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  • After the fall of France in 1940 the only thing standing between Hitler and Britain was the English channel. This led to a huge strategic bombing campaign that would only be disrupted by the invasion of The USSR the following year. By then The Allies began hitting Germany hard with strategic bombing campaigns of their own. This was a controversial tactic with no regard for civilian life, but did it actually work?
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Комментарии • 224

  • @WAYNE-hx7ul
    @WAYNE-hx7ul 12 дней назад +21

    Stop sugar coating history it may be disturbing but humanity needs to see that war is ugly

    • @matthewjay660
      @matthewjay660 День назад

      Yeah, I agree. As we're inching closer and closer to conflict with 🇨🇳, we need to be reminded that war is pain, suffering, and ⚰️🪦. We must NOT blur out nor censor images regarding the negative consequences of war.

  • @Dmc214ever
    @Dmc214ever 13 дней назад +14

    World War II in color is one of the greatest series of all time.

  • @basilmcdonnell9807
    @basilmcdonnell9807 13 дней назад +12

    It's too bad the episode wasn't about strategic bombing.

    • @nathanfrench952
      @nathanfrench952 7 дней назад

      Thank you. Won't waste my time watching it now.

  • @tvgerbil1984
    @tvgerbil1984 12 дней назад +5

    Bombing raids against Berlin in October 1943 severely damaged the Alkett plant which produced the highly successful StuG III assault guns. German High Command was so worried about the loss of production of the most effective armored fighting vehicles in its inventory that it had to divert production of tanks in an effort to make up some of the lost production of StuG III.

    • @slartybarfastb3648
      @slartybarfastb3648 11 дней назад +2

      And then the ball bearing factories became a priority which ground all vehicle production down.
      Attacking ancillary targets such as ball bearings and petroleum production may be more strategic than even the vehicle factories themselves.
      Akin to stopping a railroad by targeting a single bridge or tunnel instead of thousands of miles of track.

  • @cooa9951
    @cooa9951 9 дней назад +9

    Dresden did have a huge military significance. (19:42). The Soviet army was approaching Berlin and Dresden was the last major city between Berlin and the Soviets. This is where Germans would make a stand and try to stop the Soviets so Stalin asked the allies to demolish Dresden, which they did. That was huge help for the Soviet army.

    • @user-fd1sv1hi4r
      @user-fd1sv1hi4r 7 дней назад

      Incorrect, there is no proof of Stalin specifically requesting this. In fact the Soviets, knowing that they would win the war very shortly, were concerned that they would have a huge task of rebuilding infrastructure for the conquered population. The main argument that Harris and the RAF gave was that Dresden had a huge railway marshalling yard, but ironically, the rail yards were hardly damaged and the civilians were massacred. If the Allies had lost the war, Harris and his ilk would have been on trial for war crimes and rightly so

    • @ulfosterberg9116
      @ulfosterberg9116 5 дней назад

      Ever seen a map? Dresden is straight South from Berlin. It is as they say. "God allows war. It is the only way to teach geography to Americans".

    • @gibson617ajg
      @gibson617ajg 5 дней назад

      Dresden was also where there was a facility which produced chemical weapons that were used in both World Wars.

    • @jtasgl88
      @jtasgl88 4 дня назад

      No it wasn't.

    • @TheNelster72
      @TheNelster72 2 дня назад

      ​​@@ulfosterberg9116Did the Soviets just head in a straight line from Moscow? Seems a bit of a limited strategy. Stalin requested it. No idea how good his grasp of geography was.

  • @mavisformula
    @mavisformula 13 дней назад +64

    What is it with the scenes where they blur it out? I have noticed this recently and totally understand why people get frustrated by it, you do not watch these documentaries only to feel too sensitive to stomach seeing imagery of death in war!

    • @cesarvidelac
      @cesarvidelac 13 дней назад

      It's Google and its RUclips policies. They are actively censoring many images in video and sounds. Many documentaries are not allowed now, and RUclips don't accept exceptions to its rules, even for educational purposes.

    • @johnblasik9647
      @johnblasik9647 13 дней назад +30

      You Tube has determined that we can’t handle seeing “disturbing images”.

    • @arickquinton1268
      @arickquinton1268 13 дней назад +10

      They would get demonetized if they showed bodies. This series is so pro British they are disrespecting American Dominance during this era. Military equipment, financial support, military might, technology.

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 13 дней назад

      Put the blame on Boobtube and their silly backward rules. If you do this or don't do that you get hit with a - - - Violation. Kinda like communist censorship, only in the USA. Shalom

    • @xtr3m3fLx
      @xtr3m3fLx 13 дней назад

      @@arickquinton1268 ROFL Typical yank comment.

