The Resource War - Extra History Reaction Compilation (All 4 Episodes)
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This is a compilation of all four parts to my reaction series, originally recorded about a year ago. Enjoy!
Are you going to get back into their stuff? I think theirs on Early Christian Schisms would work great, considering your day job as a pastor
Their series on "conquest of India" are also good. It would be nice to see your reaction on that.
@@HistoryNerd808 I've begged him to review that several times. I'd love his opinion on those.
had just rewatched it too, now I'm gonna watch it again! also crazy to think this came out when hoi4 was being released.
Can you do TIKHistory Why Germany Lost War oil reaction?
Chris, I can’t believe you haven’t reacted to Extra History’s Cuban Missile Crisis. It’s one of their finest and cleanly written three part story, and it has awesome tension despite us already knowing the outcome. Would love to see your reaction to it!
The brothers Gracchi are also a pretty underrated one I would like to see him reacting to.
@@G_OkrKhosrow as well since it’s a great follow up to Justinian and Theodora
Would love to see him react to the Defense of Poland and the Warsaw uprising. 3 videos total. Some excellent stuff there too and so much lost history (from the Warsaw uprising video)
Really was a different era of Extra History when the original guy was still doing it.
And I still miss when Jon Stewart was the host of the Daily Show
Yeah it felt like you learnt a lot more while with the new guy you still learn just not as much as it kinda feels like they risk that learning to be funny.
If you haven't heard of or seen the series WWII In Numbers, I HIGHLY recommend it. They also have The Great War In Numbers as well, and the episodes are available on RUclips. Both series really break down the sheer numbers of just about EVERY resource that played a part in winning both those wars.
It could certainly be argued that Julius Caesar employed a terror campaign in Gaul, and, when combined with his crushing military defeat of the combined Gaulic forces under Vercingetorix, did work to subdue Gaul.
Talking about the logistics of pre-mechanized warfare, there's one huge, overriding concern that you left out: Animals and animal feed. Oxes, horses, and loads and loads of hay, was a major constraint. The more animals you need to transport artillery and goods? The more feed you must bring. More feed will need to be carried by additional animals.
Rewatching this reminds me in an odd way of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" as an insane amount of that text is about how to handle resources and supply lines.
I have often thought of General Sherman’s march through Georgia as a strategic bombing campaign of the civil war.
Here’s hoping for more historia civilis! Looking forward to watching this through with dinner
soldiers and sailors win battles, but wars are won on the assembly line
Fun fact: The only Kriegsmarine surface vessel engaged and sunk by a US surface vessel was a liberty ship operated by the merchant marine. Sadly it was costly fight.
1:00:04 This reminds me a lot about Tony Benns speech in the house of commons, regarding the Iraq war. "Bombing in to submission"? No such thing exists
Rotterdam, Netherlands 1940 submitted after a blitz
Hey brother, been out of the loop for a while: I’m 37 years old, caring for a wife a daughter, a part-time student learning Calculus and Chemistry on my way to an engineering degree. Loved the video and was glad to spend a free moment to breathe watching it!
Sounds like you have a busy but fulfilling life. Glad to have you here!
43:05 Herein lies another issue--shipping those raw materials. Up until Pearl Harbor the majority of merchant shipping upon which Japan depended was not Japanese. It was American. So suddenly they lacked the infrastructure to ship the very goods they needed.
You're absolutely right about the oil question re invading the Soviet Union. The real strategic rationale for invading was likely sheer fear of a Soviet attack at a later time, when Germany would have been much more occupied on other fronts. Arguably 1941 was the best opportunity Germany had to take out the Soviet Union: Britain was largely contained in the home islands, the USA wasn't in the war yet, and the Red Army was in bad shape (as had been demonstrated in Poland and Finland).
A really great video that covers something from the Finnish during ww2. is the video from simple history the soldier who fought in 3 armies. its about a Finnish soldier who fought for finland, Germany, and the united states. thought i would leave a suggestion since i have been a subscriber for a while and your channel has helped deepen my love for history and now im going to school for a history degree because of my love for it.
thank you for making these videos and your original content that you make in historical sites. it does a really good job of giving a deeper understanding of some of these events.
