Literally from episode one with as someone with severe BPD, anxiety, depression, all professionally diagnosed, he really really does portray BPD very well. But he definitely has it. It is one of the worst mental health disorders one can experience. Especially the terrible fear of abandonment, hating yourself, the suicidal ideation and sometimes attempts. It is awful. If you or someone you know think you have BPD or traits please get help and seek treatment. It is awful to go it alone.
I think I have it and have an appointment tomorrow for it. If I find out I’ll have it I’ll probably look into PAS, I don’t want to live this way anymore.
I'm late to the party but in the past, I've told my soon-to-be wife that I see myself in Bojack but at first I couldn't tell really why. She recently noticed that I have some BPD symptoms. Two weeks ago, I got an official diagnosis of it. She sent me a link to a tumblr article that was simply titled "Bojack has BPD"
i will always stand by that diane is bojacks fp, he always calls her when he has a lot of heavy emotions. he feels like he needs her attention and validation all the time. in s1 when he says “i need you to tell me that i’m good” to her, that couldn’t have come from anyone else only diane to have it mean anything to him, when she can’t say it, he spends the beginning of the whole next season trying to be “good” and improving himself (i think this was really just to show diane that he can be a good person) he also gets Very jealous when people get close with her. he’ll spilt on her sometimes when he feels like he’s being abandoned by her, or he finds someone else to give him attention. in s1 he has a whole plot of trying to stop diane and mrpeanut butter from getting married and break up. he kisses her once but other than that he never really shows any type of strong romantic or sexual attraction to diane, like he never talks about actually getting in a relationship with her or getting married, or even just having a sexual relationship with her. he just doesn’t want her marrying someone cause it means she cares about someone else more, and that is really what upsets bojack, i think him kissing her was really a last resort to get her closer with him. i think that whole story just shows how he wants to be the one who gets her most attention. he will always call diane, no matter where their at in their relationship, cause he doesn’t need her helping him he just needs her there. like in view from halfway down, that call with diane, when he relized she wasn’t in la to help him, they just talk and have normal small talk. bojack ends up surviving and not drowning. i think this kinda shows how much he depends on diane, literally life or death. she didn’t have to be there and drag him out of the pool, he just needed to hear her and talk to her (i also think bojack is diane’s fp as well for some reasons, that’s a whole other thing, but i think that’s a part of why their relationship is so toxic cause they are both each others fp), i have diagnosed bpd and this is FULLY what i feel like with my fp
I just want to say thank you because this is exactly my perspective on the both of them due to personal experience and I was really hoping that someone would say this.
@@reoijFavorite Person behavior. People with BPD, including myself, fear abandonment and death more than anything else, and when someone becomes your favorite person, you start to obsess and fear that they're gonna abandon you in one way or another, you fear something terrible will happen to them or that they will stop loving you and eventually the Borderline cannot handle being away from that person and become completely emotionally dependant on them. My FP is my wife, I'm on a waiting list for a very intense therapy program because we both see it's causing a lot of stress for both of us. Luckily, communication is key when it comes to BPD and we have a lot of it.
Thank you for recognising, that Bojack has BPD, instead of Depression. However BPD, can also have other disorders mixed in with bpd, like, Anxiety, PTSD, C-PTSD, Eating Disorders, and more. causing BPD to be more complicated. I related to bojack. More then the other characters throughout the whole show. And I was diagnosed with BPD, 3 years ago. This disorder is very real. And people should be more aware of it. It's a condition that is extremely hard for everyone including the sufferer. I can't believe I relate to a cartoon horse-man fictional character. More than anyone in real life. :(
I also suffer from bpd, and bojack horseman is the most relatable character I have ever seen. I felt like I learned a lot about myself watching the entire series.
Im diagnosed with BPD and while watching Bojack i cried in alot of scenes because of how strongly i saw myself in him, thank you for this video, really informative.
Thanks for doing video on this... a lot of people in my opinion got bojack sooo wrong. I see a lot of videos stating he’s a narcissist but I never saw him that way... he’s got borderline personality disorder. It drove my crazy seeing those videos about him being a narcissist when there are classic signs of BPD.