  • @craigbeatty8565
    @craigbeatty8565 13 дней назад +14

    Yes it was effective on so many levels. It kept 1m troops and 1700 aircraft tied down, that could have been better used elsewhere.

    • @ulfosterberg9116
      @ulfosterberg9116 9 дней назад +2

      And made the Russians get to Berlin first.

    • @craigbeatty8565
      @craigbeatty8565 7 дней назад +3

      @@ulfosterberg9116 No, Eisenhower let them. Russians lost between 20m-26m to the Germans.

    • @RafaelSantos-pi8py
      @RafaelSantos-pi8py 5 дней назад +2

      Not to mention thousands of AA guns placed in the west instead of the eastern front and the fact that the allied air campaign broke the back of the Luftwaffe wich was a prerequisite for a successful invasion of europe.

  • @Slaktrax
    @Slaktrax 12 дней назад +16

    If the bombing of cities in the UK hardened peoples' resolve, why did the RAF think it would be different in Germany?

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw 12 дней назад +2

      They thought they just needed to do more - and - towards the end it did have an effect on German Morale. It just didn't have that effect as soon as they thought it would.
      You have to remember - that no one had ever done this before. So - they were all operating off of theory - and - their implementation of that theory ran into problems associated with reality. The Americans stuck to the idea that they didn't really need bomber escorts far to long and crippled any efforts to develop Escorts or Drop Tanks. All the American Fighters were labeled as _"Interceptors"_ (like the Spitfire was). The Bomber Mafia saw the only use for Fighters as being to defend against Enemy Bombers.
      The only reason they let Lockheed develop Drop Tanks for the P-38 - was for the Reconnaissance version but as it happened the fighter version could use them too.
      There were other problems with the P-38's and with twin engines they tended to be used over water - like in the Med and the Pacific.
      Their loss rates got so high that they began working on better Drop Tanks and brought in the P-51's as Bomber Escorts but they got a lot of guys killed before that happened.
      Once it did - the American 8th Air Force destroyed the Luftwaffe - but - the Germans were really tough to beat - especially in 1942. The thing was - with the Axis Powers - they couldn't replace their losses - while the Americans and the Russians could.
      .

    • @rustykilt
      @rustykilt 9 дней назад +1

      At the time, it was the only way for Britain to hit back at Germany. Tactical bombing was very inaccurate at night, even for the 8TH Airforce during the day. Strategic bombing was still in its early days and not much was known of how effective it was. The idea of breaking the morale of those subjected to Area bombing was the intent, but history showed that it failed in every theatre. The fact that precious resources were diverted to trying to halt the Bombers was in itself a positive outcome.

  • @philiphumphrey1548
    @philiphumphrey1548 13 дней назад +15

    Some details wrong. The Rolls Royce Merlin engine gave the P51 Mustang altitude, not range (the previous Allison engine was great at low altitude but performance fell off over 15,000 feet). It was the use of drop tanks that gave the P51 (and the P47) range.

    • @margarita8442
      @margarita8442 13 дней назад +1

      and speed

    • @ThePowerline101
      @ThePowerline101 13 дней назад

      @@margarita8442 and acceleration

    • @TheDarthSoldier
      @TheDarthSoldier 13 дней назад +3

      He's right. The advent of wing tanks gave the plane range

    • @jackwinemiller8358
      @jackwinemiller8358 12 дней назад +1

      well I think you're right on the altitude side of it however the merlin engine did give the mustang a substantial increase in power which because it nearly doubled the effective altitude of the 51 also increased its range (aircraft fly farther at higher altitudes than lower ones, having said that, the use of the drop tanks also dramatically increased the range and loiter time over targets as well)

    • @margarita8442
      @margarita8442 12 дней назад +3

      higher altitude,, thinner air,, more range

  • @alanstevens1296
    @alanstevens1296 9 дней назад +8

    Questions about whether it reduced net German war materiel production?
    Without the bombing it may have doubled or tripled.
    Yes -- very successful.

  • @noboliNo
    @noboliNo День назад +1

    loved ww2 in colour documentary on Netflix

  • @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul
    @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul 9 дней назад +3

    What a huge waste of resources the Bismarck was.

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 7 дней назад

      Hindsight, or something else special about you...?

