VATSIM ATC | London Control (South) | Episode 1
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2021
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Today marks the beginning of a new series specifically for RUclips, the controlling session are completley unedited and will usually consist of one hour of controlling.
I am making these in the hope that people who don't feel to comfortable with getting on VATSIM gain some more confidence through watching these - in that we are all human and everyone makes mistakes, we don't expect you to be perfect!
Today we enjoy a one hour session on London South which focused mainly on Heathrow, Gatwick & London City aircrafts during the session.
Any questions please do feel free to comment down below! Also, make sure you chuck a cheeky like, comment and subscribe!
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I get people flying for fun but it is crazy to me that people do ATC for fun. Y'all are absolute BOSSES to do this!
it's about keeping your brain sharp, and realism, many also use it as training or keeping the skill alive if they are off for some reason.
To me it's like solving a puzzle in real time. I think if you like intense RTS games you'll like ATC
is it a real person talking or no
yes@@officerJP647
I just seem to be more interested in this aspect rather than flight. Coordination, strategy, communication, problem solving.
Oh my goodness. I thought just normal piloting on the radio was hard but this just brought it to a whole new level! No wonder why there are so many more pilots compared to ATC!
thats why its one of the most stressful jobs in the world
@@forsaturn4629 I’m fairness london control is one of the busiest bits of controlled airspace in the world. Most controllers also wouldn’t say it’s a stressful job, I love it
@@benr970 individual doesn’t speak for everyone. It’s still a fact that its one of the most stressful job in the world
@@forsaturn4629 very true, however if you found the job stressful you wouldn’t stay doing it. High pressure yes, stressful no
@@benr970 It really depends where you are, and people tend to stay for its high demand and pay, not because they wanted to.
Just learned about VATSIM yesterday so this was great to watch. Fascinating to see and makes me want to learn more. Thanks for sharing!
Welcome to VATSIM, Chris! - all of my streams over on Twitch showcase VATSIM from both the flying and controlling side. Pop by and say hi when you are next free!
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I’ve come to VATSIM from the AI ATC, haven’t flown without VATSIM since 👍
@@toddgilbey3979 same
@@LONController Hi can you do like a ground and tower video I’m finishing up my atc acadamy and so I can like see what it looks like
As a Cuban immigrant in the US who has lived in Atlanta for the past 8 years and got used to the southern US accent I am very afraid to ever encounter with a British ATC. I understood 1.3% of everything you said 😂
yep! i fly in Southern California so our atc is veryyy different from this haha
As someone who lives about 30 minutes north of Atlanta in the middle of nowhere, I second this.
you need the Queens English
@@johnboy8846 Oath
@@johnboy8846 American English is older than British English look it up. American English was how British sounded when America had its first colonies then French actually started bastardizing the British English so ours is actually the older, more proper English
As a semi-regular VATSIM pilot, this video makes me really appreciate how invaluable preparation is on the pilot's end. The amount of crucial time someone can cost you (as the controller) by having to repeat instructions really stood out to me; especially those with three or four elements - e.g. leave VOR on heading xx and expect Y arrival. By the way, the Shamrock (17J) pilot sounded like a professional! That's the kind of pilot I would like to emulate ;)
Hi Raygen,
Yeah we love preparation from the pilots, makes our job a lot easier! - controlling TWR positions and GND positions are great because you can simply tell them to more or less stop... however, in the air... they just keep moving :P
@@LONController In particular what preparation would you guys recommend taking before flying an approach?
just the SIM we want to make mistake
@@jamiedavinci1328 know your flight plan and procedures and have them open on a second screen to quickly reference when being contacted.
Be ready to receive and remember what they said at any time.
Plan ahead what might happen, eg I just did an approach where the runway was occupied until the last second because the guy on there didn't start rolling. I had altitude and heading already set for a go-around as always but checked the charts once again to really already know what instructions I'd be getting when asked to go around.
Same goes for descent planning, know the altitude limits and the approach and when to expect what.
Lastly they might change your route a bit, for example a direct to waypoint, often that's one on your route so youd know it already but otherwise have some way of navigating there ready, either the FMC already set to the flight plan screen for quick entry, or some database like skyvector open to quickly reference frequencies etc.
