20 years ago I was a kitchen designer and introduced to Miele dishwashers for the first time - having one in our showroom. I was skeptical of how much better the $2,000 dishwasher could possibly be over your standard dishwasher. Well, we had a party one night that consisted of a pan of lasagna. We ate 95% of it and put the pan/leftover in the refrigerator over night. The next day, I realized I needed to clean this pan that still had an overwhelming amount of cold, rock hard lasagna residue. I didn't bother to scrape it into the garbage. I didn't bother to pre rinse or soak. I just put the filthy cold pan encrusted with hard, baked on lasagna residue+ into the Miele dishwasher. Put the tab in. Closed it. Started it.... I came back a couple hours later and it was like a Houdini magic trick. The pan AND the inside of the dishwasher was sparking clean, dry, and not a hint there was ever lasagna! I was sold on them!
It was the same, with my old 1987 Miele, but it has stopped doing that, a couple of years ago. It still washes most dishes clean, but the days, of using it like a trashbin are unfortunately over. The washpump is slowly starting to wear out.
Great video. I have this dishwasher and I bought this direct from Miele, as I live in the same town as uk headquarters (and factory outlet). Current UK price is £659 for cleansteel. What I wanted to say though is about Miele delivery and installation. If they cannot fit aqua stop through gap, and make it connect, they will not connect it. They will either leave you to connect, or take the machine back. They are not specialist plumbers, and as such the only tool they came with was a flat head screwdriver for the jubilee clip. Luckily, it was just able to be connected, but others should be aware. For note on the outlet, I managed to pick up the clean steel model, in a grade B3, for £329.50, including delivery, install and old appliance disposal.
My dishwasher and load it how I like is a sentence I couldn’t agree more with than I already do. In my words your dishwasher your right to load your way. I bet some would complain how I load mine but like you I will load it my way regardless of who thinks otherwise.
Found this video because I've just ordered one and checking it out. I used to sell this sort of stuff, and have had a Miele washing machine for years but had a Bosch dishwasher. After fifteen years it is getting a bit tired hence ordering this Miele. A couple of points re the aquastop. First check which way up they have to be. Several high end manufacturers fit these safety devices but often they can be fitted vertically as you have it or horizontally with the lumpy bit hanging down but they must not be fitted with the lumpy bit on top. Check the instructions carefully. RE the extension pipe an alternative is to buy a self tapping tap. You bolt it over the cold water pipe and then screw the fitting in and it cuts a hole in the pipe. You don't even have to turn the water supply off. In your situation it looked like there would be plenty of space on your cold water pipe to fit one of these taps and you wouldn't then need the extension pipe. The aquastop BTW cannot be built into the machine. It is designed to cut the water supply in case of any leak, even if the hose was accidentally cut. If the aquastop was in the machine it wouldn't be able to cut the supply to the hose. Another excellent feature Miele dishwashers have, and I checked this model still has it, is that when you remove the filter (at 6 min 20 seconds) you can see the bit sticking out on the left which is the non return valve. That is held in with a clip and can be removed easily by hand giving you access to the valve and the water pump blades, which means if any blockage happens and the machine isn't draining you can unblock it yourself in minutes. All I have to do now is wait for mine to arrive....
very interesting demo. Being from the US we don't get some of the same features on any dishwashers like the auto settings or the salt containers. and one of the things we have here by building code is that all dishwashers are hooked to hot water inlets only. but props to a machine that kicks our crappy equipment's butts!
Great vid, but I hope you don't mind me adding a couple of points that might interest people looking to buy one of these: 1) It's worth knowing (especially if self-installing) that the machine has to be calibrated to your area's water hardness when installing. (If you set the hardness to below a certain setting, it actually deactivates the salt warning light. You can also deactivate the rinse aid warning light if you don't want to use rinse aid.) The hardness can be looked up on your local water board's website, and then there's a special combination of buttons (described in the user manual) to set the water softener accordingly. 2) Another feature that seems to get overlooked is that (again, with a special combination of buttons you'll find in the instructions) you can programme set the machine to always "remember" the last programme you used, instead of always reverting to ECO when you switch on. I only mention this because I've seen a few complaints on internet forums about the machine reverting to default every time you switch on, so a lot of people might not be aware of this feature.
We are going to go for the G4940. Thank you for the tips on installing as hubby is going to do this as usual. Forewarned is forearmed as they say. He now knows what to order to complete the job.
I just used mine tonight for the first time . Had it set on auto and it took 1.5 hrs but boy did my pans and all come out super!! Although I had all them lights flashing that are not suppose to , have to look into it . Overall I really recommend this excellent machine .
"It's my dishwasher. I'll load it how I like." Hahahaha! I love that. As I've been know to critique how my husband loads, I had to laugh and tell my husband that he would love your commentary. He smiled. : ) Thanks for the thorough review. Here in the U.S.A. and just ordered a Miele dishwasher as our 20+ year KitchenAid DW finally died and I was looking for something that is built to last.
