s this one.
@@SJKile I'm with ya!
@@hellosweetheart3350 Yeeeaaahh, now we’re getting some steam up. 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
This would’ve been a lot better if Ray Romano didn’t butt in every two seconds
Very cool!! RIP to those lost!!🙏
Oh great. Here’s an historical wonder. Let’s drop an anchor on it.WTF.
Diver boey marker maybe bruh?
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS the dive markers have a big weight on them not an anchor.
That’s a dive marker; you go try and refind a ship wreck at 300 feet deep
It’s a dive marker, chances are it’s not that heavy. As long as it’s not hooked to anything for too long it should be fine
Great story. Thank you.
This makes me feel breathless
More than a few in michigan that can dive that, and there's is lots of preserved wrecks in the great lakes I have dove on several as preserved as that or more so
Out of your average 100k people how many of those do you think can drop that far it seems really hard but I’m no expert
I don't think anybody could get me to dive that. The only consolation is that there are no sharks.
@@jeffreyhodge3303 prolly not many true but I've known atleast a dozen from michigan that could make that dive
@@matthewbarker4109 yea probably a few dozen in the state that are pretty busy I’d say that’s why he had to get someone so far away i don’t know though still interesting
That would be such a scary experience. They did such an awesome job. Hope the families now have some answers too.
It's been over 100 years so the families probably don't even know about it
@@a11osaurus Maybe, maybe not. Many times big family stories do get passed down. I have a photo & some writings that were off my great-grandfather in the Civil War. Some of his artifacts have also been donated for display at the local museum.
Wow... that was a pretty well put together and presented report. It was short and pretty much to the point without a lot of fluff and wasted gab time. And it came as no surprise that they were hauling cedar shakes and salt from Manistee which produced vast quantities of both way back then.
Agreed. They didn’t try and oversell it by making claims about “sunken treasure” and shit like that. I wonder if they’ll ever be able to find an old newspaper piece about lost sailors. This ship isn’t very old and there soooo many newspapers back then.
Awesome video guys and I only have 1 bitch I noticed an anchor at 3:31 stuck into the side of the ship and that is a very big No No because if everyone else did that there wouldn't be much of a ship left. I thought all divers knew this. Otherwise what a freakin great find. Congratulations guys
They couldn't see the ship where they where 300 feet above, and the sonar? Seriously through something in the water , give it 300 feet and you have no clue as to where the currents are going to land it.
@@cowboy6591
I realize that and I also realize that it takes a very special talent to dive that depth and I didn't want my comment to be negative about the video because when I made the comment it was meant as pointing something out and as an inquiry to. Could they not have moved it once they were down there??? Or because of limited bottom time it would have prevented moving it? I am not trying to be OCD/anal about the anchor lol it's just that I had watched to diving videos earlier and they were going on and on about the anchor being stuck in the side of a ship and how much damage it could do. Stay Safe n' Cheers
Hanging the anchor off the side of the ship was common practice with these schooners.
@@tom-vs3lf
I meant the anchor from the dive boat because it's stuck into the side of the sunken ship and if every dive boat did that there would be nothing left of the sunken boat. I'm not sure if it's a regulation but it sure is frowned upon
Pretty sure it's just a booey marker with a dive line bruh
What an awesome story. Thank you.
But if ice is less dense than water, how did it sink?
Weight. Ice forms on every surface: masts, decks, hulls. Even sails would freeze. Engines falter and fail. Lifeboats and any other containers fill and become solid blocks of ice.
Ice would continue to build, layer upon layer, as long as storm lasted.
Awesome 👍
How cool is this !
Way cool. Good job guys.
That's amazing!
Very interesting story and quite spooky. The lifeboat next to the ship tells me they weren’t able to use it.
Being born, and spending all of my 52 years in Toronto, I have grown up on the Great Lakes my entire life, I’ve discovered some amazing finds, but this one beats them all, absolutely spectacular! I’ve never seen a wreck so perfectly intact, it’s almost unbelievable, congratulations gentlemen, absolutely amazing find!
It's so perfectly preserved, makes me wonder if it can be raised and saved in a museum.
If you don't understand how ice can build up and possibly sink a ship, watch Deadliest Catch. The crews often have to break up the ice on their ships so they don't capsize and sink under the weight.
Thing is though if people died on that ship when it went down they would be disturbing an underwater grave
The ship is preserved because of the environmental conditions its in. The cold fresh water of the great lakes has prevented organisms like shipworm from thriving there. The main issue is taking the ship out of a stable environment into one where you have to monitor oxidation levels, chemical degradation, humidity and water content of the wood and other conditions. Most marine archeologists use the great lakes as an underwater museum for trained divers and a place to train future marine archeologists. You can learn a lot from a wreck site alone.
Another issue I have is the treatment/conservation of a wreck . It can take decades to stabilize a wreck for use as a museum piece on the surface. as an example , the conservation of the wreck of the Mary rose (built in 1545) has taken 30 years of conservation to stabilize the wreck. In that time it took millions of dollars to stabilize it.
The ship has so little historicity or really anything unique. So there would be absolutely no justification for the costs and challenges involved.
This interesting story was ruined by the constant interruptions with the half assed narration
Life is probably ruined for you by the vast number of things you just cannot stand. Cheer up! It'll be over soon enough.
@@nodnostrebor4300
That might be true, but the point about the half-assed narration remains pertinent!
Bitch and moan.
You should also check out the LR doty one of the most preserved wrecks in the great lakes I was even lucky enough to meet the people who discovered it
Wow she is in a near perfect condition. It wouldn’t surprise me that if they were to raise her and gently patch her that she’d be sea-worthy once more.
wood is probably rotted after 150 years under water
Ah ha!! That's where I left my anchor. 😂
great story, thanx for sharing.
