It's Time to Reintroduce Kamala to America! (w/ Elaina Plott Calabro) | Bulwark Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- This is not a moment for a politician's origin story or soaring oratory. Some think that means dancing with the one that brung ya. But maybe it’s a moment for someone who could prosecute the case against Donald Trump-making it a perfect time to reintroduce Kamala Harris to voters. Elaina Plott Calabro and Bakari Sellers join Tim Miller.
Check out part 1 of today's show with Bakari Sellers here: • The Case for Riding wi...
show notes
Elaina's story, "The White House’s Kamala Harris Blunder": www.theatlantic.com/politics/...
0:00 - Intro
1:29 - Elaina Plott Calabro’s Profile on Kamala Harris
2:49 - Why Did Joe Biden Pick Harris for VP?
7:17 - How Confidence in Harris Changed
11:52 - Harris’ Strengths as VP
14:42 - How Harris Can Present in a Stronger Way
21:19 - Kamala Harris’ Origin Story
24:28 - Why Harris Talks About Coconut Tree
27:31 - Joe Biden’s Campaign’s Messaging on Harris
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I would feel much better with Kamala Harris as President. I've been impressed with her for a few years now.
Me too, but I was in the minority about her abilities.
She doesn't poll as well as Biden, and you know there are a lot of people who would never vote for her, because they're very dumb. I really think that Biden chose her as VP to help her become President someday - either by taking over for him when he kicks the bucket, or by getting that incumbent bonus in 2028. He's shown for his whole Presidency that he's trying to get more black women in positions of power. Or maybe he'll step down in a couple years, for health reasons? Yes, the first time I saw her, I thought, "she's probably going to be President someday!" I'm looking forward to it.
I'm all for Harris, if Joe resigns to show he trusts her to take the reigns. But your audience isn't who needs to be convinced. It's not up to us at this stage.
I don't think Kamala can beat Trump.
Dem delegates are not bound to Biden! Why is this not being talked about?
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They need to do a national address to tell people that our democracy is at risk. This is a national emergency. Treat it like one.
Joe just needs to do his best. What more can we ask? /s
they're attempting to balance seeming competent with seeming like they're not panicking. in reality, neither is bearing out.
Project 2025 is online. Folks can read it for themselves.
Convict Trump would be in Gitmo already if we had a strong president.
@@davidmccarthy6061Strong Attorney General maybe. We can thank Garland for Trump's cases being slow walked. He has also not done enough on voting rights and gerrymandering, leaving it to groups like Mark Elias. He was a bad pick.
Her White House team sucks. Kamala is amazing! I’ve loved her since she was the AG in CA.😊
bad supervisor ....
Not sure it's her White House team. She ran a crap campaign and Ezra Klein's in depth profile shows that Kamala isn't a great manager. My concern is she gets defensive and smug. I also think she's smart.
We are voting blue - no matter who - to defeat Project 2025. That’s the bottom line.💙
I believe that bottom line should make Democrats confident that it's okay to switch candidates if need be, because we Independents who love democracy will vote against fascism no matter what. Instead, they are all biting us 😢
You don't speak for me.
Voting blue!
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@@Brad25243Vote blue for democracy
Not red for dictatorship
Dump Trump today USA!
Biden forever❤
The campaign needs to get Kamala out into middle America. That's where the Presidency will be won. Not simply speaking to black audiences. Let them see what an intelligent and engaging woman she is. Get those positivity ratings up and win in 2024.
This!!! 1000%!! Kamala has one distinct advantage that everyone is overlooking: While everyone knows her name, she's still a relatively unknown quantity. And, as anyone familiar with political campaigns knows, that gives you the opportunity to shape her in front of the voting public's eyes.
Oh brother. She would- and will- lose in historic fashion. She cannot win this election for Democrats. She is deeply unpopular everywhere. There’s a reason her run at the Presidency tanked. Even Democrats don’t like her. The more you push this pointless narrative, the more you bring the next Trump Presidency to life.
@@hammill444 Some people (Hillary) just aren’t likable.
