i got rammed away on dads TDM 850 from a car. So i bought him the TDM 900. Best decision i´ve ever done. love the TDM. The engine feels much stronger than 86hp
Hé Rick, I'm recently the same situation. I've owned a 1998 TDM 850 for the last five years ,with the same oil consumption. And now I'm ready for something new. I drove some new bikes like the triumph scrambler and the BMW F800 but these bikes have barely any soul with al the computers holding your hand. Thats why I'm looking at buying a BMW airhead from the late 70's. It's not for everybody but these bikes have character in abundance. And with a few upgrades you get enough hp and torque for the modern roads. Anyway, I loved the video. it's a great format. Greetings from Limburg
@@camty24 hey, thanks for your comment! I agree that modern bikes have lost quite a bit of character sadly. Those old airhead beamers are awesome! Have you tried something like an RnineT? Those are quite modern but still have old oilcooled engines 👍
@@RickChardet The RnineT models are quite new and I can't get one below 10K. My budget is around 5-6K and this is enough for a nice R100S. But if it was in budget, the RnineT scrambler would certainly be a contender.
Nice Video! About the oil consumption: You really need to follow the instructions for checking the oil level, as otherwise it might deceive you to believe it is too low. If you peep at the level before you cold start it, the level will certainly seem to be too low. If you look strait after a couple of minutes ride, it will be too high. So make sure to follow the instructions, otherwise you might overfill it. My TDM doesn't really consume oil (Maybe 200ml after 5000 Km). As for the Battery location: I put a new gel-battery some five years and 9000 Km ago and never needed to look at it again. How often do you guys change your batteries, that you make such an issue out of it? Another thing to consider: The variety of tires available for these dimensions, especially the rather exotic 18" front tire, is becomming a little narrow nowadays. But you can still find very good combinations. Like I newly got Pirelli Angel GT II for the rear, combined with Angel GT for the front. It may be not the state of the art tires (Pirelli has Angel 4 or even 5 now), but it is still much better than what was available in 1999, when the bike was built. The Bike feels very stable and gives you great confidence on the twisty roads, when the tires are good (well, what a surprise 😀). All in all it is a very simple motorcycle. The only thing electronic about it is the Ignition. Like you, i don't even have a clock, not to mension a digital odometer (which came with the 1999 model update). All that makes it quite easy to maintain youself. At the sum of its characteristics, it is an excellent, very comfortable, very confidence inspirint and very potent bike for real world traffic in every day life. My TDM has 79000 Km on the clock now, and I have no intentions to replace it.
You say the oil reading might be too high after riding it for a bit? Bc there are mixed opinions on how to check the oil, and I still haven't found the right way myself after owning it for a month
I have my TDM 850 for about 12 years now, and will never part with it. It has a superbike steering handle, new rear shock with raised rear suspension, extended (welded) side stand, a full stainless 2 in 1 exhaust system, new front fork legs, upgraded "flame" brake rotors, R1 brake calipers and pump, CNC mirrors, heated grips, Upgraded front suspension, gold coated rims, heightened screen, LED indicators with running lights, LED headlights and rear lights, quickshifter, LED spotlights, new upgraded seat, upgraded CNC footrests, 7" Android Carplay navigation, etc. The engine has been completely restored, and all rubber O-rings, gaskets, choke and needles/tubes in the carbs have been replaced. All this was DIY. This bike does it all. It's totally neutral in corners, even under heavy braking. It pulls like a John Deere. It sounds amazing. It has a very high MPG, I can drive 500km / 300 miles on one single tank of 98 fuel. The suspension is top class, the steering is phenomenal. And the power, ohhh the power. And the brakes can pop your eyeballs out.
Well done Rick, as a long time owner I thought that was an excellent overview! The 900 is better in many ways but it doesn't scratch as well as the 850. I live in NZ where we have the death penalty for speeding but all the roads where I live are twisty or twisty gravel, it's the perfect bike. 3rd gear from 20kmh - 100kmh. Twist and go. Oh, the 850 is bizarrely good on gravel.
@@andrewpearce2562 Lol, you're right it's not literal but we have speed cameras, static and mobile, popping up everywhere and many perfectly good roads with speed limits reduced to 80kmh or less, all in the name of safety. It's getting a bit draconian.
I had the 98 for a long time, put 175k on it without any real problems apart from obvious wear. Best bike I ever had. Reliable and ready for anything, more than enough power on the street and a perfect bike for twisty roads, amazing handling. Push it to the limit, it won't disappoint.
