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  • Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
  • In this episode Robert talks with Lauren Pamma about her introduction to EVs, the power of fleet electrification, the importance of building robust charging infrastructure, and her work with Government to improve and accelerate the electrification of transport.
    Lauren Pamma is a leading expert in renewable energy and sustainable finance, with over a decade of experience in the industry. She currently serves as the Director for the Decarbonisation of Road Transport. The Green Finance Institute is a UK-based organization with a focus on mobilizing private capital to address climate change and support a sustainable future.
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Комментарии • 97

  • @jcarey568
    @jcarey568 Год назад +11

    It's awesome that Robert has such an array of guests on his show. In particular, I appreciate the mix of enthusiasm and pragmatism that the people in green finance bring to the conversation. They look at where we want to be and how to realistically get there.

  • @cmw3737
    @cmw3737 Год назад +17

    Any business that you are going to park for at least half an hour should have a destination charger. It should be like WiFi, something that's expected if you're going to spend your money there.

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 Год назад +12

    Such a relief that the UK is not following Germany and pushing the transition date back to 2035. As always really useful information presented in an entertaining way. Thanks.

  • @troyswan7123
    @troyswan7123 Год назад +18

    It’s fantastic how much differing area of society are getting behind this issue and maybe we have a chance

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 Год назад

      I want to believe you but from day to day I hear screaming paid liars and see their toxic content. For instance, in the Daily Telegraph (they're worst, but there's many others) I read that heat pumps don't work, that wind energy is twice as expensive as gas/coal/oil, that Net Zero is a woke socialist plot to put up the heating bills of little old pensioners etc.

  • @kerilloyd7504
    @kerilloyd7504 Год назад +1

    What a great podcast. It’s always encouraging and heartening to hear from the industry and what’s happening behind the scenes to enable us to move to EVs. There’s so much negativity right now (for good reason) and a lot of horrible rumours and negative press so this podcast full of has really cheered me up. Thank you Bob and Lauren, there’s a place for you in heaven (if you believe in that sort of thing).

  • @TomTom-cm2oq
    @TomTom-cm2oq Год назад +1

    Full props for staying ad free!

  • @renedalmeijer8260
    @renedalmeijer8260 Год назад +9

    Having chargers at campings would be a good thing too even in Norway this is scarce. It would definitely facilitate EV touring. They don't have to be fast chargers 22kW would be good enough. Properly fused 220V wall plugs would already help a lot. It would definitely decide my choice for a camp site.

    • @MikeGleesonazelectrics
      @MikeGleesonazelectrics Год назад

      I have often used the 16A electric hook ups, overnight, used for touring vans. If you ask in advance the site manager will either say yes or no, sometimes needing an extra fee, sometimes not but it is a far simpler operation. A low level charge overnight will give you about 20 kWh so enought o cover your local travelling maybe, instead of having to rely on rapd chargers. This is in the SW of england, devon and cornwall. Some are beginning to install slow chargers..

  • @ncammann
    @ncammann Год назад +3

    Come on Robert. You got all chummy with the owner of Gridserve a while back.
    Can you get him and this lady in the same room and have a full conversation. That would be really interesting.

  • @chlistens7742
    @chlistens7742 Год назад +3

    I love your show and this was definitely an interesting topic
    I was wondering if you could do a show for people who have issues like me?
    I am disabled and limited income so I currently have enough backup power just for needed medical devices i have a small 4 year old Renogy 72000mAh and it is enough to run all my medical devices for 3 days plus phones and portable so if an outage lasts longer i can go somewhere to charge it.
    I love all the fully charged shows and such but being i am limited budget i was wondering if there could be a few shows directed for those of us who medical and disabilities limit what they are able to buy and use (and this includes vehicles being i need a power chair with me if i travel)
    go Scrapheap Challenge and Red Dwarf and keep making these interesting podcasts

  • @recumbentrocks2929
    @recumbentrocks2929 Год назад +3

    You were right Bobby, that was more interesting than I thought it would be.

  • @dogbreath6974
    @dogbreath6974 Год назад +1

    Not boring at all Robert, really enjoyed this, the 55 mins flew by. Thanks.

