(UPDATE VIDEO IS OUT) The Creality Nebula Pad kind of SUCKS, I think? - Unboxing, setup and testing
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2023
- The Creality Nebula Pad might not be an accessory you want to buy, but let's assume you're like me and already bought one. Now you want to get it set up? Well join me, as I set it up, run into problems, and eventually kind of succeed. Spoiler: it doesn't work with most printers!
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UPDATE: New video coming soon, I was able to get this device working but it was not without some serious tinkering. You'll need root SSH access, a custom firmware, and to set up fluidd and mainsail. New video coming soon!
I'm really looking forward to your video, I faced the same problem myself
What’s the default SSH username and password? I’ve tried getting in, but I don’t see what the defaults are and my guesses have so far all been wrong
@@kbyethx I wish I knew, I had to use a custom firmware that replaced the SSH login to get it working
Créality has announced an update for the nebula pad, which will support the sprite extruder, for the end of February.
"Dear Customer
Thank you for contacting Creality customer support.
Sorry, Nebula Screen does not currently support changing the E-step. We will update the firmware by the end of February to support it."
@@kbyethx Try user/pass of creality/creality. That's what it is on the Sonic Pad.
I was given this info from Creality
I can provide you with comprehensive instructions to guide you through the process:
1. Gather Information:
Manual and Firmware: Refer to the Nebula pad's user manual and online resources for specific instructions and compatible firmware versions.
Extruder Specifications: Gather details about your direct drive extruder, including model, voltage, and any necessary wiring diagrams.
2. Access Firmware Settings:
Connect to Nebula Pad: Connect your computer to the Nebula pad using the appropriate method (USB, Wi-Fi, etc.).
Open Firmware Interface: Use the recommended software or web interface to access the firmware settings.
3. Modify Configuration:
Extruder Type: Locate the setting for extruder type and change it to "Direct Drive."
Steps per Unit: Adjust the steps per unit value for the extruder stepper motor according to your extruder's specifications. This ensures accurate filament movement.
Retraction Settings: Configure retraction settings to prevent oozing and stringing, which are common with direct drive extruders. Adjust retraction distance, speed, and prime speed as needed.
Motor Current: Set the correct motor current for your direct drive extruder's stepper motor.
Other Relevant Settings: Modify any other settings as recommended for your specific extruder model and setup.
4. Save and Upload:
Save Changes: Save the modified firmware configuration.
Upload Firmware: Upload the updated firmware to the Nebula pad, following the manufacturer's instructions.
5. Calibration:
Calibrate Extruder: After updating the firmware, perform essential calibration steps, including:
E-step calibration to ensure accurate filament extrusion
Z-offset calibration to fine-tune the distance between the nozzle and the print bed
I’m using the Nebula pad that came stock with my Ender-3 V3 KE and the experience has absolutely been a lot better than shown here, thankfully. The UI’s kind of slow, but that’s fine. I like the Creality Cloud integration. It’s basic, but simple and works.
Just bought my first 3d printer and haven't even set it up and while looking at other things saw this kit and almost ordered it but decided to see if it was worth it and other than unboxing videos your is the first about it. Im glad I waited you may have saved me $ otherwise could've overpaid for a camera,Ill check back to see if Creality fixes issues thanks for the video
I’ve got some updates coming for this one, and if you don’t mind some tinkering and using terminal commands you can get it running beautifully with a web interface
I am searching but i don't find a kit with g-sensor, they only promotion camera and pad
Very interesting, I wonder if they are changing what’s included in the box. For what it’s worth I don’t know that the G sensor does much, especially if you install custom firmware, it doesn’t seem to use it from what I understood.
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Nice! Fixing phones is way cheaper than replacing them in this market!
@@TapticDigitalThe Motorola is my wife’s phone. I only use iPhones and I see you have many iPhone repair videos. Thank again and greetings from Reynosa,Mexico.
Hi there I’m getting the same machine motherboard error on my v3 se. I can’t figure it out I have the bin firmware on both the usb and sd card and it’s not working. Is there a specific step I’m missing?
