Ryzen 7 7800X3D on an A620 Motherboard, Can you save HUNDREDS over the X670E?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2023
- Wanting to save a few bucks? Been consider an A620M? Well in today's video we test out the cheapest option from ASRock, and... pair it with the best gaming CPU out there right now, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D...
With the board cost coming in at $95... there isn't a whole lot to not like here, especially if you want to tune some interesting settings (like the idle power behavior).
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There are two versions of this so careful when shopping.
A620M-HDV/M.2 - 90-MXBLL0-A0UAYZ - Really barebones, has less IO on the back and no VRM heatsink. Should be avoided IMO.
A620M-HDV/M.2+ - 90-MXBLK0-A0UAYZ - The one with the Plus (+) at the end, shown in this video. It is a decent board, but very close in price to the very good B650M-HDV/M.2 - Better in every way for ~30 USD or 35-40 Euro more. We are getting just the savings from the chipset, but just that, the board as a whole is a lot worse as well. Practically no benefit to the buyer.
Depending on the country the difference can be like 75-90 usd more. And usually money itself is harder to get in such countries.
B650 version is just nowhere to be found in my contry
As one of my favorite youtubers, I must say I was starting to worry about you! Very happy to see a new video and know that you are well and doing fine. Please keep up the great work and thank you for the wonderful content!
Even Hardware Unboxed did a big review of the B650 motherboards and found that the Asrock models were doing better than ASUS! Good to see this one doing the same.
I wouldn't buy ASrock just for their illegal warranty policies.
Hey, what u mean? How asrock is doing better?
You deserved that break mate!. Good video this one. Shows that the A620 board are rather decent despite the cutdown features that most people would not really miss. Thank You.
I, the community is so happy with guys like you and framechasers. Honest and great reviews about products. Thanks for that, keep UP the good work 💪
A320 was great, could pick them up for £10-15. Bios update, 3100-3700x dropped in with 2 x 8 or 16gb sticks and lock in XMP with optimised timings. Add a 970 Evo Plus and you were only a couple % points off way more expensive boards.
Like the A520I boards too.
but a 5000 series ryzen is a must.. you can have from 0% to +100% more FPS because cache is shared between all cores on Zen 3... a 5600 will do...
correct since from 3000-7000 its no longer about more voltage more performance on OC but now its less voltage less temperature more performance basically a voltage offset overclock... But if the system is running 20-24/7 under heavy load that will degrade MOBO vrm until MOBO malfunction later on.. so A-chip TBH fine for r5 100% and for r7 you need a good case airflow might will limit PBO manual setting when you remove power & temp limits which force CPU run harder on heavy load to maintain higher frequency than default which put stress more on VRMs so this is only fine for CPU voltage offset OC not with PBO manual from r5-r7 and not for 105w cpu like r9 and x3D cpus PBO manual cause issue due to higher power that will put more stress on this chipset and this in the video have a decent heatsink but most A-chipset have no heatsink so for those A chipset a 105TDP is a big NO and will only be fine upto r5 TBH.
@@gamertechlive1780an a620 with moded vrm heatsink is always better than the most expensive x670, 10 phases power can push 500A (200A @40%) which means more than enough for a non oc r9 7950x
@@InternetListenerNo, it’s not a must. Good luck getting a combo with ryzen 5000 for less than $100. In fact, might as well get ryzen 7000 or intel 12th
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To even out you demonetized video a little bit i am going to watch three older videos now…
Thanks, Had been wondering about this for 6c/8c combos.
Thanks for this well done review and comparison of the different chipset based motherboards.
Been waiting for this 🙌
Glad to see you're back! was getting worried. 😌
Was wondering where you went. Glad to see you back! Enjoyed the Compudex coverage. Don't know why they demonitized you. I didn't see any reason or difference from all the other build vids you've done.Hope they clarify this soon for you.
Great video, what a great way to start the weekend. !Cheers
Long awaited video lesgo!
I always love these type of videos.
Thank you for this video! I love your value ideas!!
man, the motherboard prices have increased so much over the years. i paid 160 EUR for a pretty alright X370 board in 2017. with AM5, 160 EUR won't even get you a decent B650 board
Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 is a great borad for 160 euros
to be fair, the mid range boards now have similar features as the higher end boards from that time.
