The Alarming Cheating And Rule Violations Outbreak In Pro Bass Tournaments In 2024…

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Randy discusses rule violations and cheating in the 2024 season…#bassmasters #bassfishing #fishing #fishinglife #basslake #bassmasteropens #angler #angling #bass
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  • @DougLane-dj3oh
    @DougLane-dj3oh Месяц назад +17

    Money breeds the worst behaviors.

    • @touger9759
      @touger9759 Месяц назад +1

      Yup. The sad part is our culture doesn't care about cheating. We celebrate cheaters in everything.

  • @edwardgrobe2848
    @edwardgrobe2848 Месяц назад +10

    Idiots go in debt $250,000 for rig and gear to compete. That puts them in a must win situation to pay the devil. Money ruins everything that was once honest and fun . There's so many tournaments in the country today that our lakes are stressed, overcrowded with idiots in 300 hp boats. This is why I spent good money building a 15 acre lake on my farm. Our lakes have been overtaken by rude idiots, drunken fools . Our lakes need HP limits and more speed sensitive zones. Nobody needs a motor bigger than 150 HP. Heck, the bass can only swim so fast. I catch daily limits from a small aluminum boat with a 40 HP Mercury. Stealth, patience and experience in conjunction with skill catches fish.

  • @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm
    @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm Месяц назад +3

    A 15 dollar lure ain't that part of big money in fishing wow

  • @astrophysicistguy
    @astrophysicistguy Месяц назад +6

    When you have to start a conversation about cheating in pro fishing tournaments with the statement " cheating has been around pro fishing for as long as there have been tournamnets", you know you have a problem ..

    • @davenyc7033
      @davenyc7033 Месяц назад

      Yes, human nature is a problem.

  • @MichaelJones-rn2pq
    @MichaelJones-rn2pq Месяц назад +59

    Get rid of all competitive fishing and just fish for fun. Problem solved!👍

    • @jimb1283
      @jimb1283 Месяц назад +3

      Amen brother.

    • @randywilmoth8137
      @randywilmoth8137 Месяц назад +2

      Double AMEN brother!!

    • @jddarby007
      @jddarby007 Месяц назад +4

      It does look like tournament fishing is taking the fun out of fishing.

    • @astrophysicistguy
      @astrophysicistguy Месяц назад +3

      Amen. So called "pro" fishing has been one big s$@t show for as long as anyone can remember.

    • @easton00033
      @easton00033 Месяц назад +2

      @@jddarby007how does it take the fun out for you ? If you don’t competitively fish, in what way does it affect you in the least ?
      I’m not asking this to be rude, I’m genuinely interested to know why it would dampen your ability to fun fish when ever you please.
      I ask the same question about the electronics, 99.9% of the vocal opposition openly admit to not tournament fishing or even watching tournament fishing. Absolutely nothing inside the tournament would influences what a person does outside of that arena. If you are disturbed by the actions of someone or something that has no bearing on your ability to pursue an activity you choose to do a certain way, well that’s a you problem imho.

  • @saltrock9642
    @saltrock9642 Месяц назад +5

    I dealt with cheating in my local lake night tournaments. “Basket” fishing to win a hundred bucks is laughable.

  • @user-jr1bm5mb1v
    @user-jr1bm5mb1v Месяц назад +6

    Cheating has been going for years. Breaking rules has been going on for years. Tried tournament fishing back in the 90s. It was out of control then. Honest man don't have a chance against that.

  • @cuivre2004
    @cuivre2004 Месяц назад +3

    I think releasing fish with fin clips to weight fish still attached is what happened lately by Milliken. Cull tags typically float, but releasing fish with either of these devices shows a lack of attention and care. That should be grounds for a DQ. Carelessness kills bass and cannot be considered an "accident".

  • @mistertwister1816
    @mistertwister1816 Месяц назад +3

    Safety rule violations aren't innocent. Blowing through a no-wake is not innocent, as you suggested herein. Forgetting to put on your life jacket, failing to zip it up, or not using a kill switch are not innocent, as you suggested herein. These are against the law in some instances, and certainly against tournament rules. What's so hard about following all the laws/rules to the letter without sliding on the slippery slope you present us with herein? You just get cronyism and favoritism with your recipe. My thoughts. Follow the rules.

  • @1980chardison
    @1980chardison Месяц назад +2

    You know how to solve that problem one don’t ever have any fishing tournaments. Get rid of them too anything goes who gives a shit as long as it doesn’t break a rules, violation fishing game and DNR you’re good to go. Don’t break laws. Are you good to go?