Kamala has been all across the midwest the past six months. She can't help it if the press only covers her at 'black' events...
when you record a song and the performance is bad no amount of mixing can polish a turd ...
I DID wonder if she was getting bad campaign advice by having to downplay her background as a prosecutor - a dirty word in some circles. I was always a fan of her authenticity and so it was glaring to me when it went south in the campaign. She’s underestimated by most, I believe.
He should have picked someone else and made Kamala AG. She would have had Trump and his cronies in jail already.
Perhaps.
I’ve been saying that for years
☹☹☹☹
Likely correct
Maybe she could, only if the very corrupt SCOTUS didn't deflect everything for Convict Trump.
I remember there being a lot of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris when she was elected as senator here in California. I didn't know most of these positive stories about her vice presidency. I don't expect a ton of coverage of the vice president, but the fact that we haven't heard anything about her trips abroad is a massive failure both of the media and the Biden/Harris administration.
Yes but the VP is not supposed to take the spotlight off the leader.
@@timapple9157 Right, but we should at least have some idea what she’s doing, especially in an administration where the VP has such a high chance of being called upon to take over for the president. Love the Tim Apple username btw.
@@bluesdjben Thanks, there is another way, you can inform yourself and not wait to be told what to think.
@@timapple9157 True, that works for those of us who follow politics closely, but the average undecided voter is not going to be researching the vice president's schedule and accomplishments, so they are just going to accept the negative vibes without bothering to look deeper. They need the information put in front of them.
Hell yes! Regardless of whether Biden stands down or not. There now needs to be an obvious successor. Ego needs to go out the window in the interests of democracy.
Kamala Harris has always impressed me as smart, quick, and wise. I don’t see why this conversation is taking place. My only complaint is that she’s not been more involved and visible.
She’s a brilliant lady and a great backup to a great President!!!
Could you be more wrong? She’s done nothing other than securing the border.
Explain to me why we need to switch gears and put her at the top of the ticket? She’s already on the ticket! Joe (and Jill) failed Kamala by not supporting her and helping her grow into the role HE chose her to do. She had a bad interview with Lester and so now Joe is asking us not to judge him from one bad night? How’s that different? She’ll be a really good president IMO. I’m voting blue no matter who.
How do you know it was Biden who sidelined Kamala? I've also heard Kamala was skittish after the Lester Holt interview.
I did see someone comment on a video today that he wouldn’t be voting for Biden again because running a 2nd term is the opposite of what he ran on (my worry being resentful voters as rationality doesn’t always win the day - ask Hillary). He ran on passing the torch (Harris was one of my favs and I’m still a fan). I’m a Biden supporter and have donated to the campaign; however, I do not believe the debate will be the last on camera campaign-damaging moment. We absolutely can’t survive another.
I like and respect Kamala so much. I wish i could trust that the rest of the country could see that too. 😒
Harris has a great speech in las Vegas today check it out!
Totally coconut pilled. And proud. ❤
When I voted for Biden in 2020, I thought I was voting for Harris to take over shortly. I thought Biden would get to the 100 days and then resign. But after the election, she disappeared. I was shocked.
People have been all like ‘oh no, not Kamala’ with no substance to really back it up.
It’s because they are afraid of Kamala. She is qualified AND she is black. The VP has to be the opposite. See McCain-Palin. See Obama-Biden. See Trump-Pence. In a very diverse country, it is important these communities are represented. P.S. Kamala is not a quitter. Like Nikki Haley.
She's apologized for some of her most atrocious behaviors in the past. That's what we have to accept. She was known for not wanting to share possibly exonerating information with defense attorneys, wanting to use prison labor, and other unethical and strict things, like plenty of criminalizing marijuana.
Not sharing potentially exonerating evidence is flat out disgusting.
She has definitely not distinguished herself the last 4 years. Guess I’ll wait to see if a “New Kamala” emerges.