I loved this one. Great to still learn new things about the Wars that we already know so much of. I will say my fav are the animated maps.. like Epic History Napoleon for example. Fantastic stuff.
Long time since i commented but still loving your channel with my daughter! Glad you went back to do this one
Part 3, talking about the technologies developed or advanced because of the war reminded me of Orson Wells' character in The Third Man. He was being criticized for admiring war and being a profiteer. He responded by pointing out all the advancements made in such a short time. He used Switzerland as a counter. Something along "Centuries of peace. And they've given the world.... the coocoo clock."
An overstatement, but things tend to get done a lot faster when there's a gun pointed at your head.
It was reportedly first introduced to Europe when Mongols lobbed plague-infected corpses during the siege of Caffa in the Crimea in 1347.[9] The Genoese traders fled, bringing the plague by ship into Sicily and Southern Europe, whence it spread.
Not sure what the rules are doing a reaction to it since it was a TV documentary instead of RUclips but there is a series called The Churchills I think you would really like. It is available on RUclips
I call the Sino-Japanese war in the 30s a "prelude," but poland is the "start"
Great video and your commentary definitely added to it.
Dont know why im so fascinated by the logistics and resources side of things.
Its strangely inspiring when you see a whole country mobilise, work together towards a common goal and work as a whole cohesive unit like Britain did in after Dunkirk. They were a political mess before hand but they rallied and solidified into something with unmovable resolve.
I mean on the USSR invasion front, Germany kind of had too as well due to time. Them and the Soviets both knew the Non Aggression pact had a time limit. If Germany hadn't attacked by 1942 at the latest, the Russians would have invaded them by 1943 in their own "Strike before they strike us"
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Hasn't happened since the discovery of electricity. Possibly not since gunpowder weapons.
This video is so relevant today.
20:40 - There were a few conflicts and expeditions through the XIX and XX centuries on China(1856-59), Korea(1871), Egypt(1882), but mainly the Spanish American war(1898), that took place in the Caribbean, but also the Pacific, and was followed by the Philippine American war(1899-1906).
The US also took part in the international coalition that intervened in the Boxer Rebellion(1899-1901)
So, the US had dipped their toes in international wars and interventions, specially in the Asia-Pacific region, before WWI
You should react to their series on the sengoku jidai period. If anyone is a fan of Shogun I highly recommend it.
Yay new episode!!!🎉
anymore i just click ‘like’ right off the bat, and am never disappointed…
that guy's voice sounded like a regular voice that was sped up .5x
The middle eastern oil resources were less developed at the time, but pushing through the middle east, instead of USSR, would also have cut the British Empire in half at the Suez Canal.
Bit off topic for this video but you should react to the 2014 Sainsbury’s Christmas advert it’s about WW1. Really moving
Would love to see a reaction to camp Gagnon interview with a wwII expert
Nice to hear the old Extra History / Credits Narrator again! The new one isn't bad, but I preferred this one ^^
Extra history sengoku jidai
Was there any work done by German scientists to develop synthetic oil? At least within the US there was synthetic fiber and rubber being developed.
Germany had a synthetic oil and fuel program even before the war. It was ramped up in the late '30s. Unfortunately for them the factories that made it were heavily dependent on water, electricity, and coal to produce synthetic oil. Once bombing of Germany proper began the destruction of infrastructure and the factories themselves caused a large dropoff in production.
Despite sizable resources going into the program it would never have produced enough to make them self sufficient. Hence the need to take oil fields in Romania and Caucus regions. They also hoped to get Persian oil, but realistically could only hope to disrupt that area enough to keep it out of British and Soviet hands.
I've wondered how much WWII strategy would have been different if the Italians knew how much oil they were sitting on when they ruled Libya.
@@christopherconard2831 Hey, thanks a lot for your answer. I didn't know that Germany had started the synth fuel program before the war. And yes, I'd often thought about those Libyan oil fields too.
One note: Believe it or not the merchant marines of the pacific were more or less unmolested by the Japanese as they delivered lend/lease to the USSR.