  • @burtvhulberthyhbn7583
    @burtvhulberthyhbn7583 2 дня назад +1

    Case in point. About 2/3rds of stg44 rifles were destroyed in transit by air power

  • @johnblasik9647
    @johnblasik9647 13 дней назад +9

    In total war strategic bombing targets all resources the enemy has, and one of the biggest is manpower, the civilian population. That’s the difference from limited to total war, nothing is out of bounds

    • @breamoreboy
      @breamoreboy 12 дней назад

      Yes, like the Germans using their Zeppelins and Gotta heavy bombers over Britain during WWI. They then bombed their way around Europe during WWII, including 40,000 killed at Stalingrad. But of course so many people still discuss Dresden, which only hit the headlines as Goebbels exaggerated the casualty figures by a factor of ten. Yet maybe 60,000 killed at Hamburg, and 100,000 at Tokyo, yet who discusses the latter?

  • @petepal55
    @petepal55 13 дней назад +15

    I've always figured the bombing was more retaliatory than strategic.

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад +4

      You figured wrong.

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад +3

      @@currentbatches6205 Say it to my face old man

    • @UnCuntained
      @UnCuntained 13 дней назад +2

      I think it was a little bit of both. More so probably before the mastered art it was retaliatory with limited effects. When they figured out how to do it effectively it was strategic.

    • @breamoreboy
      @breamoreboy 12 дней назад +5

      I haven't. For every gun pointing at British and US aircraft was one less pointing at the Soviet forces on the eastern front which was where the war was won.

    • @maryholder3795
      @maryholder3795 11 дней назад +1

      The problem with bombing civilians is it either hit the morale or made people dig their heels in.
      In Germany it was at first a shock but like the British citizen the Germans citizen dug their heels in.
      Carpet bombing like at Hamburg which had industrial site while Dresden hardly had any. The result was the fire storms. Was it justified at the time I'm guessing yes. Now I don't think it was.

  • @JACB006
    @JACB006 13 дней назад +5

    “Strategic Bombing was a controversial tactic” - From a German prospective or ours?

  • @nickdanger3802
    @nickdanger3802 8 дней назад +1

    Pointblank Directive issued June 1943
    "Redrafted by the Air Ministry, the directive tasked the 8th US Army Air Force with attacking the aviation industry; RAF Bomber Command would work towards 'the general disorganisation of German industry', as before."
    BBC Berlin Air Offensive page

  • @RossOneEyed
    @RossOneEyed День назад +1

    yes, it was worth it. The Germans utilized over 1 million men in anti-aircraft gunnery. That is a LOT of men that would/could have been on the front lines. Add to that the amount of war material involved in the production of AA guns and ammo.

  • @WatchListConnoisseur
    @WatchListConnoisseur 2 часа назад

    Churchill started the campaign of saturation bombing civilians in 1940, Germany did not begin bombing Britain until a few months later.

  • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
    @JohnDoe-tx8lq 13 дней назад +13

    In the middle of a War nobody really knows what's going on with the enemy, nobody can predict what any course of action will achieve and at what cost, right & right becomes very blurred. But doing NOTHING is always the worst option. The fact that this is still being debated & disputed 80 years later, with all our knowledge after the event, shows it was as legitimate & effective as any other action available at the time to win a World War.

    • @markpimlott2879
      @markpimlott2879 13 дней назад +2

      ....actually about 80 years later, eh?
      🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦

    • @forrestsory1893
      @forrestsory1893 13 дней назад +2

      Well said

    • @ChukwukaOnyedika-bq1ei
      @ChukwukaOnyedika-bq1ei 13 дней назад +2

      I think ur right

    • @sussinhardrn1048
      @sussinhardrn1048 5 дней назад +1

      Yep. On the battlefield, there was no way to know what equipment your enemy lacked due to bombing. There was never a situation like "Thank God we bombed the Porsche factories! Otherwise we would've faced approximately twice as many Tigers today." There can be assumptions about what effects you may be inflicting, but attributing specific numbers can't accurately be done during a conflict. Regardless, if you have the ability to strategic bomb an enemy without suffering unsustainable, you probably aren't hurting your chances of winning.

  • @rja9784
    @rja9784 10 дней назад

    War, war never changes

  • @mrivantchernegovski3869
    @mrivantchernegovski3869 10 дней назад +2

    bombing dosnt win wars but helps the effort ,Infantry takes and holds ground thats what wins wars fact

    • @rustykilt
      @rustykilt 9 дней назад

      Tactical. bombing.

    • @robertshaw5296
      @robertshaw5296 6 дней назад

      Is it any different then ordering a Squad of Inf to attack a MG position? It had to be taken out to win the war. War is horrible and should not be entered in to lightly. But when interred in to must be fought to the fullest, sadly that means civilian casualties. The same civilians some of whom make the weapons and ammo there military ues.

  • @williambarr3551
    @williambarr3551 8 дней назад +1

    Prior to the Mustang, USAAF command condemned bomber crews to suicide missions.