@@RickChardet it certainly is, do yourself a favour and don't sell it. I sold mine because of the mileage, after 175.000km's I started to wear out the engine, but I didn't drive it gently, and never got another one because of knee problems, it is top heavy. But it's still my favourite. But once over 100.000km's start checking your axls and rear shock. Those were the only problems I ever had with that bike and that was just normal wear and tear.
I have a 2001 TDM 850, awesome bike with plenty of torque and power and good sound (aftermarket exhaust). Only downside for me is the low rpm roughness.
I have the 850 3VD 1991 (the first one) and I have just bought the 900 5ps 2008. Sound and power sensation is for 850. The 900 is the best for long trips and every day
Two years ago I bought an abandoned TDM 900 2003 with 75k on it. It was the most stupid buy I could ever make. I didn't know the bike and that's why I was naive. The plan was to refresh the bike and flip it to make some money. But after some trips I fell in love with it. I took it completely apart, did all maintenance, replaced and restored almost anything, new tyres, brought it back to almost brand new. And now I'm making memories with it. The first bike where I took my 8 years old daughter for some trips. She loves it. Magical feelings. I drive it every day, summer and winter, and I drive a lot. The bike is light, easy, steady, powerful and reliable. Something tells me I will never sell this bike. So be careful for what you wish for 😮
Hé Rick, thanks for this video. It's great to see video's about bikes that aren't new. I'm looking for a first bike to buy, here in the Netherlands. Are you planning to sell the bike by yourself?
@@christiaang Hey Christiaan! Thanks for your support :) I'm planning on putting the bike on marktplaats soon, send me a DM on insta and I'll keep you updated!
J'ai une TDM 850 4tx de 1999 , 65000 kilomètres , elle consomme 4 litres au 100 à 110 kms/heure 3500 trs/mn , et très peu d'huile. Jamais eu un seul problême en 4 ans.
Bought mine as a first bike. Really love it. Mine also has a fuel gauge, fuel light and no reserve fuel switch. Yours cant be a 2001 model, mine is 1997 and has all those features
@@MrKenpetgam definitely, my mistake! Someone else also pointed this out, don't know how I got 2001 in my head... Thank you for watching and for your comment ✌️
Many thanks for your interesting video!! Your TDM has a flat cockpit widescreen. Its original or from which producer?? Or was it shortened?... Best regards from Germany
Worked on these and the 900s.Timing tensioner stucks sometimes,but the biggest fault is the cooling tube on top of the cylinder head.Other than that,really good bikes(seen with 170k miles on the 850,and 160k kms on the 900) For me,i like the 850 more,though changing the battery is a pita
That's not a 2001 model, it's a 1998. I have one in the same color. 1999 and up had fuel gauge. Good bike that does most things well but is a bit bland. Very sensible bike but doesn't awake any emotions.
The TDM engine is a proper beast and is made to last and with a very nice sound for a parallel twin. The bike in general is made to last, but putting the battery behind the swingarm is a big design flaw. you have to dismantle half a bike just to change the battery.
how tall are you? you make that bike look pretty small but i KNOW it's not. i'm 5'-10" with a 30" inseam (USA) and could not flatfoot my 1992 model even with boots with a 1" heel.
Had one for about two months before i had the oil run out without knowing it drinks the stuff. Totalled it so currently looking to get another one next season
@@RickChardet Welp, you live and you learn :p Luckily i didn't sell my old motorcycle yet so i can still do my summer trip down to Germany this august 🤙
@@wotererio At first not much. The previous owner probably didn't know to refill the oil often either, so never did and i didn't know it too. Am riding almost daily so did about 2-3k km on it in the first few months after winter. Drove to work without noticing any issues, but when i started it to head back immediately heard loud ticking with every cilinder stroke. Drove to the nearest garage that was open to check it out and they said there was close to no oil in it. Filled it up and said i might be able to make it home but they advised against it. Being stubborn (and slightly in denial) i did try and drive it home as the ticking was less severe after refilling the oil, but made it about 8-10km before the ticking became knocking and the rpm began to flutter severely. Then, when going on a roundabout an i pulled the clutch in, the engine just died. Was able to restart while rolling around the roundabout, but the knocking changed to a more grinding, metal-screws-in-shredder kind of way so decided to stop and call road services. They brought it to my motorcycle garage and they determined my crankshaft, cilinders, valves and anything in between was at the least damaged, at the most fully destroyed. Only fix would be an engine swap which would be almost as much in costs as buying another tdm so i deemed it financially total-loss.