Intel has much better prices for both motherboards and cpu's. Turning your back on intel was fashionable in 2017, but these days it is expensive to be against intel.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior no they don't. it seems you haven't looked at the prices recently. AMD CPU prices have adjusted a lot and good AM5 mobos are at the same level as Intel mobos. the 7700x is cheaper or the similarly priced compared to the 13600k in many regions (including where i live).
for reference the 7700x is faster in games (using cheaper RAM) and trades blows in productivity (generally a bit slower). current newegg prices: both are 320$
@@prosecanlik4296 do you think Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 could handle ryzen 7 7800x3d?
Got an Asrock b650e steel legend :) beautiful board. This was my first time switching from asus motherboards and im very impressed with performance on 7800x3d
The fact that Asrock prodution come from my country Vietnam ( As in the video you guys seeing ) make me so proud now ! I love Asrock so much 💯❤
Looking forward to your benchmarking of the incoming Path of Exile 2!
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Great Video; would love to see a comparison of how it performs with the amd stock coolers; for an extreme budget (or backup) set up. I've used mine with an amd spire (the one with copper core) and its worked great; I set a tj max of 85 to have a bit of a buffer. The only issue i've come across is in The Last of Us; it seems to disregard the tj max temp limit and just keeps climbing until PC shuts down. This is on title screen while building shaders. Once in game, the spire does great, keeping temps in high 60s to low 70s.
Very interesting! So it seems this informs me that a cheap B650m Pro RS is a good pick for my 7700-7900XTX combo!
thanks so much for covering that idle power my 7900x idles at 50 wattssss 😆😆😬
Hi,
Great video as always.
I have the asrock steel legend b650e, I do not see the setting for soc/uncore oc mode in the bios anywhere. Is there an equivalent setting on this board or another way to achieve what this setting achieved?
I think with current procing ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 is worth extra spending.
Looking good, even when cutting it close, assuming that you can also get MOSFET temp readings under the heatsinks.
When buying a motherboard I tend to pay attention to the M.2 slots, USB 3.2 Gen2 ports and PCIe slots. I use ATX sized boards as MATX compromises my requirements. As such, I tend to avoid the lowest end chipsets as the I/O is so cut down for my needs.
Do you think that anti bend bracket for the AM5 CPU would help in the heat as it is confirmed that helps on the LGA 1700?
What do you do with your PC and what is your budget "should be" a buyers criteria when shopping for components. I require Thunderbolt support, so budget wise, that eliminated AM5 where USB 4.0 (sort of Thunderbolt) starts at $500. I also tried W11, bleh, so Intel 13th gen and or DDR5 is out. Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 does support Thunderbolt 3.0 which meets my needs and paired with a 5800X is actually overkill for the one game I currently play, Guild Wars 2. I do appreciate seeing you show case component combinations where requirements such as Thunderbolt or USB 4.0 are not needed.
Perhaps you should list the specific motherboard model? Asrock has two A620 in Denmark, the ASRock A620M-HDV and the Asrock A620M PRO RS. The first is the cheapest, but has no cooling on the VRMs, the latter looks really decent actually, but is only 30 Euro less than B650 boards, but might still be worth it.
edit: It seems the A620-HDV/M.2+ is the one with VRMs, that's 10Euro extra. The placement of the second M.2 is also different. Buyers be aware to get the version you need.
Late reply but did what about the Asrock A620M Pro RS with the 7800X3D? Would make sense to pair those together.
What a comparison
Thanks man
I was using a 7800X3D on an A620M board from MSI till about a week ago when I switched it for an X670E (or 30L9X as I always seem to read the blocky model number upside down) AsRock steel legend board I was able to snag for 1/2 the regular retail price. Not so much for any potential performance bump, but all those extra features like 2x the AM slots, 2.5gig LAN, 20Gb USB etc etc. Even just having the VRMs cooled with some nice chunky heatsinks and 4x NVMe slots have made the upgrade absolutely perfect for me, and that I'll have a very easy upgrade to next years Ryzen processors too.
The forgotten asrock from hardware unboxed review is the absolute most important for the 130 bucks to 139 bucks and this is the one I'm using Asrock b650M PRO RS. It is an amazing board to say the least for the price.
Liked before watching, cos I like the idea of this video.
How do you set a thermal limit in the bios? Sounds good.