@carrieohio, they interviewed several public defenders who worked with Harris and they said as a prosecutor“she was one of the good ones”. She also focused on equity, making sure that marginalized communities weren’t getting railroaded into bad deals while giving white defendants sweetheart deals. It’s true that she did not take up Kevin Coopers case to retest his DNA, this was after the conviction so she wasn’t hiding evidence from anyone, Hariisbdidbregret not retesting the DNA but you have to understand how many cases they have and how many convicts want something like this done. The system is not perfect and we have a finite amount of time and money for each case. Sometimes it comes down to “retest convicted murderer Kevin Coopers dna or test a recent rape kit”.
Incidentally, Kevin Coopers DNA has been retested, thanks to Kim Kardashion, and it was 100% his DNA found at the scene. He murdered a mother and father and two little kids.
Next time don’t get your information from Tulsi Gabbard or Kim Kardashian.
She’s had one job and I think all Americans agree that she’s done great on the border . That alone qualifies her to be president .
Great discussion Tim. I don’t know about that hat, my parents both went to Tulane.
Kamala was my first choice and primary vote in 2020, even then I knew Biden was the ultimate choice to beat Trump.
It’s a real quandary, I do know we need to prosecute Trump and Project 2025 in the court of public opinion, 6 jurors (swing states). That’s the task at hand.
Thank you for this episode. I admit Ive been frustrated at the amount of ranting about Biden you guys have done. This was an excellent focus on Harris' humanity.
Haven't ALL VP's fall into the "NO Credit BS" in the position??? They all get this type of .... they do nothing, right???
Exactly right.
Kamala can run with the slogan, do it for Joe! Then she can run on all of his accomplishments.
Loved Elaina. So much insight about Harris. So informative. Can't wait for her next article.
Tim is an extraordinary talent!
NO ONE should "remove" President Biden.... AND President Biden SHOULD remove himself and step aside for #Kamala2024.
Racist, sexist America will not elect Kamala president. It's just not happening. As much as we wish they would.
This country is not up for electing a woman for President
Ain't gonna happen. Biden WILL be re-elected. The Bulwark just yammers on anyway.
@@chrishowell4845 it already did once-the Electoral College is why she didn’t serve.
@@SnoozeAddict Common sense America won’t either.
Thank you so much! This helps inform on what a future Harris/? ticket would look like 💜
Harris/Sanders?
The big blue wave and if our VP is stepping up to the presidency, she would quickly fill the role!
Speaking as a fellow disenfranchised Republican, um...
It's starting to look a lot like a long-game psy-op in here
If effing drumpf can be President,surely Kamala can be so,and much better at it
Stop it. Bulwark, please stop it. No no no.
What If Kamala had been a more skilled office manager? Her missteps in personnel management made many of us uncomfortable.
NO NO NO NO KAMALA! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???
GO BIDEN 💙💙💙💙
No need to shout!
#Patriots4Harris2024
Biden needs to get the Hell out of the way -- NOW!
Harris Sanders 2024
I disagree. I think Kamala should stay in the background. She's unappealing 😅for right-leaning independents who are not ready for a black female from California to be up front and center. Personally I am ready, but right now it's all about preserving democracy.
@rl95719
Kamala is Indian, not black.
24:14 Let Kamala be Kamala
❤️ Ridin' with Biden/Harris 2024! 🤍 Save our Democracy - Vote BLUE! 💙
HELL NO to Trump the FELON! And HELL NO to Project 2025! 🤬
can anyone name 3 positive and noteworthy things harris did as california AG or as a senator ?? so far it's been silence ....
this is so dumb lmao isn't "positive" subjective? Can you name positive things Pence did as governor? Can you name positive things Dick Cheney did as as rep from Wyoming? Also Kamala only served 1 term in the senate during a republican (and worst) president. Seems like you are holding a woman of color to a higher standard.
Excellent. Thx
I love that Elaina is wearing wired headphones just like Kamala does!
In half the time used by Ezra Klein, Tim Miller surfaced twice the useful insight into Kamala Harris’s character and her potential as the Democrat’s standard bearer than Klein was able to muster in his somber, almost funereal assessment of the Vice President’s history and chances in the fall.