They are great bikes,ive had the 850 and the 900 which even though i now ride the big tdm a super tenere 1200 i have kept my old 2002 tdm 900, still runs like a dream i will never sell it,ps their are many improvements in the 900 IE they dont use oil like the 850 they made improvements in the engine to stop that,but the biggest improvement is the all aluminium frame, much stiffer and stronger
Oehh die ziet er goed uit man, denk dat ik die ga halen als ik mn A heb en dan vervolgens perongeluk verliefd worden en hem nooit ga verkopen. Hoelang ben je trouwens? ik ben 176, is dat lang genoeg voor deze bike?
@@grssu haha nice, ik ben 1.85! Denk dat je met 1.76 best prima uit de voeten kan ;) maar zou er sws zelf even op gaan zitten en kijken of je comfortabel bent!
This is one of those bikes that just work very well and you somehow fall in love with. I never rode it, but I would love to. Nice and detailed video. Enjoyed. Drop by to check my content. You may like it. Take care. Cheers.
i got rammed away on dads TDM 850 from a car. So i bought him the TDM 900. Best decision i´ve ever done. love the TDM. The engine feels much stronger than 86hp
@@Kreisverkehrdrifter they're awesome bikes! My friend took his 900 with 100.000km on the odo on our Norway trip and it performed amazingly 👍
Hé Rick, I'm recently the same situation. I've owned a 1998 TDM 850 for the last five years ,with the same oil consumption. And now I'm ready for something new. I drove some new bikes like the triumph scrambler and the BMW F800 but these bikes have barely any soul with al the computers holding your hand. Thats why I'm looking at buying a BMW airhead from the late 70's. It's not for everybody but these bikes have character in abundance. And with a few upgrades you get enough hp and torque for the modern roads. Anyway, I loved the video. it's a great format. Greetings from Limburg
@@camty24 hey, thanks for your comment! I agree that modern bikes have lost quite a bit of character sadly. Those old airhead beamers are awesome! Have you tried something like an RnineT? Those are quite modern but still have old oilcooled engines 👍
@@RickChardet The RnineT models are quite new and I can't get one below 10K. My budget is around 5-6K and this is enough for a nice R100S. But if it was in budget, the RnineT scrambler would certainly be a contender.
@@camty24 I see, enjoy the airhead!
Nice Video!
About the oil consumption: You really need to follow the instructions for checking the oil level, as otherwise it might deceive you to believe it is too low. If you peep at the level before you cold start it, the level will certainly seem to be too low. If you look strait after a couple of minutes ride, it will be too high. So make sure to follow the instructions, otherwise you might overfill it. My TDM doesn't really consume oil (Maybe 200ml after 5000 Km).
As for the Battery location: I put a new gel-battery some five years and 9000 Km ago and never needed to look at it again. How often do you guys change your batteries, that you make such an issue out of it?
Another thing to consider: The variety of tires available for these dimensions, especially the rather exotic 18" front tire, is becomming a little narrow nowadays. But you can still find very good combinations. Like I newly got Pirelli Angel GT II for the rear, combined with Angel GT for the front. It may be not the state of the art tires (Pirelli has Angel 4 or even 5 now), but it is still much better than what was available in 1999, when the bike was built. The Bike feels very stable and gives you great confidence on the twisty roads, when the tires are good (well, what a surprise 😀).
All in all it is a very simple motorcycle. The only thing electronic about it is the Ignition. Like you, i don't even have a clock, not to mension a digital odometer (which came with the 1999 model update). All that makes it quite easy to maintain youself.
At the sum of its characteristics, it is an excellent, very comfortable, very confidence inspirint and very potent bike for real world traffic in every day life.
My TDM has 79000 Km on the clock now, and I have no intentions to replace it.
You say the oil reading might be too high after riding it for a bit? Bc there are mixed opinions on how to check the oil, and I still haven't found the right way myself after owning it for a month
Great video, informative and nice to see some love for the older bikes. Keep it up!
@@vengpkertje you know me
I remember going to watch the single series TRX racing. That engine without baffles is quite something 🎉
@@TringmotionCoUk my riding instructor religiously rode trx's, that sound is imprinted in my brain 👌
I have my TDM 850 for about 12 years now, and will never part with it. It has a superbike steering handle, new rear shock with raised rear suspension, extended (welded) side stand, a full stainless 2 in 1 exhaust system, new front fork legs, upgraded "flame" brake rotors, R1 brake calipers and pump, CNC mirrors, heated grips, Upgraded front suspension, gold coated rims, heightened screen, LED indicators with running lights, LED headlights and rear lights, quickshifter, LED spotlights, new upgraded seat, upgraded CNC footrests, 7" Android Carplay navigation, etc. The engine has been completely restored, and all rubber O-rings, gaskets, choke and needles/tubes in the carbs have been replaced. All this was DIY. This bike does it all. It's totally neutral in corners, even under heavy braking. It pulls like a John Deere. It sounds amazing. It has a very high MPG, I can drive 500km / 300 miles on one single tank of 98 fuel. The suspension is top class, the steering is phenomenal. And the power, ohhh the power. And the brakes can pop your eyeballs out.
