Is GE Silicone #1 Or GE Silicone #2 Safe For Aquarium Use?
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Both GE Silicon #1 and GE Silicone #2 safe they are not meant for aquarium or underwater applications, but is it true? 
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I've only used GE 1, so I can 100 percent vouch for it. Excellent topic.
So the "Mold Free" on 100% Silicone is like "Gluten-Free" water. Cool, great video.
Zero calorie water. Lol
Love all your videos/talks/rants/thought processes!
Very helpful. You speak very clearly. I really like the soothing tank and greenery in the background. THANK YOU very much!! USA
Great video! Thanks for clearing this up for me, very informative!
You cleared this up. I'm getting into terrarium and bio-active enclosures and since all are marketed so people don't worry about mold but i'm confident if used right, this is safe and good to go. Thanks!
Thank you!! About to seal my first 50g tank. I appreciate this.
Any updates?
Thanks for this I recently bought 2 tubes of the #1 from home depot..and it didn't have 7 years mold free on the lable... Couple days later bought 2 tubes from Lowe's..and it had 7 years mold free on it.. So I wasn't sure if it was safe... But I used it to build under water water fall... Tanks has been going couple weeks now..with fish and I've had no problems.. But I was crossing my fingers hoping not to kill the fish
So glad I found this I used some silicone #2 to make some tree vines in a vivarium and to add some cork bark in certain areas and kept hearing folks say to only use silicone 1 or silicone WITHOUT mold inhibitors and I’m like mannn I hope I don’t have to build this all over again 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ I feel a lot at ease now but still have another 2 weeks before I’m placing my frogs and anoles and long tails in the vivarium
You're good to go. There are no "mold inhibitors" in the silcone.
That waterfall tank is stunning!
Hmm. I’m currently re-sealing my big 65. May turn it into a waterfall tank!
Thx you for your Help
ths for the confirmation
Good Thoughts ! I have used GE 1 as its 100% Silicon.. Just be sure there aren't any other additives in the product.. There are several other brands that are safe for aquariums and black color. There are expensive, but safe aquarium silicon products sold at the LFS.
That's the confusing thing though because GE 1 says it's Mold Free now
I just finished covering a crack in the corner of a 10 gallon tank I found THEN read the tube...
GE Silicone #2. Because of this video I know to set it aside for a week or two, then use it.
The tank is going to hold Black Worms & some plants at a depth of 6" or so.
No worries, I can wait.
Also, MSDS is now SDS. Safety Data Sheet.
Thanks for the video!
Hi I also accidentally used GE2, I wanted to check in how things are going?
@@anna-xf5jk I eventually just broke the tank up & threw it away. I didn't trust it and it wasn't worth the time & effort to re seal the whole tank when I could buy one new from Petco for $10 on one of their sales.
@@jimquitshowingmyname962 man i just built over $400 enclosure with this stuff mannnn what the **** lol im dying inside
both silicone types work well just make sure you use rubbing alcohol before resealing a tank
Why ? Use rubbing alcohol
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It true. It killed one of my bettas. Story goes I had a tank leak. So I took him out and put him in an established tank while I resealed the tank. So I bought #2 and sealed it. A couple days later I set it back up and put him back in. He went straight to the bottom and laid there. I used the same water from the tank he was in for the past 2 days so he wouldn’t be shocked. Didn’t think anything of it so I left him in and the next morning he was at the surface gasping for air and looked really pale in color. So I took him out thinking something was wrong with the water and put him back in the established tank for 3 days and he bounced right back. So I washed the tank out real good with hot water. I don’t ever use chemicals to clean my tanks so I wasn’t sure why he reacted badly. Anyhow it was late so I set it up again and put him in and went to bed. Again with same water he was in for comfort. He was dead in the morning. Come to find out he was being poisoned by the silicone. This was a nano tank so maybe the poison was more concentrated than in a large tank. All I know is I’ll never use GE#2 again
It takes longer to cure
How long should it take for a large wad of silicone to actually fully cure? For example, if I create a large structure from inert expanding foam, carve the smooth layer off, then use a thick enough layer of silicone to attach cork bark/sand/dirt to it.