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A very helpful video re the Miele G4203 SC Active Dishwasher we are considering purchasing. Miele is one of the few remaining dishwasher companies still in private hands in Germany. We have been advised to purchase the German built and assembled model rather than the model assembled in Czechoslovakia of German components. Any comments or advice most welcomed.
Great video. I appreciated watching how you load the dishwasher to see what I've been doing wrong! I'm truly amazed at how clean everything was! I wondered if this was possible, actually. My 4 year old Kenmore is useless. I thought it was down to how I loaded it, but based on what I just saw on your video I realize that in fact it's my machine, not me. The cutlery is all full of water marks, and some food debris. Bowls will not get clean no matter where they are placed. Pots and pans, forget about it. Glasses covered in water marks. So yeah, I'm getting rid of it. However, I just looked up what your machine would cost here in Canada and it's $1300!
In the US. Had a Miele for 8 years (stainless front) and a few months ago the motor died. Would be $1000 for parts & labor. Ended up replacing it with a newer Miele. It no longer has the aqua stop solenoid on the end of the water hose. All G6000 models now use a regular metal braided hose. The solenoid valve is now inside of the unit.
Yes, I got the entry level one (G4228) and it had a regular hose. Which is good because I would have had a bear of a time fitting that boxy thing through.
Just bought this one today. I was undecided between Bosch and Miele but I think Miele has an edge over Bosch on dishwashers, even on entry level models. I hope I did the right choice. To be honest, the price surprised me as a bargain
AFAIK, the aqua-stop control has a housing box that can be gently pried apart, which reduces its bulk during installation. Obviously, it's meant to have that beige/grey housing outside during normal operation, but if the saw hole for the cabinetry seems too small to pass the device through, it may be worth trying the trick above. Often, the reduction in size is just enough to pass the control through - leaving the power cord & inlet hose till later - which can save having to hack another hole, or enlarge the existing hole. The guy who installed my Miele dw did that it worked a treat and saved him time & effort!
Excellent tip about the extension hose. Have a safety valve fitted on my Siemens dishwasher which fortunately fitted ok under my sink, but had it not... this would have worked well.
Nice video. Just one thing, ALWAYS fill the salt container. That machine has a built in water softener, that's what the salt is for. It's used to flush out the resin chamber during it's regeneration cycle. The salt doesn't soften the water, the water is soften by being passed through resin in the softener. Failing to add salt will produce poor results and eventually lead to needing the softener to be replaced.
@@YPO6 Obviously, I didn't think that needed saying. As an ex service engineer, you'd be amazed at how many people don't use salt as they've been told they don't need it.
Wow: very nice video and briliand results. Well, i am living in the CZECH REPUBLIC, as i was born there. We have got an Electrolux dish washer and the results are not so briliand. Thanks for your video... Sory, my english is not very well...
Your English is wonderful. :) I should get one of these European machines. Here in the Southwestern USA we have very hard water with a lot of calcium buildup. Euro dishwashers seem to handle hard water with lots of calcium much better.
Useful video, thanks. I've just replaced my G5500 with this one, and I miss the "rinse & hold" function. The G5500 has a 40 deg cycle, and when you press turbo is just rinses it for 12 minutes. Is there any way to program any of the programs to do this? What would you suggest?
I'm pretty sure, that the dishes seen in this video, still will get out perfectly clean, when selecting the 50C+turbo program. It still washes at a longer amount of time than with my very old G522 from 1987 with this program, instead of the 1 hour program with mine. I think it is quite rediculous to have an intensive program of 70 degrees, which actually takes 2,5 hours to finish the program. That's quite a loss of time, in case you need less time, for reusing your stuff, especially, when having guests over at parties. It possibly costs more electricity too. When I ever need to buy a new dishwasher, I will examine the possible programs, and decide on that, what to buy. On the other hand, I have used several more modern dishwashers while on vacation in apartments, and they all have quite the same programs, as shown in this video. That is quite a pity. But understandable too, as all dishwasher-manufacturers, want to sell their stuff, so they need to have something to fight to keep their prominent status on the market. Especially with brands like Miele, Bosch, Siemens. So it is us, the customers, who must pay the price for their wars. 😅
My handle is fine and the machine is still going strong since I made this video. I would get another Miele dishwasher, but probably go for a more expensive model.
Thank you for the informative video! How often do you have to clean out the filter basket, since this dishwasher does not have a self-cleaning filter or food grinder built into it? Three years into ownership of your Miele, are you still happy with its performance?
muzzgit You should not use PTFE tape on compression fittings, including appliance hoses. The seal is made by a rubber washer being compressed between two surfaces, not by watertight threads. PTFE tape may mask a leaking washer, or may cause unintentional overtightening. Hand tight is all that is required.