  • @jk5245
    @jk5245 Год назад +6

    Hi I am a taxi driver and drive a electric car since July 2020 I have driven 120000. Miles +

    • @walterkaiyuenpang3556
      @walterkaiyuenpang3556 Год назад

      What vehicle ?
      What about battery warranty and future option to change the battery ? How much will a new battery & install cost ?

    • @jk5245
      @jk5245 Год назад +1

      Kia e niro and battery is still giving 280 miles because I always charge with my home charger.

    • @walterkaiyuenpang3556
      @walterkaiyuenpang3556 Год назад

      @@jk5245 👍👍👍

  • @mikemellor759
    @mikemellor759 Год назад +1

    A good example of the wide range of topics Robert covers on this podcast👏👏

  • @jonevansauthor
    @jonevansauthor Год назад +2

    The UK government can pay for charging infrastructure. Councils own lots of car parks. Chargers should be in car parks. Chargers can make profit. Charging can pay for car parks, or at least offset the charge. In the future, while there'll be fewer cars on the road, it will become habitual to charge while out at the shops. Since the car park should be covered in solar panels, and that's cheap to do, the whole thing can be a profit engine for a council. That would be a big deal for parish councils whose budgets aren't exactly massive.
    People seem surprised why Tesla is opening up charging. It's because it'll make them money, more than anyone else since they own the supply chain and build their own chargers and are more efficient than everyone else at manufacturing everything. They'll become the worldwide biggest charging network and it furthers their mission.

  • @laurastone5805
    @laurastone5805 Год назад +28

    >>With the current economic crisis What's the best way to make money from crypto investing?

    • @robertbrown3837
      @robertbrown3837 Год назад

      I can't believe how much our lives have changed since meeting Marcel Benjamin Cooper. He's helped us become debt-free and save for retirement." I made over 220K during this dip, which made it clear there's more to the market than we average joes know. Having an investment adviser is currently the best course of action, especially for those who are close to retirement .....

  • @norbertklein3477
    @norbertklein3477 Год назад +2

    Great podcast. I am wondering whether there is any standardized method to assess battery SOH of used EVs and whether businesses like authorized garages exist who offer brand independent SOH assessment according to a standardized protocol. Such a certificate may boost sales of used EVs, which is of increasing importance for a faster transition.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +6

    A big battery in a shipping container with a rapid charger would be a handy adjunct to any small business.
    The big battery could be a trickle demand on the local grid without fattening the local grid.
    The battery would be an accumulator.

    • @Hitstirrer
      @Hitstirrer Год назад +3

      This would also be an obvious quick fix in situations where the glacial speed of Grid upgrades is the problem. Also in rural areas where such an upgrade would be prohibitively expensive. Being portable they can be moved to another pinch point once the Grid has got its act together.

    • @stephenbrickwood1602
      @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +2

      @@Hitstirrer yes.
      I was thinking that if you went for a country drive and a small business on the side of the road could give you a big rapid charge, and then slowly refill off the small local grid without blowing the fuses, Hahaha.
      Or a few solar PV panels in the nearby field could help top up the battery in the container.
      Something like that.

    • @Hitstirrer
      @Hitstirrer Год назад +3

      @@stephenbrickwood1602 - Well guess what. Such a container with batteries and car charging for rural areas already exists. ruclips.net/video/HTCyjm6TSOU/видео.html

    • @stephenbrickwood1602
      @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +1

      @Hitstirrer they stole everything I have been saying for the past year.
      Hahaha Hahaha 😆.
      True.!
      It is good to see that they are doing it.
      They have solved all the problems that idiots keep ignoring.
      I got interested in EV because my old Civil Engineer construction friend has a masters in nuclear energy and is lost in the technology.
      Nuclear industries in every country to stop climate destabilisation, FMD, and military defence budgets will explode.
      Batteries and Renewables are the killer technologies.
      These people have the right answer as we transition to full Renewables.

