Blindfold Challenge - Driven Guitar Amps - Modelling vs Solid State vs Valve

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @Ace0077
    @Ace0077 9 лет назад +119

    this is a good proof guys that there's no point over-analysing shit, just go out there, plug your guitar into several amps and pick the one you like the most, regardless of whether it's analogue, digital or valve, because in the end, even experts like these can't tell the difference completely

    • @6idangle
      @6idangle 9 лет назад +14

      It's like wine tasting is conclusively shown to be inconsistent and based off labels. Just pick what taste you like and drink that wine. Amps are much the same solid state modeling has gotten to the point where it can deliver a solid tube sound. I run all digit components and get a decent tube sound that no one can tell is digital.

    • @Ace0077
      @Ace0077 9 лет назад +2

      Tyler Potts
      Exactly, maybe what matters a little bit more here is the speaker size.

    • @Kathayne636
      @Kathayne636 5 лет назад +1

      @@chopperdeath But even here the players can't tell.

    • @axeljairo8105
      @axeljairo8105 3 года назад

      sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know of a way to get back into an Instagram account??
      I stupidly forgot the password. I love any assistance you can offer me!

    • @caingianni4678
      @caingianni4678 3 года назад

      @Axel Jairo instablaster :)

  • @AuldHammer
    @AuldHammer 9 лет назад +63

    "Can you lift your neck?.....your guitar neck!" Probably my favourite moment ever.

  • @macktheinterloper
    @macktheinterloper 9 лет назад +69

    As soon as you played the first chord on your Les Paul through the Marshall my first immediate thought was "we're done here". I agree with Rob, it just sounds perfect. It's a no contest really.

    • @krippleguy6085
      @krippleguy6085 9 лет назад +6

      if you are in to that over done everyone has it sound... so generic it hurts to listen. do you really want people to go "yeah, marshall and a lp." or do you want "dont know what it is but its awesome!"?

    • @jonpalmiere
      @jonpalmiere 9 лет назад +19

      ***** lol metal hipster

    • @krippleguy6085
      @krippleguy6085 9 лет назад +14

      just sick of all the same crap from everyone. nobody seems to want originality, just tradition. do your own thing instead of wanting to sound like somebody else.

    • @utooberblooper
      @utooberblooper 9 лет назад +9

      *****
      the thing is,it absolutely is not crap,that's what makes the sound so rich,sweet,soulful and identifiable.
      it is the perfect blend of 2 elements combined to make something essentially perfect.

    • @Crail
      @Crail 9 лет назад

      ***** seriously man? There may be generic tones that TONS of people love, but the point here is, there's a reason for that, and simply put; They love the tone.. it makes them happy, so who are you to give them shit for what they like? Not trying to be too harsh on you, just my 2 cents. Tone aside, Rock on |m/

  • @teunputker
    @teunputker 9 лет назад +100

    SPOILER ALERT
    Order:
    Modelling - Vox Valvetronix
    Valve - Marshall DSL
    Solid State - Orange Crush
    Lee:
    Solid State
    Valve
    Modelling
    Rob:
    Solid State
    Modelling
    Valve
    Lee got 1 right, the valve one, Rob 0.

    • @VoiceOfGood
      @VoiceOfGood 5 лет назад +2

      I have a VOX AVT50w that I use with a Hughes & Kettner 100w Custom Cabinet with Greenbacks, and everywhere I play, people friggin' LOVE my Tone and only very few Guitar Players claim they can "hear" that the amp is a Modeling Amp .. all the rest RAVE about my Tone :-)

    • @danmayes4657
      @danmayes4657 5 лет назад +2

      @@VoiceOfGood I gigged with a AD120VT set on "Blackface" (Fender Twin). During a break a guy came up and was looking all over the stage for the Fender. He swore there was a Twin hiding on the stage somewhere!

    • @chriscolabella880
      @chriscolabella880 4 года назад

      I own the Vox used here. Sounds great, prefer it to my BJ unless things are very, very loud. It does also have a 12AX7 in the power section so it's a hybrid really.

  • @JeffBarberDigideus
    @JeffBarberDigideus 9 лет назад +641

    50 shades of gain?

    • @AtulLasrado
      @AtulLasrado 9 лет назад +13

      My kind of 50 shades movie! :P

    • @Theskybluelake
      @Theskybluelake 9 лет назад +21

      that book is just worthless liberal Garbage

    • @RobChappers
      @RobChappers  9 лет назад +46

      ha ha ha!!!

    • @jwalkrr
      @jwalkrr 9 лет назад +5

      Lol! Now that I would pay to see

    • @leito684
      @leito684 9 лет назад +1

      Damn you beat me to it!! ;) haha

  • @DaviTrovon
    @DaviTrovon 8 лет назад +83

    I am using headphones. I could swear that the chicken sound at 18:05 come from somewhere in my room!!

    • @austomj
      @austomj 8 лет назад +5

      I seriously got confused too! Looked around the room wondering where the chicken was haha

    • @Nems271
      @Nems271 8 лет назад +15

      I was half asleep. It freeked me out...

    • @iJohnnyZac
      @iJohnnyZac 8 лет назад +3

      Dude i just fucking replayed it i shit myself twice

    • @adrianforbes7863
      @adrianforbes7863 8 лет назад

      That's binaural audio. If you record a room with a stereo mic (or two mics - L/R) it sounds like you're in the room when you play it back.

    • @ccanaves
      @ccanaves 8 лет назад +1

      Exactly the same happened to me. I had to take the headphones off and play the sound again to see where the hell that was coming from. With the headphones on it sounded like it was coming from behind the computer!

  • @mcadamsrandy
    @mcadamsrandy 9 лет назад +20

    I know y'all read these comments and it was so sweet the Capt"n named his Les Paul after Lola. I went back to Sound like Jimi Hendrix, Mark Tremonti & Brian May for under a £1000 where Lola was Kiss"n the Capt'n Chrismas 2011. I've been a Fan for a long time. God bless your hole crew. what a group of great guys.