Thanks for this great explanation. I was so confused with my new machine fixed in the apartment. Also I wasn't much sure which detergent I should be buying. This is pretty clear. Can I know that I could use liquid dishwasher instead of tablets. Could you recommend me a good brand you have bought here. Thanks.
Yes you can use a liquid detergent providing it is for dishwashers. Ordinary washing up liquid would foam up too much. I don’t have a specific recommendation but I tend to use eco friendly tablets in my dishwasher.
thanks for the video, could you please tell me the name of the product you bought from amazon to plumb in your dishwasher, as I have on order the same machine and will have the same problem as you did.thank you
I just watching the video again and i have one question: the small pan, you say you leave it out, was a main part of a second steamer. Am i right?? Can you remember?
Thank you for this video. It is so helpful! We have a model similar to this (4227SCU) coming at the end of this week. I also notice that we have the same Denby Linen dishes that you have. I am curious about loading the bowls. I notice that you have the wide flat pasta bowls - we have those too. We like to use them for big dinner salads. When you load those bowls, do you load them on every tine, or do you find that skipping a tine is necessary for the water to reach the inside of the bowls?
I tend to cram as much into the dishwasher as I can fit and only on a few occasions have I had to rewash anything, but that may be more to do with my choice of detergent than the machine itself. I normally leave a bigger gap between the pasta bowls than the dinner plates to ensure the water gets to them. Everyone's dishes are different and it may take you a few loads before you work out what should go where for best results.
My dad doesn't load the dishwasher at once cuz were waiting for more dishes so we just load half and we don't turn it on until there are too many dishes!!!
Hello, Can i ask if the soap dispenser on the Miele dishwasher is meant to jut out a little on the inner end (towards the rinsaid compartment) when closed shut? I want to buy a Miele dishwasher, but the soap dispenser in the model that I want butts out slightly towards the inner end. Is this normal for it to be this way ?
Great video. Informative and thorough. One question: how does one change the water hardness on this? It’s been used once but we want to change the hardness applied the first time. Have read the manual, but Miele’s official instruction makes no sense. Your knowledge seems more comprehensive than theirs ! Help!
Hi. I was watching your review as I have basically the same dishwasher (Canadian version) and have been having some issues with loading it. Thanks for the great demo. Could you possibly tell me where you purchased the turquoise mug with the dogs on it? My daughter and I were watching your review together and both became quite distracted by the mug. Thanks!
New sub your videos are you formative you are a natural! I love Leeds as well that won me over!! quick question I checked my water hardness and it said moderately soft do I still need to add salt water many thanks
If you use tablets with a salt function, then you don't have to, but personally even though my water is soft, I like to use salt. If you don't add salt, the refill indicator will be on all the time, though you can deactivate it. It tells you how to do this in the instruction book.
Have you tried Finish products and in particular Finish tablets , since I am using Finish Classic and Quantum max and Still I have white spots on glasses and I am using Rinse Aid, and adjusted the salt level. Have you got such experience! Please advice.The plates however are clean - spotless, could it be that I unload the dishes right after the machine is off, or it is not this. Thank you!
I never use Finish as the products are made by a company that test on animals. I use either Astonish or Ecozone tablets and Ecozone rinse aid. I normally leave the items for at least half an hour before unloading them.
@@ibaisaic do you try to open the door as soon as possible after it finishes while they sit for that half hour? or do you leave it with door closed? manual says open door but wondering your experience in achieving best dry and least water marks. Thanks sensational video! 10/10
The on/off button on my Miele G 4203 is slightly pushed inwards/deeper in the main body than the other buttons. It works perfectly for now but I am not shure how it's longevity will be. Should I ask for a replacement or a 70 £ discount?
ibaisaic I got those offers from my local technology store. It wasn't only the button which was faulty, but also the sideplade which had a small dent from shipping. Really nice of them but I don't know which offer to choose. I don't mind the dent because it will not be visible when it's installed.
@@ibaisaic Sounds great! Your two videos on the Miele are the most informative I've found so far. Would like to see an updated one, on maybe some tips and tricks when it comes to loading, choosing the cycle and detergent etc. Just a suggestion though!
If the auto mode senses that the wash is still dirty after the first rinse, how can it keep washing if it has already used and melted the washing tablet?
Probably the 50 degree program and the 75 degree one occasionally. It goes on every day.
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ibaisaic do you use the turbo often? I just received this dishwasher today but we can do several loads a day so three hours is quite long. Will we get good results with 50° turbo?
Hi which Meile models have a rotating spray arm on the top of the drum? Most dishwashers only have a lower and middle arm with a less efficient water distribution from the top down. Thanks
This is the base model, so I expect all the models that have a cutlery tray at the top will have a third spray arm. Miele's website would be the best place to check.
