This A620 Motherboard HANDLES a 7950X....(!)
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- I thought ASrock were joking at Computex when they told me their PRO RS Series boards, even the A620M, could handle the Ryzen 9 7950X. And today we put it to the test. The results are impressive, so much that in a certain scenario it could be better than an X670E with this CPU combination.
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Chapters
00:00 How it all unfolds.
01:45 VRM testing and temperatures.
06:38 Limited Options in bios means we will have to find a workaround for tuning this combo!
08:23 Work around found xD.
11:31 these results were with a water cooler, let's test with a $20 snowman air cooler.
13:30 Conclusion, this combo is surprisingly realy good, and there is one benefit over x670e in a certain situation.
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a good pair for 7500f
Hell yea 7600x 7700x too
That cpu available?
I know AWD-IT in the uk sell a bundle of this motherboard plus the 7500f for £299
No mention if it uses the stock cooler though
I have a question why does everyone measure computer heat in c not in f because it never made sense to me 60c which everyone calls cool isn't cool it actually 140 degree
@@blue-lu3iz ik 60c is the same in Celsius but the fact people say that 60c is cool and my PC running cool I laugh because that CPU actually hot af
Tbh AsRock really did a solid job on AM5 entry level motherboards in general. Pleasantly surprised how far cheap motherboards can go with the right components in place.
Finally! The sequel to the 5950X on an A520!
I ran that configuration for 9 months straight. No case 😂
@@joshuamaserowgood for you. Clowns saw you need a MoBo as expensive as the CPU 🤡🤡🤡
@@joshuamaserowwhat is your CPU cooler?
7950x
My experience with a 7950x has given me super wonky results. I don't know if it's the ram, the motherboard; Who knows. The AM5 platform is just less stable than AM4. RPCS3 definitely crashes more on the same settings on AM5 unless I dial back memory speed, and even then, some weird stuff still happens. AMD should really look into bringing out a B750/X770 variant. I'd assume that A620 maybe a little more mature, but that's just me guessing.
19:00 There's some impressive impressiveness...
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Put that on a T-shirt.
This video and information is GREAT. So cool you squeezed the snowman cooler in it too. I wonder if the 6-heatpipes snowman would do better.
This newer motherboards are using Drmos as mosfets. And I think they are getting pretty cheap, cheaper than conventional highside lowside 2+2 mosfet combo. I hope amd release a 610 chipset that would cost $50-$70 to support the adaption of new APUs.
really impressed with an A620 mobo... and I LOVE LOVE LOVE what you said at the end about telling Asrock about the ITX idea, bro if they would do that holy crap
I didn't took the Yes Man as a Final Fantasy Man too but that example, daaaaaaaamnnn! A man of culture aswell. I'm eager to see the video on the main Windows settings culprits of latency.
Great job asrock once again and awesome job Bryan as well!Some classic 'madman' content here!A620 is an only option in 3rd world countries so glad to see there are realy good budget ones!
Great video. I am impressed with how accurate your benchmarking is.... unlike some other channels
*What OTHER channel ???* 🤔 🤣 Oh ..... you mean, the one who starts with an 'L" ? That I just unsubbed from ?! 😜
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 😁
Glad you shared this, it makes me finally consider building a low-power, low-latency setup.
Thank You, for this video...I do like videos that demonstrate how a motherboard is being tested. Especially the budget friendly ones.
Great video missed the tech yes city vids hope you enjoyed your break
Wow! the Ice Man has been put in the ring with yet another Beastly CPU. I use Asrock boards every chance I get too. It is really hard to jack up the boards without doing any physical damage. I totally trust their QVl, and compatibility lists, and Tech Yes City Man.
Great video!
mindblowing that A series board now, can handle flagship cpu more "stable" in power ratio than X series out of the box.
I upgraded from i5 4th gen to R9 5950X at launch with an X470 board for $110 US. I even got one open box B450 board for $55.
So my expectations for motherboard prices have been ruined by AM4.
This video provides hope of better things to come.
Now that I've got some decent systems I won't be upgrading until the tech yes price performance hits a banger.
Thanks for bringing that great content Brian!
Yea especially when shipping isn't an option some of us are stuck with over priced stuff
@@NYC-Potatoes - upgraded from 4670k to 7700x
@michal1693 still playing on i5 4460 & i5 10400
@@NYC-Potatoes - sry, i was replying to OP
@michal1693 ok, I have more stuff older and newer ( thanks for the "classes" Professor B @ TYC )
Great review and config testing prequel. I would really like to see you review the matx 650m pro rs and the matx B650M PG Riptide. What i like about the pro rs versions is that you have an easy removable cmos battery, which seems to be hidden under some heatsink or cover with the riptide, but i'm curious about the difference in performance. I own a steel legend 650E for my main rig and i'm very pleased with it. But these asrock matx boards look like a great option for a secondary smaller matx and smaller budget build.
great experiment!