  • @IsaacJDean
    @IsaacJDean 9 лет назад +12

    The blindfold videos are always super interesting and hilarious.

  • @jurajperdoch9433
    @jurajperdoch9433 9 лет назад +88

    next blindfold challenge - AxeFXII vs. Kemper vs. line6 hd500x in clean fenderish tone, vox, jcm800 and 5150
    or blindfold mini series - AxeFXII/Kemper/Line6 simulating one amp vs the real amp (once JCM800, once VOX AC30 ...)
    or/and modeling amp challenge - vox valvetronic vs. blackstar id vs. fender mustang vs. LINE6 Spider - all heads and only one cab

    • @WhoAmIWill
      @WhoAmIWill 9 лет назад +1

      I would say Eleven rack instead of line 6

    • @TheGospelGuitarist
      @TheGospelGuitarist 9 лет назад +1

      I was thinking about something like this too. Two modeling amps and the real deal. A Vox modeling a Vox and Fender modeling Fenders...nah. AxFX, Boss GT100, Kemper, Eleven Rack, Line6 - these kind of modeling amps up against the real JCM800, Vox 30, Fender Deluxe, Bassman, Soldano, Messa ect.

    • @FUTBOLis1
      @FUTBOLis1 9 лет назад +8

      I still want the blindfolded Ibanez gio rg premium and prestiege!!!

    • @greghay7744
      @greghay7744 9 лет назад +1

      Jeremy Komer hell yes! Let's get some ibanez in here!

    • @VoiceOfGood
      @VoiceOfGood 5 лет назад

      GREAT IDEA .. :-)

  • @hughtubecube
    @hughtubecube 9 лет назад +7

    Chaptain Video + Coffee + Blindfolds = 50 Shades of Grey for guitarists. It's the only thing which is both amazing and appalling at the same time, and we love 'em for it.

  • @outoworkdreamer
    @outoworkdreamer 9 лет назад +74

    what a way to make a living :)

    • @claudiocruzat4768
      @claudiocruzat4768 8 лет назад +5

      man..these guys live a perfecto life, to get a job there in chile ,in a music store, you must own a degree, study sound engineering, its a small place chile, and a real downer for someone who watches this reality overseas.

    • @outoworkdreamer
      @outoworkdreamer 8 лет назад +1

      where do you go to buy musical equipment?

  • @fox0712
    @fox0712 9 лет назад +52

    Fuck the sound of the amps...wtf is with the chicken noise at 1:17 ?
    If you wear headphones it sounds like it's in the room with you.
    Mind. Blown.

    • @napestar
      @napestar 9 лет назад +7

      yeah dude i was watching this in a room by myself not looking at the screen and it scared the hell out of me hah.

    • @mrbsred1
      @mrbsred1 9 лет назад +1

      Jordan Fox Me three. Scared the Sh "Quark" out of me!

    • @Renshen1957
      @Renshen1957 9 лет назад +2

      Jordan Fox Agreed, it made me soil my armor. And you don't know how hard it is to dry clean chain mail.

    • @delbathemonster
      @delbathemonster 9 лет назад +1

      COMPLETELY YES, MY FRIEND.

    • @FirstLast-jd2ds
      @FirstLast-jd2ds 9 лет назад +2

      Jordan Fox Awards to the person that mixed that chicken sound, I got sort of an HTRF, made turn my head using very cheap headphones.

  • @TheGospelGuitarist
    @TheGospelGuitarist 9 лет назад +8

    You could place a two 12" cab in front of you guys and a switcher to switch amps so you would hear amps directly and the switching is done off camera so the viewer can have fun guessing too. You wouldn't even need blindfolds. Just hide the switcher from your viewpoint. This could be very fun for a Live event.

  • @imaquis8368
    @imaquis8368 9 лет назад +29

    Kemper and AxeFxII vs real thing would be a great video for you guys to do next!

  • @EventHorizonPrdctns
    @EventHorizonPrdctns 9 лет назад +34

    It's really hard to describe the difference a tube amp tone feels vs a solid state, but the best way I can think to say it is that a solid state has a much more stable tone; meaning the note will sound the same throughout its sustain, whereas a tube amp the note takes on a life of its own and you can hear layers and fluctuations throughout the sustain which will also be slightly different each time.
    A second, more subtle difference is that a solid state tone will feel more like it is trying to sound a certain way regardless of how you play the string - more specifically the note will JUMP to that style/sound when a tube amp would GROW INTO the tone, even if the end result is the same.
    So in certain cases and applications a solid state could even be considered superior, but I definitely prefer a tube amp because while it's more challenging it gives you more control over style aka ALLOWS the tone to come from your fingers like the saying goes. It's like the difference between driving a manual and an automatic transmission.

    • @gumbyforthewin3537
      @gumbyforthewin3537 9 лет назад +3

      Thats a really great way to describe the difference to people who dont know. Like Rob said, the dsl was 'too perfect' because solid state sound much tighter and more predictable

    • @kinkiebeast
      @kinkiebeast 9 лет назад +3

      I know nothing about amps and this was a great comparison.

    • @caidurkan251
      @caidurkan251 9 лет назад +2

      Also due to that jump, they're very percussive in the main, making them quite good for ballad cleans, and also certain types of rock and metal, eg Pantera. I personally love solid state for that reason, takes no effort to cut through a mix.