    • @TroggyPB
      @TroggyPB Год назад +1

      @@Hitstirrer Thank you for the link to Bjôrn Nyland’s video on the container system. Brilliant manifestation of the energy storage capability to be rolled out quickly to plug the public infrastructure gap and so similar to the long discussed concept that many of us could have in UK houses to eliminate local grid jeopardy.

  • @andrewsaint6581
    @andrewsaint6581 Год назад

    Going to Fully Charged Live Farnborough on Friday listening to this having missed the IONITY Chargers at Newport Pagnell and mistakenly drawn towards the huge Tesla site thinking they'll be nearby.
    🤦
    Anyway Osprey 75kW to the rescue (previously sussed out as nearby) in Swan Inn car park.
    See you later Robert.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +3

    Love this video.
    Love your work.

  • @wiegeroord9822
    @wiegeroord9822 Год назад +3

    What Lauren said "If you build it they will come" made my laugh but is very true. Which is something which should be heard by all companies but mainly the government. I live in Ireland and it is way worse here.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +6

    A community big battery with EV charging in every suburb would be a good start.
    Take the battery away to a windfarm when each suburb is self-sufficient.
    Or take it to a needy start-up suburb.

  • @alanhold2468
    @alanhold2468 Год назад +1

    Great interview🙏👊

  • @RyanEmmett
    @RyanEmmett Год назад +1

    Interesting chat, thanks.

  • @tomcockcroft9394
    @tomcockcroft9394 Год назад +5

    We only need 10% of the ev rapid charges as we do petrol stations

    • @lua-nya
      @lua-nya Год назад +1

      And way more destination charge points.

  • @grahamcompton9400
    @grahamcompton9400 Год назад +1

    Is the issue with National Grid just bureaucracy or is it additional infrastructure to add solar without impacting the network?
    Can NG answer a question like "where are the top ten easiest connection points to the existing grid for a new solar farm"?

  • @ChrisEsther
    @ChrisEsther Год назад +2

    Great convo. Love the cultural refernce to Yazz.

  • @frejaresund3770
    @frejaresund3770 Год назад

    I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.

  • @ianm42yt
    @ianm42yt Год назад +1

    I have been driving an electric car for the last 4 and a half years, and I love it. I also now have solar panels that lower my cost of recharging it. I will recommend going electric to anyone that wants to hear. However, I have one concern that I have not seen discussed anywhere. Currently, the UK government make a huge income from fuel duty. As electric car takeup increases, this income will surely decrease. What might the government do to make up the shortfall?

    • @yips_way
      @yips_way Год назад +1

      They are already discussing charge per mile I believe - so that is one way they are thinking about making up the shortfall. I don't mind per mile charging, as long as they remove the yearly vehicle tax and/or fuel duty where applicable but I doubt they will, it'll probably be in addition too!. I have no idea how they would police it, especially if they apply it to older vehicles too.

  • @martinhammett8121
    @martinhammett8121 Год назад +4

    All employer car parks should have chargers in , where possible be run off solar !

    • @martinhammett8121
      @martinhammett8121 Год назад

      All cost claimable against their tax !

    • @PedalPowerPanther
      @PedalPowerPanther Год назад

      I agree. We have a massive warehouse which could hold well over 2,000 solar panels. The only problem is that my company, like most, lease rather than own. A massive push, subsidised by government grants for businesses and letting agents to install solar/batteries, would solve so many of our energy problems.

  • @renedalmeijer8260
    @renedalmeijer8260 Год назад +1

    Traceability of resources used for a BEV would be a great thing. Would also be a nice thing to have at public charging stations. Obviously missing is the same thing for ICE I expect we will never get that.

  • @motchmanjames9347
    @motchmanjames9347 Год назад +1

    I have an EV and 95% of my charging is done at the destination and find having to use a rapid charger inconvenient having to go back to move the car so someone else can use. We need destination chargers in every car park and loads of kerb side one's as well.

  • @alanhat5252
    @alanhat5252 Год назад

    17:50 I'm surprised to hear you mention _sodium ion_ & suggest it's not commercially viable when there's sources telling us it's in commercial production right now.

    • @laurenp2731
      @laurenp2731 Год назад

      There was an announcement about a week after recording, and before this came out!