    • @user-ho9yp1le9u
      @user-ho9yp1le9u 4 дня назад

      P47 Thunderbolt after improvements to engine and climb rate (paddle prop) did most of the damage to luftwaffe prior to d-day. This fact frequently overlooked .

  • @currentbatches6205
    @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад +8

    If you have any questions regarding the issue, you need to read "How the War Was Won" (O'Brien). Not only was strategic bombing effective, but it did also win the war in Europe.
    You cannot fight with weapons which are not produced or languishing in the factories because there is no fuel available to get them where they were needed. Strategic bombing did that in the Western front.
    In the Pacific, Naval efforts combined with strategic bombing sufficed.

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад

      So

    • @alankucar8025
      @alankucar8025 13 дней назад

      That book is considered by many historians to be revisionist.

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 12 дней назад +1

      @@alankucar8025 It also happens to be extremely well researched and fits the facts, unlike many others.

    • @slartybarfastb3648
      @slartybarfastb3648 11 дней назад

      ​@@alankucar8025I consider people who were there at that time to be the experts. Historians who weren't would be the revisionists.

  • @iangill8984
    @iangill8984 2 дня назад

    A simple message, if you dont like the heat keep out of the kitchen. There is a saying, dont poke a sleeping bear with a sharp stick. What you sow, so shall thoqw reap. A bitter consequence of war. It plays out today.

  • @garetz2011
    @garetz2011 7 дней назад

    02:26 - I read on a book from the 60's that Luftwaffe dropped a few bombs in a part of London where the banks were located, with no victims, when they tried to hit a place named Thameshaven, and that was the excuse used by the british to drop bombs over civilians in Berlin. Since Luftwaffe bombers were designed to act as flying artillery in battlefield with two engine and dropping small bombs while the british had four engine bombers to drop huge bombs, I suspect Germany had only tactical bombers, which reveals the Germany was caught by surprise. Also "strategic" is to bomb factories or infrastructure, not murdering sleeping civilians at night. Schweinfurt was "strategic", bombings like Dresden were just war crimes, unpunished, but still war crimes.

    • @RafaelSantos-pi8py
      @RafaelSantos-pi8py 5 дней назад +1

      Dresden was a legitimate military target. It was a major road and railroad hub where the germans were amassing troops and supplies for the eastern front, that's why the soviets asked the allies to attack it. It hadn't been attacked before not because it wasn't a valid target but because other targets near the west were a priority.

  • @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul
    @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul 9 дней назад

    1000 bomber raid.
    That's why they call him Bomber Harris.

  • @gmbmedia28
    @gmbmedia28 8 дней назад

    Who's here after watching Masters of the air? 🏆

  • @user-po3ev7is5w
    @user-po3ev7is5w 11 дней назад +1

    Hmmm, the Japanese thought it was....

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz День назад

      I mean not really, they refused to surrender after most of their country had been lay to ruins...didn't even surrender after being nuked, it took a second one and they still weren't going to surrender until the emperor intervened to break the dead lock

    • @user-po3ev7is5w
      @user-po3ev7is5w День назад

      @@iitzfizz Actually the Emperor intervened after the Zhukov, leading the Red Army came into China and obliterated the Japs

  • @user-el3nu7qp1t
    @user-el3nu7qp1t 13 дней назад +5

    This is not strategic bombing. This is area bombing.

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад

      So?

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад +1

      Carpet bombing*

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад

      @@LemonHead-sq5ws So?

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад +3

      @@currentbatches6205 is your life that pathetic you waste your life writing “so”

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад

      @@LemonHead-sq5ws No, my intelligence is such that I challenge ignoramuses by posting "So?" You seem to be one of them; convince me otherwise or STFU. Pretty sure the latter is appropriate.

  • @user-ho9yp1le9u
    @user-ho9yp1le9u 12 дней назад +2

    it isnt controversial if people understood the situation the post Pearl Harbour ALLIES faced . 1, USSR demanded western allies open A SECOND FRONT early as possible1942 NORTHERN FRANCE. The western ALLIES were not militariy strong enough to do this. the best Churchill and fdr could offer was an ever increasing bombing of GERMAN CITIES,. IN JULY FDR commited to an opening of a second front at nw AFRICA (TORCH)november 1942.this was the only sensible decision UK/USA could make after loss of TUBRUK in june 1942, This was vital the ALLIES gained NAVAL SUPREMACY OF MEDITTERANEAN , TOO MUCH EFFORT was being wasted by having allied shipping supplying EGYPT and INDIA via CAPE OF GOOD HOPE SOTH AFRICA

  • @robertdelacruz2951
    @robertdelacruz2951 13 дней назад +2

    Again, a very good, if summary, documentary -- covering too many different topics.