    • @gumbyforthewin3537
      @gumbyforthewin3537 9 лет назад +2

      Johnny greenwood(guitarist of radiohead) used an old fender solid state amp along with an ac30

    • @PIlotrcm
      @PIlotrcm 9 лет назад

      I understand what you're getting at.
      Modeling amps accept a guitars signal and process it to make a certain type of sound out of its speakers, simply taking the low output signal and processing it. Otherwise messing with the guitar or amp's volume has little change in sound as opposed to a tube amp that reacts. I find tube amps tend to be more like part of the whole instrument that is, the electric guitar and that the guitar itself becomes an integral part of the circuitry rather just a signal producer. Tube/valve also compress and clip as the power amp goes up rather than simply causing speaker farting as SS do but I have to admit, some of the solid state/ modeling amp's technology and processors are getting so powerful and good that they can replicate tubes/vales with incredible detail much better than say, ones from 20 years ago.
      It's ironic though as what the tube/valve amps do so poorly, primarily producing a clean signal, is what makes them so sought after. That clipping circuit is as much a happy accident as those poor yellowing finishes on a '59 Les Paul. ;)

  • @iAmTheSquidThing
    @iAmTheSquidThing 9 лет назад +9

    Amp 1 is at 4:45 and 6:20
    Amp 2 is at 8:32 and 9:55
    Amp 3 is at 13:25 and 16:33

  • @Jman9112
    @Jman9112 8 лет назад +47

    You should do this with all Marshall, a mg solid state, the Marshall core, and a valve jcm or something similar

    • @reneotten2288
      @reneotten2288 7 лет назад +2

      Yes, and same cabinet all the time

    • @aidenseabridge6752
      @aidenseabridge6752 7 лет назад +1

      Jman9112 or the marshall code emulating an amp like a jcm 800 vs a jcm 800

  • @ENZO76133
    @ENZO76133 9 лет назад +62

    kemper vs Axe Fx vs Valve

    • @franticphilgaming
      @franticphilgaming 9 лет назад

      +Lorenzo Rizzardi Great Idea

    • @HawxGaming
      @HawxGaming 8 лет назад +3

      +Frantic Phil Line 6 Helix too...

    • @pashtrik6174
      @pashtrik6174 8 лет назад +7

      i would add bias

    • @dr150
      @dr150 8 лет назад +3

      Add the Amplifire as well.

    • @snapascrew
      @snapascrew 8 лет назад

      splitting hairs man, just pick which ever one makes more sense to you they all sound cool.

  • @arsenalfanrichi
    @arsenalfanrichi 9 лет назад +7

    The Marshall did sound fantastic

  • @cpamiseso
    @cpamiseso 8 лет назад +33

    "I can here that this guitar is blue"
    "Really? You got exceptional hearing then"
    This one got me laughing. Nice job.

    • @vinopit
      @vinopit 7 лет назад +1

      i can taste the copper on trus rod end

    • @daydreamer1246
      @daydreamer1246 6 лет назад

      Me too. Lol

  • @tommeakin1732
    @tommeakin1732 9 лет назад +4

    Fuck yes just got a cup of coffee and refreshed my sub box and got a nice surprise :P

  • @jhar9022
    @jhar9022 9 лет назад +1

    That is the first tele-style guitar that has ever made me like a tele-style guitar. I hate telecasters, but that guitar is fully righteous.

  • @JMP_2203
    @JMP_2203 9 лет назад +7

    You guys should go in a separate room and use headphones to hear the mic'd signal so that you both hear the same thing. You won't need blindfolds because you won't see the amps, and you'll get the same tone that we hear from the video.

  • @lukebogartmix
    @lukebogartmix 9 лет назад +2

    Wow, the Les Paul, "Lola", reminded me of when Lola was whining during the practice amp shootout, and then I remembered that the same Vox Valvetronix amp was in that shootout!

  • @stianstrana
    @stianstrana 9 лет назад +106

    The Les Paul sounds soo much better than the ML-3! Wooow

    • @visualdragon
      @visualdragon 9 лет назад +50

      and costs about 10 times as much so, you know...

    • @victorgiannelli6768
      @victorgiannelli6768 9 лет назад +1

      Yeah, The Les Paul has double coils C;.

    • @jamesbattersby9454
      @jamesbattersby9454 9 лет назад +5

      Chapman guitars are great and sound fantastic with upgraded pickups but I would expect that les Paul to sound better always. It won't sound 10 times as good though which is roughly the price difference. And for the record I have owned an ML-2 and an ML-1 Bea which were both great but I sold to help pay for a PRS Tremonti 10 Top!

    • @jamesbattersby9454
      @jamesbattersby9454 9 лет назад

      Yeah gibson have had some issues with quality but I feel this started when the chambering was introduced in the mid 2000's all of the 90's Les Paul's I have played have been astounding. Chapman make superb guitars and I will deffo buy a ghost fret when they come out but gibson custom shop re-issue should be a work of art and sound the proverbial dogs ;)

    • @jamesbattersby9454
      @jamesbattersby9454 9 лет назад +2

      I would say if you are buying a premium guirar value for money is not a word that can be applied. I own a 1995 les Paul standard, Stormshadow guitar works custom build kramer replica and a prs tremonti 10 top. I don't think any of those are value for money but they are unparalleled in craftsman-ship and quality and that's what you get when you pay over £2000 for a guitar. This is of course my opinion and ultimately everyone has differing opinions ;)

  • @reezalguy
    @reezalguy 7 лет назад

    OMG. i played along with the blindfold challenge and GOT IT RIGHT for the first time ever. Been on guitars for more than 10 years and though i do know there is a difference between diff type of amps, i have never been able to tell the difference with my ears previously. Thanks !

  • @michaelchaplin926
    @michaelchaplin926 8 лет назад +15

    Not clear which one was which.....
    SPOILER ALERT
    Order:
    Modelling - Vox Valvetronix
    Valve - Marshall DSL
    Solid State - Orange Crush
    Lee:
    Solid State
    Valve
    Modelling
    Rob:
    Solid State
    Modelling
    Valve
    Lee got 1 right, the valve one, Rob 0.

    • @michaeleaster1815
      @michaeleaster1815 8 лет назад +2

      +Michael Chaplin thank you .... fun experiment but impossible to follow w/o these notes

    • @beyondthetitans4170
      @beyondthetitans4170 8 лет назад

      I got the tube amp correct, but I mixed the solid state and modeling amps mixed up.