The choice of guests made a big, big difference; but even more than that, whereas Klein seemed to be on a mission to find problems with the very notion of Harris stepping into the spotlight at this life-or-death moment in the story of American democracy, Tim and his guest picked through a very sketchy track record compiled by the VP in Biden’s current term to find the nuggets that could credibly serve as proxies for her future performance as President.
It was a useful 30 minutes vs. a slack and downbeat hour. And it cast a searching light on the question of why Biden reneged on his promise to pass the torch onto the next generation of this country’s leaders, as embodied in Vice President Harris-a question that goes to Biden’s character, and explains to some degree the mess he’s made for himself. Great job!
They should have had Harris working with a voice coach. Her biggest stumbling block is the way she speaks. Kamala was attorney general and Senator to a state with the worlds 5th largest economy and a large population that has MANY immigrants. We elected her to 4 or 5 PUBLIC offices in California. They not only didn't support her they purposely sidelined her after the election just so Biden could run for a second term after he had stated he wouldn't. But she NEEDS A VOICE COACH NOW!!!!!!
I was thinking how all of these people have annoying voices. Biden, Trump, Harris, Newsom and God help us all, RFK. It's bizarre.
There's nothing wrong with her voice.
She's the daughter of immigrants, btw.
WHY?
@@Terry-lh8cn MAGAs sounds much, much worse. 😂
If Joe proves to be too tired in the end, then the solution is actually pretty simple: Flip the ticket. Put Harris on top so they keep the incumbency and she can go out and kick Trump's ass every day, and we all get to keep the benefit of Biden's experience and knowledge of the inner workings of DC as VP.
Just afraid of the bigotry and misogyny in the U.S. and Kamala is not Obama.
Hey, actually a good idea and saves on new poster costs.
@@timapple9157 😁
Harris is very underestimated imo..in fact she is a very succesfull girl in many ways and she done a lot of good things but unfortunate,she allways been in the shadow,dont know why,if she been "pushed" there or what..but she can do the job for sure
Very insightful. Lots of info to inform the she hasn't done anything voters.
I think it would also be a public service for the bulwark to talk about section 4 for the 25th amendment to the Constitution. There really is no need to worry about Joe.
Spot on. Thank you. Great job. Love the Atlantic. I now say - Biden won’t make all the openings - it’s too much.
Tell Kamala the Prosecutor to go on Hannity and get in his face about her experience prosecuting fellons and how a president harris would be tough on crime especially at the border
Please let her have free reign!!!!! Go Kamala!!!
Vote blue!!
Tell Kamala to read up about the correspondence between Julia Sand and Chester A. Arthur.
To be honest,will never get this woke ish approach.."this time need to be a woman or man or black or white or gay".or what ever..its pretty weird to me at least..should allways be "we need the BEST candidate"
Thank you for this episode!!! We need President Harris now!! She is awesome. She’s strong, quirky, sexy, and smart as hell. Biden has stifled her light long enough!
She’s sure done a good job job fixing the border.
@@James-hd4ms almost like you didn't listen to the podcast
DK why everybody with a "respectable" opinion thinks it just HAS to be Kamala.
Because an open convention would be a Battle Royale, and all the divisions within the party will be on full display. Imagine Israel-Gaza being a central debate on the convention floor.
Kamala, because she is the VP, is the only person that people can consolidate behind in a closed convention with all Biden delegates voting for her.
Oh my god. I haven’t listened. But predebate I know Tim miller talked about how horrible it would have been if Biden had been one term had been more aggressive because of it and then a progressive Harris would have been the successor. It felt like a relief that moderate Biden was the choice. Now Kamala is the savior?
Do you remember the 2020 Primary? Our first impression was a poor one. There is a reason she was lagging well behind. Have you read her book?
I will vote against Trump, but asking me to be enthusiastic about Kamala Harris is a step too far. Joe Biden knows the office of the Vice President better than anyone and I hoped he would do a better job in development.
Kamala relied on "Gotcha ambush moments". Not the strongest prepared debator.
Actually you don't remember 2020! She lead the race at a certain part of that primary.
