I have both TC Scout handgun and scout carbine/rifle in 50 cal. Very nice target blasting at the range. Cast my own 370gr. Lee Maxi-Ball, they come out very good. I do like to load the round ball though. I bought them when they first came out up in Rochester N.H, not far from my home in Plaistow, N.H. I always had a special love for these firearms. Im 75 and do like my guns.
Hope you both are dong well with the storm coming at you. Stay safe. Interesting background on this, Scott. Well said! It was neat to see the parts explained too. Cheers.
The Scouts came with their own specific wrench. I didn’t see the spring steel that slides into the hammer to prevent dropping primers into the action. It is sad that Thompson Center is no more😢 I really wish somebody would bring back the Renegade Rifle.
If you can find one in serviceable condition, GRAB IT! It’s kind of a guilty pleasure really. It’s not like a CVA, or a Traditions won’t do the same thing. But the Scout is pure fun.
My favorite rifle of all time is the winchester lever action of which I have 2 in 3030 and 32 special. So, yeah, I'd like to find one of those scouts. Think I'd like it.
Never knew this model existed until I went to a recent gun show and there were two on the table. One appeared to be never shot. Key chain with American flag and TC logo hanging from the trigger guard.
I always loved the concept of the scout and scout pistol but you're right they showed up on the market they disappeared and I've never actually seen a live one in my life, even trying to find one on the internet you'd think it never existed. I'd still like to find one or see them reintroduce it
Anything is possible now I guess. They did show a Scout pistol in one of their recent videos. The old ones are fairly scarce. I’d been waiting for one to pop up for years. Then, one day I spotted one in the corner of a small gun store. Owner said he’d taken it in trade years ago, and I was probably the first one ever show any interest. They are around, but some folks don’t know what they are.
Some actually came with composite stocks. You have to remember, they just look historic. They were first released in 1992. I just got lucky in finding a fancy one. As far as I know, none of them hold much value yet. I just always wanted one. Used black powder guns don’t hold much value anyway. I think I bought mine like 2 years ago, and I think I paid $150 for it. The biggest reason they’re hard to find, is that they only made them for a few years, and they were competing with other, more modern inlines. I would’ve bought one with the synthetic furniture, if that’s what I found. There aren’t a lot of records as to how many of each type were produced. But I’ve seen several variants. I believe mine is actually a “Texas Scout” and was produced for Gander Mountain.
I bought 3 BP rifles for $180 at a yard sale, one kit assembled kentucky long .45 cal rifle, a rossi break in-line .50 cal muzzle loader, and a thompson center hawken with set triggers .50 cal. That thompson center hawken is my go-to BP competition rifle.
I had a Scout for a short time, a .50, but sold it because I already had rifles I liked better. I had a tough time working up a hunting load for it, but finally settled on the shorter Maxi-Hunter slug and 80 gr. FFg, or an equal volume of P Pyrodex. I imagine a REAL slug would have worked but I never bothered testing them. Round ball loads would be okay up until about 45 gr. of powder, then explode into patterns. I never hunted with it because my TC Hawken will handle loads that will humanely kill anything I care to hunt. The Scout limited me to deer-size game at ranges under 75 yards. Fun fact- if you have a .54 TC Hawken but want it to be lighter, you can drop a Renegade barrel into it without any modification. Good luck finding a Renegade barrel, but just rest assured it can happen.
I know some of them had accuracy problems early on, causing them to change the twist rate they chose for the rifling. Mine shoots 235 grain sabots, or Power Belts very well with 100 grains of Hodgdon 777. Honestly, it hasn’t been “fussy” at all. I do tend to hunt more with my Omega though. It’s a little more accurate, and easier to use. My Scout is primarily a range toy.
That’s awesome. I never got into the Scout pistols, but they are very cool. My Scout is supposed to be a “Texas Scout” I believe. I wish there was more historical info about the Scouts, but they just weren’t made very long, and the industry just kind of passed them by.
I haven’t shot mine in forever and I’m trying to remember what bullets to get. Seems like the 50 cal slugs I used to get were greased packed and I cannot find them. I don’t believe what I’m seeing on the shelves at Walmart would work, idk they seem like inline only.
I’ve had good luck with “Power Belts” and the old Thompson Center sabots. I do remember seeing pre lubed mini balls before too. Can’t remember who made them.