  • @matthewjay660
    @matthewjay660 День назад

    I'm looking at the Black Gap and I'm thinking to myself, "Why isn't GREENLAND being used for Allied aerodromes?" Yes, it's covered in ice and snow. 1.) However, couldn't the Allies have fitted the planes with skis for landing gear? 2.)Couldn't they have built covered and heated aerodrome garages for the planes? 3.) Couldn't they have used bulldozers to move snow off of the runways? 4.) Would it have been at least possible to fly from Greenland during the SUMMER? I mean, Greenland was Danish 🇩🇰🇬🇱, and the Danes automatically became part of the Allies when the Germans conquered Denmark. Does anybody know why Greenland was not used by the Allies to cover the Black Gap? Thank-you for reading. 🙋🏻‍♂️🇺🇸🤝🇩🇰🇬🇱

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 12 дней назад

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage documentary about Nazism regime strategic bombarding failed by its airforces and Nazism naval confronted allies ( UK 🇬🇧 and the USA 🇺🇸) airforces and navy fleets during WW2

  • @johnbigglesfriend1289
    @johnbigglesfriend1289 7 дней назад

    Err harris was actually against bombing Dresden.but ordered by Churchill.who later denied this

  • @countfrankfritter
    @countfrankfritter 12 дней назад

    Show me a war that is not Total! After all the protagonist's are not Playing Tiddlywinks.

  • @jimthorne304
    @jimthorne304 12 дней назад +2

    The premise behind the 'Straegic Bombing' campaign was that it would lead to a collapse in German civilian morale, which in turn would affect German war production. This didn't happen, so the Strategic bombing campaign failed against its primary objective. However, it did lead to a substantial diversion of German resources away from the Eastern front, which weakened Germany's effectiveness in the war against the Soviet Union, and it therefore achieved something, if not what was originally intended.

    • @RafaelSantos-pi8py
      @RafaelSantos-pi8py 5 дней назад

      Or that was the excuse british authorities gave to the public because the real goal was to fight a war of attrition in the air to destroy the Luftwaffe before D-day.

  • @AB-ov1zm
    @AB-ov1zm 5 дней назад +1

    Churchill was a butcher

  • @AltCtrlSpud
    @AltCtrlSpud 13 дней назад +4

    Who else is watching this in 2021 :D

    • @leddielive
      @leddielive 13 дней назад +6

      Can I have a go in your time machine next?🤔

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      @smileygladhands 13 дней назад

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      @jimmydolphin9653 13 дней назад +1

      2024 yo

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      @jimmyj2354 13 дней назад +1

      2021? It 2004. March22nd

    • @mrwood4557
      @mrwood4557 13 дней назад +2

      Yeah, this 3rd COVID 19 lockdown slaps, thank god. For this channel.

  • @loungepuppy799
    @loungepuppy799 13 дней назад +2

    No it just killed a bunch of innocent civilians.

    • @Lassisvulgaris
      @Lassisvulgaris 13 дней назад +4

      So, a worker in an ammunition, aircraft or tank factory is an innocent civilian...?

    • @loungepuppy799
      @loungepuppy799 13 дней назад

      @@Lassisvulgaris no I'm talking about the intentional bombings of Dresden and Hamburg etc. that killed thousands of innocent women and children, they were not soldiers dude.

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад +4

      FDR said every boy-scout collecting scrap metal was the equivalent of a Marine on Guadalcanal. Japan armed teenagers with bamboo spears.
      Please tell us who is an "innocent civilian".

    • @markwilliams8369
      @markwilliams8369 13 дней назад

      Have a look at the National Socialist rallies, full of innocent civilians.

    • @loungepuppy799
      @loungepuppy799 13 дней назад

      @@currentbatches6205 yes that was right after he knew the japs were going to attack Pearl Harbor and didn't tell anyone about it. His dumb policies failed to get us outta the great depression but a war would do it.

  • @Steve1734
    @Steve1734 13 дней назад +5

    If the effect was to destroy Germanys arms industry, it failed. It was their lack of fuel that lost them the war. Germany produced more weapons and aircraft in 1944 than any other year. US bombing tactics were abysmal with some being 8 miles off target, and this was in daylight. When the lead plane dropped its bombs, all those behind did the same, going back as many as 12 miles. Some navigators never looked through a bombsight on missions because of this. They scrapped the upper and lower turret gunners to save weight because the British were getting the Mosquito to carry more than a B17, with a crew of two. Its 1935 design was showing. The Lancaster carried twice the bomb load with half the crew. It took the American 6 months to g train a B17 crew. It only took the British 3 weeks to train a Lancaster crew. Many Lancaster crew did over 200 missions by the end of the war. The Americans went home after 25.

