Cheng Style BaguaZhang 8 turning palms(Eng sub)-Bát lão chưởng
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2013
- The Eight Turning Palms set is also called the Eight Old Palms. Here is a very short and easily learned form based on the eight mother positions where you essentially walk a circle with holding each of the primary positions for Cheng style Bagua. Demosntrated by Li Chun Ling one of Sun's top student, she gives very clear and straight forward explanation for each position and movement. We strongly suggest that people who might be serious about Bagua pick up a set like this or the Old Palms of Kang Ge Wu. It adds a real foundation to the rest of the palms you will learn later.
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How wonderfully well explained everything. My thanks to great master Li Chunling. Bagua zhang is the most extraordinary art I have ever seen. A cordial greeting from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The power appears to come up from the ground , through the arms and into the palms . The twisting of the waist and the turning of the palms makes this style very effective and elegant. When I want to understand how something works I go to the masters.
Having a background in kung fu myself I settled on this video
above the rest because I can see that she is the manual for this system . I first saw this system in all its grace and splendor in Grandmasters, and
I can see this student is the embodiment of this beautiful system. So this is my reference for understanding the foundation and postures of this art. She is also an incredible teacher , because I see she has a gift in explaining the movements and transitions quite well. Many thanks my dear for giving me a great understanding of how this system works and why it's so illusive and graceful. Ms. Li you are a credit to this fine art .
Mr ANH NGUEN, I appreciate all your sharings.Bravo.
Thank you for a great demonstration and the very detailed explanations. This video will give me plenty of material to try and learn this wonderful art. The instructor is fabulous. Thanks so much
Thank you for the beautiful Bagua. I use to train years ago...
Beautifull Li Chun Ling: many thanks!
Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.
Embraces.
Here I would like to thank our sister for her many years of dedicated training, and in sharing with us her insights in the practice of this heavenly boxing style. No matter how great our personal sacrifice in the study of this unique martial art, everyone of us needs all the help we can get. I am fortunate to study each of the four treasures of Chinese Boxing. Shaolin, Hsing Yi, Tai Chi, and Pa Kua. But speaking just for myself. It is the study of Pa Kua Chang which I find most challenging. I appreciate your efforts at educating us. Thank you.
Remove the darkness. Return the light. Renew the art.
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Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
Excellent instruction,,very interesting form,, your Teaching style is very easy to understand.thank you.
Great instructor and also very neat structure for a lesson, important questions getting answered here thank you
Thank you for demonstrating.
非常感谢
The BEST Pa-Kua and the best internet instruction I have ever seen. The subtitles are fine, especially for those with some background knowledge in this subject.
I am 68 years old, took lessons in many internal arts over a 40 year period, and I wish I could have learned from your Master.
八卦掌李春玲老师讲的太好了，讲解清晰，动作干净，准确，优美。真是学习八卦掌的好教材。
highway zuo 今年会出版两套简化版八卦掌，易学易练，不失风格和功效。
相信会打开八卦掌的新局面，让大众人人都可以习练，从中受益。
Awesome video. 👍 👍👍💯
I am a 3rd degree black belt and I have studied iron palm and budha's palm kungfu since I was 5 years old and I have to say this is perfect.
Keep up the good work. 😎👍
Sehr guter Unterricht für Bagua Zhang. Thank You.
This is the first training in Cheng style Ba Gua Zhang. Ding Shir This is also great if you just want to practice just Ba Gua Neigong. The next set would be the Mother Palms and then the 64. This are the original forms from Cheng Ting Hua. Master Sun is from the Cheng village and trained under CTH son and nephew. He also studied under another disciple of Cheng Ting Hua. Lily (Chungli) Li is a closed door disciple of Master Sun.
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Spot on!
Thank you, thank you & thank you for the gracious sharing of this elegant form slowed down with concise, coherent explanations. You have done a great service to the world of Chinese martial arts. Full extension of body movements promotes good health, slows aging.....
Yes, of course.
Embraces.
Very informative and helpful and Thanks 🙏
Thank you Master Minh Ng for sharing your excellent and perfected Baguazhang Skills! Man Thabata Nabata (Consistancy brings forth fruits) (Perfection) So much perfection I see in your demonstrations! 😍🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹🌼🌹👍🍵🍇🍇🍵
Beautiful scenery.
Muy bueno, gracias!!!
great. thank you for sharing
Спасибо!
Thank you Lily
thanks for sharing
спасибо мастер)
Thank you
Thanks you master
i like this style
Awesome!
are there videos of the applications?
Im in love with her lol
Palms are always ready to strike and no need for padding as we are born with Padding on are Palms and Heels
Trying to master this, but feels like I'm just going in circles.
Mr Anh Nguyen all the BaguaZhang material is amazing, I don't want to bother but I have a doubt in this video, could you explain me which is the trigram for each palm? Thanks again.
if you want to know about Baguazhang go here:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagua.
and here:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baguazhang
Thanks for the information
The diagrams matching the palm is a new interpretation and really is not the original the 8 Trigrams ties to the whole art of Ba Gua Zhang. The original name of the art was Turning Palm because of the spiraling.