It's hard the first few times but gets much easier when you know what to expect after the third time you're on there. I highly recommend some less busy routes for starters. Maybe something with just a departure tower but a landing in a unicom area so you can learn one thing at a time, at least that's what I did.
What an awesome guy. for someone that is scared to death going chat in Vatsim, you make things looks so easy and comfortable. Thanks for your service!!!
It really is a thing of just doing it, I did it on accident the first time and the controller basically begged me to use voice.. It eventually is way more relaxed to use voice instead of chat
Ok, I have no idea what's happening most of the time and I have no idea how you manage it...but it's fascinating and impressive all the same.
Watched this a few months ago, found it again and ended up watching the whole video again. Really entertaining stuff appreciate it!
you could do a serie that shows all the different stations (del, ground, tower, approach, center) and what is different in comparison to the one before
Looks so complicated yet you make it look so easy, Great to watch.
Dude, you are a machine! It was great to see how you keep us pilots sweet.
Thanks for sharing. Very fun to see "the other side" of the Vatsim experience.
Hahaha, that's fantastic!
Long time aviation fan, never looked at the ATC side of flightsims though for some reason. Great job and I can feel the excitement just watching, heh!
Keep up the good work and lots of respect to ATC, on AND offline! :)
Just had my first VATSIM flight the other day. Very interesting to see what’s keeping everything running. Thanks
@LondonController You sir are a machine! the amount of coolness under pressure is unbelievable
This is SO insane! I used to have an account with VATSIM more than 15 years ago.. but the audio quality (voice codec used) was to be desired, to the point it was unintelligible, and there was no will to fix it from VATSIM. And never returned again. But from what I hear now, I was blown away! They finally fixed it. Audio quality mimics the real thing! Will try to log-in again, and see if I can reactivate my account! By the way, I like your controlling! Respect!
Very interesting to see the controllers perspective for a change! Thanks a lot!
I see how this could be a lot of fun but my brain could not keep up 😂
I have to add, this is, pardon my french, bloody marvelous. However, I live in the Eastern region, 126.780 so just off the north sea humber area. Have been interested in air traffic control for a number of years and follow mainly military traffic but civvy is just as interesting. I really want to have a go at controlling traffic and this is just the thing for me.
Kudos to you, mate! I've started using VatSim as a pilot in the past two weeks and I thought that was stressful!!
A quick brain!.... impressive. Thank you for your vatsim service and for posting this :)
Seriously, how cool is this community? Can't wait to get setup.
This is soo cool putting a face to the voice I hear so commonly out of gatwick !
Even when I was a kid I always thought radio communication and co-ordinating and co-operating was the coolest thing! This is an incredible display of clear communication and sick multitasking. GG's my guy
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Wow! I’ve watched a few pilot POV videos and have appreciated how professional the ATC folk have been.
Seeing it from the ATC POV is an eye-opener! Very, very impressed.
How do you interact with other controllers? How do you decide who gets what aircraft?
And your ability to talk to camera and listen to the incoming radio comms is impressive as well. 😂👏👏
On another note: I’m guessing Heathrow is a popular airport flightsim pilots around the world; the different accents must make life … interesting.
I like how the 'pilots" have background noise like a real acft
mr jamie out here helping the community. what a lad
You know me mate! ;)
Great video, I'm also thinking about joining Vatsim.
Also I hope you can make a video about explain all the Chart, aircraft list include the top bar in the screen that contain in Sector inbound, outbound and beside the metars list with all the meaning behind numbers and letters. For example: ASSR, SSR and other else.
Great controlling Jamie - Keep up the good work
Amazing vid gotta try this been stuck with import madness 3d for years this is next level
This is super helpful and a treat to listen to! Will gladly watch more of this.
You, good sir, and all your ilk, are magicians.
Man, watching this all come together around 42:00 is so awesome.
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You are built differently to normal humans. Unreal! So impressive
Wow this is impressive stuff !