It depends. I use mostly black powder substitute. So it’s not as corrosive as real black powder. That does help. If I take my black powder guns out to the range, i clean them soon afterward. During hunting season, I don’t really shoot unless I’m actually shooting at an animal, so I usually shoot less. Most of the time whichever of the muzzleloaders I’m using only gets cleaned at the end of the season. However, if you’re shooting a lot, it will start to load hard as it gets dirty. The crud cleans right up. The real damage is the rust that builds up if they’re left dirty for too long. The Scout is a little harder to clean than a more modern inline, but it’s not that bad if you don’t let it get bad to start with. Bore Butter works great, both inside, and out.
Well that depends. I don’t myself, but some folks do. You can tell when you put the next projectile in. If they start going in hard, either run a patch through it, or just clean it. Realistically, that’s the only trouble you’ll have, as long as you don’t let it sit dirty for a long time. That’s when the rust starts. An “old timer” once told me that you should treat a black powder gun like a cast iron pan. If you keep it properly “seasoned”, it will clean up easier, and shoot better. It also helps to use the black powder substitute, and a projectile like Power Belts. You can’t over clean it. So really, it’s personal preference. I put Bore Butter on everything that’s blued, inside, and out. Then wipe it off to remove the excess. If you do that, and use never seize on any threads, you will be fine.
I had a scout way back when they first came out ,,it would only shoot a rather sloppy 3 foot pattern,after doing everything I could think of I sent it back to tc,,in a week they contacted me and apologized for the rifle and told me to pick out any new rifle I wanted, I got the new tc omega stainless,,,it shoots great and I've had it over 30 years
I never understood how someone wanting to get into old school historical firearms would buy an inline, why. They're so simple and accurate out of the box, it's amazing. I'm not some range rat guy, my first shot ever with my Renegade: "bullseye nine O clock", the spotter at the range yells out in front of this small crowd that gathered to watch it.
I am a T/C Hawken owner and won many prizes with it at my muzzle loading club shoots. Inlines became popular when States legislated muzzle loading BP Deer Seasons, but not with traditional shooters like me. They became popular with smokeless shooters who wanted to hunt more deer during that primitive season. The appeal of a inline rifle in the configuration of a modern hunting rifle was too hard to resist, if it meant harvesting one more deer. I knew a guy that bought one, shot it and never cleaned it, since he did not bother to do his homework. He was greedy and lazy. He stuck it in a closet with a fouled bore and ruined the bore. T/C made very good black powder guns and modern smokeless single shot guns. It is a shame they had to go out of business. If they had made AR-15s, they would still be in business today.
@@robertrobert7924 I lucked out. GangerMt took my deposit on a cheaper gun and couldn't deliver on it. I ordered a $199 plains rifle. Ended up with a new Renegade, just beautiful walnut stock, worth twice the plains rifle. They just gave it to me instead, awesome shooter, accurate, great company.
I have one i just bought .I see people saying this gun blew back in there faces. And it miss fired alot . ? I haven't shot it yet is there any truth to this . I'm almost afraid to shoot it
Have it checked out by a gun smith . I'am assuming it has a removable nipple . The hole size will be critical , I suspect . If in doubt, favor published light loads . Nice looking firearm !
I’d say both yes, and no. A lot of miss fires could be from old caps (keep in mind, we’re talking the old #11 caps), and I’ve found that some folks neglect their black powder guns a lot. Also, even though it’s an inline, it actually be more dependable with regular loose powder, than with the pellets. So far mine has never failed to fire, and it’s never had any blowback issues either. I would take it all apart, give it a good cleaning, and inspection. When you do get ready to fire it, start with a lighter load, and work your way up. I would reiterate, take it apart, and clean it first. Looking for anything plugged, missing, or broken. You could take it to a gunsmith. Can’t go wrong by doing that. Especially if it’s corroded, and doesn’t want to come apart. With black powder guns, it’s all about how they’ve been taken care of.
Update ... I have shot it today for the first time it shot great I'm using loose powder pyrodex rs type mines a 54 cal . With 70 gr with a patch and round ball . It shot perfectly and hardly any recoil at all i was expecting it to kick hard my little 410. GA shoots way harder. I love this gun . I think the key is to keep it clean and I won't have any problems out of it
But there were original historical pieces that were in lines the Hopkins and Allen under hammers and so called mule eared sidelocks cases both examples of these.
@@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid in the early 70's they were cludged together in the US. By the time they moved to GA, they were just dikar junk they imported and claimed were as good as actual guns made by reputable manufacturers. They were the most poorly constructed, sketchiest garbage rods I've ever laid eyes on. The black iron pipe stuff from India has more care put into it. Then they tried selling the garbage spanish guns against Thompson Center in the new inline cheater muzzleloader market of the mid to late 90's. They quite predictably pipe bombed and CVA was sued out of existence. They reopened as BPI, still the same people, made by the same unskilled hacks, under a new name (same company), but with slightly better process, and eventually phased out all the "extruded" barrels with falsified proof marks. They are just an Icky company, ran by guys that don't know manufacturing, gun design, or basic engineering. This is my opinion, and some people are in to harbor freight level quality.