+Ziriako De Jesus This video seems to be more the eight basic postures. There is another video here on youtube, called Bát mẫu chưởng, that has the Cheng Style Eight Basic Palm Changes. The usual ordering is 1. Heaven(Single Palm Change) 2. Earth(Double Palm Change) 3. Wind 4. Thunder 5. Fire 6. Water 7. Mountain 8. Lake. So the first 4 are the Yang palm changes except+ Double Palm Change is Yin, then it finishes with the last three are Yin. There are other styles that that just go through the post-heaven arrangement of the Bagua in a circular pattern; Heaven, Water, Mountain, Thunder, Wind, Fire, Earth, Lake.
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is this useful for combat or is the like tai chi for fitness?
Both taijiquan and baguazhang, when used in applications instead of forms, are fully capable of performing locks, throws, strikes, and so on. However, fighting applications won't look like the clean, smooth, uniform motion of a form exercise set. The use of oblique entry angles and core strength make for a less direct force-on-force type of fighting, with more use of deflection.
It's just like going to the gun range -- real opponents aren't highlit in fluorescent lines with zones marked for point values, nor present themselves in brightly lit firing lanes.
Most "bagua applications" or "tai chi applications" videos you'll find online are in instructional settings, so they're slowing it down to step-by-step actions so that the students or audience can see what's going on. There's always the question: Can this guy do this move at full speed in a real fighting situation? As you gain experience in your own training and body mechanics, you can learn to identify when someone has good use of core strength, weight distribution, and sensitivity in reading an opponent's movements or weight.
Look at videos like Hai Yang's applications: /watch?v=mvt7D4OfunU
You can see how the instructor has a much more solid understanding of the movement, while his students tend to carry their weight too high (hips up) and move out of sync with their limbs and body, and no one is actually throwing the opponent hard enough to hurt each other.
Dakao Do r u a practitioner of bagua? It seems too hard to learn myself from watching these videos. However I learnt the forms of wing chung, choy lee fut, dragon style, chow gar mantis by watching video. I know I won't get the full just of it, but is fun to learn different style and theories
I've only trained the single and double palm changes, and their use in drills and sparring. Ditto for a bit of Yang style taijiquan, Northern Mantis, Hung Gar, and some drills in Wing Tsun -- all over the course of 9 years. I'd say that teaching approaches for Wing Tsun tend to significantly differ from mantis, taiji, and bagua. My main systems are German and Italian sword, polearm, dagger, and wrestling, so this is all just cross-training. But body mechanics are pretty universal no matter the system or teaching method -- sometimes you just have to look a little harder to see the common lessons.
You really need to find at least a few instructors to get you started, as well as physically competent training partners to practice with. When first learning physical skills at all, the instructor's approach and teaching style are more important than the martial art system she or he teaches.
Videos alone will only help provide alternate training ideas once you already have a solid foundation in movements and at least intermediate practice in reading opponents and partners. That foundation took about 5-7 years for me. Training in sports also greatly helped -- parkour specifically for me.
Example of bagua/taiji application: In a rapier bout with a left-handed guy who trains longsword, sport fencing, and jujitsu, he set me up with a thrust to my inside line. When I parried, it brought my shoulder forward to my left in line with my lead right leg and hip. This let him pass and enter with his right arm to clothesline and hip throw me. I missed the counter and went down.
The second time we got into a similar set-up, I shot my hips back to defend against his leg and hip, hit him with my left hook punch to his right kidney, which straightened him up from flinching, and that gave me the entry to obliquely cut my right hip in as I scissored my arms up and down (my right hand and sword crossguard up into his chin, my left hand down against his tailbone), letting me use a hip throw against him. The action is often shown as a taiji defense of the body's centerline or bagua Hide Flower under Leaf.
Dakao Do I heard the bagua/taichi emphasize on the hip (or tail bone) and crotch, their force is generated by the crotch. It's completely different way of generating forces from normal muscular power, I heard they train the ne jin, which is the internal way of generating power and forces instead of external power
Why do people go on about the combat side,A lot of people do this for well being and meditation too ,
She is so good! but i believe she does not posses bones XD
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Boxe du chat ???
She's a little cutey isn't she…??
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@@lichunling2251 gorgeous
Quite a good video but the subtitles are incomprehensible. We'd be better off without them.
Keep the fingers together, bend your knees and walk heel-to-toe. WTF?
Try it and then you will understand its power. You can't learn just by watching.
it would be great if it had martial applications :(
tourist trap
No power being generated. Palm thrust just using the shoulder, no rooting, body alignment, coiling energy. This is not Baguazhang... it’s Bagua dance. Useless for fighting and weak. Master Cheng was a wrestler and very strong, not a look pretty martial artist.
It might have been a practical martial art in the beginning but not now... complete bullshito now.
Stop watching Jake Mace. I know he shows up every time you search baguazhang on youtube, but use a bit of intuition when it comes to poseurs and fakes. Baguazhang is just as practical as tai chi; don't be baited by bullshit teachers.
Now I'm curious what does your practical martial art look like? From here it lacks humility and wisdom.
The video's only useful if you're Chinese. Find a translator who has a decent grasp of English!
Eight ways invincible thunder palms
Thank you
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