Japan had signed a treaty of non-aggression with the soviet union and did not want to provoke the soviets since they had enough on their plate with China and taking on the rest of the allied powers. The US ships would flag themselves as soviet ships and would not come under attack by the Japanese. The soviets made it clear the lend/lease ships going to their ports were covered by the treaty and Japan protested, but left the American vessels alone. Germany was incensed about it, but they couldn't do anything to convince Japan to go to war with the soviets any more than the allies could get the soviets to break their non aggression with Japan.
A few comments
WW1 - Germany surrender because of economics back home, they were starving. This lead to the infamous “stab in the back”. No German soil was touched by allies.
The US provided approximately 50% of Normandy invasion and 100% of Saipan invasion and did it at the same time.
Hitler had to go to war, his economy was not strong enough to survive if he stayed home,
Right. He had no choice but go to war, just like he had no choice but to exterminate millions of innocent people. JFC.
There's always another way.
Sherman’s march to the sea? I no it wasn’t a terror, but it brought the war home
WWII started at Marco Polo Bridge. Fite me. lol
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@@thatiowan3581 *Dialect
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500,000 trucks alone, carried the red army all the way to Berlin
I hope you could react to Battle of Midway 1942 by Montemayor. Love your channel btw ❤❤
Isn't a terror campaign essentially had the Mongols operated?
56:51 Its not often mentioned but I learned that Germany lost the war for Britain because of this switching between military and civilian targets. RAF was on the ropes and launched raid on Berlin which had the exact effect it should have, it angered Germanys pride and they gave RAF enough of a breather to fight on until they turned the tables. It does however, sound like the argument that USSR was close to breaking and was saved by the lend lease from absolute collapse. Not in arms but food for civilians and fuel for airplanes and most importantly, trucks for infrastructure. It sounds like one of those close shaves which were invented after the war to explain germany not winning. But idk, close shaves do happen and who knows what would have happened if RAF kept losing airfields and aircraft. Maybe it would fall into the same trap as germany in 45 where even if it has the planes it doesnt have the pilots to fly them who are skilled enough to be effective.
these are all things you would learn at the war collage in america Eisenhower's class was one.
man, hearing Dan's voice is so nastolgic. Hope he's been doing good since leaving EC.
I would argue his use of the word ‘donated’ when it comes to lend lease. I as a 50yr old Brit who’s taxes helped pay off the war debt of lend lease from a war my grandad fought in, think about that. I would have to check but even his great grand children would’ve paid towards it to.
Given that Britian was still paying off the debt from the South Sea Bubble just a few years ago, I'm not sure that whether or not saying British money is, on paper, paying any debt makes a whole lot of sense. Near as I can tell, Britain chops up its debts and mixes them up in what amounts to financial wizardry that, practically, means Britain doesn't have debt in the same way other countries might.
The pound is simply an incredibly reliable currency, and the British government is a reliable debtor, and the treasury is a midly eldritch horror.
Great Britain made its final payment to the United States in 2006.
Tik history has a super interesting video about oil in WW2 and how it made Germany make the decisions it did
How is Italy a "largely landlocked, non-colonial power"??? around 35:40
Excellent
A lot of Lend-Lease aid also went to China
i feel this series in general sort of just ignores the east and only talks about the UK and USA with only passing mentions to china and the USSR
It could maybe be argued that bombing Rome got Italy out of the war really quick?
Resources resources resources. It should be noted that or best supreme commanders or general of the army is specialized is logistics. Napoleon understood this and Ike was one of the best. Germany had great field commanders but relied upon Hitler on logistics and strategy. When Hitler started cracking/caving from stress, Germany started to fold. Japan had problems from the start. They need resources but had no way to secure and hold it. It was going to take years for the US to build up and cross the ocean, but Japan lost the war on December 7……. When they brought in the US into the war, wasn’t if Japan would lose but when.
France took great care towards logistics in WWII but still lost. Ultimately reckless tactics can still defeat a methodical opponent.
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The terror of 2 nuclear bombs made Japin surrender.
I thought it was the resource war from fallout
The last domino falls here, Anchorage will be liberated!
Top 5 likes. Yes!!