Great video, loved it. First ATC video. Thinking of getting into it and this was a nice intro
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Great job! Its very good to learn as a Atc trainee :)
Best of luck with the training! :)
@@LONController Thank you ^^
Wow, this is soo cool!!
mad respect :)
Nice! I was just wondering what plugins you use/what would be good for observing while I wait for the OBS seminar?
Awesome video. You are legend
10 mins in and loving it, no skipping the vido
Cheers Alex!
Quite Amazing to see it in action!
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Hats off to all Air Traffic Controllers..l thought our job as pilots was tough.. now l have an understanding of what is going on on ATC screens when u are been controlled
Very interesting, thanks for sharing
A double upload and a start of RUclips series? I can't complain :D
nice work. Why do you sometimes clear flights to "when established LOC, descend with glide", and others you clear for ILS? Is there a difference in these clearances? I've heared both in the London area, but can't figure out why anyone would use the way longer call of "when established".
Mindblown 🤯
Yes, this was good
Hi mate, great video would love to see more of these! Quick question: I'm currently an S1 for VATSIM UK and was wondering how long it would take me to get up to being an area controller like you? Cheers,
Matt
what level of atc are you now?
Holy cow, god mode controlling. I used to control on VATSIM, Toronto FIR-CYYZ C1 rating, but I hated center control, I would much rather do approach/depature. Over the pond CYYZ arrival was always fun.
Question: when you entered the frequency everything appeared following the right settings, im a controller too on Vatsim but this doesn’t happen to me, how do you do it?
Couple of times you gave instruction "level by" and what sounded like "reaching", was that a waypoint name or an instruction to be level at reaching a waypoint?
Great job
look at these series
This only scares me more to go onto vatsim XD
What software do you use to see the plane and stuff
Hey! i got a question. Do pilots need to be guided all the way through or do rhey have a path they always follow? It seems crazy they always need to be guided through a flight
this is so fking amazing im addicted to watching m8
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Then you’ve got me “hey so uh, yeah I lost my piece of paper with the taxi instructions, yeah it’s a 2 mile taxi but uhhhh can we get a read back on more time?” The tenth time that day
Thanks for doing this - very interesting
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The content I signed up for 💯👌🏽
LETS GOOOOOOO!
Made out with an ATC controller at a club and she was telling we about her job which peaked my interest and eventually landed me on this video. Not sure if I would ever choose to do this as a career but it’s quite interesting non the less.
Just about to finish writing a major proposal and will then set up VATSIM for XPLANE11.5 so help me improve my comms in preparation for my first (UK) solo and cross country. I flew 5 hours solo in the US back in 1998 but didn't continue flying when I returned to the UK - but have to say, I find the whole VATSIM thing daunting.
wow. you are so fast. you really know what youre doing
34:47 why are they fly around those semicircles ( through LCE11 , 12 , 13 ) ?!! is that for noise abatement purpose ?
What mic are you set up with there?
Hahaha, I literally just asked for this in a comment on your CPDLC video. Nice work Jamie
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Come on, it's not that hard, it's totally worth it! Way back when I was doing LGGG_CTR (basically the whole Greek FIR) on IVAO I was having the time of my life, the whole mix of airliners at the major airports, as well as VFR traffic, people doing pattern work and others flying in and out of the smaller airports was great fun, it kept on my toes. It helped me reduce my smoking, too! A small trick I had was that for smaller airports where there was just one flight I'd give them their clearance and then clear them to start and taxi to the holding point, then call ready.
My brain hurts….😂😂😂 I’d have no chance using this
ABSALUTLLY WHAT AN BENEFIT THANKS ALLOT THIS IS CAREERE PRO, WELL DONE MATE.🏅🎖🥉⬆
Holy. Moly.
I'm a Emirates pilot and you sound like a real life ATC omg.
I'm about to start Navy flight school and have no prior flying experience... ATC communication seems so intimidating!
It can be, but it is like everything - you have to start somewhere! - the more you fly/control, the better you get!