I have an update coming soon, the nebula isn’t optimized to work with much but it can be through some firmware hacking !
Im glad I found your video so I didn't waste my money on one. Hopefully it will get updated in the future to make it a usable product for older Enders. I have the Ender 3 V3 SE on order and will stick with using Marlin for the time being.
Posting a new video in about 3.5 hours with updates about this pad!
@@TapticDigital Here's to hoping that it's getting updated to work more smoothly and easy.
i was wondering can we get a link to that cool wire guild u have on top
Cant adjust Z Offset with the Nebula pad. Gives me an error.
So you don't need to remount the sensor on the bed for the Y axis calibration?
Not that I could tell, as there was no way to mount it. I assume it detects the back and forth rocking from the extruder just the same
Yes, the sensor goes on the bed for the Y-Axis test. I have a Sonic Pad, and the instructions for it clearly state this. It can be clipped on the edge of the bed with a binder clip, or you can print a holder for it on the bed (as Ricky Impey does in his Sonic Pad tutorial serious).
Hello, I’ve just got a nebula. I have a v2 Neo. I’ve printed the bracket but mine hits the left roller casing when trying to home. Did you have the same issue?
I did not have that happen, I did catch mine trying to level outside of the bed area at one point, grinding against the far edge of the X axis
@@TapticDigital the bracket they give you just doesn’t work so now I’m trying to create a custom one like you 😅
what do i do if i was following step by step and also put the wrong firmware on my sd and my printer is now showing a straight black screen?
Format the SD card and put the correct firmware on it, pop it in and boot it back up.
I have just added this to my ender 3 pro with a sprite extruder but it keeps probing off the bed . There doesn't seem to be anyway to set the home position. Can anyone help pleasr
Correct, if you have a Sprite it makes the extruder offset different from stock, and there is no way to program that into the Nebula without either rooting it and installing Fluidd, or possibly G-code that reduces your bed size through software; changing the size from 200x200 to 160x160 could help. I've just posted a video update about how a custom firmware can fix this, and hopefully that firmware is public very soon.
Is there any chance you could send me a copy of all files on that drive ? Had a lil mishap with mine and STILL trying to connect to my Ender 3 V2 Neo . It’s ok if you can’t just don’t know where else to look
I got you! On my website Taptic.digital under the 3d Printing page you’ll find a link to the entire flash drive backup, I had a feeling it would come in handy at some point.
Please explain how could you manage to connect nebula touch screen , which has 2 row 10 pins interface , while original touch screen on Ender s1 pro has one row 6 pins??
I'd assume you need to use some kind of adapter, mine is the Ender 3 v2 and uses the 20 pin connector by default like the Nebula does.
@@TapticDigital hmm... somethig to find out indeed. thank you.
Just bought one of these kits, and I'm just curious, do you HAVE to use the g sensor? I have an Ender 3 V3 SE and I really just bought this kit for the touch screen, network printing, and the camera lol
You don’t have to, but it does help when tuning acceleration and stuff. I’ve left it disconnected and not noticed any major differences.
You need the g-sensor just to do the calibration, after that you can remove it.
@@Pablo-vt9jp actually I just got it in the mail today, and with the Ender 3 v3 SE you don't need the G sensor for calibration, mine went through setup just fine without it and it's insane how much of an improvement in print quality I'm seeing. Well worth the money for the upgrade, couldn't be happier.
I've had 3 prints fail since installing it. What profile are you using? This just turned my printer into a paper weight. @@williamgollaher2237
@@williamgollaher2237 how did you get this to work with your se mine keep saying communication with the motherboard is abnormal
Man......I hope this thing gets some updates. I have an Ender 3 Pro and was looking at the Klipper pad, but than I saw this and liked having it all integrated into my printer itself instead of having a tablet off to the side.