All she needs to do is vigorously prosecute the case against Trump. I'm confident she can do that.
did you not listen to the podcast?? They literally said she struggled in a *primary* to separate herself from the field but she is untested in the general. And what's wrong with her books??
I cannot understand why Newsom is not already the nominee.
there are many reasons even though I love my gov. 1) Biden has the delegates so only he can allow for a new nominee. 2) Can't have more than 1 Californian on the ticket 3) can't replace Kamala without major backlash. I will not vote and let MAGA go at it for 4 years if Kamala is pushed out. Living in a blue state will protect me mostly worst case anyways since SCOTUS loves state rights so much🥰
NO SHE SLAGGED HIM OFF
On the Kamala "origin story" stuff.. doesn't she have a strong immigrant story? Am I making that up?? Or do most of the Americans running around right now hate that?
Maybe real insiders remember the Lester Holt interview. I'm pretty tuned in, and I don't remember the Lester Holt interview.
Biden's deal with James Clyburn made Harris VP. That said, she's incredibly smart, capable, and would be a great President.
I have been so disappointed in the role Harris was allowed to play. She’s bright and strong. A great AG for Cali. One of the strongest Senators questioning witnesses. Biden seems to feel she gets to talk to women and black groups. The loyalty bit is demeaning.
She actually is the reason I felt OK about voting for Biden
VOTE JOE!!! He hasnt quit on us ... We WONT QUIT HIM!!!
you better look at the polls, problem is voters are quitting him
I’m voting for the alley cat.
You sold me on Kamala! She's the perfect VP for this moment, especially when it comes to prosecuting Donald Trump. The Biden team just needs to revisit the reasons they chose her in the first place and emphasize those strengths moving forward.…😅 or as Presidential Candidate🎉
Kamala and Liz! Women power? Think America is ready?
We are at an unprecedented time where we have the opportunity to reach across the aisle and show the American people that we are truly bipartisan and want all Americans to succeed. We are one people, and in this 2024 election, we could be one ticket!
Anything is possible, including both sides coming together to overcome challenges and possibly bring stability to the entire political system. We can show how Americans should treat their political opponents in good faith, with a warmer embrace and not with fists.
This is America-it’s time to lead!
A unity ticket is a must to win decisively!
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Get M. Obama, who reportedly doesn't like politics, to run as her VP and defeat Trump. Obama can be here quiet "Dick Cheney" in the background.
I don’t remember the Lester Holt interview
This is the problem with the “Diversity Bingo” game.
Woman? Check.
Black? Check.
Multicultural? Check.
BINGO!!!
Don’t get me wrong. I’m definitely NOT against a woman or minority for any office. I’d love to see Whitmer + Moore: which would win in a landslide.
It’s just when you start playing Diversity Bingo as the start, rather than looking for a winning team, you end up with flawed candidates that allow a dictator to win.
If Harris gets bypassed, the Democrats will lose the black vote
Gave us a secure border? Check.
Yes, you are or wouldn't bring it.
Whitmer has already said "No.".
@James-hd4ms Tell your House representative to support the agreement accepted by Biden and the Senate.
Instead of suggesting that Biden drop out and Kamala Harris run instead, maybe let the guy who's been doing an amazing job (even if MSM never reports on it) keep going until he falls over, and be happy that maybe she'll be President soon? She's quite popular, but a lot of people would vote for Biden, who would never, ever vote for her.
oh good .. another yale grad from the atlantic & new york times .. do we ever get some other types of people or just more of the same from the 'club' .. ?? this is getting to be more like franken's show and guests ... let's see what our classmates have to say ...
Lol now Harris is pushing out Joe
step aside shep aside! what is this alley cat medicare?
heres a question - where is trump's nominated vp? he acts like he doesnt want one ... more so just like a putin ... i wouldnt be surprised. im all for VP Harris all the way ...
VP Harris was and is a powerful prosecutor...she knows the score and the rules. I am amazed at all the nefarious implications you continue to deliver. How about give credit where credit is due....
Momala can do it!
Unfortunately I don’t think she would win.
It is so funny watching conservatives stan for Kamala.