  • @chadaaron9661
    @chadaaron9661 Месяц назад

    The number one rule violation of upper level tournaments, by a huge margin, is receiving information specific to the tournament waters. This violation has more impact on the tournament results than any other violation, by a huge margin. This rule is violated by a huge majority of participants.

  • @Tmann4437
    @Tmann4437 Месяц назад +5

    Yep that's what happens when money 💰 is involved. Even local tournaments it happens.

  • @touger9759
    @touger9759 Месяц назад +2

    "Simple oversight"😂 How many of these ppl play dumb and claim "simple over sight" or "sorry i didnt know" when they new full well what they were doing? They arent dumb, theyre malicious.

  • @silasclayton7777
    @silasclayton7777 Месяц назад +13

    Love the content Randy, but I can't afford $20 crank baits right now unfortunately.
    And good work, it only took you tell 5 minutes in to start in on FFS.

    • @christopherwood2290
      @christopherwood2290 Месяц назад +4

      Most of my fishing is with soft plastics or jig fishing. Cheap and effective.

    • @silasclayton7777
      @silasclayton7777 Месяц назад +1

      @@christopherwood2290 I catch the majority of the bass I catch on cheap tubes.
      I would love some of that Megabass stuff, but I'd absolutely run 60lb brain and just color it out with perm marker in case the fish are like shy.
      I'm getting that lure back... 😂

  • @rickseifert1677
    @rickseifert1677 16 дней назад

    Very interesting!

  • @sliderman6899
    @sliderman6899 26 дней назад

    Hope you were watching the last day of Lake Champlain when Patrick Walters boat flipped two smallmouth in a row into the boat and left them flopping on the deck and cast out for the third. I have never seen a more blatant violation of the good sportsman's rule. Boat flipping should not be allowed at all. Let alone leaving the fish flopping around the boat for minutes at a time.

    • @RustyWells2
      @RustyWells2 25 дней назад

      And I bet you are all for abortion?

  • @user-rl1oo3it3k
    @user-rl1oo3it3k Месяц назад

    You all are so right about the dollar.

  • @DshaunBirch
    @DshaunBirch Месяц назад +1

    that snagging bass on a line between the logs is diabolically pathetic shame on that guy

  • @keneast8307
    @keneast8307 Месяц назад

    Throwing lures this evening was asome

  • @AaronS-ml1bh
    @AaronS-ml1bh Месяц назад +3

    I don't agree with the money penalty, super rich ppl will just blow the no wake on purpose every day they can afford to and won't care

  • @AaronS-ml1bh
    @AaronS-ml1bh Месяц назад +3

    Desperation to look cool on social media, most pros are just rich dudes with average skill. One pro fished a wed nighter with no info or practice on a 3 mile long lake that is loaded by me, dude caught 0 fish in 4 what a complete disgrace to the sport all them dudes are hacks

    • @donnieshelton591
      @donnieshelton591 Месяц назад

      You’re judging one outing by one pro and applying one guys one poor outing as a representation to all pro’s? Seems to me if you’re all that compared to what you refer to as “ average” pro fisherman. why aren’t you out there with the big boys earning the big bucks?

    • @AaronS-ml1bh
      @AaronS-ml1bh Месяц назад

      @@donnieshelton591 send me some big bucks I'll go get their big bucks for ya

  • @guyfilliaux2377
    @guyfilliaux2377 Месяц назад +1

    I'm tired of small local tournaments, I know guys are dumping fish in coves and have baskets hidden.

  • @aeroforce100
    @aeroforce100 Месяц назад +2

    I think there has always been cheating and rules violations, but there are more cameras out there, so they are being caught.

  • @robertfelty7290
    @robertfelty7290 Месяц назад +8

    You shouldn't use the word cheating by using forward facing sonar until there are rules in place that they can't be used. That's like saying your guilty before proof. Until then there not cheating.

  • @toddaldrich1936
    @toddaldrich1936 Месяц назад +1

    No innocent cheating . ,DQ them ,to keep the sport honest, Every an gler reaching the highest levels of fishing ( Elites , Mlf) should be required to take a lie detector test before being aloud to fish. East 1 question .Have you ever cheated or atempted to cheat ? Weed out right away.

  • @johnstrand2247
    @johnstrand2247 Месяц назад +3

    Golf, tennis, cards and everything else will include cheaters. Throw some money into a pot and it will automatically attract the real frauds.

    • @astrophysicistguy
      @astrophysicistguy Месяц назад +1

      Really? You think there is cheating going on in pro golf and pro tennis like there is in " pro" fishing? Please cite some actual examples

    • @astrophysicistguy
      @astrophysicistguy Месяц назад

      Please stop. Legal cheating is an oxy moron ...