@@HagelBiscut no they can't? The whole borderline fear of "caring what other people think" too the point you think they will abandon you vus you think they don't like you anymore would never apply to a person with npd? They have allot of contradictory symptoms, people with bpd could ACT narcissistic and maybe have a trait or 2 (like we all do) but you defently cant have both..
Nice video. just a bit of clarification, wanda broke up with bojack because she couldn't deal with his negativity, and him being with Diane, who crashed at their place for a couple of months showed his true color. it was not because of the autoerotic asphyxiation episode, this is actually the episode when they said i love you to each other.
I always related to Bojack and it was my favorite show when it was on, and still is really although I don't watch it anymore. With that said, I only got diagnosed with BPD a few weeks ago, and it definitely makes sense looking back to see that he had it as well. No wonder this show resonated with me so hard and so many people I know around me just don't get the appeal.
My mom started treating me really different when I was dx with bpd around 2 years ago. I tried to get her to watch this show to understand how I felt and she didn't care enough to watch more than like 2 episodes. I'm gonna send her this video in hope she'll actually watch it, so thank you.
wonder how you'll doing now. Suggest distancing yourself from her. She's exactly the reason you have bpd to begin with, here again she's only showing her tendencies to neglect and avoid accountability, responibility and productive help or even understanding. Hope you didn't get dragged down into trying to make her understand, when she clearly didn't want to. I've been through exactly same shit. It's painful, becasue we always want empathy from our abusers, this is also actually one of the sources of desire for revange. But often it's healthier to just cut yourself off from any impact they have on you, don't rely on both positives and negatives you get from your abusers (even if only past abusers, if they're not really invested in owning up to their shit and being helpful). Wish you well, stay strong and respect yourself. I know that loving yourself is too much for now, but acting with respect is achievable, no matter how you feel about yourself. So hold onto it
Every time I try to tell someone to watch bojack, they have a hard time trying to watch it, I get it it took me 3 tries to watch this show. Today, I can't believe it took me 3 tries I should have watched right away. What I say about it is , is not my favourite show, is definitely in my top 5 but is definitely the best show I've ever seen, from story, characters, the issues, is the most accurate depiction of people and society. Bojack makes you feel things even if you're cold you still feel things
I would suggest telling your mom to watch crazy ex girlfriend is a really good depiction of BPD, probably even better than Bojack in that sense and that's saying something (just a different approach I think), maybe that would be a easier show for her to watch
Personally as much as i relate to having BPD with Bojack, the show can really bring out the toxic parts of my BPD and I have to step away from the show these days and remind myself, just cause I relate to him doesn't mean i should aspire to be him cause he's the worst parts of BPD and what he's done really was messed up.
I was thinking the same although the emotional instability, the excessive anger and fear of abandonment are not so active as the other traits. But the impulsive one makes a perfect score and that's scary. Greetings from Bulgaria and please, excuse my English... 😅
Fun fact: bpd is the only disorder in the dsm-5 for which one of the diagnostic criteria is repeated self mutilating/suicidal behaviors. (I have bpd lmao)
I got diagnosed some days ago, and I decided to continue bojack after I broke up with my partner, and when I saw the episode with the auto-erotic asphyxiation, I immediately knew
@@droptherapy2085 when you turn 18 you should get that checked out. i‘m 18 now but i‘m too uncomfortable to tell someone this because i feel weird and like i‘m attention seeking when i say i think i have bpd to someone
I wouldn't go as far as saying he definitely has BPD, given that I don't know the intent behind the character creation/development. I will say that as a person with BPD, he's the most relatable character I've ever found.
He is very borderline, but I always thought he's bipolar, not just depressed. Reason for that is, that Bojack has a few manic episodes, depressed episodes and he also hallucinates at times. It's comorbid, but I feel like does go over peoples heads. Bojack has a mood disorder, everyone relates to him because he's depressed, but this is my whole issue with the show, they are good at representing depression, but none of the other mental issues or disorders are portrayed as well as depression is, and mental health issues don't only present themselves as depression. They're very sloppy with PTSD.