Did he check for stability on the boards ram speed? Check the event logs? This takes weeks. Hopefully he can tell us how long a ran the system or if he just booted into windows and called it 6700mhz
This generation's ASRock AM5 HDV motherboard is insane, in the past HDV = basic, but this time it represent great value
just gotta be careful with what tdp your cpu has with those, some of asrocks hdv a620 boards are only rated for 65w (!) CPUs and 120w CPUs, as listed on their website.. so no 7900x or 7950x in those boards haha
True that. You can see the latest B650 roundup Asrock did a great job.
Can i undervolt my cpu with any a620 mothermoard and if i can can i do as b650 do. Is Ryzen master works with a620 motherboards. For example system with r5 7600 and rtx 4070, what would you recommend for motherboard and why. I am gone use it mostly for gaming. I want to use it as long as possibile(around 5-8 years).
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Love it! Takes a holiday to play a game
A620M-HDV/M.2+ will work properly with 7800x3d games and da Vinci resolve ?
Anyone can tell me why pcpartpicker is cutting out most a620 boards from compatibility list on Ryzen 7800x3d?
I'm rather new to pc builds and I keep finding people that say those board are compatible (and way cheaper). I'm on a very tight budget since I had some trouble with component shipping.
Any info would be a lifesaver, thanks!
I just got a windows 10 key using the link and your code, what I'm saying is thank you!! :D
I always like these Vid's... I'm waiting on Zen 5 myself though. I am still Good with a 5900X at 4K with a 6800XT for now.. GPU's that need that kind of CPU cost way to much anyway.. Honestly I'd keep my 5900X and upgrade my GPU first..
Any difference in Clock speeds? A620 vs X670 will it hit the 5000mhz max?
can you make a tutorial about the tweaking that you did in bios? thankyou
D4 is the first game that I haven't been able to stop playing in years. Easily one of the best money to time investments I've had in a ling while lol. I don't get into ARPG's
it is safe using entry chipset motherboard with high end cpu?
Good video topic ❤
I solely watched this video because I am trying to build a very budget oriented AM5 build and let me tell you, I am a very stingy person, and I can't sell anything that works perfectly fine. So if I ever decide to upgrade my Ryzen 5 7600 to a 7800X3D (or 8800X3D, 9800X3D??), I can do that while not blowing up my PC.
So would you go with the a620?
@@pedraaaa yes
Будет ли материнская плата на а620 чипсете ограничивать потребление, например r7 7700, до какого-то лимита (90-100 Ватт)?
I'm still using an A320. Haven't had any issues with my 5600 and 32 gugs of 3200MHz RAM.
Why would you want to go to 6400 MHz if the Ryzen performs bets at 6000 cl 30?
The thing with 7800X3D is that it isn't really OC-able, thus performance between the 2 chipsets are close. If you use non X3D CPU and enable PBO on the higher end chipset, the difference will be bigger. Right now the result is basically the same because the CPU is simply running according to spec. This also means that if you cheap out and buy non X CPU (like 7700 instead of 7700X) and hoping to get close to X CPU performance, then you probably won't get that with A620, thus if you care about performance and on the budget, you want to pair A620 with X CPU. With B650, you can get away using non X CPU. Having said that, currently X vs non X pricing is very close that you might as well buy the X version since it is likely that the X version have better silicon.
Anyway, the main issue with A620 is that most are giving it shitty VRM and I imagine if it equipped with better VRM, the pricing would be close to B650 and the majority of B650, even the cheap one, have good enough VRM (there are bad ones of course like in the recent HUB B650 comparison) for even the most power hungry Ryzen 7000 CPU.
my b650 from asrock allowed me to overclock the 7800x3d. I just did a small bump but it did add to the frequency.
Which board exactly you have, please, because I'm planning to upgrade soon my AM4 PC?@@Nicc93
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What is highest cpu can pair with this motherboard
Turning around that VRM cooler will also help when using normal tower cooler turning side with larger dissipation area toward airflow.
But for me a620 is more something to pair with 7600 or any other 65W part. Most people who shop in that price range would never use any of 650/670 features anyway.
As mentioned, a decent top-down blowing cooler does those little budget boards the world of good... keeping the VRMs a bit cooler.
Or a vrm heatsink
@@francisportugal5584 There's funny video around, someone ramping up a 5950X to 5+ GHz on a A320 board... keeping it all at bay with just a Wraith Prism cooler. ;)
Thanks for your is so clear that bes MB for your AM5 combo with RAM and CPU and GPU is a AM4 Ryzen 5600-...-5800x3d plus ddr4 3600 cl16 + RX 6700 to 6800 (or used RX 5600XT/5700/5700XT) in a B550 (for PCIe 4.0 gpu if needed) or a A320 to A520 if you can game with PCIe x16 3.0. This way can you save even more HUNDREDs over the X670E? And wait for AMD to deliver for CPU with a real step forward in technology...