Gee, and why do you think they ate doing that?
@@hammill444 got boxed out of power and naturally migrate along the path of least resistance in hopes of regaining it
I am beginning to think thier job is to make sure trump win
I thought Biden should have picked Susan Rice as his VP. She impressed me as being very bright, experienced, diplomatic and authentic. Instead he chose the rock star. Kamala is still quite capable, but as a candidate in 2020 anyway, she struck me as a little phony. I'm hoping that she has matured during her tenure in this administration. I'd love to see her in a debate with Trump or his VP. She'd eat MAGA alive.
Is this person a friends of Harris? She seems like she is doing pr for her.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
-George Orwell
Yes reintroduce. BUT, watch Biden NATO speech. Obama could not do better. Brilliant
To be fair... Biden was reading from a teleprompter. You can seem him looking to the far left or right most the time and rarely moving his gaze to the middle of the crowd and when he does he stumbles.
💙💖
No respect for the Bulwark any more
Love the conversation. Im not sure America will vote for a woman president although I dont see why not. I would love to see Joe step aside and let her run for the election this fall. I think President Biden has a good chance of losing at this point and Vice President Harris would be a younger stronger image going forward, not to mention she has great experience so far with all her interactions with world leaders.
Wasn’t she close to Beau?
I don’t think anyone expected her to solve immigration. She could’ve just shown up at the border… She did want to be in charge of Nordic Countries… but not the ones close to our borders… she could’ve tackled something hard and even impossible… look how much everyone cares about immigration…
Did you not listen to the podcast? *She was not in charge of the border*. She was in charge of root causes of immigration which is why she toured central and south america. Everyone remembers the "Do not come" clip and even the podcast states there is no measure of success for reducing root causes of immigration so it set her up to fail. I get that illegal crossings could be a measure however as the VP she literally has no power over the border directly.. only executive action from Biden could do anything.
Stop focusing on Biden and keep going after the REAL PROBLEM, TRUMP!
Why wouldn’t you want a strong VP? Vice President Kamala Harris will prosecute the case against Trump. Period! She is the former AG of California and a former US Senator. She will tear Trump’s ass up! Believe that! All conversation and speculation is mute. She will show America who she is and that’s a very capable woman!!
So this is great. It wasn't that long ago that Tim was really down on VP Harris. But we're seeing some real growth here on Tim's part, and after Biden wins in 2024, Tim will now be all-in on getting Harris elected in 2028.
It might ease people's apprehensions about Harris if the administration put out videos of her enteracting with officiala abroad but also here. I don't care for her personality but don't have any reason to doybt her ability to takw over. I just feel there are a number of people who are qualified and have the ability to get people exvited about voting. could
Oh my goodness. Seriously?
Biden picked Harris because she was a black woman. I believe you need to always hire the best person for the job. Harris is a competent woman but she lacks speaking skills and the ability to win over audiences. It is sad that matters but it does. I do believe it is possible she has been set up to fail but every time I saw her speak she struggled. How long does it take to prepare a person to speak well??? She always ends her sentences 8 octaves higher that ends up irritating the listener. I am starting to think that Biden is allot more self serving than he claims to be since he has not stepped down. I will vote blue this year no matter what so it matters more to what the swing voter, independents, and double haters want.
Joe Biden all the way!!!
Biden-Harris 2024
Wasn’t being introduced to her once bad enough?
Apparently not.
Geaux Tigers; Geaux Donkeys; Geaux Kamala
Ooh la la! You must be French!🙄
Those eyebrows are ALIVE!
they look fine to me and suit her face. besides, bushier eyebrows are in fashion now. shows what ya know.
That's because they're caterpillars 😎
If you think she is the solution...you have it so wrong..
Just give the keys to trump now.
You gonna vote for Trump?
Why do you say that? It's lack of vision that makes us vulnerable to fascism in the first place! Shapiro and Harris would electrify the country with an empowering vision of American democracy going forward!
@@MOEMMOH The undecided voters will.
Exactly right
@@James-hd4ms not if she can make the case for her being a good candidate, which is not impossible.