  • @WilliamOwyong
    @WilliamOwyong Год назад

    Great discussion!
    Even with improved longevity of the EV batteries, making them swappable, along with an industry wide ISO standards for battery connectors and dimensions means the EV can last longer than the battery. Fixed batteries means the idea of an EV "classic car" is difficult.

    • @martinhammett8121
      @martinhammett8121 Год назад +3

      you can replace a battery in a leaf !

    • @Simon-dm8zv
      @Simon-dm8zv Год назад +2

      Except that current batteries already outlive the rest of the vehicle.

  • @ericvet8b
    @ericvet8b Год назад +2

    Great for the UK to stick to 2030…, for now.
    And I think the battery passport/QR code thing is great idea.
    And love the Battery health certificate thing!!! Would help a lot of people!!!

  • @awo1fman
    @awo1fman Год назад +2

    My experience with destination chargers is quite different from what you describe. It tends to follow the same pattern as DC chargers. The Tesla branded ones nearly always work, but the other brands are all too often nonfunctional. And when they are broken, it's often for weeks. On rare occasions they are serviced in only a week.

  • @jonb5493
    @jonb5493 Год назад

    (Indirectly alluded to elsewhere, but to directly address) Lauren concentrates on EV battery tec here, her main gig. I'd like to hear what these gov-org-ish sort of think-tanks are doing about home battery-inverter systems to leverage off-peak electricity. What I haven't seen is a suite of templates to be followed by vendors/installers that would be "kosherized" or "standardised", and then promoted to all players - that includes home insurance vendors, electricity suppliers and others. Gripe: UK govt offers me 5000 quid toward a heat-pump installation, which is a marginally effective energy-efficiency play. But they offer nothing toward a home battery-inverter system which would not only be far more cost-effective but also "does the right thing" vv the national grid, the environment, and UK Plc. Also the electricity vendors/sales-people treat me like chopped liver when I contact them to ask for quotes, like "prove to us you own a regd EV and we'll sell you off-peak electric, else we don't want your biz". The insurance companies say uh dunno why you do this craziness.
    ?

  • @alanhat5252
    @alanhat5252 Год назад

    49:25 why Diesel?
    Because it's safer, cleaner & more economical than petrol & because the agricultural-vehicle market only has a couple of battery models available, none of which are suitable for occasionally nipping into town.

  • @alanhat5252
    @alanhat5252 Год назад

    around 34:00 -ish
    Can Google & Apple help with this? They're tracking pretty much every smartphone's location & they have the location of most charge points...

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 Год назад

    Beautiful

  • @davidwischer3684
    @davidwischer3684 Год назад

    Heading should have Tsunami instead of Tidal as the latter is very small compared to the former.

  • @cjonesplay1
    @cjonesplay1 Год назад +1

    Even if you Don’t care about the Environment. You have to admit. That driving an EV is more convenient, easier, funnier to drive , and more affordable.

  • @stephen300o6
    @stephen300o6 Год назад +3

    And folks are still waving their betamax tapes in the air, denouncing VHS.

  • @dk7863
    @dk7863 Год назад

    lithium Sulfur, Thanks Robert for all you do.👍

  • @yips_way
    @yips_way Год назад

    Interesting comment about Government not having to pay for the c£50Bn EV charging infrastructure requirement as they don't build Petrol Stations - well, maybe they should as they take the biggest amount of Petrol Station revenue by far - in fuel duty, along with other taxes. I'm going to make an educated guess that this will also be the case with EV chargers in time, when they look to claw back the lost tax from fuel. Depends if their repeated (and usually failed) push for "pay per mile" finally comes to fruition.

  • @jonb5493
    @jonb5493 Год назад

    Another query for anyone out there. On the one hand, I hear very encouraging murmurings from abroad about govs and their consultants/experts leaning toward regulating ease of battery replacement in EVs, so that obviously if I buy one tomorrow, and hugely better battery tec arrives in 3 years, I can upgrade my car rather than throw it away and buy another. Likewise it would be beneficial for someone right now selling his EV with a tiny 2016-era battery, because his buyer could pay a reasonable amount and immediately upgrade the battery. Basically, this prevents cars being thrown away long before they are worthless. Against this, appears to be first of all Elon, who wants to ensure that the battery is an inseparable part of the frame, for his own commercial interests. Elon is influential and other manufacturers are following suit.
    Anyone know of developments in Europe and U.S. in this area?