Love the video, I'm about to start flying on vatsim and I have a question. I tend to struggle programming STARs and SIDs into the GPS/FMC (due to out of date AIRAC), could I put "No STAR/SID" in the remarks section of the flight plan and ask for vectors? (Probably for a few flights until I can get a Navigraph subscription)
Yea, actually even in real life you are able to file a flight plan without a STAR or SID, if for some reason you are unable to comply with theirs requirements - for example lack of navigational equipment (f.e. RF-LEG, RNAV 1) or stated minimum gradient or speed. Then just file a plan with the latest point set as an entry STAR point and then IAF. In flight, if struggling with anything, just ask for vectors or some other clearence.
Awesome job. Only found out today that this was a thing, watched a pilot on line and thought ATC was a computer, couldnt believe after a quick chat that ATC was actually people work hard doing what you do. Amazing
hello, I'm a new pilot and I am pretty sure I can do vatsim but concerned I may mess up readbacks due to my short term memory being bad. I can control the aircraft completely and use navigraph premium, I am just nervous so do my first flight with vatsim, do you think i'll do ok? also I fly Sri Lankan airlines, is "Srilankan503" acceptable as the callsign or would it have to be like "ALK503"?
Amazing stuff
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looks realistic enough. thou i noticed, people are being placed on vectors and altitude changes, when they aren't really necessarily needed, almost doing it just to do it, in which i don't think they do that in real life.
Never thought i would look at a guy talking numbers and letters for one hour but.... here i am...
wow that's intense lol
As controller log on and see all aircraft, how does he know where they going to direct them!?
This video got me into vatsim and now im an s2 in the uk
Hey mate, amazing! - hope you will enjoy the new episodes!
What Program are you using?
When you have no one to telll you to change the frequency so how do you know which londont control frequency do you need to contact
I like this content i would like to try controlling on vatsim. Question what sequence do controllers use to determine which aircraft they will contact next ?.
Hi Ricardo, great question!
So most adopt the process of scaninng - this is gonna be more about those aircraft in the air. There is another type of communication priority for the Ground controllers. So the place we always look is around the extended centerlines, when we establish the aircraft they must be within 40° of the runway heading when establishing. If you have flown on VATSIM before you may have heard "you've missed the localiser" or "establishing from the north" - a lot of the time there is only 2-3 blips of radar trail from an aircraft before we have to turn them final to establish - so we focus our efforts on these first.
Moving further out, we look at the RMA's or better known as the Radar Manouvering Areas which are the areas in the close vicinity to an airport in which we vector, then we move to the airway channels close to the airports. And then finally, those that are on our sector boundary looking to enter.
But in simple terms, the sequence is purely determined on the situation. There may be a situation we need to deal with on the sector boundary to avoid a safety issues which may mean an aircraft has to go through the localiser - so we prioritse based on efficency, but more importantly safety.
Further to that, do you cover 126.780?
Hi, great video. Q if I may:
What happens if a pilot doesn’t respond straight away? How long is too long to wait for a response?
While on vatsim...it is expected of you to respond straight meanwhile...it might take like 5 seconds due to the fact that sometimes, we are writting the instructions on a paper...and aome controllers will text you shortly after giving you an instruction. Vatsim is fun
Super cool! How to become a ATC in VATSIM as you?
top man
you mean ULTIMATE top man ;)
The likes are the amount of times he said “so”
So it's an ATC network that latches onto whatever simulation you're using? i.e. FSX, FS2020, X-Plane, etc?
precisely
Yeah, no matter what sim you're using, you're put in the same network. The only place where XP and MSFS users coexist peacefully :)
So-so series
hamburg tower is also really stressful but that…. that is just insane
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why do you not clear ILS for Heathrow?
Sorry if this is a dumb q, but I'm new to this: What ATC client is this? I ask because apparently there are several to pick from?
There are 2 popular client VRC ( mainly used in the US ) and Euroscope shown in the video and used in Europe and outside the US
Hey Chad - great question!
Yeah as Mo said below, we use Euroscope over in the UK. If you are planning on training anywhere, the relevant department will let you know which one you need!
Any more of these planned?
What are the pilots 'playing'? MSFS or how does this all work?
It looks like departures out of EGLC could potentially interfere with arrivals from the north into EGLL 27R/L?
They do, but they are held at 3000ft! - and the Heathrow stuff is at 4000ft!
do we have a so counter ?
Subbed. And trust me, I do no sub to many channels. Few a month generally. :)