Wow that's quite the list! Nice to hear you take such good care of it and enjoy it so much :)
Well done Rick, as a long time owner I thought that was an excellent overview! The 900 is better in many ways but it doesn't scratch as well as the 850.
I live in NZ where we have the death penalty for speeding but all the roads where I live are twisty or twisty gravel, it's the perfect bike. 3rd gear from 20kmh - 100kmh. Twist and go. Oh, the 850 is bizarrely good on gravel.
@@1998TDM thanks for the kind words!
death penalty for speeding... Surely not literally? Please elaborate!
@@andrewpearce2562 Lol, you're right it's not literal but we have speed cameras, static and mobile, popping up everywhere and many perfectly good roads with speed limits reduced to 80kmh or less, all in the name of safety. It's getting a bit draconian.
I had the 98 for a long time, put 175k on it without any real problems apart from obvious wear. Best bike I ever had. Reliable and ready for anything, more than enough power on the street and a perfect bike for twisty roads, amazing handling. Push it to the limit, it won't disappoint.
@@stefaanvandeloo1624 it's a great bike!
@@RickChardet it certainly is, do yourself a favour and don't sell it. I sold mine because of the mileage, after 175.000km's I started to wear out the engine, but I didn't drive it gently, and never got another one because of knee problems, it is top heavy. But it's still my favourite. But once over 100.000km's start checking your axls and rear shock. Those were the only problems I ever had with that bike and that was just normal wear and tear.
And put a Lazer exhaust on it. Makes a beautiful deep sound that you can feel resonating in your body.
I have a 2001 TDM 850, awesome bike with plenty of torque and power and good sound (aftermarket exhaust). Only downside for me is the low rpm roughness.
I have the 850 3VD 1991 (the first one) and I have just bought the 900 5ps 2008. Sound and power sensation is for 850. The 900 is the best for long trips and every day
Two years ago I bought an abandoned TDM 900 2003 with 75k on it. It was the most stupid buy I could ever make. I didn't know the bike and that's why I was naive.
The plan was to refresh the bike and flip it to make some money. But after some trips I fell in love with it. I took it completely apart, did all maintenance, replaced and restored almost anything, new tyres, brought it back to almost brand new.
And now I'm making memories with it. The first bike where I took my 8 years old daughter for some trips. She loves it. Magical feelings.
I drive it every day, summer and winter, and I drive a lot. The bike is light, easy, steady, powerful and reliable. Something tells me I will never sell this bike.
So be careful for what you wish for 😮
@@Tarabass amazing story, thanks for sharing! I'm also finding it hard to part with the bike haja
Hé Rick, thanks for this video. It's great to see video's about bikes that aren't new. I'm looking for a first bike to buy, here in the Netherlands. Are you planning to sell the bike by yourself?
@@christiaang Hey Christiaan! Thanks for your support :) I'm planning on putting the bike on marktplaats soon, send me a DM on insta and I'll keep you updated!
Damn, really want this bike to go touring. I'll look around marketplace when I'm back in Europe.
It's perfect for touring Europe!
J'ai une TDM 850 4tx de 1999 , 65000 kilomètres , elle consomme 4 litres au 100 à 110 kms/heure 3500 trs/mn , et très peu d'huile.
Jamais eu un seul problême en 4 ans.
Just to cerrect the informatioan regarding fuel gauge, I own TDM 850 and in later production the dash was reworked and it has fuel gauge :)
Love the video, great motorcycle!
Love
Bought mine as a first bike. Really love it. Mine also has a fuel gauge, fuel light and no reserve fuel switch. Yours cant be a 2001 model, mine is 1997 and has all those features
@@MrKenpetgam definitely, my mistake! Someone else also pointed this out, don't know how I got 2001 in my head... Thank you for watching and for your comment ✌️
Many thanks for your interesting video!! Your TDM has a flat cockpit widescreen. Its original or from which producer?? Or was it shortened?... Best regards from Germany
Thank you for watching! Sadly I don't know what that particular part is from. It came like this when I bought the bike!