From 39 minutes in I feel your argument is very much completely flawed and kinda dumb to put it lightly, you are speaking too much with the flhindsight that is afforded to us in history, but the never say anything that goes against the major point which was due to the strained relationship between soviet union and nazi germany, the germans could just lose all their oil anyways by stakin just refusing to give it. Your points of it was done poorly and didnt even get that much is completely null and void by the fact the germans actually did make and set up, and use previous oil production facilities and storage facilities that they could capture and use it to fuel the war onward but could never actually properly get enough because they didnt have the manpower to devot to the task of doing that while also fighting to gain more, and defeat the soviets as a nation. Also being constantly raided by the other allies by bombing and also the soviets bombing too making it just a giant lull and loss for them. Also consider the major fact that it was estimated by theur vest researchers and planners that if they didnt attack the soviets as soon as they did, they would never again have enough oil and fuel afterwards to ever attempt to properly invade and attack them again due to the cost of running the whole military.
Yourpoints just dont matter at all as noatter what uf they ever wanted to invade the soviets that was the last and latest time that they could manage it.
My uncle served in the merchant marines...i had no idea how dangerous his missions were. Thank you for this reaction!😊
My father, born in the 20s was close to fanaticalabout recycling. Partly due to the depression, and partly due to WWII, he just could never understand single use resources.
He was no tree-hugging hippie, he just hated waste, litter and pollution.
I wish more people had that attitude.
My great grandfather served in both world wars. After what he had witnessed during the first, he had begged his son to not join the Canadian army, afraid of what might happen to him. Instead he convinced him to join the navy.
After fighting across North Africa he took part in the invasion of Italy, where he would stay until the end of the war.
His son however did not survive the war like his father. I can’t being to imagine the pain he must have felt when he got the news. To survive both wars as an infantry officer, and yet your son who you convinced to join a “safer” area of the war didn’t make it.
I’m glad that so much attention was given to the merchant navy in this. They deserve all the respect in the world for what they accomplished.
Fun fact I recently learned: unsurprisingly, Nazi Germany was the most mobilized nation during the war. #2: Canada
Were they? Germany did not even mobilized into a war economy until 1942.
@@Edax_Royeaux By the end of the war, Germany was sending teenagers and elderly into combat because they were that desperate for bodies. No other nation got close to that level of desperation. Japan could've conceivably hit it if an invasion commenced but with limited capacity to ship troops out, they wouldn't have been able to mobilize like that prior to then
@@forgottenfamily At the same time, the German elite were afraid of mobilizing to a war economy out of fear of a backlash. The US ends up mobilizing a war economy before Germany does. Germany lacked for bodies because they declared war on everybody, including Italy, and was badly mismanaging their resources. You had around 300,000 German soldiers sitting around in Norway doing nothing. That's twice the number of Allied Army soldiers involved with D-Day.
As for Japan, their military spending exceeded their GDP during the last few years of the war, it is only due to the vast proliferation of the black market that that was even physically possible.
@@Edax_Royeaux Germany actually fielded more soldiers than the United States despite having a considerably smaller population base to work from - only the Soviets fielded a larger army.
I'm not disputing the economic question, I just don't think you properly appreciate just how stupid things got towards the end of the war for Germany.
@@forgottenfamily I'm aware how desperate things got in Germany, they were driving cars using wood as fuel in Berlin due to how short they were of everything. That doesn't mean they were the most mobilized country of WWII. Mobilization is more than just putting bodies in uniform, it's putting the entire nation on a war footing and the Germans were actually remarkably slow at committing to do that.
Here in czechia WW2 has kinda started earlier too when germany anexxed us there was some resistence from the army
Because of the resource gap, the Axis had absolutely no chance of winning a war against the USA and USSR simultaneously.
Just watched Glory because you said it was your favorite Civil War movie, and wow I see why you love it! Just pre-ordered the new 4K steelbook that's coming out❤
Don't know if your still looking into roman history but you should react to the Crisis of the Third Century of the Roman Empire. Very interesting and I don't think it gets talked about enough.
US being the fisherman while the fish fight to death
there was the bombing of bilbao by the luftwaffe in the spanish civil war, entirely leveling the city and leading to its almost immediate capture by the nationalists, otherwise there was the bombing of rotterdam followed by the ultimatum to the netherlands "surrender or be anhilated" in which the dutch administration choose to fold rather than subject their people to the horrors of war. i cant think of any more like major examples of the top of my head, but the german air doctrine of terror did have background and it did work in the past, atleast seemingly. More often than not tho there was more than what it seemed. Bilbao was really just a small town in the grand scheme of things, it wasnt a grand stronghold and the fighting there was relatively low intensity compared to other areas, then you bring the whole might of the luftwaffe to a quiet battle scene like that, it was overkill. And the swift capitulation of the netherlands was a decision by the administration and the military, to spare their people, the higher ups by themselves chose to fold, instead of the dutch people having their spirits broken pressuring their governement to surrender.