This video means Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 that have better vrm than the A620 on this video at the same price is all you need for a long lasting am5 motherboard. It is cheap compared to intel since intel need a lot more juice to pump out those performance therefore needing better motherboard.
Intel just sucks balls dude ! AMD is the future !
ascrock b550m steel legend for 120 bucks was my 1st asrock board in like 10 years.
and i am also blown away.
the build quality, features, connectors, bios, OC capabilities AND price make this board a miles better product than the X570 gigabyte aorus master i also have.
for future builds i ll definitely consider asrock as first choice wherever possible
My Asrock B450 Pro RS has been flawless for years first with a 3600 and now with a 5700x. I got it for $60 bundled with the 3600 and it has been amazing. I have it loaded with 2 NVME, 2 SATA SSD and 1 HDD and have had zero issues.
great review, but you should be testing asrock b650m/hdv/m.2 which is similar price, but enables undervolting and has pcie5. I'm using it for 3 months now with 7700x. BTW matx is the new atx
What are vrm temps? To check them, u have to use infrared thermometer
@@rajmangalpandey3910 - software monitors display that data too. HW info shows close to ambient temps
I think it would be cool if we something similar to memory training in bios. So you just set a power and temp limit and it will auto OC and undervolted to get the best performance. I know you can do similar in software but it would be better in bios for us linux users.
Brian did you ever make the two follow up videos you mention in this video? Keep up the great work!
I think Asrock makes some great boards, I have been on a B550 steel legend for the last 2 years and its great. I also remember hardware unboxed saying some good things about 1 of their entry level B650 boards, I believe that board was only $125 (Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 Review).
Glad to be back to regular videos instead of RUclipsr drama time.
Man, I read that the AsRock A620s were good, but I didn't expect them to be this good tbh. Hope you can test a 7800X3D on it as a part two for it, since I've read that the X3D cpus are much more hotter vs the non X3D series. I guess I'm going to consider an A620 myself when Ryzen 8000 comes out since I'm tired of overpaying for a chipset !
The Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 is $129 usd, and is unlocked with an even better VRM. Steve, from Hardware Unboxed, has even recommended it on several occasions.
*I just LOVE ASRock !!! No other brand for me, ever again !*
ASRock rules !!! Even their GPU's are AWESOME !
Nice board!!
Hey Bryan ,i see you got yourself a new Philips monitor . You planning on making a review of it ? What model is it ? I see they are a new lineup monitors from philips and you liked their oled version a lot .
12:30 - Have you ever tried the 6-pipe Snowman? When I bought mine, the 6-pipe was the same price, so I figured it was a no brainer. I also wonder how an older 'good' air cooler would fare with these setups, what these days are cheap 2nd-hand, like a VenomousX or TRUE You should also try the 5-heatpipe Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE, seems to work very well (I've bought several), in the UK it's only 16 UKP new (less than 20 USD).
That A620 is very interesting, finally some decent pricing, and it shows one doesn't need the crazy high end to achieve good results. It's a bit more expensive in the UK (135 UKP), but getting there slowly. As others have said, a good match for a 7600 or 7500F, etc.
Am intrigued
I bought the MSI a620m-e from Amazon for $80 after tax, paired with R5-7600g, 32Gb 5800, it rips everything at good settings, I'm very happy with the combo. MSI bios is enough for overclock settings, xmp, i undervolted and overclocked with the auto setting and the power draw is consistent under 65w, usually averages 55w under gaming conditions. When it's time to upgrade I'll only need to change cpu and gfx card. My RX5700 XT OC is perfect for the AAA I'm currently playing, and getting a consistent 60-150 fps in starfield at High 1080p settings. Saving up for a 7600xt in six months.
AsRock have this AMD chipset generation, smashed it out of the park imo with their A620 chipset motherboards offering great features, performance, vrm thermals etc at a vg price 💪🥰🥳👍. If these cheaper A620 mobos been available at the beginning of the AM5 CPUs launch, AM5 would’ve sold very well imo 😇🤩🥳👍.
Yeah man, like I've been saying for years now ..... *ASRock RULES !*
Tri the mini-ITX. Azrock have always made great MITX and was my introduction to the format. Had a custom loop 8700k OC on it. I am back on it again but with ASUS this time.