I probably wouldn't buy this particular model, but I would go for another Miele. I bought this for just over £300 which is a very good price, but it seems to have gone up somewhat since then. I love the cutlery tray and would always look for a dishwasher with that feature, but I think I would spend a bit more and get a quieter machine with a few more refinements.
Thanks Roger, I will continue looking. I also want the cutlery tray rather than the basket..basket is such a faff and takes up far too much room. Think it will be either a Miele or Bosch., at the moment I have a counter top dishwasher which is good but just too small as you can imagine!
I have a Siemens dishwasher that I am looking to replace. I want a dishwasher that will do a pre-rinse then automatically go on to the main wash. Mine doesn't. :-(
They dry well on the 50 and 75 degree washes but on eco there may be a bit of water left if you take them out straight away. This dishwasher is discontinued now anyway, so I can’t comment on the newer models. This one is nearly six years old and it still works fine.
does your per wash work all the time on auto & other programs forget the 75 program as it works on mine every time but the pre wash is so hit and miss with my g4203. when on auto and empty it pre washes every time (EMPTY) put a full load in and it doesn't plus the last two washes on (auto) start time 1:54 & pre wash worked these times then 20mins in to wash cycle the dishwasher time went to 2:10 so that's a 2:40 cycle this is feed by a combi boiler 3ft away plus only had 8 tea cups. can you confirm if your dishwasher pre washes on the programmes it say it should in booklet pleaseI think mine faulty
Our fully integrated Miele dishwasher stopped working and Miele wanted almost 1k to fix it. I expect that the machine should last a lot longer. The reputation and quality for lasting 20 years is obviously false advertising and a bunch of baloney. You can’t get any deals on new machines and only Miele can fix them at absorbent prices. Very unhappy with their product and attitude
Can you tell me what height you have for things on the top rack if you have the large Denby plates in the bottom? Would there be room for a 23cm high water bottle?
20 years ago I was a kitchen designer and introduced to Miele dishwashers for the first time - having one in our showroom. I was skeptical of how much better the $2,000 dishwasher could possibly be over your standard dishwasher. Well, we had a party one night that consisted of a pan of lasagna. We ate 95% of it and put the pan/leftover in the refrigerator over night.
The next day, I realized I needed to clean this pan that still had an overwhelming amount of cold, rock hard lasagna residue. I didn't bother to scrape it into the garbage. I didn't bother to pre rinse or soak. I just put the filthy cold pan encrusted with hard, baked on lasagna residue+ into the Miele dishwasher. Put the tab in. Closed it. Started it....
I came back a couple hours later and it was like a Houdini magic trick. The pan AND the inside of the dishwasher was sparking clean, dry, and not a hint there was ever lasagna! I was sold on them!
It was the same, with my old 1987 Miele, but it has stopped doing that, a couple of years ago. It still washes most dishes clean, but the days, of using it like a trashbin are unfortunately over. The washpump is slowly starting to wear out.
A gloriously nerdy video. I've just ordered this dishwasher and I'm now stupidly excited about using it. Thank you.
I'm a nerd and proud.
YOU WONT REGRET IT
Great video. I have this dishwasher and I bought this direct from Miele, as I live in the same town as uk headquarters (and factory outlet). Current UK price is £659 for cleansteel. What I wanted to say though is about Miele delivery and installation. If they cannot fit aqua stop through gap, and make it connect, they will not connect it. They will either leave you to connect, or take the machine back. They are not specialist plumbers, and as such the only tool they came with was a flat head screwdriver for the jubilee clip. Luckily, it was just able to be connected, but others should be aware. For note on the outlet, I managed to pick up the clean steel model, in a grade B3, for £329.50, including delivery, install and old appliance disposal.
My dishwasher and load it how I like is a sentence I couldn’t agree more with than I already do. In my words your dishwasher your right to load your way. I bet some would complain how I load mine but like you I will load it my way regardless of who thinks otherwise.
Found this video because I've just ordered one and checking it out. I used to sell this sort of stuff, and have had a Miele washing machine for years but had a Bosch dishwasher. After fifteen years it is getting a bit tired hence ordering this Miele.
A couple of points re the aquastop. First check which way up they have to be. Several high end manufacturers fit these safety devices but often they can be fitted vertically as you have it or horizontally with the lumpy bit hanging down but they must not be fitted with the lumpy bit on top. Check the instructions carefully. RE the extension pipe an alternative is to buy a self tapping tap. You bolt it over the cold water pipe and then screw the fitting in and it cuts a hole in the pipe. You don't even have to turn the water supply off. In your situation it looked like there would be plenty of space on your cold water pipe to fit one of these taps and you wouldn't then need the extension pipe.