As an update, I was able to get this pad working though it required a lot of tinkering. It needs to be rooted to gain SSH and install Mainsail and Fluidd, at which point you can use the web console to adjust setting. Definitely not as plug-and-play as I'd like, but I'll be releasing a follow up video soon
been trying for a few hours. still cant get it to connect to my v3se
The instructions are terrible, here’s my own: 1. Format your MicroSD card and copy the ‘firmware_Nebula_pad.bin’ found on the Nebula flash drive to your MicroSD. 2. While the printer is off, connect the Nebula pad to the display ribbon cable from your printer. No other connections to the nebula, no flash drive, no usb c. 3. Power the printer on, when you get to the set up screen connect the usb c cable to the nebula pad. 4. Continue set up, and it should work from there.
What is that bed material i need it
It’s a PEY sheet, I’ve currently only seen PEY/PEO available from Ali Express so this one took about a month to get here, but it leaves that pattern on every print and makes every filament look holographic
I cant get rid of the motherboard error on my v3 se 😢, I’ve tried like all the files and none work
I was only able to get it working when I put the firmware_Nebula_Pad.bin on an otherwise blank microSD and put that in the printer, connect screen to printer with no USB C (Gforce sensor) so only the rainbow ribbon, then power the printer on. If you have a CR touch it will turn red after start up, this means the firmware update was successful and it’s waiting to connect to the Nebula.
@@TapticDigitalso my cr touch is red but still getting the communication with motherboard is abnormal
Uhg! Mines coming today. Hooking it up to my ender -3 Neo tonight. I also have a sprite on mine. Got the nebula for the networking part of it.
Please report back with how it goes! I'm very curious if the problem lies with me or the product!
@@TapticDigital I'm new at 3D printing so I'm going to have a harder time than you I believe. you are much smarter than I when it comes to this type of thing. I just got the ender neo and then got the Ender 3 V3 KE a few months later. Got it yesterday.
@@TapticDigital I can't get it to work on my Ender-3 Neo. I only see firmware for the Ender-3 V2 Neo. I tried that one but couldn't get it to communicate with the motherboard. Looks like its going back to Amazon. 😞
@@HowHigh_Juana dang! Sorry to hear it
You can root the nebula, as done for the cr10se...then access via ssh or web interface
I'm trying this first thing tomorrow, if this works, you're my hero
Unfortunately this failed as well, simply says "Upgrade Failed". I'm thinking this root is solely for the CR-10SE and not any other printer. Good try though!
I’m having issues with mine :( it shows a Machine Motherboard communication anomaly and can’t see to get past that stage
Have you copied the firmware to your SD card and put it in the printer before powering it on?
@@TapticDigital you are an absolute legend! I just spent the last hour and a half trying with Creality support!
i have a ender 3 v2 with a 4.2.2 motherboard and have tried everything and it never goes past the connecting screen, ive tried renaming the file, skipping wifi setup, different sd cards. chatting with creality was no help.
Creality support is a joke, I’ll just go ahead and say it. What ended up working for me was formatting an SD card, putting ONLY the nebula pad firmware bin file (from the nebula flash drive) on the card, and putting it into your printer. Next make sure your nebula pad is off (unplug the USB C), and only connect it with the printers screen ribbon cable. Power it on, wait about 2 seconds, then plug the USB C into the nebula pad.
@@TapticDigital so not the ender3v3 bin file on it at all?
omg, it worked right away! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!@@TapticDigital
It's all a lie, don't believe it
The method is simple. After inserting the bin file in the USB into the TF memory card you were previously using, turn off the printer, insert the TF memory card, and then turn it on.
its mean to work whit the Ender 3 v3 se and future printers
Have you managed to do e-steps yet?
I have! I'll have an updated video after new years!
@@TapticDigital Did you just load the rooted firmware for cr-10se or did you find another source? As I can't use it on my ender v2 neo at the moment as e-steps is way off
Subbing and looking urgently for that video update. Just got mine setup and having the exact same problem if not double trouble. I have a feeling i'd have to modify the firmware somehow, because i have the Spider V3 hotend, and the Sprite SE Extrudre coupled up to my 2021 Ender 3 Pro. I'm limited to 245 C and desperately need those E-Steps updated...Want it to keep up with my KE and hopefully not have to junk this old sentemential bastard.