With the way many of the early AM5 boards were being priced, it's nice to see some options that are a little closer to Earth. This is largely achieved through use of the more budget-oriented chipsets, and scaling down the PCIe 5 support. How much benefit will most of us see from a PCIe 5.x SSD or GPU? Little to none.
I am constantly surprised by the quality you get from Asrock products, often for very low prices. Well done Asrock.
Been loving the 7900X with B650E
You mentioned that you did not want to use 8000MHz ram as it would change the cpu dividers, but you still applied UCLK=MEMCLK/2 in the BIOS for your 6200MHz tune. Am I missing something?
12:32 ..... *Love the SNOWMAN, But do you think, that an extra fan could help ?* Like an PUSH-PULL config on that Snowman ?! Have you ever tested that sort of config on the Snowman ?
Can you please make a video about under volting am5 and especially how to test on Ubuntu instead of windows?
70c for the vrams is awesome!
So the motherboards that came out at launch, were really overkill 😅
Hello. In this video , was the processor somehow limited or is it in the drain ? Will it be possible to immediately install and run without undervolting ?
New tech yes video makes me feel slightly better about missing out on a 6800 card that was going for 500 AUD. BTW your tip that FB marketplace has many more deals and are better in general to gumtree (oh how the mighty have fallen) at least when it comes to pc components, has been a real lifesaver for the bank account, thanks! ❤
Good day Brian, how do you fully test the system units you flip before selling them? I find benchmarks not that accurate for system stability hence would like to know your opinion on this. thanks in advance!
*When I flip mine I run a few benchmarks & also actually run a game*
I lucked up in July and picked a 7600x and Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX board from Best Buy for $289.98 usd on a Fire sale.
In the otherside my old B450 DS3h didn't handled well even a R5 2600, when I changed to a R9 3900 I needed to underclock to 2.9ghz to prevent random freezes
The Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 is $129 usd, and is unlocked with an even better VRM. For Five Bucks more, it'd be my choice. But, that board is not the focus of this video.
I'm so glad you give Asrock products a fair shake. They've been a solid AMD Ryzen and Radeon product producer since Ryzen came out. They are either a little bit cheaper (apples to apples) or, they give you a little bit more for the same price as their competition. I have become an Asrock fan.
The Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 doesn't have the better VRM, that is why he chose to review the Pro RS version instead. Watch the early part of the video for his explanation.
@@razznote7586 I'm referring to the B650M HDV/M.2 . . . . not the A620M HDV/M.2+ he mentioned in the beginning of this video. My statement that the B650M HDV/M.2 has a better VRM is correct as it has an 8+2+1 DrMos VRM that can handle over 200 watts. The A620M Pro RS has a 6+2+1 DrMos VRM that tops out around 165-170 watts. Also the B650M HDV/M.2 has the B650 chipset that has PCIe 5.0 and a true Gen2 USB-C front connector and 2.5GB Ethernet, _AND_ it also has an M.2 "E" key slot so you can ad wifi if you want to, and it's only five bucks more.
Hey there, great video, sorry to bother you but what is your experience with asrock RMA response time?
I have an x570M PPO4 with a primary m.2 post repair request I submitted on the 20th but that was a Sunday so I'm still trying to be patient.
Where are you ? In my country (Holland / Netherlands) Their support is just insanely good !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 U.S. Washington State
What not enable pbo2 and curve optimiser? Its in the amd overclocking section in the bios.
Whiichair and water cooler 240 is the best ?? And which ddr4 or ddr5 sticks are the best ?? Is corsair memory , ssd the best. ?? How to run rgb on different brands.
what is the best AMD ryzen 9 8/12/16 core upgradable solution in a mini ATX Case motherboard build that would include USB4 or external HW additional card thunderbolt? that is based on performance and gaming you would recommend? perhaps videos of parts 1,2 and or 3? We have now AMD mini PCs offering adjacent solutions with about half to two thirds if the price difference.....
Yeah.. I bought X670E for future cpu's down on the line too.. i don't think this mobo could handle next gen's ( depends how many of them we will have till end of the socket life ).. I am not an expert but i think depends what you using your pc for.. hows temps in your room, how long your pc will work per day .. how much stress you will put on the system.. how long ( endurance ) etc.. I assume 7950x users mostly earning money with their pc, doing more than just "gaming" .. Anyway, thank you for this review Tech, it's interesting board i must admit.. and it can work
This board was interesting until I noticed it wasn't actually cheaper than the go-to budget B650 board (B650M-HDV/M.2).
I used a 5900x on a a520m once lol, it was a pre built system that i began upgrading and then eventually built my own and my brothers. Temps were fine but i dont really use any heavy programs.