    • @TheDarthSoldier
      @TheDarthSoldier 13 дней назад

      So what you're saying is that carpet bombing is the answer

    • @jerryg53125
      @jerryg53125 12 дней назад +1

      @Steve1734 British BS.You have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 12 дней назад +2

      SPAATZ: Which had the more effect in the defeat of Germany, the area bombing or the precision bombing ~
      GOERING: The precision bombing, because it was decisive. Destroyed cities could be evacuated but destroyed industry was difficult to replace.
      SPAATZ: Did the Germans realize that the American Air Forces by intention did only precision bombing ?
      -5­
      GOERING ~ Yes. I planned to do only precision bombing myself at
      the beginning.
      pdf Goering Interrogation - Jewish Virtual Library

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 12 дней назад +1

      DH98 Mosquito B.IX
      54 built
      1,680 hp Merlin 72 engines - otherwise as B.IV. 54 built. Could carry 2,000 lb internally, plus one 500 lb bomb or a drop tank under each wing. Some modified with bulged bomb bay doors for 4,000 lb bomb.
      BAE Mosquito page

    • @RafaelSantos-pi8py
      @RafaelSantos-pi8py 5 дней назад +1

      If the bombing crippled the germail oil supply, doesn't that count as "destroying the german arms industry"?

  • @stuartwilliams3164
    @stuartwilliams3164 7 дней назад

    If you dont want war don't start one, simple asHARRIS said sew the wind reap the whirlwind!!!

  • @partygrove5321
    @partygrove5321 12 дней назад +1

    What was a joke was the almost non-existent tactical air support the RAF and the French gave their troops in the crucial Battle of France in 1940; while the Luftwaffe terrorized the allied ground forces and knocked out bunkers and tanks left and right.

    • @breamoreboy
      @breamoreboy 12 дней назад +2

      Please spare a thought for the poor sods who went to attack German bridges in the three man, single engine Fairey Battle, as not many of them came back.

    • @partygrove5321
      @partygrove5321 11 дней назад +1

      @@breamoreboy The fliers were brave but the idiots who sent them into battle woefully unprepared with bad weapons and tactics in an obsolete plane were criminally incompetent. Originally the Fairey Battle was supposed to be a *STRATEGIC* bomber, until even the fatheads in Bomber Command saw the folly of a single engine strategic bomber.

  • @jasonjennings4349
    @jasonjennings4349 13 дней назад +2

    The British did not modify or improve the 51. They, in fact, firstly denied the supercharger on the aircraft which limited its high altitude performance. An American test pilot recommended the RR engine. You Brits are innovative but please try to get your history right.

    • @stargazer5784
      @stargazer5784 13 дней назад +1

      The reason that the first Mustangs arriving in Europe had the underperforming Allison engines was because the advanced 2 stage superchargers that yielded better high altitude performance were considered to be 'protected technology' that the US government didn't want exported overseas. Virtually all high performance aircraft engines of the period had some sort of turbo or supercharged air induction system to boost horsepower and the British certainly wouldn't have ordered them without one installed, regardless of the poor performance above 15,000 feet. The Mustang could have been built with a much better engine in the US, but a modified Allison, which wasn't even fully developed at the time, would have been longer in size requiring extensive and time consuming modifications to the airframe. Further, it was a Rolls Royce test pilot that first suggested that a Merlin engine be installed, and the rest is history. There were still some modifications required to accommodate the heavier Merlin engine, but it was an overall better fit. The final variant, the P-51D, had a licensed built by Packard, Rolls Royce Merlin V-1650. At the end of the day, it was a beautifully designed American fighter with an outstanding British designed engine and there's nothing wrong with that. No, I'm not from the UK, and you need to get your facts straight. This stuff is all freely available online.

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 12 дней назад +1

      The Merlin that was powerful enough to power the Mustang in 1943, didn't exist in 1940.

    • @jasonjennings4349
      @jasonjennings4349 11 дней назад

      @@richardvernon317 The Merlin was first introduced in 1933 and by 1937/38 was capable of 2160 hp. so you are wrong.

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 11 дней назад

      @@jasonjennings4349 No Merlin ever kicked out 2000HP ever bar a short life racing engine for an air speed attempt built in 1938 of which only one was built and it couldn't pass the required bench test life to allow it to be put in an aircraft. The Merlin didn't enter production until 1936. You really don't know what you are talking about and you should stop showing your ignorance on the internet.