You answered all my questions. Now I have to look the rest of my life to find one😄
I have one. Wanna buy?
Thompson Center just re-opened soon they will be making more product's.
Brought mine brand new still have it still use it every deer season
Good news! A new investor has bought the company and is moving production back to New Hampshire! There are a few videos now on YT.
Thanks for the info! That is good news for sure!
Glen owned one of these that he bought brand new in the early 90’s and sold since. Black powder are a fun hobby rifle.
Cool info Scott.
Thank you!
I was lucky enough to have both a pistol and rifle 54 cal Scouts. 🇺🇲
Nice info! I worked in Rochester several years ago, and used to drive by the old Thompson site.
Very cool! Sad it's gone now.
I have both TC Scout handgun and scout carbine/rifle in 50 cal. Very nice target blasting at the range. Cast my own 370gr. Lee Maxi-Ball, they come out very good. I do like to load the round ball though. I bought them when they first came out up in Rochester N.H, not far from my home in Plaistow, N.H. I always had a special love for these firearms. Im 75 and do like my guns.
You have good taste!
I have one in 54 caliber. Love the look.
Hope you both are dong well with the storm coming at you. Stay safe. Interesting background on this, Scott. Well said! It was neat to see the parts explained too. Cheers.
Thanks! We made it through the storm fine. It was quite a bit of wind, but no rain.
Thankfully its a beautiful day today.
Very interesting and informative Scott. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
The Scouts came with their own specific wrench. I didn’t see the spring steel that slides into the hammer to prevent dropping primers into the action. It is sad that Thompson Center is no more😢 I really wish somebody would bring back the Renegade Rifle.
It really is too bad they aren't in business anymore. They made some good rifles.
Great video buddy. Always wanted a scout. Very informative.
If you can find one in serviceable condition, GRAB IT! It’s kind of a guilty pleasure really. It’s not like a CVA, or a Traditions won’t do the same thing. But the Scout is pure fun.
Great video Scott, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Hope you and Shelly have a blessed weekend.
Thanks, you too! Take care
My favorite rifle of all time is the winchester lever action of which I have 2 in 3030 and 32 special. So, yeah, I'd like to find one of those scouts. Think I'd like it.
Have you tried blackhorn powder in your scout? I like my scout too. Good video.
I have not. Not yet anyway. I have a jug of it that I haven’t opened yet.
Some SOB broke in my truck in Denver twenty some years ago ! I still miss that gun !
Bummer…. People suck. Dogs are much better.
Never knew this model existed until I went to a recent gun show and there were two on the table. One appeared to be never shot. Key chain with American flag and TC logo hanging from the trigger guard.
So, you bought one, right??? Lol
I always loved the concept of the scout and scout pistol but you're right they showed up on the market they disappeared and I've never actually seen a live one in my life, even trying to find one on the internet you'd think it never existed. I'd still like to find one or see them reintroduce it
Anything is possible now I guess. They did show a Scout pistol in one of their recent videos. The old ones are fairly scarce. I’d been waiting for one to pop up for years. Then, one day I spotted one in the corner of a small gun store. Owner said he’d taken it in trade years ago, and I was probably the first one ever show any interest. They are around, but some folks don’t know what they are.
Looking for one of those. Unfortunately only one I've found had the original stocks replaced with polymer
Some actually came with composite stocks. You have to remember, they just look historic. They were first released in 1992. I just got lucky in finding a fancy one. As far as I know, none of them hold much value yet. I just always wanted one. Used black powder guns don’t hold much value anyway. I think I bought mine like 2 years ago, and I think I paid $150 for it. The biggest reason they’re hard to find, is that they only made them for a few years, and they were competing with other, more modern inlines. I would’ve bought one with the synthetic furniture, if that’s what I found. There aren’t a lot of records as to how many of each type were produced. But I’ve seen several variants. I believe mine is actually a “Texas Scout” and was produced for Gander Mountain.
I bought 3 BP rifles for $180 at a yard sale, one kit assembled kentucky long .45 cal rifle, a rossi break in-line .50 cal muzzle loader, and a thompson center hawken with set triggers .50 cal. That thompson center hawken is my go-to BP competition rifle.
It's a great rifle. Sounds like you scored at that yard sale!