The aquastop BTW cannot be built into the machine. It is designed to cut the water supply in case of any leak, even if the hose was accidentally cut. If the aquastop was in the machine it wouldn't be able to cut the supply to the hose.
Another excellent feature Miele dishwashers have, and I checked this model still has it, is that when you remove the filter (at 6 min 20 seconds) you can see the bit sticking out on the left which is the non return valve. That is held in with a clip and can be removed easily by hand giving you access to the valve and the water pump blades, which means if any blockage happens and the machine isn't draining you can unblock it yourself in minutes.
All I have to do now is wait for mine to arrive....
Me too, can you tell what is your impression after 9 months?
very interesting demo. Being from the US we don't get some of the same features on any dishwashers like the auto settings or the salt containers. and one of the things we have here by building code is that all dishwashers are hooked to hot water inlets only. but props to a machine that kicks our crappy equipment's butts!
Great vid, but I hope you don't mind me adding a couple of points that might interest people looking to buy one of these:
1) It's worth knowing (especially if self-installing) that the machine has to be calibrated to your area's water hardness when installing. (If you set the hardness to below a certain setting, it actually deactivates the salt warning light. You can also deactivate the rinse aid warning light if you don't want to use rinse aid.) The hardness can be looked up on your local water board's website, and then there's a special combination of buttons (described in the user manual) to set the water softener accordingly.
2) Another feature that seems to get overlooked is that (again, with a special combination of buttons you'll find in the instructions) you can programme set the machine to always "remember" the last programme you used, instead of always reverting to ECO when you switch on. I only mention this because I've seen a few complaints on internet forums about the machine reverting to default every time you switch on, so a lot of people might not be aware of this feature.
You have too much time on your hands.
Please could you explain how to set the water hardness in the machine? I had no luck following the instructions on the manual.
We are going to go for the G4940. Thank you for the tips on installing as hubby is going to do this as usual. Forewarned is forearmed as they say. He now knows what to order to complete the job.
I'm leaning towards a Miele.
At Lowe's.
Do y'all recommend?
Thanks
I just used mine tonight for the first time . Had it set on auto and it took 1.5 hrs but boy did my pans and all come out super!! Although I had all them lights flashing that are not suppose to , have to look into it . Overall I really recommend this excellent machine .
"It's my dishwasher. I'll load it how I like." Hahahaha! I love that. As I've been know to critique how my husband loads, I had to laugh and tell my husband that he would love your commentary. He smiled. : ) Thanks for the thorough review. Here in the U.S.A. and just ordered a Miele dishwasher as our 20+ year KitchenAid DW finally died and I was looking for something that is built to last.
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A very helpful video re the Miele G4203 SC Active Dishwasher we are considering purchasing. Miele is one of the few remaining dishwasher companies still in private hands in Germany. We have been advised to purchase the German built and assembled model rather than the model assembled in Czechoslovakia of German components. Any comments or advice most welcomed.
Excellent review. Great refresher of my existing miele. Different model but initially went on to fix my tray height. Thank you!
This is the best review I've ever seen.
Just installed one of these. Really optimistic about it after some pretty horrible previous cheap dishwashers.
Great video. I appreciated watching how you load the dishwasher to see what I've been doing wrong! I'm truly amazed at how clean everything was! I wondered if this was possible, actually. My 4 year old Kenmore is useless. I thought it was down to how I loaded it, but based on what I just saw on your video I realize that in fact it's my machine, not me. The cutlery is all full of water marks, and some food debris. Bowls will not get clean no matter where they are placed. Pots and pans, forget about it. Glasses covered in water marks. So yeah, I'm getting rid of it. However, I just looked up what your machine would cost here in Canada and it's $1300!
In the US. Had a Miele for 8 years (stainless front) and a few months ago the motor died. Would be $1000 for parts & labor. Ended up replacing it with a newer Miele. It no longer has the aqua stop solenoid on the end of the water hose. All G6000 models now use a regular metal braided hose. The solenoid valve is now inside of the unit.
Yes, I got the entry level one (G4228) and it had a regular hose. Which is good because I would have had a bear of a time fitting that boxy thing through.
Just bought this one today. I was undecided between Bosch and Miele but I think Miele has an edge over Bosch on dishwashers, even on entry level models.
I hope I did the right choice.
To be honest, the price surprised me as a bargain
did it surprise you was it good?
AFAIK, the aqua-stop control has a housing box that can be gently pried apart, which reduces its bulk during installation. Obviously, it's meant to have that beige/grey housing outside during normal operation, but if the saw hole for the cabinetry seems too small to pass the device through, it may be worth trying the trick above. Often, the reduction in size is just enough to pass the control through - leaving the power cord & inlet hose till later - which can save having to hack another hole, or enlarge the existing hole.
The guy who installed my Miele dw did that it worked a treat and saved him time & effort!