    • @Buckethead7777777777
      @Buckethead7777777777 8 лет назад

      I got all three of them right, weeee! I could tell right away what the solid state amp was. The Modeling amp and the Valve amp were difficult, but the Valve amp had just a twinge more of that trademark "breakup" gain sound to it. It goes to show that Modeling amps and Valvestate hybrid amps can be awesome and practically indistinguishable.

  • @BrandonNevermind
    @BrandonNevermind 9 лет назад +1

    I made sure to be on a different tab when I listened to this, and I feel proud of myself - my first instinct was correct! I started doubting my ear when they were discussing it towards the end, but I stuck with what I thought.

  • @96rasco
    @96rasco 9 лет назад +13

    Rob please do a blindfolded EMG vs Seymour Duncan test

  • @sparkman1965
    @sparkman1965 9 лет назад +1

    I love the thought that the amp was trying to "sell" Rob that is was a valve amp Love it

  • @Boogieplex
    @Boogieplex 9 лет назад +3

    Captain knows his valves.

  • @Live4Ibanez
    @Live4Ibanez 9 лет назад

    Blind fold tests are the best. Keep them coming rob

  • @TTidu
    @TTidu 9 лет назад +7

    You should use amps with ext speaker outs and a single cabinet next time.

  • @the.guitarists.friend8910
    @the.guitarists.friend8910 7 лет назад

    Got to love the obligatory 15th fret bend, as soon the grandmaster Chapman touches a guitar!

  • @Psztyk236
    @Psztyk236 9 лет назад +5

    World needs CAP10 in lefty version!

  • @tireoghain82
    @tireoghain82 9 лет назад

    That was the first Marshall combo I've heard that I thought sounded awesome. These blindfold tests are fun!

  • @mybluemars
    @mybluemars 8 лет назад +9

    Thanks for this great video! I think Rob didn't like the sound of the Orange amp because he was too damn close to it. If you do another one of these you may want to try putting the amps at the same (approximate) distance from each player.

    • @JayJayStudios1
      @JayJayStudios1 8 лет назад +2

      yup, and heigth. but you know it's hard and requires a "scientist" to put all variables into account. that means alot of thinking and working. still a nice glance at the topic here on their channel

  • @barryhicks2827
    @barryhicks2827 8 лет назад

    These are absolutely the BEST demo videos on RUclips! Also the funniest. LOVE Anderton's! Wish they had a location here in the states,

  • @tomwood_116
    @tomwood_116 9 лет назад +4

    For the next challenge how about comparing pedals with a cheap copy, a classic pedal (muff/tube screamer etc) and a boutique copy?

  • @nitegoat1369
    @nitegoat1369 9 лет назад +1

    Lola is an amazing guitar. Fine choice, Captain!

  • @markuskaardal
    @markuskaardal 9 лет назад +9

    Kemper vs Axe Fx II vs Valve

  • @kendickinson8307
    @kendickinson8307 9 лет назад +1

    That was really interesting. Especially, that two trained ears (even one who knew exactly which amps were being used) got it wrong. I've always felt that an untrained ear (ie the typical club audience) will be just fine with a 'lesser' amp as long as it still has a decent sound. Personally, I have four different rigs: A high-end boutique tube amp, a low end/low wattage tube amp, a relatively low end (but still decent) solid state, and a modeling rig. My preference, is 1) boutique, 2) low-end tube amp, 3) modeler, 4) solid state. That said, for gigs, I seldom use the boutique amp because it's heavy, I don't want to risk it in a club, and the audience is quite happy with one of the other amps. In fact, the modeling rig works really well for many gigs because of the variety of tones available (something an audience DOES like). But the thing I find is that a better amp is not only tonally nice, but also a better playing experience. A good amp feels better so I enjoy it more and, thus, play better (people have commented on that).
    Other things I'd love to seem them do in these blindfold tests:
    1) Keep doing them. They're really interesting.
    2) Try different amps (of course). For example, the Vox is not what I'd have considered to be a really good modeler. It would have been interesting to hear some others - maybe a Blackstar or something. Also, the Marshall is a good amp but it's not THAT high end. So what we had here was a pretty decent solid state, a not so great modeler, and a medium-decent tube amp (granted, all affordable). It would be interesting to hear a really good solild state, a really good modeler, compared with a midrange tube amp and/or a really good tube amp (I have a feeling a really good tube amp will always win but whatever).
    3) I mentioned versatility of tone. Of course, you can get that through dirt pedals, etc. as well as modelers. What about running pedals through the amps (granted, the modeler might not handle it but you'd probably do something different there). It would be interesting to compare a good pedal through a good Fender with the same pedal through something like a Quilter.
    Thanks for the video. Good one!

  • @Kianquenseda
    @Kianquenseda 8 лет назад +28

    DSL is hands down the best sounding

    • @Doofkopf12345
      @Doofkopf12345 8 лет назад +1

      Had it for 3 years and it's broken now just after the warranty expired. Most of the tone on the distorted channel just kinda vanished, a lot of noise even while playing and the fuses keep blowing.
      It will be missed dearly :/

    • @Doofkopf12345
      @Doofkopf12345 8 лет назад

      ***** That's what I thought too, but apparently it's not that. Had it's tubes swapped and also a new transistor, but it just keeps on dying and doesn't sound good at all any more :/

    • @heMANshred
      @heMANshred 8 лет назад

      +Doofkopf12345 hey man you need to look up jcm2000 bias drift. apperently the ones made up to 2003 had this problem. What year is yours? Should be able to tell with the serial number?