I had a Scout for a short time, a .50, but sold it because I already had rifles I liked better. I had a tough time working up a hunting load for it, but finally settled on the shorter Maxi-Hunter slug and 80 gr. FFg, or an equal volume of P Pyrodex. I imagine a REAL slug would have worked but I never bothered testing them. Round ball loads would be okay up until about 45 gr. of powder, then explode into patterns. I never hunted with it because my TC Hawken will handle loads that will humanely kill anything I care to hunt. The Scout limited me to deer-size game at ranges under 75 yards.
Fun fact- if you have a .54 TC Hawken but want it to be lighter, you can drop a Renegade barrel into it without any modification. Good luck finding a Renegade barrel, but just rest assured it can happen.
I know some of them had accuracy problems early on, causing them to change the twist rate they chose for the rifling.
Mine shoots 235 grain sabots, or Power Belts very well with 100 grains of Hodgdon 777.
Honestly, it hasn’t been “fussy” at all. I do tend to hunt more with my Omega though. It’s a little more accurate, and easier to use.
My Scout is primarily a range toy.
Fixing to pick one of them up in a day or two 🇺🇸💪💣👍
Nice!
I just got one gifted to me. Thanks for the vid! I was not sure about this gun til you explained everything very well!
So glad it helped.
Excellent video. I did not know about the Scout. The missing link between traditional and inline.
It is kind of stuck right at the transition.
Very interesting
H&R huntsman was first true in-line
Great video. Thank you, Cheers.
I have the scout pistol/carbine set 50 cal pistol 54 cal carbine love them.
That’s awesome. I never got into the Scout pistols, but they are very cool.
My Scout is supposed to be a “Texas Scout” I believe. I wish there was more historical info about the Scouts, but they just weren’t made very long, and the industry just kind of passed them by.
That is one cool little gun. If the new company starts making them again, I'll be first in line. Great vid, worth every minute, tganks.
You are very welcome!
I haven’t shot mine in forever and I’m trying to remember what bullets to get. Seems like the 50 cal slugs I used to get were greased packed and I cannot find them. I don’t believe what I’m seeing on the shelves at Walmart would work, idk they seem like inline only.
I’ve had good luck with “Power Belts” and the old Thompson Center sabots. I do remember seeing pre lubed mini balls before too. Can’t remember who made them.
How many shots do you typically do on your scout before you clean it? I have one I inherited from my dad just got it shooting yesterday.
It depends. I use mostly black powder substitute. So it’s not as corrosive as real black powder. That does help. If I take my black powder guns out to the range, i clean them soon afterward. During hunting season, I don’t really shoot unless I’m actually shooting at an animal, so I usually shoot less. Most of the time whichever of the muzzleloaders I’m using only gets cleaned at the end of the season. However, if you’re shooting a lot, it will start to load hard as it gets dirty.
The crud cleans right up. The real damage is the rust that builds up if they’re left dirty for too long. The Scout is a little harder to clean than a more modern inline, but it’s not that bad if you don’t let it get bad to start with. Bore Butter works great, both inside, and out.
@@scottfromwhiskeynsunshine305 do you suggest I at least run a dry patch down it after every shot
Well that depends. I don’t myself, but some folks do. You can tell when you put the next projectile in. If they start going in hard, either run a patch through it, or just clean it. Realistically, that’s the only trouble you’ll have, as long as you don’t let it sit dirty for a long time.
That’s when the rust starts.
An “old timer” once told me that you should treat a black powder gun like a cast iron pan. If you keep it properly “seasoned”, it will clean up easier, and shoot better.
It also helps to use the black powder substitute, and a projectile like Power Belts.
You can’t over clean it. So really, it’s personal preference. I put Bore Butter on everything that’s blued, inside, and out.
Then wipe it off to remove the excess. If you do that, and use never seize on any threads, you will be fine.
I had a scout way back when they first came out ,,it would only shoot a rather sloppy 3 foot pattern,after doing everything I could think of I sent it back to tc,,in a week they contacted me and apologized for the rifle and told me to pick out any new rifle I wanted, I got the new tc omega stainless,,,it shoots great and I've had it over 30 years
I heard that they had issues early on, which led to a change in rifling. I haven’t seen it myself, but I have heard of that.
I never understood how someone wanting to get into old school historical firearms would buy an inline, why. They're so simple and accurate out of the box, it's amazing. I'm not some range rat guy, my first shot ever with my Renegade: "bullseye nine O clock", the spotter at the range yells out in front of this small crowd that gathered to watch it.
Took me years before I discovered how fun black powder guns were.
@@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid I want to try flintlocks, about to turn 70yrs. Finding a decent woods is getting hard to do these days.