    • @David_Polak
      @David_Polak Год назад

      No one is throwing away EV's because of old battery technology. Just like people don't through away ICE cars when something better comes along. Batteries outlast the rest of the car, so no reason to get rid of them. They will get recycled once the rest of the car has broken down.

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 Год назад

      @@David_Polak But that's not the whole problem. Say I buy an MG4-ER for 29.5K GBP tomorrow, with a stated range of 250 miles (i.e., 150 mile minimum in cold weather, driving hard). In 4 years, there will be batteries twice as good and considerably cheaper. But I am stuck with what the car came with. In my case this is precisely why I am not buying the MG right now. I'm sure many others feel the same.

    • @David_Polak
      @David_Polak Год назад

      @@jonb5493 But isn't that the case with every car? That you will be stuck with something old because a new model has innovations? I'm stuck with my car which has worse suspensation, worse headlights and no ventilated seats compared to the car that just was released. Cars are normally never modular, as you see with ICE cars. That's the case with all components. An exception would be battery swapping EV's like the ones from NIO. Would that be an option for you if you could afford it? Lastly, don't expect batteries to change that fast within four years. More like 8 years, and then they won't be cheap because they are the latest innovation. So in my opinion you can buy that MG and enjoy it for many years without feeling left behind in battery tech.

  • @jonb5493
    @jonb5493 Год назад

    I'm surprised that Lauren says EV prices - especially used - are cheaper at the moment; I've been looking and I've seen no attractive used ones. I wouldn't mind a lower-end cheap-n-cheerful to be a stopgap car for a couple years.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад

    Geoff Buys Cars
    is one of them funny guys but that's his opinion 😀

  • @highlanderapparel
    @highlanderapparel Год назад

    Checking in from Toledo ohio, we have 2 oil refinies, and 2 Teslas, if i win my lawsuit,we will have 3 Teslas. Rember, kindness is free

  • @raidengl
    @raidengl Год назад +1

    And then there's the good ole USA. like the congress people in Wyoming trying to pass a law, making it illegal to sell electric cars in the state.

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 Год назад

      .. and many other insane developments with U.S. Pols. Elon Musk wants to pursue his tizzy against Biden by cozying up to De Santis, and to move his factories to Texas to spite Newsom. Maybe his rocket-scientist employees could tell him that Tx + Fla Republicans want Tesla to disappear, and are on the payroll of fire-breathing swivel-eyed loony oil extraction fanatics.

  • @usaverageguy
    @usaverageguy Год назад

    😂😂😂 It is great that finance schemes are being developed based on charger usage. But they must include a clause requiring the charger be accessible and operational. Otherwise they will be built. Then never activated.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад

    I see EVs in Bradford

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад

    I watch EVM on RUclips an He has an EV

  • @chrisfairbrother4077
    @chrisfairbrother4077 Год назад

    After today’s announcement from JLR you might need to tone down some of your anti JLR rhetoric. Sounds like they are going to try and become an EV only company over the next 5 years and better still they pan on doing it by investing £15B in uk facilities including a battery and motor factory.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад +1

    The Government don't care

  • @kylerobinson7572
    @kylerobinson7572 Год назад

    It would be seriously beneficial to mankind and the world if we could get the Aptera vehicle into production. They primarily are lacking financing at this time. I think it would be a phenomenal investment for investors, as well as each of us on the receiving end!! :-)

  • @davidfellowes1628
    @davidfellowes1628 Год назад

    Planning is a dead weight on developments

  • @averymeiznerTheNewHomeGuyABQ
    @averymeiznerTheNewHomeGuyABQ Год назад

    Who is gonna own the electric motorbike industry so that you will never hear that noise again?