    • @Doofkopf12345
      @Doofkopf12345 8 лет назад

      Austin Arthur It's actually not old at all. If I remember correctly it was manufactured in 2012.
      I'll let someone look into it eventually and continue using it as a practice amp, but I already bought a new amp, since it broke a few days before a show.
      In all honesty I'm kind of glad it broke, since it gave me an excuse to finally invest in an Orange Th30 + 2x12 Orange cab :D

    • @heMANshred
      @heMANshred 8 лет назад

      That's a sweet replacement! I'm unsure what issue that may be but I know marshall began importing completed PCB's from China around '08. I'm about to buy a jcm2000 tsl122 combo from '05. I'm taking the plunge into amp tech so if it happens to turn south I'm sure I'll do what I can. I'd suggest you do some googling and reddit posting/searching for your specific and similar problems. Also, have a tech check it out. You never know it could be a cheap fix!

  • @gumbyforthewin3537
    @gumbyforthewin3537 9 лет назад +2

    Id love to see a blindfold 'putting leads into different amps, guitars and pedals' video

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie 9 лет назад +6

    Keeper vs Axe Fx vs tube amp, all using the same amp model?

  • @otisreading4276
    @otisreading4276 9 лет назад

    Oh, and seeing someone plug the guitars in takes away the fun of guessing ourselves. But great fun!

  • @sapphirestrat
    @sapphirestrat 8 лет назад +3

    that last amp sounds nasty :0

  • @mikkolangot
    @mikkolangot 7 лет назад +1

    That Les Paul sounds amazing on valve amp.

  • @gordontubbs
    @gordontubbs 9 лет назад +3

    So... the DSL40 is a "perfect valve amp"?

  • @mortemdrummer
    @mortemdrummer 7 лет назад

    Hey guys i really dig your stuff. Been watching for a few years now anytime i feel down i watch chappers and lee and i feel good again.

  • @apinakapinastorba
    @apinakapinastorba 9 лет назад +16

    Rabea gave it all away to us, plugging those amps in :) Next time, please please please make it so that we cannot see which is which, ok? Use a switch box, or multiple cables or something.

    •  9 лет назад +20

      Just don't watch when he's plugging them in. That's what I did.

    • @apinakapinastorba
      @apinakapinastorba 9 лет назад

      Tilen Marš Yeah, I just thought they would have done it different this time :) And it was too late after seeing him plugging in the first one.

    • @apinakapinastorba
      @apinakapinastorba 9 лет назад

      ***** It's already too late to be a smartypants, isn't it?

    • @apinakapinastorba
      @apinakapinastorba 9 лет назад

      ***** Didn't understand.

    • @apinakapinastorba
      @apinakapinastorba 9 лет назад

      ***** Pyh.

  • @sniffmatip3865
    @sniffmatip3865 4 года назад

    "could you lift your neck please" that made me chuckle

  • @ThoughtThinkerTomas
    @ThoughtThinkerTomas 9 лет назад +3

    1st sounded best imo. It was a vox. #2 was marshall with a good sound but not the nicest driven tone, I blame it on the fifty shades of gain blindfolds. The orange at 3rd what a crappy one I expected better from an orange but hey it was the solid state. I finally know that I want a valve but not a marshall, who wants to sound like a marshall? If I find a vox modelling amp with valve preamp or something along those line that can deliver what I want from clean then that would be cool and cheaper!

    • @ericlpz12
      @ericlpz12 9 лет назад

      Yeah I own the Vox vt15. Best sounds ever. got it used and the tones i get are amazing. it breaks up awesome.

    • @graemehodges4367
      @graemehodges4367 9 лет назад +5

      Just goes to show we're all different. When Rob started playing through the first one I thought it sounded awful, but assumed it was down to the ghastly blue contraption he was playing. Then Lee put the LP through it and I realised it was awful.

    • @BenCaffrey
      @BenCaffrey 9 лет назад +2

      I want to sound like a Marshall. My favourites are 1) JCM800 2) Tommy Lee Jones 3) James Marshal Hendrix.

  • @TwoHeavyThrash
    @TwoHeavyThrash 9 лет назад

    That Lola + Marshall tone crushed me.

  • @DriveCarToBar
    @DriveCarToBar 9 лет назад +29

    Funny thing is people will still swear by tube amps even after plugging their tube screamer in front of it and delivering a solid state signal into their tube amp.

    • @mrbsred1
      @mrbsred1 9 лет назад

      Mike McKeen Is that true? I can't fathom how exactly. Also, I checked Google and found nothing.

    • @bojackhorseman5367
      @bojackhorseman5367 9 лет назад +21

      Mike McKeen That's a moot point because plugging an overdrive pedal into an amp doesn't in any way negate the tonal qualities of the amp or how it interacts with the signal it receives.
      One of the reasons why so many guitarists still swear by tube amps is because of the way they respond to overdrive pedals.

    • @Renshen1957
      @Renshen1957 9 лет назад +5

      Mike McKeen Put a tube screamer in front of a solid state amp and..(drum roll)..it-sounds-like-cr@p! The tube screamer overdrives the preamp tubes etc. into lovely tube distortion. Similar to the Marshall & LP combo, a tube screamer (with a half dead battery) is part of the lethargy or tradition of Rock Guitar timbres. Tube screamers are cheap by comparison with a tube amp chain. Back in the day Garnet developed and introduced the all tube Herzog working with Randy Bachman and this was the source of tone on American Women as played by Randy Bachman (Guess Who). Bachman worked with Gar Gillies of Garnet to produce the Herzog, Gar made sure Randy didn't electrocute himself after his earlier attempts to drive a tube amp with a tube amp (which fried at least one amp). Today Bachman claims the sound is from a Les Paul's Humbucers, and not an amp chain; old age may have clouded his memory or it didn't fit into RB's guitar series on YT.

    • @bojackhorseman5367
      @bojackhorseman5367 9 лет назад +6

      Renshen1957
      A tube screamer only makes a solid state amp sound crap if you're not setting it up properly to work with that type of amp. If you're trying to boost a solid state amp in the same way you'd boost a tube amp, you're just gonna overload the input stage and get horrible hard clipping that sounds awful. You can still use tubescreamer pedals and get good results with most solid state amps, you just have to be a bit more careful with how you set the output level of the pedal.