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Gr8 video !
I'm waiting for Gigabyte's A620I AX itx board, which comes with 2.5GbE port to arrive.
Do you also play Path of Exile? What is your opinion on the upcoming Path of Exile 2?
Cool, i might look into a620 + 6/8 core 8*** cpus when they come out as a replacement for my b550 + 5600. But 7***, i will sit out for sure
I have been thinking the same thing.
I'm planning on the upgrading lowest budget AM5 with r5 7600 and Biostar A620MP-E Pro and with ripjaw 6000mhz
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Hi, is that budget a620m asrock board and 7500f a good combo? Could you make a video about those 2 combo. And a budget gpu ofc (rx6600 or 6650xt). Thanks in advance.
Yes you have you have budget cpu it doesn’t overheat
Some people claim it is the iGPU that is responsible for the idle power usage and they solved it by disabling it. Can someone confirm?
What's that Chinese Android game at 6:59?
That cpu isn't on the compatibility list any longer?
The bios update would likely bring temp down as the soc voltage might lower.
The chips are certified to 95c so 75c sounds a bit silly for a buffer
That's not where the problem will be on A620 motherboards. I'm far more worried that the MOSFETs will have an early grave!
@@RJARRRPCGP over voltage on the soc is a problem regardless as it still adds heat and watts
A620 looks good but the IO😢, but the x3d chips are a good pair for it. Maybe a 7600x3d ❤
What sucks, is that the lower end boards lack IO on the back and such. Else A?20 anything would be awesome for any budget non-overclocker!
They also lack M.2 Heatsinks.. So if you want the use the slots.. You have to be aware to spend 30 euros on m.2 cooling.. Which calculated together will still be an 170 - 190 euro motherboard.
i want to take new A620 itx GB board with 7700. should be very nice build.
Do you think you'd get any small uptick in performance using a full ATX A620 board?
Not even using a full fledged x670e (extreme) did he get any uptick in performance. So in this case the chipset (independent on mother board size) is not the bottleneck.
At 6200Mhz was the F-clock 1 to 1? Would you also test Asrock A620M Pro RS WiFi? (I know it's 125 and Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 is 130 but that one has WiFi 6 and 1 more USB 3.0 on the back compared to the B650 one i mentioned) I am also curious about its VRM and VRM performance cuz out of all the A620 boards, it seems this one has the beefier heatsink for the VRM, the other option would be ASUS TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS WiFi but that one is 150 bucks! (initially 160 which was even more stupid!) THANKS!
I'm interested in that board as well! Wccftech has a mildly interesting comparison on it using a 7950x3d, for what it's worth.
I'm more interested in if PBO or any type of undervolting works.
@@UncleButterworth And with the new AGISA bios update can it run 7800X3D at 6400Mhz at 1 to 1? that would set you up with a base PC for years!
Would these results be able to be extrapolated to the A620I (mini-ITX) chipset? I'm planning a build for a buddy and if that's a yes I can save him $100. Great video btw!
What happend i want to buy mini A chepsit
Theres no real cutbacks in the A620 mobos for a gamer who isnt into the PC that much.. Would like to see VRM cooling on the board tho - the 7800X3D does pull power and a little bit of VRM passive cooling is recommended. 86c on an open test bed in a large ventillated room isnt a real world usage. Put it in a small budget case with bad airflow
We've got here A620 Motherboard
It is possible that Windows High Performance power setting especially on Ryzen prevent the CPU from clocking down on IDLE. This keeps the power consumption relatively high on idle.
Probably due to chiplet design.
Which cpu?
"Tuned" vs "Default" performance is so negligible, I would not bother with tuning for performance gain (5:57). I would, however, work on decreasing power consumption and heat.
I was checking A620 prices this morning and it is nice to see some lower priced AM5 options, curious to see what the itx offering looks like. It is funny that AMD requires 4 ram slots on the X670 when 4 ram sticks doesn't appear to work on AM5.
To my knowledge 4 ram sticks still work miles better on AM5 than on Intel right now. Zen 4 memory controller caps at about 6200MHz anyway, so theres little to no memory clock penalty using 4 sticks, when on Intel you would have to run like 800MHz lower clocks just to get 4 sticks to boot.