Chris, because of your videos getting me more into history in general and specifically on my part and interest, WW2, Medieval and Ancient history, I was given a compliment on YT of all places, on my knowledge of the challenges of dealing with DeGaulle, during Ww2. A person on YT from Quebec, had seen and heard Degaulle, when he visited there. He explained to me that I had described DeGaulle to a T and his country pretty much kicked his butt out of Quebec. This RUclipsr, was impressed with my knowledge of history. I, of course, in return mentioned your channel and Dan Carlin's channel and Podcasts and bade him good wishes if he/she decides to start listening to to you guys.
So, thank you Professor Chris for instilling in me a love and a deep respect for learning history. Cheers!
A great WW2 movie:
“Action In The North Atlantic “
[ 1942. Humphrey Bogart] Fictional, but tells the tale of of a group of Merchant Marines and the dangers they faced. Shows about Convoys, and “wolf Packs “, etc…. EXCELLENT MOVIE
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This may be my new favorite reaction video of yours. I find this kind of information so much more useful to understanding why a war was won than just ground offensive strategies and ideologies. I'd love to see a similar video about the civil war and world war I.
As much as the USSR did to break the Germans in the war I don~t think an argument could be made that thez would have won had thez not nvaded. Let's assume Germany never invades the USSR. Sure that saves a lot of resources. Let's put two more assumptions into place: 1. Stalin will continue sending resources (which isn't exactly an heroic assumption because he benefited from this) and Germany does not declare war on the US when Japan attacks (since that was at least in part done in the hope of Japan doing the same to the USSR).
Does this now mean Germany wins? No! Germany is not in a strategic position to invade the UK. They might be able to be more succsessfull in Africa under these circumstances and a bit more succsessfull on the U-Boat war. Both are under serious limitations though. For the Africa campaign any ramp up of material send there has to fight against the dominance over the mediterranian the UK had established. And U-Boats were more and more crippled by the UK'S counter measures. In particular the deciphering of the Enigma but also by closeing the air gap and developeing better anti submarine warfare technology and tactics faster than the Germans developed their improved submarines (and tactics).
Personally I find it kind of interesting that the submarine campaign of WW2 is covered by so many people when it was the one where the UK was able to apply lessons learned from WW1 and reduce it's effectivness right away. Meanwhile the trade war by the Kaiserreich actually got the UK in enough trouble that they feared for winters where they do not have enough food & material (which was why the UK was lobbying the US so much about the unrestricted submarine warfare question).
Overall Germany not declareing war on the USSR would certainly have prolonged the war in Europe by a lot. In particular combined with not declareing on the US, because the US would have concentrated on Japan. But Germany winning I still do not see it (and really who would want a world where that happened?). Could the UK (even with the Empire) retake continental Europe on their own? Propably not. But they could contain Germany with their sea and air power and then do what they did against Napoloen. Not giving up, seeking allies and waiting for the sea blockade to do it's work.
In the end the best answer to the question was the attack on the USSR an Error is still: "So you are asking, if the Nazis weren't Nazis they might have won?" Because the Nazi regime with it's ideology was always going to expand east.
Same is true for the Battle of Britain. The notion that the RAF was on it's last leg is not supported by most military historians. It is a view from the German perspective, because their hunt squadrons were not engaged nor did they find many fighters on the airfields they targeted. The reality was the UK's reconisance was so good that they did not take the bait unless actual bombers were in the air. For a large group of fighters they just relocated their own squadrons to airfield out of range for those. So the Germany saw a strategy working and burned resources on "finishing of" the RAF while the RAF concentrated on the targets they actually wanted to defend against.
The Nazi military command was also highly dysfunctional and fought each other for allocation of resources.
Regarding Nazi oil dependance of the Soviet Union, Stalin never believed that Hitler would attack, so presumably they could have relied on the oil at least whilst Stalin was in power.