    • @Renshen1957
      @Renshen1957 9 лет назад +2

      ***** My point exactly to Mike McKeen, a tube screamer is used in a tube amp to overdrive (overload) the front end into distortion, not for the "delivering a solid state signal.." McKeen infers by his posted comment that a tube amp is no longer valid as a tube amp if a SS signal is added.
      I referred to overdriving the front end (preamp) with tubes something you cannot do with a solid state amp that uses BJTs and even JFETs. Never said you can't use a TS with SS amp, only that can't use them for the same reason. You have validated my point as to a superior feature of tubes vs SS (how they distort with signal overload) and the greater limitations in applications with solid state.
      A JFET preamp might give a better effect if overdriven (JFETs superficially behave similar to how a tube works), and a JFET and MOSFET cascode might get closer to how tubes behave, but that would cost money. Squalid State amps have always been dollar driven (cutting corners to save money by minimal part counts), right down to the diodes used to induce distortion, (LEDs, or Zeners would give a better sound) which a simple resister which costs a less than a penny when purchased in bulk could be used for a bounding circuit for the diodes, or better yet wire transistors as zeners in place of diodes, for a better sound quality. However a TS in front of a roland cube (JFET preamp) or a Randall JFET preamp would have to carefully set up as you posted.

  • @AgusGonzalez1998
    @AgusGonzalez1998 9 лет назад +2

    That Les Paul is beautiful Captain!

  • @Terry3Gs
    @Terry3Gs 9 лет назад +9

    ummmmm doesn't the vox valtronix's actualy have a 12ax7 pre-amp tube? cause that's what I remember them having.

    • @guitarnist
      @guitarnist 9 лет назад +2

      It has a 12 ax7 in the output stage to color the sound.

    • @sjftech
      @sjftech 9 лет назад +2

      Steven Roberts so it's still kind of an invalid test...

    • @Terry3Gs
      @Terry3Gs 9 лет назад +1

      Well I guess technical a modeler with a tube would be a modeler ... BUT .... They should have probly done 1 if the newer mustangs ..... The problem is there are a lot of great ss amps that have tube like circuitry in it ..... Randall n orange being the two common known ones of it.

    • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
      @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr 9 лет назад

      ***** I agree. The orange solid states are terrible, but there good ones. I'd put my red stripe 112 up against damn near anything. It's a great amp and I only paid 65 bucks for it off cl. I can't believe they used one of those chappy oranges for this. Hell I'd rather use an old crate 212 than one of those.

    • @sinlapse13
      @sinlapse13 9 лет назад +1

      Thomas R. Bowen my cr120 is an ass kicker.

  • @TheRosswise
    @TheRosswise 9 лет назад

    Good to know that the amps are so close, even the pros have trouble telling the difference between them.

  • @NergalDaimonoz
    @NergalDaimonoz 8 лет назад +5

    8:00
    "Excusez-moi ...
    Merci ..."

    • @TMmodify
      @TMmodify 8 лет назад +1

      Arthur N.Booklyn his French accent is alright. If you wake me up in the middle of the night and make me listen to Bea's French Accent,I might tell you it's a foreigner who has lived in France for a few years/ a decade. before punching you in the face because nobody fucking disturbs me when I'm fucking sleeping.

    • @NergalDaimonoz
      @NergalDaimonoz 8 лет назад

      En fait au début j'ai cru qu'il était français, j'ai dû regarder sa bio pour comprendre que ce n'était pas le cas

    • @TMmodify
      @TMmodify 8 лет назад

      Arthur N.Booklyn sérieux ? Je trouve qu'il fait beaucoup plus "naturalisé français" après c'était peut-être ta première vidéo avec Bea dedans

    • @NergalDaimonoz
      @NergalDaimonoz 8 лет назад

      J'ai pas trouvé d'autres vidéos où il parlait français, j'ai pas réellement pu sentir ce genre de trucs

    • @aioliconviction
      @aioliconviction 7 лет назад

      Il faut avouer qu'il a un très bon accent.
      C'est la troisième vidéo de Chappers où j'entends du français, ça fait toujours plaisir !

  • @TantricConvulsions
    @TantricConvulsions 9 лет назад

    I'm just now seeing the smiles across the faces of Chaptain when Lee hit that first chord on the Marshall DSL. Absolutely hilarious.

  • @crimsun7186
    @crimsun7186 9 лет назад +3

    This test is only valid if recorded clean (without using an amp) using a single guitar, then reamped to the specific amps using the same settings and miked the exact same way. Better yet, using the exact same cabinet that is never changed. You also watch the plus or minus 20 percert tolerance on pots. Otherwise, nothing stated is conclusive and should take into consideration. This applies to every kind of test where you're testing differences in sound. You change the only thing being tested, which are the amps.

  • @barry_hue1552
    @barry_hue1552 9 лет назад

    I also think the Marshall was too perfect. Loved it, want one.

  • @profanious
    @profanious 9 лет назад +11

    The Les Paul sounds so much better than that ML3.

    • @ryanthomason9349
      @ryanthomason9349 9 лет назад

      It seems like a better guitar as well Les Paul. Always nice guitars.

    • @jackcross1580
      @jackcross1580 9 лет назад +7

      well it is a 58 reissue, a much more expensive guitar assembled in the USA

    • @BenCaffrey
      @BenCaffrey 9 лет назад

      I wonder what guitar Bea used to dial in the tones?