I am a T/C Hawken owner and won many prizes with it at my muzzle loading club shoots. Inlines became popular when States legislated muzzle loading BP Deer Seasons, but not with traditional shooters like me. They became popular with smokeless shooters who wanted to hunt more deer during that primitive season. The appeal of a inline rifle in the configuration of a modern hunting rifle was too hard to resist, if it meant harvesting one more deer. I knew a guy that bought one, shot it and never cleaned it, since he did not bother to do his homework. He was greedy and lazy.
He stuck it in a closet with a fouled bore and ruined the bore. T/C made very good black powder guns and modern smokeless single shot guns. It is a shame they had to go out of business. If they had made AR-15s, they would still be in business today.
@@robertrobert7924 I lucked out. GangerMt took my deposit on a cheaper gun and couldn't deliver on it. I ordered a $199 plains rifle. Ended up with a new Renegade, just beautiful walnut stock, worth twice the plains rifle. They just gave it to me instead, awesome shooter, accurate, great company.
@@WhiskeynSunshineOffGridTC is back in business as of 04/30/24!🤗
Hey Scott nice video
Hey there
Cool
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I had a Teaxs Scout full otcdegone only 500 of them were made l had SN. 470 got stolen. I miss TC.
I have one i just bought .I see people saying this gun blew back in there faces. And it miss fired alot . ? I haven't shot it yet is there any truth to this . I'm almost afraid to shoot it
Have it checked out by a gun smith .
I'am assuming it has a removable nipple . The hole size will be critical , I suspect .
If in doubt, favor published light loads .
Nice looking firearm !
I’d say both yes, and no. A lot of miss fires could be from old caps (keep in mind, we’re talking the old #11 caps), and I’ve found that some folks neglect their black powder guns a lot.
Also, even though it’s an inline, it actually be more dependable with regular loose powder, than with the pellets.
So far mine has never failed to fire, and it’s never had any blowback issues either.
I would take it all apart, give it a good cleaning, and inspection.
When you do get ready to fire it, start with a lighter load, and work your way up.
I would reiterate, take it apart, and clean it first. Looking for anything plugged, missing, or broken.
You could take it to a gunsmith. Can’t go wrong by doing that. Especially if it’s corroded, and doesn’t want to come apart.
With black powder guns, it’s all about how they’ve been taken care of.
Update ... I have shot it today for the first time it shot great I'm using loose powder pyrodex rs type mines a 54 cal . With 70 gr with a patch and round ball . It shot perfectly and hardly any recoil at all i was expecting
it to kick hard my little 410. GA shoots way harder. I love this gun . I think the key is to keep it clean and I won't have any problems out of it
Good for you!!
I was actually wondering the same thing about mine
But there were original historical pieces that were in lines the Hopkins and Allen under hammers and so called mule eared sidelocks cases both examples of these.
Very true. There’s constant speculation about who made the first “inline” was. Most folks never realize that it was t a new concept.
News is that the Contender is coming back under new ownership.
Fingers crossed
Look up the tingle mfg muzzle loader. Looks just like the scout series.
I’ve seen some of their Hawken, and Kentucky Rifle stuff. Looks very nice.
Okay gave you the like now do a specific video on the vented housing and antechamber
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Thompson Center and CVA repopulated the blackpowder firearm. Jeremiah johnson is what popularized them.
I agree!!
Thompson is going back in business and moving back to New Hampshire.
I heard that recently. Even saw a video. I REALLY hope they make a go of it. Thompson had some really nice stuff
Huuuuyyyyyyyyyyyy huuuufffffffffffff que hermosura de Rifles
They really are.
Wish I had never sold my T/C Pennsylvania Hunter …😢
CVA was always chewing gum spanish danger sticks.
I was thinking their earlier stuff was made right in Connecticut. I know they are either Spanish, or Italian now.
@@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid in the early 70's they were cludged together in the US. By the time they moved to GA, they were just dikar junk they imported and claimed were as good as actual guns made by reputable manufacturers. They were the most poorly constructed, sketchiest garbage rods I've ever laid eyes on. The black iron pipe stuff from India has more care put into it.
Then they tried selling the garbage spanish guns against Thompson Center in the new inline cheater muzzleloader market of the mid to late 90's. They quite predictably pipe bombed and CVA was sued out of existence. They reopened as BPI, still the same people, made by the same unskilled hacks, under a new name (same company), but with slightly better process, and eventually phased out all the "extruded" barrels with falsified proof marks.
They are just an Icky company, ran by guys that don't know manufacturing, gun design, or basic engineering. This is my opinion, and some people are in to harbor freight level quality.