So, for relatively proper and common uses like that in our hobby where a relatively high amount of silicone is needed in 1 area, how long is safe for a full cure? I'm sure waiting a full month like I've seen someone say would be overkill levels of safe, but realistically, what's a good amount of time?
Can i use 1 or 2 to build my DIY Ollas? The ollas will be planted in the soil
Yes, just let it fully cure before using.
Right or wrong, I just want a tank like the one behind him....
Also, the hilarious thing to me is that both say "100% waterproof" on the front, but "not for submerged or aquarium use." on the back! OK, which is it?
Do you know the reason why they would have two products that are both 100% silicone but cure differently ? Is the acid created from a reaction or is it the carrier of the silicone that just evaporates off ?
I'm asking because I want to use this for mold making and I want a product that has the least chance of causing health problems from the fumes while mixing .even though the acid may be strong , is it more or less toxic while curing than number 2?
I don't think either one is much danger. Silicone 1 produces what's essentially vinegar, and number 2 produces a bit of ammonia. Marketing is the only reason I can think they do it different ways.
i need to use BLACK COLOR SILICONE that must be AQUARIUM SAFE... can black silicone be used ?
Sure. No problem.
This is really interesting! I heard that for GE2 it does have additives that make it mold free, hence not being animal safe. I'll have to look at the MSDS, I wonder why they smell different, not that the fumes are good either way but still curious
They cure differently. When #1 cures, it releases acetic acid (vinegar) and when #2 cures, it releases ammonia gas.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly if that's the case the ammonia is definitely worse for your health than the vinegar. Thanks for this video and for responding!!
Very informative video :) I have a question, is the silicone you use for pvc cages for snakes and other reptiles is it the same silicone you would use for aquariums for fishes? I have to apply silicone soon on new cage I will be getting to prevent water leaking on pvc cage so I want to get the right material that is needed. Thank you so much for taking your time to read :)
Silicone #1 or #2 is fine.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly so the rule to know if silicone is safe for animals is if it's 100% silicone and brand doesn't matter right? Does different silicone brands have different waiting times and if I do put the silicone do I have to bring the tank outside for odor to go away or can it stay inside? I'm asking these because soon I'll have to use silicone so I want to be safe :)
@@LPFSuleyman I'm not sure about other brands, but as long as it says 100% silicone, I'm sure it's safe.
You can use it indoors. It may smell a bit, but isn't going t harm you.
I use GE plastic and more plastic 100% silicone and it also reads it's for glass and all the materials and I use it in my saltwater aquarium and it looks better than the other GE
I would think when it “cures” the bad stuff has evaporated off yes? And you’re left with just a rubbery bead of silicone...I would think
Yes, it cures into 100% pure silicone.
1:24 and we all know that if you are telling the truth why these companies would put it on the label... They want to sell you "Aquarium Safe" Silicone for 3x the price!!!
Hello - I accidentally used GE silicone 2, 10 year mold resistant sealant to install some bulkheads in the floor of my aquarium. Is this also safe? Or should I be ripping them out?
PS: the silicone will be under the substrate, and it’s a good sized tank - roughly 110 gallons, if that makes a difference.
It'll be fine.
Beauties. Thanks!
What about the GE SUPREME SILICONE BATH AND KITCHEN? I only used it to glue small pieces of wood to my big driftwood?
I'm not personally familiar with it, but I'm sure it's ok once it's fully cured.
So how long does it take for ge 2 to fully cure ?
If it's just a small bead, like sealing the edge of a tank, I'd give it at least two days. The thicker you apply it, the longer you need to wait. I waited a couple of weeks before adding fish to my waterfall tank.
Im wanting to use it on a pvc watering station for squirrels and birds ! Without harming animals
It will be fine.
So would I be safe using GE silicone 2 for kitchen and bath?
Should be. It's just silicone.
Is it safe for reptiles i just finished s wooden enclosure i put so much work into it i was told it had to be 100% silicon then i just read tonight do not use ge #2 and i looked at my silicon and of course thats what i have used😿😿😿 ugh
You'll be fine. It's just silicone.
I just used #2 and prematurely put it in my tank, I only waited 24 hours. Just killed most my tank off,,,,, lesson learned
Yeah it’s because of the additives they use to prevent mold. It releases a toxin that kills life that’s y u should only use GE 1 :( sorry about ur fish
GE silicone II .