  • @williamarmstrong7199
    @williamarmstrong7199 Год назад +1

    Unfortunatly switching to EV's requires learning something new and engaging a brain cell or two. How many people run out of fossil juice each week? Nothing can help them. So it will cause some issues unfortunatly.

  • @martinhammett8121
    @martinhammett8121 Год назад

    Quite depressing, almost all the stuff talked about was, yeah theres a fund for that, yeah the Gov have a policy for that , yeah the gov are promising to support that !

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 Год назад

      Hmm I'd say the Govt has too few rather than too many policies. Same for funds. And worse, some of the policies and funding programs that they do have are just plain wrong, or at least, far less effective than alternative measures. Some examples.. many years ago they offered subsidies for home roof PV panel installation. At that time, this made no economic sense. Now, they offer 5000 GBP to install heat-pump in an existing old home, but do not force the builders to put heat-pumps in new buildings. It would make more sense not to offer the money for old homes, but force builders to do the right thing. In both these cases, a better use of funds would be upgrade to national grid.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Год назад +2

    As I have said before
    The home robotic vacuum cleaner can teach the selfparking EV to connect to the grid.
    Most vehicles are parked 23hrs a day.
    Trickle top-up daily charging will be universal on the existing national electric grid will be the go.
    Rapid charging will be at corner shops and on the main roads.
    Topping up every 10days will be a vague memory.
    All buildings are connected to the existing national grid.
    Most vehicles drive from a building to a building, so auto plug in universally and trickle charging and trading electricity for money means the profits will be in the grid ownership.
    Your vehicle can supply the grid, and your home can take from the grid, and the smarts can pay or invoice you.
    Most daily drives are 7kwh, and EV batteries are huge 100kwh.
    Stop getting bogged down with Rapid charging crap.
    Everybody sleeps and sits at their desk for hours.
    Stop talking like the horse and cart people.
    Horse meat was available everywhere when the T model Ford rolled of the production line.
    Everything changed.
    Yes big car parks will be money making machines trading electricity with the grid for grid stability and profit.
    Every building with fooftop solar pv panels will need every EV plugged in

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад +1

    Good looking lady

  • @goingoutotheparty1
    @goingoutotheparty1 Год назад +1

    This is very car-centric, cars are not part of a zero emissions future. Greenwash

    • @recumbentrocks2929
      @recumbentrocks2929 Год назад +1

      We know this but it has to start somewhere.Making Lorries and busses electric is the next step.

    • @Nikoo033
      @Nikoo033 Год назад

      @@recumbentrocks2929 the Aussies are showing us the way regarding EV large trucks. See recent fully charged episode .

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 Год назад +1

      I mentioned this elsewhere. It's not greenwash, but I think Lauren's main gig is EVs and she didn't address grid-scale fixed storage or home microgrids etc. I noticed she was dismissive about Sodium-Ion tec in the UK, which is a very vehicle-centric view. The UK already has Na-ion tec ready for grid-scale deployment, about which she said nothing, apart from one sentence alluding to the new Ozzie buyers of Britishvolt being interested in fixed grid-scale.

  • @lhorthy
    @lhorthy Год назад

    Bob, you lied. Most boring...

  • @gretco1
    @gretco1 Год назад +1

    Go Tesla woohoo 😎😼🌎🌍🎉👽🙌 Musk-eteer, Elon Musk for King before before a war, United States or or or or or don't you agree Elon Musk for King

    • @petesmitt
      @petesmitt Год назад

      taper off those drugs buddy..

    • @williamarmstrong7199
      @williamarmstrong7199 Год назад

      Musk is as crasy as Trump. However he has a brain not a rotting sprout like trunp. His ideas on free speach ( free lies without responsibility for anything anyone says, no matter how racist / insane ) shows how basically nieave / stupid / blind to reality Musk actually is.

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад

      Not King. Tyrant! Emperor! Dictator! First Inquisitor of the church of Muskanity! Kings are too weak. DEATH TO FOSSIL!

    • @garryellis3085
      @garryellis3085 Год назад +2

      No way the guy is a crazy libertarian

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад

    I'm here so what do you think about the kids having drag queen men at school I diss agree