Good story great discovery!👍
Good story great find!
What a beautiful ship it was
WOW that amazing that that boat stayed in almost perfect condition for that long
👍🏼 very cool video
That is fascinating
No where else on earth can you see man mad objects made hundreds of years ago untouched and unchanged that's what draws me to shipwrecks. I've researched shipwrecks in the great lakes for over 30 years but I've never been to the great lakes.
Fascinating
Love the music!!!
Truly amazing to see it sitting perfectly upright masts and all
Outstanding 👻🎩
How beautiful
Can I go to.... What an adventure !
I have a picture that has been passed down for a few generations of my great great great grandfather coming home alive on a ship covered in ice in Milwaukee Wisconsin
That must be an extraordinary image... is it posted online where others can see it?
Wow. She's a beautiful ship even at the bottom of the lake.
What a wonderful find.
*What a sad story, but it is good that they found it.*
That's wicked awsome
I worked at Burger Boat in Manitowoc, and they were around since the 1860's. Wonder if they made that boat? We lived in the Point Beach area at the time, and used to pick up coal and other items from the ships that sunk there when walking the beach. Lots of ships went down in that area.
lol for some reason I thought you were talking about a boat that served burgers during the summer season or something. I thought that sounded fun. Google brought me to a historic shipbuilding company. Built to Last!
@@The_ZeroLine You're not alone! When I first heard the name I had visions of a boat with golden arches or something 😉
@@PlanetMojo After thinking so, I was like that sounds like a fun business and I actually found a cool boat in New Zealand that does serve burgers on a beautiful lake in NZ.
Who's anchor is that near the mast. Their vessels anchor or one that got stuck from someone else
Ted Perry is my favorite night person on fox 6
Would it be worth raising?
Nice.
Wow the reporter crudely cut in audio really ruins the vibe of this story.
If she's complete with its masts upright, it is because it sank vertically and touched the bottom by the keel, so I guess it was overloaded in Gambler mode, with a very low waterline , then all you need is a rogue wave and your boat goes completely through the bottom in an instant, keeping it intact because it arrives on the bottom in roughly gliding flight.
Because in this lake, indeed there is an astronomical number of wrecks from all eras and in all states, but the Schooner in particular are wooden ships, they are "fragile" the majority of the wrecks are broken up in a thousand pieces, the masts lying on the side, gutted hull, some have had their deck torn off or broken into several separate pieces.
Many of these ships and their crews do not even have time to throw the dinghy into the sea, because next to the majority of them lies the only one rescue boat on bord .
Which means that the majority of these crews perished in these shipwrecks and the worst is that the majority of them were immigrants, the area was known to employ this type of personnel because they were not very qualified and therefore payable at a minimum, their identities, their lives and who they were or where they came from have all been lost swallowed up by the lake, which does not return its dead; as everyone knows and worse, keep them almost intact even after several centuries under water mummified by the conditions particularly poor in living organism necrophrages in the depths of the latter, keeping everything intact like in a big freezer.
Ok so there was four crew members aboard, who were these men? And who is the source of the historical information? There must be more to this story.
Well, if you really want to know more about it, I'm sure a quick Google search may be worth a shot
Did they find any bodies or proof that the bodies are partially intact inside the lake
What time period is it from
Did they find any cool skeletons?
most of the bodies at the bottom of superior aren’t skeletons, but rather much creepier full bodies encased in fat
Lake magician
For the crew, what a sad way to go.
Epic
Can you restore that
Can it be raised? That would be really cool, and a nice museum piece!
Is there footage of them going inside it? I want to see!
one of the golden diving rules is not to go into any man made structures underwater; u never know what beam is waiting for the slightest disturbance to break and trap u (also there’s the possibility there could be bodies)
He could have at least recorded through those windows without going in.
Bring it up!
its wood is less rotted than the titanic's decks, and its older than the titanic
Salt water and fresh water and the bacteria in the waters has a lot of effect on the deterioration of a ship for sure.
@@hieroglifchik ok
grew up in Omena. funny to hear "Northport"
I wonder if the barrels of salt might have fogured into its slow sinking to the bottom
Wonder if it had any cargo.
Yeah it said in the video
It's a schooner!
@ 1:28, "the radar images".
Ice floats!
Is it possible or worth trying to surface 👻
I’m struggling to understand how wooden craft can sink - especially the lifeboat, although it was probably fastened to the ship...
So Ice Sink it so that means there’s is No Holes so all you need to do is Pull it Up take the Water out of it and then you may have a Floating Shipwreck
It’s only 100 years old?
Nice video.but it's sad that the lifeboat was resting on the see floor.i knew when I first saw it that everyone parished..
Okay. Great theory. But where is the ice now? I don't see any on the vessel.
I hope you are being sarcastic.😐
@John Doe you’re probably right.
How could it sink if wood floats? Yup, this is how stupid you sound. Hope it was just a joke....
@@Dan_C604 It was a joke, obviously. But anyway, wooden ships can sink for many reasons.
@@Del-Canada it is hard to tell nowadays with so many idiots making comments on social media......
Raise it.
oh if we could just drain the lakes and especially the seas, what a sight that would be, a liquid junkyard of history!!
steel is capacitors Sir
this news piece was narrated by Ray Romano
Raise it!
There's a wrecked yacht lost from the 20's in Lake Michigan and the hull alone is worth over $1,000,000!
Sadly the bannockburn is still unfound