It "works" on AMD....
But forget about EXPO/XMP speeds, you only get JEDEC.
But for real, I have an X670 system with a 7950X it has 4x16GB of 7600 MT/s CL40 ram, it runs 5000 CL38 fine with manual tweaking (4800 CL40/JEDEC no tweaking). Runs 6200 CL38 at 2x16GB. If I try to post with faster speeds I get a hard crash and need to reset BIOS. Man AM5 is "fun".
@@johnfreeman5956 Figured that I just confused dual rank and 4 sticks with each other. Dual rank has no negative impact on Ryzen, but on Intel it does. 4 sticks is a totally another story even with Ryzen it seems. Fun stuff ig
@@atirta777 Yep, dual rank vs single rank has no detriment on memory speeds (dual rank is faster tho for some niche stuff)
What about the 7700x. I heard it draws more power than the 7800X3D and thus it could stress the board more? Right now I have a really good deal on the 7700x that makes me consider getting into AM5, instead of AM4.
You can just undervolt the 7700x, you wont lose that much that you would notice it.
a620m gaming x the new budget champ?
yeah the ryzen X3D is the best using low budget Motherboard like 320m and 620m, because watt limit and voltage disabled, so is safe
A650 Tomahawk looks like the sweet spot for my cash right now.
I would love to see the difference between the old bios and a new bios on the A620. Does it have an impact on performance?
Thank you, this is a type of video I love 🙂
The new BIOS might even add voltage control
I Will build a new PC, i was wondering if a Should get a A620 Mobo instead of a B650, itll be like 200$ cheaper and i Will be able to play sooner, Or Should i spend those 200 and get a mobo that i aint going to change?
Thank you! Your reviews are so much better than those of Hardware Unboxed, it's a relief to see ACTUAL testing, with VRM thermal imaging, under REALISTIC conditions, that's what I am looking for!
One critic though: it's a little bit misleading to not mention that the difference between A620 and X670 was never about gaming performance, but about the features. So this "comparison" is completely useless at the end, as the capability of running a 7800X3D properly only depends on the VRM performance, and so the proper comparison should have been for example: do you need a motherboard with 11 phases (which could be a A620 motherboard too! No need to go up to B650 or X670 to get these!!) to run the 7800X3D properly, or are 9 phases enough?
By the way, you should also mention that 6400MHz memory is not a criteria, as there is virtually no performance difference on non-APUs with 4800MHz. It's your duty as professional youtubers to make sure people don't get hyped by marketing BS.
Man, I need your feedback,,, just ordered 7800X3D,,,i need MB and RAM to order soon,,, what would you suggest to me exactly models,,,just gaming,,,no overclocking,,,I don't want to spend to much,,,pease
@@gezimlimoni2319 Get the motherboard reviewed in this video. And get any RAM. Even a 4800MHz kit would be enough, as only APUs really need higher bandwidth.
@@sassuki thanks man,,,, greetings from Kosovo!
It can’t go above 120W
can someone tell me, why the hell m.2 still uses screw??? where it can easily be locked by a clip or something simpler
Some motherboards do now have a fixed m.2 flap/clip.
@@Safetytrousers good to know
How about the 5800x3d on the a320?
Most manufacturers have updated bios which do support it
5600x3d is coming soon too
@@topg2820 thats just a rumor
I don't know if it is even possible to run one safely, when multiple low-end AM4 motherboards seem unable to handle more than 6c/12t.
So glad to see a good tech channel actually indicate the lower chipset. I think it is ridiculous that so many channels out there only recommend the top chipsets. So many people never come close to use the higher specs on those chipsets, it's literally money thrown away. In many 3rd world countries the higher chipsets difference is twice or even thrice those of 1st world countries, so it makes quite the difference.
Some x670e boards have an eclk which is needed to OC a 7800x3d
Which boards are?
Yup, the A620M-HDV/M.2+ is really awesome!
Thanks for your review on the board sir
I'm worried not having pcie 5 for gpus will be a issue in the future any thoughts?
Did RTX 4090 use up all that banwidth? it's a hard question that only time can answer. Right now just happy at what you have.
Get worry about more important things...
Nah, only reason you need pcie5 is if you are limited by lanes, like some super cheap garbage video cards do
@@raikoh05 "like some super cheap garbage video cards do"
rx 6650xt ($399) - 8x pcie lanes
rtx 4060ti ($399) - 8x pcie lanes