@@jamieenoshima5147 ther eis a portionnthat experiences psychosis, and I knew about that, but I also was of the opinion that when someone experiences hallucinations with BPD, it is indicative of a comorbid psychotic disorder alongside bpd, not necessarily a common symptom of bpd. Delusions are common, but I don't normally assume that someone who diagnosed BPD is also someone who has halucinated before. I still think Bojack in the show presents as bipolar first and comorbidity with borderline personality disorder second. At the very least, I think we can agree that he is not simply depressed...depression can look very different in many different people and Bojack fits the conditions for a person that could develop bpd, given his traumatic past, so to me, he is definitely not just depressed.
Literally from episode one with as someone with severe BPD, anxiety, depression, all professionally diagnosed, he really really does portray BPD very well. But he definitely has it. It is one of the worst mental health disorders one can experience. Especially the terrible fear of abandonment, hating yourself, the suicidal ideation and sometimes attempts. It is awful. If you or someone you know think you have BPD or traits please get help and seek treatment. It is awful to go it alone.
I wouldn't wish this shit on my worst enemy.
Hey would you like to be friends
@@Hollywood113807 hey would you like to be friends
I think I have it and have an appointment tomorrow for it. If I find out I’ll have it I’ll probably look into PAS, I don’t want to live this way anymore.
As a person with BPD I find some of the things he says and goes through so relatable.
i was suspecting he has bpd ever since i began watching the series... i have it and i see a lot of myself in bojack. thank you for this video
Hey would you like to be friends
I'm late to the party but in the past, I've told my soon-to-be wife that I see myself in Bojack but at first I couldn't tell really why. She recently noticed that I have some BPD symptoms. Two weeks ago, I got an official diagnosis of it.
She sent me a link to a tumblr article that was simply titled "Bojack has BPD"
i will always stand by that diane is bojacks fp, he always calls her when he has a lot of heavy emotions. he feels like he needs her attention and validation all the time. in s1 when he says “i need you to tell me that i’m good” to her, that couldn’t have come from anyone else only diane to have it mean anything to him, when she can’t say it, he spends the beginning of the whole next season trying to be “good” and improving himself (i think this was really just to show diane that he can be a good person) he also gets Very jealous when people get close with her. he’ll spilt on her sometimes when he feels like he’s being abandoned by her, or he finds someone else to give him attention. in s1 he has a whole plot of trying to stop diane and mrpeanut butter from getting married and break up. he kisses her once but other than that he never really shows any type of strong romantic or sexual attraction to diane, like he never talks about actually getting in a relationship with her or getting married, or even just having a sexual relationship with her. he just doesn’t want her marrying someone cause it means she cares about someone else more, and that is really what upsets bojack, i think him kissing her was really a last resort to get her closer with him. i think that whole story just shows how he wants to be the one who gets her most attention. he will always call diane, no matter where their at in their relationship, cause he doesn’t need her helping him he just needs her there. like in view from halfway down, that call with diane, when he relized she wasn’t in la to help him, they just talk and have normal small talk. bojack ends up surviving and not drowning. i think this kinda shows how much he depends on diane, literally life or death. she didn’t have to be there and drag him out of the pool, he just needed to hear her and talk to her (i also think bojack is diane’s fp as well for some reasons, that’s a whole other thing, but i think that’s a part of why their relationship is so toxic cause they are both each others fp), i have diagnosed bpd and this is FULLY what i feel like with my fp
I just want to say thank you because this is exactly my perspective on the both of them due to personal experience and I was really hoping that someone would say this.
what is a fp?
favorite person @@reoij
@@reoijFavorite Person behavior. People with BPD, including myself, fear abandonment and death more than anything else, and when someone becomes your favorite person, you start to obsess and fear that they're gonna abandon you in one way or another, you fear something terrible will happen to them or that they will stop loving you and eventually the Borderline cannot handle being away from that person and become completely emotionally dependant on them. My FP is my wife, I'm on a waiting list for a very intense therapy program because we both see it's causing a lot of stress for both of us. Luckily, communication is key when it comes to BPD and we have a lot of it.