    • @jasonjennings4349
      @jasonjennings4349 10 дней назад

      @@richardvernon317 you're wrong little boy.

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 13 дней назад +1

    8:00 Only 39 aircraft were lost... hah. That's more than like the entire Ukraine War so far. Wild the discrepancy in the size of the two conflicts.

  • @drewschumann1
    @drewschumann1 2 дня назад

    No. No it wasn't. At least not until the atomic bomb

  • @kat13man
    @kat13man 13 дней назад +1

    No, strategic bombing was not a success and needlessly cost many men's lives. The Germans said it was the tactical bombing of military supplies that was successful (9th AF). That prevented resupply as well as the supply of fuel to the combat units. Bombing train yards was a good idea. Nobody has ever explained by the Allies did not bomb the railways to the East of Germany which would have stopped the trains running to the Eastern front as well as the trains taking the last Jews to the death camps. Big question there.

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад +3

      You are not educated in the matter.

    • @breamoreboy
      @breamoreboy 12 дней назад +2

      Range of the bombers? Complete lack of fighter support?

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 12 дней назад +1

      SPAATZ: Which had the more effect in the defeat of Germany, the area bombing or the precision bombing ~
      GOERING: The precision bombing, because it was decisive. Destroyed cities could be evacuated but destroyed industry was difficult to replace.
      SPAATZ: Did the Germans realize that the American Air Forces by intention did only precision bombing ?
      -5­
      GOERING ~ Yes. I planned to do only precision bombing myself at the beginning.
      pdf Goering Interrogation - Jewish Virtual Library

  • @dolphfren
    @dolphfren 13 дней назад +3

    Was The Controversial of Strategic Bombing Tactic Actually Effective?
    A little late for this argument given the fact it was done almost 80 years ago

    • @jebbroham1776
      @jebbroham1776 13 дней назад +1

      The answer is no, no it wasn't. In fact it had the exact opposite effect of what it was thought would happen and it steeled the resolve of both the German and Japanese population to fight on, and to fight harder.

    • @dennisseah9403
      @dennisseah9403 13 дней назад

      Strategic bombing is never effective. Only delusional morons actually believe that. History already proven it failed many times.
      WW2 Europe, WW2 Japan, Vietnam, and even the war in Ukraine.

    • @dolphfren
      @dolphfren 13 дней назад +1

      @@jebbroham1776 The resolve of both the German and Japanese population to fight on, and to fight harder was not my point.
      My point is you can't change the past.
      Yet almost 80 have pasted yet people are still arguing over the tactic was effective or not.
      As if answer one way or another could somehow bring the people that died as a result of the bombing back to life.
      The argument is both stupid and useless

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад

      @@jebbroham1776 The answer is, 100%, YES. Read O'Brien or offer a cite to the contrary.

  • @dennisforbes2532
    @dennisforbes2532 13 дней назад +9

    There are no civilian's in war. Everyone does there bit for their country. Yes it did work. We won didn't we duh!

  • @samuelpankonien4084
    @samuelpankonien4084 13 дней назад +2

    This is hugely biased on British. And not the real monster of Americans

    • @thefreestylefrEaK
      @thefreestylefrEaK 13 дней назад

      Your grammar is hideous.

    • @nickdanger3802
      @nickdanger3802 12 дней назад

      For most of the war in Europe USAAF targets were selected by the British.

  • @jebbroham1776
    @jebbroham1776 13 дней назад +3

    The only enemy it worked on was the Italians. The German and Japanese populations on the other hand were not discouraged or demoralized by the bombing campaigns in ANY way, quite the opposite in fact.

    • @dnp7162
      @dnp7162 13 дней назад +1

      The Japanese public was lied to by their government for the first couple of years. Their news stated that dozens of US ships were sunk and hundreds of planes destroyed every encounter with the emperor’s forces. They were shocked when the strategic bombing campaign kicked off turning their cities and industries into rubble. I don’t know if that demoralized them, but it definitely brought them to reality and let them know (even if they wouldn’t say it) that their emperor was lying.

  • @LemonHead-sq5ws
    @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад +2

    No it wasn’t accurate at all it was pretty much a vengeance weapon and anti morale weapon it killed indiscriminately and weakened morale

    • @currentbatches6205
      @currentbatches6205 13 дней назад

      It did not have to be "accurate" to win the war. Which it did.