The knockout blow for Britain really ought to have been Dunkirk, were it not for Nazi bungling.
As for the special relationship, there were instances before the first world war where war between Britain and the US could have broken out.
The debate over which brought the US out of the Great Depression, the New Deal or the war effort, spectacualrly misses the point;
they both involved central economic planning.
Another movie that is great when it comes to the merchant marine is konvoi, a Norwegian movie based on true events showcasing the Norwegian merchant navy during ww2.
Krigsseilerne is another movie about the Norwegian merchant marine during the 2nd world war.
As turned out to be a trait... US... late...
The mongels
When He's talking about per capita GDP and shows that boxer who is all banged up, its a perfect analogy and it really is a great way of choosing strategic options. Having a large population with plentiful resources is like being a fighter with excellent cardio, having a technologically advance military is like having harder punches, having an advanced economy is like having a really good chin, and then having a well trained military and experience is like having good technique. Recently I was showing a friend some of your stuff about General Grant, He and I are huge MMA fans and to try and help him understand Grants brilliance and compare him to Lee and the generals who came before grant, I explained that Lee fought like a conor macgregor who is fast, dynamic, slick and has a killer knock out punch, BUT, he didn't have the endurance if pressed (ie, numbers) and economically speaking he didn't have a great chin either (connors chin is pretty good though, not the point.) Grant on the other hand fought more like Khabib Nurmagomedov, he put the pressure on his enemy, never backing down until they broke, it was more matter of just putting his hands on him, wrestling his enemy down, beating him up and then strangling or breaking him, he didn't care if he ate a few extra punches, or broke even in those exchanges, economically he had the endurance and the chin to hold up much better. If he got close enough wrestle lee down, he knew that lee wasn't getting back up, that he could hold him down and really start hurting him. From there finishing him off was only a matter of time.
I came across a pretty interesting channel focusing on far west/southwest civil war period that has a neat Confederate Arizona territory series you'd probably find interesting. Civil war: wild west edition
You need to watch TiK History if you really want a trip. He'll be fine with your riffs because you contribute to the discussion.
Also, try on the book FDR's Folley for size.
Would love to see you react to What did the British ever do for us? (scientifically) by Reef Rebels! Hoping he does more for other countries as well
so 18th june 1940 is the Churchill finest hour speach and at the same time, the call from De Gaulle at the BBC radio to call the French to resist... heh
Re has a terror campaign actually weaken rather than strength resolve. Well maybe The Mongols
German thought Greek would roll over. But didn’t even after they were concord.
Why did America choose the side they did in ww1 and ww2? why didnt they side with Germany?
more economic and cultural ties with britain is why
for example: (cultural) the UK and USA both speak english, (economic) the USA had already been trading a lot more with the UK prior to either world war than with germany
WW1: Germany tried to ask Mexico to attack but the message was intercepted.
WW2: Pearl Harbor
Do new lemmino video? Jack the Ripper reactions were amazing
Lemmino doesn't care for reaction videos. He stated as such using VTH as an example. So Chris won't be doing any of his videos anymore.
@@coxmosia1 understandable. Wasn’t aware
Hello Also this is quite interesting and bagel
Oh this is bitter for me just now. I literally just woke up a few minutes ago and it had the horrific nightmare about the Holodamor in Kazakhstan and yet the way they were still expected to fight in WW2 so soon after. Not a dream I recommend. At least this video is something to keep my mind off it.
I guess you mean Ukraine?
@@kjejon1 No. I meant Kazakhstan. They too had the experience of the Holodamor.
@@kjejon1 the holodamor isn't a ukraine thing, it was a USSR thing. it occurred throughout the entirety of the USSR, Ukraine wasn't even hit the hardest from it
I do not want to get too far off topic, but isn't Israel's attack on Gaza supposed to break the Palestinian resistance once and for all? Yet you say that such tactics have never worked.
it's because those tactics don't
just because israel says that doesn't mean it will work out that way
Roosevelt’s policies ended the Great Depression. Lend Lease and the mobilization for war involved massive amounts of deficit spending, far more than the New Deal. So Roosevelt had the right policies, if anything New Deal programs should have been bigger.