Lem Tay That's handy to know! Thanks
Thanks for this review. Very informative and helpful to know what to look out for in later models and too... I loved the gleaming cutlery.
The cutlery tray is the best part of this dishwasher. I will always look for a separate tray when chosing any future machine.
Thanks. You help me a lot to choose the most suitable Miele dishwasher model for me.
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much for this valuable information mate. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺😃
I love your Denby plates.
thanks for the tip about the extension hose!
Excellent tip about the extension hose. Have a safety valve fitted on my Siemens dishwasher which fortunately fitted ok under my sink, but had it not... this would have worked well.
Great video. For me, first time dw buyer, it did help a lot understanding the different features. Thanks a lot!
Congratulations on your first dishwasher. Once you’ve owned one you will never want to be without it.
Nice video. Just one thing, ALWAYS fill the salt container. That machine has a built in water softener, that's what the salt is for. It's used to flush out the resin chamber during it's regeneration cycle. The salt doesn't soften the water, the water is soften by being passed through resin in the softener. Failing to add salt will produce poor results and eventually lead to needing the softener to be replaced.
If water in your area is soft (below 4 °dH) you don't need dishwasher salt.
@@YPO6 Obviously, I didn't think that needed saying. As an ex service engineer, you'd be amazed at how many people don't use salt as they've been told they don't need it.
Wow: very nice video and briliand results. Well, i am living in the CZECH REPUBLIC, as i was born there. We have got an Electrolux dish washer and the results are not so briliand. Thanks for your video... Sory, my english is not very well...
Your English is wonderful. :) I should get one of these European machines. Here in the Southwestern USA we have very hard water with a lot of calcium buildup. Euro dishwashers seem to handle hard water with lots of calcium much better.
Great video! The best so far. Thank you so much for the review!
Thank you for this amazing review, you are an amazing person.
Useful video, thanks. I've just replaced my G5500 with this one, and I miss the "rinse & hold" function. The G5500 has a 40 deg cycle, and when you press turbo is just rinses it for 12 minutes. Is there any way to program any of the programs to do this? What would you suggest?
I'm pretty sure, that the dishes seen in this video, still will get out perfectly clean, when selecting the 50C+turbo program. It still washes at a longer amount of time than with my very old G522 from 1987 with this program, instead of the 1 hour program with mine. I think it is quite rediculous to have an intensive program of 70 degrees, which actually takes 2,5 hours to finish the program. That's quite a loss of time, in case you need less time, for reusing your stuff, especially, when having guests over at parties. It possibly costs more electricity too. When I ever need to buy a new dishwasher, I will examine the possible programs, and decide on that, what to buy. On the other hand, I have used several more modern dishwashers while on vacation in apartments, and they all have quite the same programs, as shown in this video. That is quite a pity. But understandable too, as all dishwasher-manufacturers, want to sell their stuff, so they need to have something to fight to keep their prominent status on the market. Especially with brands like Miele, Bosch, Siemens. So it is us, the customers, who must pay the price for their wars. 😅
Superb video. I'm sold! :)
Thanks
Wonderful video. Really professional! Congratulations! Very helpful.
Thanks.
Nice video; very informative! Try to avoid opening the handle abrupt because it is made of plastic it has a tendency to snap like mine. Thanks
My handle is fine and the machine is still going strong since I made this video. I would get another Miele dishwasher, but probably go for a more expensive model.
Thank you for the informative video! How often do you have to clean out the filter basket, since this dishwasher does not have a self-cleaning filter or food grinder built into it? Three years into ownership of your Miele, are you still happy with its performance?
Thankyou for the video. Could you tell me the measurement of the bottom rack?
I just bought this dishwasher yesterday. Good video, thanks .... except for the lack of thread tape on the hose fittings ...
I have plumbed in dozens of washing machines and dishwashers without using tape. I assume you are talking about PTFE tape.
muzzgit You should not use PTFE tape on compression fittings, including appliance hoses. The seal is made by a rubber washer being compressed between two surfaces, not by watertight threads. PTFE tape may mask a leaking washer, or may cause unintentional overtightening. Hand tight is all that is required.
It would be nice to do an ASMR video of this dishwasher running.
great demostration!
Roger, I just brought a miele G4620 SC alas it’s a slimeline, I can’t wait to load her up......brought it through AO.com
Thanks for this great explanation. I was so confused with my new machine fixed in the apartment. Also I wasn't much sure which detergent I should be buying. This is pretty clear. Can I know that I could use liquid dishwasher instead of tablets. Could you recommend me a good brand you have bought here. Thanks.
Yes you can use a liquid detergent providing it is for dishwashers. Ordinary washing up liquid would foam up too much. I don’t have a specific recommendation but I tend to use eco friendly tablets in my dishwasher.
@@ibaisaic thank you so much for the response.
Nice review, great job!!!