It’s crazy thinking about how different bojack would’ve turned out if he had a family that loved him and treated him like a person
Thank you for recognising, that Bojack has BPD, instead of Depression. However BPD, can also have other disorders mixed in with bpd, like, Anxiety, PTSD, C-PTSD, Eating Disorders, and more. causing BPD to be more complicated. I related to bojack. More then the other characters throughout the whole show. And I was diagnosed with BPD, 3 years ago. This disorder is very real. And people should be more aware of it. It's a condition that is extremely hard for everyone including the sufferer. I can't believe I relate to a cartoon horse-man fictional character. More than anyone in real life. :(
I also suffer from bpd, and bojack horseman is the most relatable character I have ever seen. I felt like I learned a lot about myself watching the entire series.
(In therapist's chair) So...have you ever seen a show called Bojack Horseman?
Im diagnosed with BPD and while watching Bojack i cried in alot of scenes because of how strongly i saw myself in him, thank you for this video, really informative.
Thanks for doing video on this... a lot of people in my opinion got bojack sooo wrong. I see a lot of videos stating he’s a narcissist but I never saw him that way... he’s got borderline personality disorder. It drove my crazy seeing those videos about him being a narcissist when there are classic signs of BPD.
Absolutely! 🤘
To be fair there aren't mutually exclusive. Someone could have BPD and NPD
@@HagelBiscut no they can't? The whole borderline fear of "caring what other people think" too the point you think they will abandon you vus you think they don't like you anymore would never apply to a person with npd? They have allot of contradictory symptoms, people with bpd could ACT narcissistic and maybe have a trait or 2 (like we all do) but you defently cant have both..
Plus he also showed some of the light psychotic symthoms that are part of bdp as well
@@duck_onYouDuxk I'm in a recovery group with some people who are diagnosed with both bpd and npd lmao
Nice video. just a bit of clarification, wanda broke up with bojack because she couldn't deal with his negativity, and him being with Diane, who crashed at their place for a couple of months showed his true color. it was not because of the autoerotic asphyxiation episode, this is actually the episode when they said i love you to each other.
I have bpd and I can agree he have bpd!
I always related to Bojack and it was my favorite show when it was on, and still is really although I don't watch it anymore. With that said, I only got diagnosed with BPD a few weeks ago, and it definitely makes sense looking back to see that he had it as well. No wonder this show resonated with me so hard and so many people I know around me just don't get the appeal.
My mom started treating me really different when I was dx with bpd around 2 years ago. I tried to get her to watch this show to understand how I felt and she didn't care enough to watch more than like 2 episodes. I'm gonna send her this video in hope she'll actually watch it, so thank you.
i was thinking of doing the sam
wonder how you'll doing now. Suggest distancing yourself from her. She's exactly the reason you have bpd to begin with, here again she's only showing her tendencies to neglect and avoid accountability, responibility and productive help or even understanding. Hope you didn't get dragged down into trying to make her understand, when she clearly didn't want to. I've been through exactly same shit. It's painful, becasue we always want empathy from our abusers, this is also actually one of the sources of desire for revange. But often it's healthier to just cut yourself off from any impact they have on you, don't rely on both positives and negatives you get from your abusers (even if only past abusers, if they're not really invested in owning up to their shit and being helpful). Wish you well, stay strong and respect yourself. I know that loving yourself is too much for now, but acting with respect is achievable, no matter how you feel about yourself. So hold onto it
Every time I try to tell someone to watch bojack, they have a hard time trying to watch it, I get it it took me 3 tries to watch this show. Today, I can't believe it took me 3 tries I should have watched right away. What I say about it is , is not my favourite show, is definitely in my top 5 but is definitely the best show I've ever seen, from story, characters, the issues, is the most accurate depiction of people and society. Bojack makes you feel things even if you're cold you still feel things
I would suggest telling your mom to watch crazy ex girlfriend is a really good depiction of BPD, probably even better than Bojack in that sense and that's saying something (just a different approach I think), maybe that would be a easier show for her to watch
As someone that has BPD, this is very accurate. I also relate to BoJack more than any other character. Great video - thanks for making it.
Personally as much as i relate to having BPD with Bojack, the show can really bring out the toxic parts of my BPD and I have to step away from the show these days and remind myself, just cause I relate to him doesn't mean i should aspire to be him cause he's the worst parts of BPD and what he's done really was messed up.