  • @johnmalcolm9980
    @johnmalcolm9980 8 лет назад +1

    This video really had to be made. Thanks
    For the record
    Digital circuitry IS solid state
    and solid state circuits can be analog
    Apart from the difference between solid state and valve, there is also a marked difference (within solid state) between discrete component circuits and those using IC's

  • @connorpowell2585
    @connorpowell2585 8 лет назад +3

    Could you guys do a video where you make the best rig you possibly can, with no budget. You could have as many pedals as you want and whatever else you want. I'm just interested to see how much difference a £20000 rig makes compared to your average £1500 rig😂

    • @wolfman6489
      @wolfman6489 8 лет назад

      Haha would be interesting.

    • @connorpowell2585
      @connorpowell2585 8 лет назад

      indeed ahaha
      its an excuse for chappers and the captain to use the most expensive gear they can possibly get their hands on as well ahaha

    • @wolfman6489
      @wolfman6489 8 лет назад +1

      Connor Powell Yeah hehehe would love to see

    • @johnkammerer2198
      @johnkammerer2198 7 лет назад

      This is a really cool idea imo

  • @GraffitiPhysical
    @GraffitiPhysical 8 лет назад

    of course you can and should be able to hear a difference. The more experience you are the more you can hear. You get to realise that expensive things are expensive for a reason. Some times even for a small difference you pay a lottt. It helps you play better by knowing how well it sounds and vice versa, if you sound bad your playing can go south very quickly.

  • @chrisjenkins1
    @chrisjenkins1 8 лет назад +12

    Lol chappers who stands by and recommends playing orange amps a lot playing blindfolded saying 'this sounds horrible'.

    • @motorrebell
      @motorrebell 8 лет назад +4

      +Christopher Jenkins The Amp sounds actually awesome - maybe Its His own GUITAR that sounds like Trash .

    • @chrisjenkins1
      @chrisjenkins1 8 лет назад

      +motorrebell lol well he was blindfolded. His guitars don't seem that bad when he's played them before

    • @motorrebell
      @motorrebell 8 лет назад +2

      Christopher Jenkins Maybe the Amp was straight brand-new - Out of the Box with unused - unplayed speakers - they do sound harsh when new & need
      "break in" playing time .

    • @ARCADEGHOST
      @ARCADEGHOST 8 лет назад +1

      +motorrebell Listening again to the video, the Orange sounds much better when the Capt. plays it. While the speaker does sound like it needed to break in, what we hear was mainly of the amp's settings. I own the amp and gig with it. It's a great amp, but too heavy when compared with other SS amps.

    • @only1symo
      @only1symo 6 лет назад

      Depends on how the eq was setup the orange pro crush series sound the dogs danglies at high volumes.

  • @cmartinrel
    @cmartinrel 9 лет назад +1

    Awesome video. Please keep doing these challenges. :-)

  • @jaycbee98
    @jaycbee98 8 лет назад +16

    The blue guitar sounds shit with all amps

    • @ICKY427
      @ICKY427 6 лет назад +1

      single coil pups

  • @jasonstone8587
    @jasonstone8587 5 лет назад

    I can see Lee has progressed on the guitar....watching this Video from 2015....and watching the latest 2019...

  • @josealbertocontejr1664
    @josealbertocontejr1664 9 лет назад +4

    seven minutes to start

  • @haf816r
    @haf816r 7 лет назад

    Yay! I've been wondering about modeling amps, thank you guys!

  • @levipaustell1338
    @levipaustell1338 9 лет назад +3

    But does it Djent?

  • @Soilwar
    @Soilwar 9 лет назад

    That was really interesting! Blindfold challenges are great - please do more of those.

  • @Vortigon
    @Vortigon 8 лет назад +11

    Man I just hate the sound of orange amps - they always sound shit to me - i don't understand why they are so popular

    • @iJohnnyZac
      @iJohnnyZac 8 лет назад +1

      What sort of music do you play?

    • @mioszwojciechowski6169
      @mioszwojciechowski6169 8 лет назад +5

      It's supposed to be fuzzy and lo-fi. That's why people like Orange. It works for some situations. If you are into that vibe it's perfect.

    • @palehorseoftheapocalypse4366
      @palehorseoftheapocalypse4366 8 лет назад +11

      Orange amps are more for metalheads. That fizziness in the mids helps the distortion sound and *keeps the idiots who know nothing about sonic spaces in live venues from scooping the mids*. I hate it when people scoop mids.

    • @motorrebell
      @motorrebell 8 лет назад +4

      Maybe its because you only seen too many shitty metal demos of them , I Play Blues - HardRock and love the tone .

    • @aheartthrob
      @aheartthrob 8 лет назад +1

      It works for Mars Volta. Otherwise agree.
      I also feel the same way about the Ampeg VT-40 but it works for QOTSA.
      I used to feel that way about Mesa Boogies when Incubus and Creed made them sound like farts, but those were just the settings because they're beautiful in the hands of other artists.

  • @michaelcapanelli9233
    @michaelcapanelli9233 9 лет назад

    Cool video guys, thanks. To share my experience, I've found that a good modeling amp can indeed simulate tube tone very well. The place where I can tell the difference is when you go up in volume and listen from a few feet away. The notes decay in a very "digital" way with little to no bloom. Solid state is solid state. They have a particular sound and just like your demo, they seem to do great with chords but sound anemic with single notes. They have no bloom on the note whatsoever.
    On a side note, the DSL sounded fantastic. Whomever dialed that amp in did an outstanding job. It had a classic marshall sound that was immediately identifiable. Beautiful bloom on the notes and a snarling distortion fading in to even order harmonics. It may be the best sounding DSL I've ever heard. Outstanding!

  • @LongStraightLines
    @LongStraightLines 9 лет назад

    These blindfold tests are awesome... please keep them up ..!!!

  • @bakters
    @bakters 9 лет назад

    I got it! (Next time, be effing clear what was what in the end. Figuring out if I was right was more difficult than guessing right...)
    1. Digital sounded too good to be transistor. I was not convinced, because I don't know what they managed to do with it recently, but that was my pick anyway.
    2. Tube sounded just great, with beautiful warm and aggressive high end.
    3. Then there was this amp which was either a very bad tube amp, or a solid state amp trying to sound "warm". Solid state will either sound harsh or muddy. This one was muddy.