The bike is strangled with the standard cans, get some aftermarket free flow exhausts. Cheap & easy.
Worked on these and the 900s.Timing tensioner stucks sometimes,but the biggest fault is the cooling tube on top of the cylinder head.Other than that,really good bikes(seen with 170k miles on the 850,and 160k kms on the 900) For me,i like the 850 more,though changing the battery is a pita
@@bikeserv thanks for the insight!
That's not a 2001 model, it's a 1998. I have one in the same color. 1999 and up had fuel gauge. Good bike that does most things well but is a bit bland. Very sensible bike but doesn't awake any emotions.
@@atlejohnnyrygg7124 oh you're absolutely right! Don't know how I got 2001 in my head... Thanks for watching and thanks for pointing that out ✌️
The TDM engine is a proper beast and is made to last and with a very nice sound for a parallel twin. The bike in general is made to last, but putting the battery behind the swingarm is a big design flaw. you have to dismantle half a bike just to change the battery.
He got the age/model wrong, on my RN08 the battery is under the seat as usual.
how tall are you? you make that bike look pretty small but i KNOW it's not. i'm 5'-10" with a 30" inseam (USA) and could not flatfoot my 1992 model even with boots with a 1" heel.
Hey, I'm around 6 foot but very long legged, the tdm fits me pretty well but leg room could be a tad better for my long legs. Thanks for watching!
Had one for about two months before i had the oil run out without knowing it drinks the stuff. Totalled it so currently looking to get another one next season
@@MatthijsMolenaar that's a shame, sorry to hear about that!
@@RickChardet Welp, you live and you learn :p Luckily i didn't sell my old motorcycle yet so i can still do my summer trip down to Germany this august 🤙
@@MatthijsMolenaar lovely, enjoy it! Some great roads there :)
How did you total it? What happened when the oil ran out
@@wotererio At first not much. The previous owner probably didn't know to refill the oil often either, so never did and i didn't know it too. Am riding almost daily so did about 2-3k km on it in the first few months after winter. Drove to work without noticing any issues, but when i started it to head back immediately heard loud ticking with every cilinder stroke. Drove to the nearest garage that was open to check it out and they said there was close to no oil in it. Filled it up and said i might be able to make it home but they advised against it. Being stubborn (and slightly in denial) i did try and drive it home as the ticking was less severe after refilling the oil, but made it about 8-10km before the ticking became knocking and the rpm began to flutter severely. Then, when going on a roundabout an i pulled the clutch in, the engine just died. Was able to restart while rolling around the roundabout, but the knocking changed to a more grinding, metal-screws-in-shredder kind of way so decided to stop and call road services. They brought it to my motorcycle garage and they determined my crankshaft, cilinders, valves and anything in between was at the least damaged, at the most fully destroyed. Only fix would be an engine swap which would be almost as much in costs as buying another tdm so i deemed it financially total-loss.
They are great bikes,ive had the 850 and the 900 which even though i now ride the big tdm a super tenere 1200 i have kept my old 2002 tdm 900, still runs like a dream i will never sell it,ps their are many improvements in the 900 IE they dont use oil like the 850 they made improvements in the engine to stop that,but the biggest improvement is the all aluminium frame, much stiffer and stronger
@@kevingullick1596 would love to try the Tenere 1200, really interesting bikes!
Mine has a fuel gauge, the newer pieces with the new dashboard, they have.
+1 nice bike and cool guy
Oehh die ziet er goed uit man, denk dat ik die ga halen als ik mn A heb en dan vervolgens perongeluk verliefd worden en hem nooit ga verkopen. Hoelang ben je trouwens? ik ben 176, is dat lang genoeg voor deze bike?
@@grssu haha nice, ik ben 1.85! Denk dat je met 1.76 best prima uit de voeten kan ;) maar zou er sws zelf even op gaan zitten en kijken of je comfortabel bent!
This is one of those bikes that just work very well and you somehow fall in love with. I never rode it, but I would love to. Nice and detailed video. Enjoyed. Drop by to check my content. You may like it. Take care. Cheers.
how fast have you driven it?
@@maksimjelenkovic8116 I hit 185 km/h on the start finish straight at assen!
are those the original mirrors+arms ?
@@shadiandrew I think so!
can you give me that bike? thanks
"this is the best bike you can buy. i'm getting rid of it"
@@180FiftyFive yup! On to something different
Beter goed Nederlands dan slecht Engels
Real bikers wear boots common sense do you have any
just bought one