Nice!
brian i hope you see my comment .. what about the B650M-HDV/M.2 it's on amazon for 125 bucks can you make a video about it ? HUB said it's good but i wanna know your opinion too
Hmmm I'm going to buy this board!
will the ryzen 7 7800x3d perform well on this motherboard? won't the vrm zone overheat, in general everything will be ok or is the maximum board like 7500f?
Please do review on a620i asrock with some good gaming cpu. In czech the prices are high still.. thanks
Does this fit in an itx case?
Im trying to build my first pc with 7800x3d
I have one with my setup and I can say its a very good motherboard and with cool design😎 my build is just a R5 7600, A620 pro rs wifi, 16gb xpg lançar 5200mhz, 1tb nvme, RX 6600 and 600w psu and i can say its very stable for gaming and working with programs like revit, sketchup and visualcode
I have the b650m pro rs what a great board too. Got it for 120 bucks.
Can you make a episode of old gaming how to run a old dos game like prototype or how to run emulators which software is emulating your xbox controller.
Im sorry if im missing something, but isn't the 7950x supposed to boost up to 230 watts? In your video it seems to hover around 160-165w. Isn't that the mobo vrms throttling?
About 4:10 mentioned it is the board limit
Technically not vrm throttled ,just a soft limit set on board 😂
I have paired Asus Tuf gaming A620m wife mother board with Ryzen 5 7600x. It's working fine for video editing.
more yourubers should do tests like these
*For real lol I made a video on the Maxsun A520m board but very basic compared to this lol*
could you look at the gigabyte a620m? It has even a better vrm than this, It looks like the same vrm as on their 650. I think it could do the full 170w
I can see the ASRock CPUs Support List extended to Ryzen 5 9600X (65W), Ryzen 7 9700X (65W), and Ryzen 9 9900X (120W). The R9 9950X (170W) looks like too much. But maybe I'm wrong.
I actually use iGPU as my video out even for gaming on my 7950X. It basically behaves like laptop with dGPU and iGPU to save power on desktop. iGPU can run all desktop tasks including decoding video and rendering pages no issue at all. When I fire up game dGPU kicks in and there is no difference. I might lose a bit of performance, but I couldn't care less since I am running Radeon Chill to limit my frames and power usage anyway 🙂
yup. exchanged my 5800x for an 5700G for the iGPU to use hybrid graphics. With multi monitor setups and stuff like microsoft teams open, zoom, office programs, IDEs, browsers, etc..., my dGPU used to draw 70 Watts (1080TI) or 30-60 Watts (RX 6800) constantly.
now with the iGPU, my dGPU sits fully idle with 5Watts the 8-10 hours i work at home.
btw. on top of that, the monolithic design of the 5700G makes it draw constantly 20 Watts less than its chiplets counterpart.
@@nevernicemeadow yeah, I spent quite a bit of time tweaking my 7950X, idles around 21W at 6000MHz memory. 5900X was idling about same. But running some video pushes it to 40-50W range. APUs are great for your use case, props for making smart decision. Most ppl dont care or dont know 🙂 But this might be over as even new AM5 APU are going to be likely chiplet design with i/o die and it's over. Was hoping to ditch my 7950X and get some nice monolithic APU and push the memory into 7000+ range for low latency.
@Tech YES City This is good tip for cool content nobody really knows about, use 7000 iGPU to save quite a bit of power. I am not sure why you disable the GPU where in fact it's power saver!
@@Monsicek 7950x at 21w idle is impressive. Couldnt get my 5800x below 24.
I thought the strix point APUs are still coming to Desktop and Feature Up to 12 cores, 16 CUs and are monolithic? Maybe i am wrong?
Fyi. When working, even with RUclips running on one Monitor my 5700g just sipps ~15-20 Watts when in Power saving mode (max 3750MHz). My while setup includin 1x24"1080p and 1x27"1440p uses now 80-100w while working comparerd to 5800x at 100-200w depending on the mood of dGPU running in powerstate0 or powerstate1
I bought the MSI A620-E for $75. Can you test it? I have a few CPUs to test it but I don't have much measuring equipment to see if its burning down or not besides my finger and my nose.
Did you test the wifi at all? The antennas look a little no bueno.
Are there old trix to speed up your game pc and network speed without over clocking.
So if i add the 7800x3d will i still need to tweak the temp in the bios?
Can u use the offset voltage on 7800x3d to for this board
Asrock is killing it with their AM5 lineup.