Word to the wise, look at the use before date on the tube. If it's past this date DO NOT USE IT, it will NEVER dry.
I'm not here for this fish... i bought the GE #2 im currently in the process of scraping it off because of the smell. I have a bearded dragon, and they're very sensitive to chemicals . So if the GE #2 heats up and releases a smell it could harm her. And i did a heat test and it smelled. So ... no for reptiles and okay for fish ? Help 🤦♀️
Once it cures, it's 100% pure silicone.
Can you please tell me for how much time we need to cure #2 and how you proceed with or without water ? I always used #1 after your video I try #2 let it cure 4 days without water transfer a 55 gallons full of fish in 2 20 gallons for breeding ! I lost all my fish in like 12 hours loll ....500$ of fish for that mistakes ..... and you still say that yes its safe ummmm don't doo that guys it cost me all my breeders that I was growing since a years ...
I let it cure about a week. It depends on how thick it is. #2 is safe for fish.
Its still called msds
That is brutal! Free Navalny! Free Navalny! Free Navalny!
So correct in what you say, Here in the UK i use a marine grade silicone which happens to be cheaper than your typical window stuff, but it does say it is okay to use in aquariums due to it being able to be used on boats for sealing. Companies are only covering their own ass .... full stop.
I shouldn't have listened to tyour advice. Made a small cave with lava washed lava rocks and GE silicone 2 . Maybe its because I don't have a heavily planted tank like you and it did not filter out the toxins. I used type 2 from GE and let it cure for over 24 hours. and 3 dempseys 2 convicts 2 plecos died withing 24 hours. Before that t the fish were fully energetic and active and eating normally. Thank goodness the fish were small so I did not lose a lot of money. only about 20 bucks.
A small bead needs 24 to 48 hours to cure. I don't know how you made your cave, but if the silicone was thick, it should have cured for a couple of weeks.
I have no first hand information about this but I found a post over on fishforums.net (user was raptorrex back in 2006) that says that curing times are based on a bead 1 cm wide by 1 cm deep and that any silicone deeper than that will not cure at all. If that is so, and again I do not know personally, then when making a cave - might you have gotten some big blobs going? I dunno - just tossing that out there. 1 cm is a pretty thick bead I'll grant so .....
What I’m learning from the comments is #1 is 100% safe and reliable. #2 is a risk and some have lost their fish even after days of drying. So use #1, NOT #2. Don’t risk it.
I just made the mistake of using some of this to repair my tank leak. I knew something was wrong immediately when I put the fish in (it had only been 24 hrs); took them back out and back to their temporary arrangements, then waited a week, just put them back in yesterday. There was no amonia before I put them in, within two hours the amonia had spiked and they were acting lethargic and hanging out at the top of the tank. I did a 50% water change, little improvement. Just moved them back into temporary quarters. . . Am I ever going to be able to use this tank, or do I need to scrape what I used off and start over? The fish are clearly indicating that something is wrong with the water in that tank even after one week
I've used Silicone 2 on one of my tanks because the store was out of 1-- made my water toxic and killed everything (even after curing for 7 days). So sad.
oof, RIP, don't give up, try again
GE 2 silicon is bad for the fish because it contains additives to prohibit mold growth and is toxic. However GE 1 is safe for use :D
Not true.
#2 is 100% silicon. Silicon by itself is mold mildew resistant to a certain extent. I have mostly used GE silicon #2 for aquariums because I generally want brown for permanently attaching slate tiles or 3D universal rocks backgrounds. All you have to do is let it cure properly then let it hold water, drain, full, & repeat several times & then let the tank properly cycle.
@@xKenn I let mine cure for over 1 week, then fill with water & let it sit a few days, do that twice, set it up, let it cycle then change water. Use a danio or something to check a few days before adding my fish. If any silicon gets wet while curing it will become a gooey mess & never cure properly.
But asi aquarium silicon can be purchased by the caulk tube on Amazon for the same as the other GE silicone. Their website says to cure 1 weeks for aquarium silicon as well. If you have any silicon that is behind say a background that isn't exposed that will take much longer.