  • @MrHoW2Guitar
    @MrHoW2Guitar 9 лет назад

    Even through editing, rendering, an uploading I could tell the difference! But I agree with rob, the Marshall was tuned perfectly, which I assume it came straight from factory so props to Marshall.

  • @MorrisonWebDesign
    @MorrisonWebDesign 9 лет назад

    I got the order of amp type correct - going modeling, valve, and solid state. I guessed the last one was an Orange. The other two I couldn't have said who made them; but if told, I would not have guessed the Marshall would have sounded so good.

  • @MrAm98
    @MrAm98 9 лет назад

    the cube would also be a candidate for this kind of videos!

  • @j.sparrow3265
    @j.sparrow3265 8 лет назад +1

    For a blind amp comparison you could just put up a curtain so Rob and Lee can still see their guitars and can also piss about with some pedals too.

  • @MostLikelyMortal
    @MostLikelyMortal 9 лет назад

    Bought the DSL40C a few months ago-glad to know I'm not the only one who absolutely loves that tone

    • @BigEdWo
      @BigEdWo 9 лет назад

      yes - it was such a huge difference. congratulations.

  • @nbourbaki
    @nbourbaki 9 лет назад

    Hi Chappers, hi Captain.
    I'm enjoying these blindfold tests. I'd enjoy a few more of these valve vs solid state vs modelling amp videos. At the end of the video, the Captain said he wanted some reverb on the amps and Chappers said something like "we could try putting reverb in them, but we already know which one is which".
    I wouldn't mind if you two continued noodling even after the blindfolds are removed. Go ahead and develop some new conjectures with the blindfolds off, then devise some tests for them!

  • @sylvainalain6637
    @sylvainalain6637 9 лет назад +2

    Hi Lee, thanks for saying the true about the Blackstar HT serie. Blackstar says that it's all valve amps, but you know and I know that there's a Solid State circuit in the preamp and that's why the ISF is working. So, yes it's a valve amp, but not a 100% true valve amp.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 9 лет назад

      I have always seen that Blackstar says that the HT series amps have the same preamp circuit as their HT pedal range.
      What the Capt'n said is no mistery if you do research that kind of stuff.

    • @utooberblooper
      @utooberblooper 9 лет назад

      Ben Caffrey
      brilliant,cough

    • @lukeharrald8540
      @lukeharrald8540 9 лет назад +2

      Fabián Riquelme True - their circuit diagrams of their amps show all the diodes / resistors etc. in the preamp - they look nightmarish with a bunch of micro resistors on a PCB. I ended up not buying one despite liking the tone due to the difficulties around repair if they break.

  • @84greenbear
    @84greenbear 9 лет назад

    Helium really needs to be used more in equipment reviews along with electronic zappers when someone guesses wrong. KEEP THE BLINDFOLDS THOUGH!! LOL

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew 8 лет назад +2

    second amp they played has to be the valve marshall - doing the blind test myself.

  • @ohplezz
    @ohplezz 9 лет назад +1

    More Blind tests with pedals!!!

  • @ShredDanielGuitar
    @ShredDanielGuitar 9 лет назад

    You make such great videos Rob! You are creating a community of guitarists. Thanks! Keep it up! :)

  • @TheRiveroad
    @TheRiveroad 9 лет назад

    these are the best videos ! haha.
    keep em coming !

  • @dillardfilth8933
    @dillardfilth8933 7 лет назад

    10:50 That sweet sweet middle position tone. Magic

  • @wcm5150
    @wcm5150 9 лет назад +1

    Great jobs guys. This was fun. Do more of these. It's a shame I live in the usa. I would totally come visit andertons.

  • @doctari1061
    @doctari1061 6 лет назад

    That Marshall sounded perfect alright. Much better than I expected from a 1x12. I own an Orange and am now contemplating the Marshall instead.

  • @khadesru
    @khadesru 9 лет назад +1

    1st - good analog, 2nd - good sim, 3rd - bad valve lol. Priceless confusion.
    Add hybrids to test please.

  • @cunnerzzz
    @cunnerzzz 9 лет назад

    I think the Vox sounded the best by FAR! Sounded lush! :)

    • @cunnerzzz
      @cunnerzzz 9 лет назад

      Review some Metal amps?

  • @dinosaurjesus2709
    @dinosaurjesus2709 9 лет назад

    Blindfold challenge - Amp heads with the same cabinet next!

  • @kendohmassif
    @kendohmassif 9 лет назад

    I loved the sound of the Orange amp!

  • @christiannolitambio7928
    @christiannolitambio7928 9 лет назад

    Lola(captain's les paul) is a monster. Not in a bad way. I mean, the ml3 sounds great as always but the very first strum on that Les paul blew my head away. It's 4am and I'm sleepy as I can get but damn man that guitar ring me off my bed! Seriously I'm in love with that guitar now. I'm a fender type of guy with jaguar and tele but this guitar made me think about les paul now(sorry my axes). That is truly a beautiful beast. Hope to see it more. Thanks for sharing this wonderful treat. More videos please :)

  • @chriscolabella880
    @chriscolabella880 4 года назад +1

    I own the Vox used here. Sounds great, prefer it to my BJ unless things are very, very loud. It does also have a 12AX7 in the power section so it's a hybrid really.

  • @scottdematteo
    @scottdematteo 9 лет назад

    Hey Chap and Capt, love all your videos and this one as well. A suggestion for next amp test. Have all amps facing you, as they would face the audience, all next to one another so there is no left right center. If you're sitting approx 10-15 feet away, you they should all sound pretty much centered to you. Also, the RUclips viewer such as myself would not be able to see them either, they would be off the screen. The camera can pan to them at end for the reveal for all.