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад

      @@currentbatches6205 So

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад

      @@currentbatches6205 you are annoying af don’t say 💩 to me

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад

      @@currentbatches6205 I want to know what you look like tbh I’m curious 😅 lmao

    • @LemonHead-sq5ws
      @LemonHead-sq5ws 13 дней назад

      @@currentbatches6205 didn’t win 💩 whatever comes out your mouth is nonsense

  • @edistojimbo
    @edistojimbo 13 дней назад

    Could you fit anymore effing ads on your video???

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 13 дней назад +3

      Download the video and watch it off line on your computer. No ads~! Shalom

  • @michaelwilber9889
    @michaelwilber9889 12 дней назад

    America didn't enter the European war until late 1943.

  • @loungepuppy799
    @loungepuppy799 12 дней назад

    You guys are just now admitting that the Allies bombed mass numbers of innocent civilians? They committed tons of atrocities too. Obviously it angers you guys when someone presents you with the truth. Neither side should have bombed civilians and it was definitely a war crime when the US dropped the atomic bombs on Japan

    • @mikearmstrong8483
      @mikearmstrong8483 11 дней назад +1

      No, it was not a war crime. Learn what that term actually means before tossing it around to represent your personal opinion.

    • @loungepuppy799
      @loungepuppy799 11 дней назад

      @@mikearmstrong8483 According to the rules of war it WAS a war crime and you don't know what you're talking about.

    • @romanshutov8572
      @romanshutov8572 11 дней назад +1

      ​@@loungepuppy799it was the only way, what was the alternative?

  • @johnwymer1215
    @johnwymer1215 13 дней назад +3

    Shame we lost WWII...if Germany had REAL leadership we would have won. WWII shouldnt have had to happen but no choice. Allies forced both world wars.

    • @thefreestylefrEaK
      @thefreestylefrEaK 13 дней назад +1

      No it's not a shame you lost but a good thing. Go back to playing your tiny violin.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 13 дней назад +4

      Allies forced both world wars? I don’t recall the British going to war with Serbia or invading Poland. And America turned up late for both…

    • @shawnjohnson9763
      @shawnjohnson9763 12 дней назад +4

      ​@bob_the_bomb4508 we didn't get invited to your party. But we were there for most of it and you couldn't have done it without us.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 12 дней назад +2

      @@shawnjohnson9763 the point I was making was that the OP can’t realistically blame the US for starting wars that it only joined much later…

    • @laudsrealm188
      @laudsrealm188 7 дней назад +1

      Interesting world you live in

  • @antonrudenham3259
    @antonrudenham3259 13 дней назад +3

    Civilians have ALWAYS been considered a legitimate target in warfare, awful but true.
    If you can starve a population of a besieged city you won the siege, it's just a small step away from dropping bombs on them.
    However, RAF carpet bombing was a total failure and the immense resources wasted on building Bomber Command should have been spent on the army, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of men performing mundane tasks on airfields all over the UK while whole infantry divisions were being disbanded to provide much needed reinforcements for other units.
    I believe that if BC had been scaled back to 50 Mosquito bomber squadrons and no heavies the war may have ended sooner.

    • @breamoreboy
      @breamoreboy 12 дней назад +1

      As you're clearly an expert please explain the impact of the estimated 50,000 anti-aircraft guns defending the west that would have been used on the Soviet armour in the east, where the war was won. Thank you in anticipation.

    • @rustykilt
      @rustykilt 9 дней назад

      What about the 8th AIRFORCE? It was the same result for them.

    • @antonrudenham3259
      @antonrudenham3259 8 дней назад

      @@rustykilt
      On the rare occasion when the skies were clear over Europe and the Germans didn't shroud the target with a smokescreen the 8th and 15th AF bombing results were good but their main contribution once US LR fighter escort became commonplace in early 44 was the rapid wearing down and eventual near destruction of the western Luftwaffe day fighter force before D Day in June 44 and that combined with their inconsistently good bombing results made their efforts very worthwhile indeed, especially considering how easily the USA could afford such an enterprise without jeopardising other areas of their war effort.

    • @RafaelSantos-pi8py
      @RafaelSantos-pi8py 5 дней назад +2

      The allied air campaign did achieve one major task, wich was the destruction of the Luftwaffe, even if by attrition. That was vital for the success of D-day.

    • @user-ho9yp1le9u
      @user-ho9yp1le9u 4 дня назад

      what a load of rubbish. SIR ANTONY BEEVOR DESCRIBES IN DETAIL RAF ACHIEVMENTS. SHOULD READ IT

  • @daveerk6573
    @daveerk6573 9 дней назад

    RUclips censorship at work 🤡

  • @minrityreprt6302
    @minrityreprt6302 4 дня назад

    Ummm....yes. Worked in Japan as well. Anyone who doesn't understand this is ignorant.