I was thinking the same although the emotional instability, the excessive anger and fear of abandonment are not so active as the other traits. But the impulsive one makes a perfect score and that's scary.
Greetings from Bulgaria and please, excuse my English... 😅
I'm a pwBPD. I've always suspected he was borderline from the start. I relate to him do much it's genuinely insane.
Badass
Personality
Disorder 😎
Fun fact: bpd is the only disorder in the dsm-5 for which one of the diagnostic criteria is repeated self mutilating/suicidal behaviors. (I have bpd lmao)
This is a really good, well-researched and informative video. Love it
I see so much of myself in bojack and often use the show to show people how my bpd affects me and feels for me
After watching many episodes Diane also displays symptoms of BPD too
she definitely does
How? You can explain me?
I got diagnosed some days ago, and I decided to continue bojack after I broke up with my partner, and when I saw the episode with the auto-erotic asphyxiation, I immediately knew
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15 products for someone with depression
Hahahahahahah oh no
i think i have bpd too but i‘m scared to confront it
I definitely have a lot of traits but I am under the age of 18 so I can't be diagnosed. The fun thing about this is that I turn 18 in ten months.
@@droptherapy2085 when you turn 18 you should get that checked out. i‘m 18 now but i‘m too uncomfortable to tell someone this because i feel weird and like i‘m attention seeking when i say i think i have bpd to someone
@@choisanscroptop7809yeah, sometimes I feel like even greeting someone is manipulative somehow
I knew for almost 2 years before the confirmation. And I can finally breath. 🌟
I was diagnosed at 17 after 4 years of issues, they're diagnosing earlier now
Informative and well done. Thank you for this.
But, I'm more BPD than a man? or I'm more man than BPD?
I wouldn't go as far as saying he definitely has BPD, given that I don't know the intent behind the character creation/development.
I will say that as a person with BPD, he's the most relatable character I've ever found.
He probably does, but hard to say those symptoms aren’t from drug use + other mental issues
very well done video !!
He is very borderline, but I always thought he's bipolar, not just depressed.
Reason for that is, that Bojack has a few manic episodes, depressed episodes and he also hallucinates at times. It's comorbid, but I feel like does go over peoples heads. Bojack has a mood disorder, everyone relates to him because he's depressed, but this is my whole issue with the show, they are good at representing depression, but none of the other mental issues or disorders are portrayed as well as depression is, and mental health issues don't only present themselves as depression. They're very sloppy with PTSD.
You can have mania and hallucinations with bpd?
@@jamieenoshima5147 Not that I'm aware of, but with bipolar you definitely can.
@corneliahanimann2173 Oh well you do with BPD as well. Mania very common.
@@jamieenoshima5147 ther eis a portionnthat experiences psychosis, and I knew about that, but I also was of the opinion that when someone experiences hallucinations with BPD, it is indicative of a comorbid psychotic disorder alongside bpd, not necessarily a common symptom of bpd. Delusions are common, but I don't normally assume that someone who diagnosed BPD is also someone who has halucinated before. I still think Bojack in the show presents as bipolar first and comorbidity with borderline personality disorder second. At the very least, I think we can agree that he is not simply depressed...depression can look very different in many different people and Bojack fits the conditions for a person that could develop bpd, given his traumatic past, so to me, he is definitely not just depressed.
@@corneliahanimann2173 Yeah I can agree to all that.
3:34 t- THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT!!
Im 28... And everything is worse than ever.
yes
what show is the clip at 0:55 from
Crazy ex girlfriend bojack and crazy ex girlfriend are probably the best depictions of mental health on tv. Highly recommend both
Where is the other clip from?
Crazy exgirlfriend Netflix
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Stay away from the loonies y’all
cool video
What is bpd
Why do you only have 14 subscribers? What the fuck
Duuude, spoiler warninnnggg!
character analysis will of course have spoilers😭
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bro the guy suffers from depression
BPD can be comorbdid with depression...
BPD is comorbdid with depression...
Depression, yes, but also bpd. Depression and addiction alone don't fully explain it.
Thats 100% more than depression.