I have the Ryzen 7 7800x3D it ASRock B650M PG Riptide + GSkill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000MT's CL30 + Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT and no need more than that to playing games the B650M is a good Motherboard to 7800X3D 😊
Most people over-buy on motherboards. That being said, some of the cheap ones can really give you a horrible experience as a PC gamer. For instance, I have an Asrock H77M-HDV that will throttle the CPU fan to 100% as soon as it hits 65C. I ended up having to put an overkill CPU cooler on the thing to keep it reasonably quiet. Also, watch your PWM headers and pay attention to whether they are 3-pin or 4-pin. Little things like this can ruin your experience.
No Curve Optimizer is a deal breaker for me, can't even undervolt a 7800X3D or use a power limit, because that falls under PBO? What about Eco mode?
Gigabyte A520i AC $110 USD on Amazon... Temperatures seem ok but I haven't done much with it (since MAY 2023) has a Ryzen 5 5500
Gigabyte & MSI are the worst on AM5 !
@gertjanvandermeij4265 not going down that route yet its am4
This motherboard is a golden egg 🥚
BUT! How is the snappy?
I see that vddcr vdd voltage goes uptill 1.45v??? Is that safe?
Is it insanity? Or is it a grand-slammity? Yeah .. I know. Sorry.
i love asrock boards they are beautiful.
i thought about it. it gets 6+2+1 power phases (7 plots on the left of cpu) so 165W should be good.
i opted for the Asus a620m tuf wifi. (8 plots on the left of cpu).
If the vrm as the same as in the Asus b650m.......poor luck for me. will see.
Did you got access to pbo settings ?
EDIT : vrm's looks exactly the same between asus b650 and a620.
pretty bad luck for me then......vrms are really weak and hot in those Asus boards
don't buy them so
good move for Asrock
Asus, pretty good marketing for an A brand.......in a sinical way
Is it better than asus tuf a620m plus wifi in the same price range?
An ITX variant of this board would indeed be very welcome. And it should put one m.2 slot on the back.
Most A620 I've seen only has one m2 slot. For €8-50 more you get a B650 with way better features. Price will always differ per market but I've seen B650 being cheaper than A620 due to they are "older" 😅
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
Nice to see an A620 can actually handle the high end CPUs, now if someone besides Gigabyte would release an A620 itx motherboard.
Gigabyte & MSi are just the worst !
How is2 Asus Tuf gaming A620m pro wifi?
Anyone can explain to me; is the 7950X a 170W CPU or 230W CPU? Does the 7950X in this video runs at full power or capped because of the motherboard?
I know it is absurd to consider 7950X with A620 board. However, I do want to know if this board is capable of the true might of the 7950X.
You won't be able to get 230 watts on a620. That's the maximum asrock were allowed (by AMD) to push it on a620. I believe there was a cap in before that of 120W. So technically they are going above the a620 limit here.
Would this motherboard be ok with a Ryzen 7 7700?
Nice guide of how to kneecap a 7950X and loose about 2-3K points in cinebench!
Nice!! Don't care for the wifi (my desktop is hard wired with no need of wifi), but I always like capable budget boards.
The wifi version is usually only €1 more expensive due to they seem to sell better. And now we get wifi 6E 👍🏻 I'm stuck on wifi 6 though but I don't notice any difference between wireless or cable, so I did away with my 25 meter cat6A cable..
@@_TrueDesire_Cool, but for me I don't have large wires to get rid of - it's a part of my house (I hardwired my home years ago). Wifi in a desktop really is genuinely a colossal waste for me.
@@nukedathlonman I've been playing wireless since the wifi5 era, I just used a cat6A cable this time around due to I moved. But thankfully my main internet port/fibre converter got moved just last week so I had that long cable laying around 😂 100% wifi signal, zero difference for me while gaming. Having an ITX system I want to reduce clutter, I even got a portable 17,3" 1080p144 monitor instead of my old 25".
I downsized both my apartment and computer in one sweep 👍🏻
@@_TrueDesire_ Cool, and of course being in an apartment, pretty sure no landlord would be happy if any renter ran wires in the walls.
@@nukedathlonman imagine drilling in some hidden wires 🙈 it's just not something I would gamble on, along with repair fees when I move out.
The CPU that has a higher RRP than my yearly channel budget 😁
Can you do pbo2?
Will the 7500f + A620 be the new best budget build?
*This is what I want to build next!*
Yes.. then upgrade when 10000 series come
Seems B650M PG Lightning shares the same VRM
I still love my MSI X670E Carbon wifi with 7900x3d
still cant find b650m riptide with wifi in my region
Wow. Budget boards are now competing with entry level. With wifi and vrm heatsink too
*I just LOVE ASRock !!! No other brand for me, ever again !*
ASRock rules !!! Even their GPU's are AWESOME !