Very nice and practical dishwasher.
And not a phallic shape in sight.
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing this video.
It's very useful video,thank you.
thanks for the video, could you please tell me the name of the product you bought from amazon to plumb in your dishwasher, as I have on order the same machine and will have the same problem as you did.thank you
This is the one I purchased. amzn.eu/d/hB3Kofj
@@ibaisaic ,
Thx!😘
I just watching the video again and i have one question: the small pan, you say you leave it out, was a main part of a second steamer. Am i right?? Can you remember?
Thank you for this video. It is so helpful! We have a model similar to this (4227SCU) coming at the end of this week. I also notice that we have the same Denby Linen dishes that you have. I am curious about loading the bowls. I notice that you have the wide flat pasta bowls - we have those too. We like to use them for big dinner salads. When you load those bowls, do you load them on every tine, or do you find that skipping a tine is necessary for the water to reach the inside of the bowls?
I tend to cram as much into the dishwasher as I can fit and only on a few occasions have I had to rewash anything, but that may be more to do with my choice of detergent than the machine itself. I normally leave a bigger gap between the pasta bowls than the dinner plates to ensure the water gets to them. Everyone's dishes are different and it may take you a few loads before you work out what should go where for best results.
love it so much
Hi..should all washed items be squeaky dry.. in all programs? Or only when using the intensive program?
My dad doesn't load the dishwasher at once cuz were waiting for more dishes so we just load half and we don't turn it on until there are too many dishes!!!
Hello,
Can i ask if the soap dispenser on the Miele dishwasher is meant to jut out a little on the inner end (towards the rinsaid compartment) when closed shut? I want to buy a Miele dishwasher, but the soap dispenser in the model that I want butts out slightly towards the inner end.
Is this normal for it to be this way ?
Great video. Informative and thorough. One question: how does one change the water hardness on this? It’s been used once but we want to change the hardness applied the first time. Have read the manual, but Miele’s official instruction makes no sense. Your knowledge seems more comprehensive than theirs ! Help!
Sorry, I have never tried to adjust mine as I have fairly soft water. I will have to dig out my instructions and see if I can make sense of them.
Hi! Does this dishwasher dry the vessel?
I want to buy the new Miele g7100 series. It's 975 pounds. The 4203 is 675 pounds. What do you think? Is it worth the difference?
Hi. I was watching your review as I have basically the same dishwasher (Canadian version) and have been having some issues with loading it. Thanks for the great demo. Could you possibly tell me where you purchased the turquoise mug with the dogs on it? My daughter and I were watching your review together and both became quite distracted by the mug. Thanks!
The mugs were purchased from Asda who are owned by Walmart, but I doubt you'll find them in Canada.
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Thanx very much just a question is it 12 place setting or 14 place setting dishwasher ..thx in advance.
13 place settings
@@ibaisaic thax alot ..i hvnt heard of this option before 😊😊
New sub your videos are you formative you are a natural! I love Leeds as well that won me over!! quick question I checked my water hardness and it said moderately soft do I still need to add salt water many thanks
If you use tablets with a salt function, then you don't have to, but personally even though my water is soft, I like to use salt. If you don't add salt, the refill indicator will be on all the time, though you can deactivate it. It tells you how to do this in the instruction book.
Cool 😎 miele dishwasher Why Does it have a plastic spray arm the botom is metall the upper spray arm sould be metall too.
There's no Refresh/Rinse program (the one you use whenever the machine is not full until it will be full) on the Miele machines I wonder?
No, there is no rinse hold feature on this model which is something I miss.
Just bought Miele dishwasher G4203 sc I’m getting F13 red light can help with it pls
Great video
Have you tried Finish products and in particular Finish tablets , since I am using Finish Classic and Quantum max and Still I have white spots on glasses and I am using Rinse Aid, and adjusted the salt level. Have you got such experience! Please advice.The plates however are clean - spotless, could it be that I unload the dishes right after the machine is off, or it is not this. Thank you!
I never use Finish as the products are made by a company that test on animals. I use either Astonish or Ecozone tablets and Ecozone rinse aid. I normally leave the items for at least half an hour before unloading them.
@@ibaisaic do you try to open the door as soon as possible after it finishes while they sit for that half hour? or do you leave it with door closed? manual says open door but wondering your experience in achieving best dry and least water marks. Thanks sensational video! 10/10
The on/off button on my Miele G 4203 is slightly pushed inwards/deeper in the main body than the other buttons. It works perfectly for now but I am not shure how it's longevity will be. Should I ask for a replacement or a 70 £ discount?
It's unlikely Miele will replace the dishwasher or give you a discount. They will probably arrange for an engineer to come out and look at it.
ibaisaic I got those offers from my local technology store. It wasn't only the button which was faulty, but also the sideplade which had a small dent from shipping. Really nice of them but I don't know which offer to choose. I don't mind the dent because it will not be visible when it's installed.