Maybe help a brotha out and reply once it's uploaded?
Will do my friend! Out of the office for New Years but I’m thinking I’ll have an update for everyone first week of January
@@TapticDigital thanks man! I actually also just took a peek at the comments section on Creality's official video on this thing. Someone's got the same issue and they replied saying that they'll have the firmware out in January of all things. Let's hope they'll keep to their word; quite a flaw in their marketing with lack of support and feature-availability.
Is that on an ender 3 v2
It sure is, the 3 v2 is my daily printer
I have the Sprite extruder like you have with the CR touch any tips on the offset settings my probe is probing off the bed I can't figure it out
After trying everything to get this to work, I have discovered the 4.2.7 board reduces the slow boot times significantly, still not worth an extra $40, and that it isnt required for this upgrade, officially being refunded. Just an FYI.
Good to know!
Hi, You can change flow in slicer. It's bad way, but it work... Creality support promise fix it very soon....
Tried, but even at the max 300% it wasn't enough. Thankfully I've found a rooted firmware that allows me to change it! Updated video coming soon
@@TapticDigital pls share me the firmware, i can´t fine any firmware that allows me change settings, i have same problem with my ender 3 pro with sprite extruder
@@TapticDigital please upload it soon, as its inoperable with the sprite se neo extruder
SONIC PAD FOR THE WIN!!
There is a very recent update for the Nebula at Creality downloads. A few more bracket stl's , firmware for V3SE. Some bug fixes. Manual is still unhelpful. The update has better pictures of how they want things mounted on the tool head.
I'll have to check that out! I managed to get mine rooted thanks to a redditor, but I'm always down for testing
I'd like to know about the 'root'ing. I can use Creality Print with Nebula and E3 V3SE so thats good. It seems clumsy but I can adjust. I really want to get OrcaSlicer to talk to it but that probably will take some additional magic @@TapticDigital
Do you have a link to the rooting process? Trying to get this running on my V3 SE. Thanks@@TapticDigital
Such a shame you had so much trouble with this, it seems good on paper..
I ended up releasing a follow up video about it where it works well but only after rooting it with custom made firmware. It's now my daily driver! It prints fast!
@@TapticDigital I did see the follow-up, but the point of these things is supposed to be that they work out of the box, so any trouble had is naturally a shame..
JerryRig much?
Not often, but when I do jerryrig it scratches at a level 6
ROFLMFAO WOW
I THINK ILL STICK WITH MY SONIC PAD!!
its just such a better product!!
plus, you can run MULTIPLE printers with just ONE Sonic Pad..... can you do that with Neb Pad? HELL NO!! LMFAO. NEB PAD IS FAIL PAD!!
Now that it’s been rooted the Nebula pad can do the same, and it’s 1/3rd of the price of the Sonic pad.
I asked for a solution, but they kept lying and saying it was a joke... As expected, your goal was money rather than accurate video sharing~!!
I smell a bot 🤔
Makes me wonder who "they" are and why they would keep lying!
@@TapticDigital ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What an absolute garbage upgrade kit. This thing is clearly not meant for use with the V3 SE like they advertise.
Check out my new video where I put rooted firmware on it, it makes it all worth while
@@TapticDigital I couldn't get it to work. There wasn't even an option in the menus to load/unload filament. Creality offered zero installation details for the V3 SE in any of their documentation so I had to figure it out based on half a dozen RUclips videos. I could get it to bed level and calibrate the g-sensor but it would error out every single time I tried to start a print. I'm sending it back. So disappointing.
Having it require that spaghetti mess and an extra USB power input is just sloppy engineering.
Damn, why wouldn't they make it universal? I would buy one for each of my printers.
I wish, probably something to do with how it uses the LCD ribbon to communicate.
All of the problems listed are user error and unfamiliarity with klipper. Klipper is not a plug and play solution.
It sure isn’t plug and play, though that is how Creality markets this. And I don’t think the fact that it doesn’t have options to set extrusion steps is user error 😉, maybe you’ll like my new video where I install actual klipper on it and make it better.