Is the dishwasher still working good for you? Just ordered my G6000 and I'm excited to get it!
Yes, it is still working and gets used every day.
@@ibaisaic Sounds great! Your two videos on the Miele are the most informative I've found so far. Would like to see an updated one, on maybe some tips and tricks when it comes to loading, choosing the cycle and detergent etc. Just a suggestion though!
drain hose should be looped up higher man or as water goes down from sink some can go into the dishwasher drain that would be unintended
If the auto mode senses that the wash is still dirty after the first rinse, how can it keep washing if it has already used and melted the washing tablet?
The detergent isn't released until the main wash.
Thank you.
What is the shortest washing mode. How many minutes>?
The glassware programme with turbo mode selected is the shortest programme at 54 minutes.
what program do like to use most, and how often is it on a week.
Probably the 50 degree program and the 75 degree one occasionally. It goes on every day.
ibaisaic do you use the turbo often? I just received this dishwasher today but we can do several loads a day so three hours is quite long. Will we get good results with 50° turbo?
water doesnt drain why?
Hi which Meile models have a rotating spray arm on the top of the drum? Most dishwashers only have a lower and middle arm with a less efficient water distribution from the top down. Thanks
This is the base model, so I expect all the models that have a cutlery tray at the top will have a third spray arm. Miele's website would be the best place to check.
Thank you sir
Great video, thanks. Could anyone tell me if this dishwasher has a quick 30 (or 40 ish) min general use cycle? Thanks.
@Ferbeldeyberb not this model, higher ranges does.
Hi Roger I am thinking about buying this, after a year of ownership, if you had the option would you still buy this or something else?
I probably wouldn't buy this particular model, but I would go for another Miele. I bought this for just over £300 which is a very good price, but it seems to have gone up somewhat since then. I love the cutlery tray and would always look for a dishwasher with that feature, but I think I would spend a bit more and get a quieter machine with a few more refinements.
Thanks Roger, I will continue looking. I also want the cutlery tray rather than the basket..basket is such a faff and takes up far too much room. Think it will be either a Miele or Bosch., at the moment I have a counter top dishwasher which is good but just too small as you can imagine!
Please can you confirm the extension hose supplier link through Amazon? Many thanks.
This is the one I purchased.
Link: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0026MT4AC
Many thanks. Lorna
I have a Siemens dishwasher that I am looking to replace. I want a dishwasher that will do a pre-rinse then automatically go on to the main wash. Mine doesn't. :-(
The Miele does a pre rinse but not on every programme.
Thank you.
It would've been nice if you recorded the sound of the wash action.
I save treats like that for my subscribers.
When im adding rinse aid my dad says enough rinse aid cuz im not allowed to fill it to the MAX!!!!
You got this for well under £400? It's £640 now in currys...
You should put a really dirty Dyson filter in there and see what happens
It could melt
what program do you use most
Amazon? Could have got one in toolstation same day for fraction of cost.
I couldn’t buy what I needed in Toolstation then and you can’t now. A regular dishwasher or washing machine hose does not fit this Miele machine.
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I hope this model doesn't leave food residue on the pots, my Beko does it!
With your nickname you should not be using a Beko.
Does it dry plastics well?
Pretty well, though some water is left on the bottom of my mugs.
What about plastic plates/cups or Tupperware. Are These dried properly?
They dry well on the 50 and 75 degree washes but on eco there may be a bit of water left if you take them out straight away. This dishwasher is discontinued now anyway, so I can’t comment on the newer models. This one is nearly six years old and it still works fine.
My dishwasher is not always loaded well!!!!
Merci
does your per wash work all the time on auto & other programs forget the 75 program as it works on mine every time but the pre wash is so hit and miss with my g4203. when on auto and empty it pre washes every time (EMPTY) put a full load in and it doesn't plus the last two washes on (auto) start time 1:54 & pre wash worked these times then 20mins in to wash cycle the dishwasher time went to 2:10 so that's a 2:40 cycle this is feed by a combi boiler 3ft away plus only had 8 tea cups. can you confirm if your dishwasher pre washes on the programmes it say it should in booklet pleaseI think mine faulty
Everything looks dry. Im pretty surprised because it has no heating element.
i love it
Our fully integrated Miele dishwasher stopped working and Miele wanted almost 1k to fix it. I expect that the machine should
last a lot longer. The reputation and quality for lasting 20 years is obviously false advertising and a bunch of baloney. You can’t get any deals on new machines and only Miele can fix them at absorbent prices. Very unhappy with their product and attitude
And a dishwasher needs less water than washing your dishes by hand.
Can you tell me what height you have for things on the top rack if you have the large Denby plates in the bottom? Would there be room for a 23cm high water bottle?