    • @johnstrand2247
      @johnstrand2247 Месяц назад

      @@astrophysicistguy Did I say pro? No,that came from you.

    • @astrophysicistguy
      @astrophysicistguy Месяц назад

      @@johnstrand2247 that's correct because there is as much cheating in so called 'pro' fishing as non pro tournaments. I know because it happened to me. A well known pro "invited" me to go fishing with him on my home waters where I'm known by the local tackle shop as someone who is on the lake every week. I don't give 3 s#@ts about tournament fishing so I turned him down. Someone told me it was inside the off limits period ... like I said, one big s#@t show ...

  • @captainron3494
    @captainron3494 Месяц назад +1

    these things been going on since 1970s
    it's just now because of social media it gets out to the public asap

  • @mikewallis8999
    @mikewallis8999 Месяц назад

    If a fish is hooked outside the mouth behind the gills it should be released unless it has a hook close to the mouth

  • @claytonbunt9760
    @claytonbunt9760 29 дней назад

    Innocent mistake/oversight if you do it
    FLagrant cheating if someone else does it !!!

  • @brianpierson7708
    @brianpierson7708 Месяц назад +2

    When it comes to hunting and the B&C scoring system I Personally Believe theres no one allowed in with dog hunting deer. Same with P&Y

    • @kevinreimers1271
      @kevinreimers1271 Месяц назад

      Also goes for dogs hunting quail,
      pheasant, raccoons, etc. Dogs are the so called cheater box and pinpoint whichever you're hunting. No one ever tried to outlaw it.

    • @manofthehour1983
      @manofthehour1983 Месяц назад +1

      @@kevinreimers1271hunting dogs are a naturally occuring thing , that is what they do , they work hand in hand with man for hundreds of years . Ive had bird dogs my whole life and ive fished for bass my whole life , you cannot make a comparison of bird dog to FFS .

  • @mikeharris130
    @mikeharris130 Месяц назад +3

    On the BASS side, many the Elite rookies live in the gray.

  • @user-xq7ri1rk7m
    @user-xq7ri1rk7m Месяц назад

    Great video thanks 😊

  • @robertfelty7290
    @robertfelty7290 Месяц назад +1

    Looks like a copy of a Shadrap

  • @bobh6583
    @bobh6583 Месяц назад +1

    Don't want the sport to get a black eye?
    The "so called" sport has 2 of them already. Plain and simple...... It's not fishing anymore and $$$$ has ruined it.

  • @Kallivakgames
    @Kallivakgames Месяц назад

    while i do not agree with you on certain things. rule violations should always be addressed in a fair and unbiased manner. also.... jet drives in bass fishing should have been the norm 20 years ago. a jet drive is absolutely superior to an outboard in terms of a boats draft.

  • @tsr_outdoors
    @tsr_outdoors Месяц назад

    The best

  • @garysanderford1572
    @garysanderford1572 Месяц назад +4

    Do you down grade pro fishing every other day or im i watching the same video

    • @DennisMorgan-ls8sc
      @DennisMorgan-ls8sc Месяц назад +3

      Gets more clicks on negative videos.

    • @whatsapoop
      @whatsapoop Месяц назад

      Randy is not downgrading anything at all, he's simply pointing out the truth. Biggest thing about TRUTH is it's a hard pill to swallow and equally a difficult thing to point out, especially among friends/coworkers and most especially sponsors. Cool thing about RUclips is that if a channel puts out content that hurts your feelings, is not to your liking, doesn't align with your views and/or opinions, you can operate is just like you do your TV ..... CHANGE THE CHANNEL. That alone would keep people from posting dumbass comments. Just move on, no harm no foul. However, studies of social media addiction have shown that once someone posts a comment, they then become fixated on the platform topic because they are now looking for vindication of their comment and/or point of view. Whether the channel's choice of topic is positive or negative, or whether they agree or disagree, people cannot control themselves and hang around just to be part of the program because they are afraid of missing something. So here you go ...... just like the old saying "HERE'S YOUR SIGN," well ...... here's your reply comment. So, change your channel and move on, no sense in thinking you are watching the same video over and over. But I guarantee you won't be leaving this channel anytime soon, there's too much TRUTH that you don't want to miss.

  • @jamesvircik2865
    @jamesvircik2865 Месяц назад

    Randy, the ways to cheat in a bass tournament are endless, if you have a lot of money, you can pay your friends and family to fish the lake and report back to you how you gonna defend that the more locals you know the better I love how these guys show up and know exactly where the fish are 40 miles away lol we can go over everybody’s wins for years, ,next year you were nowhere near that spot hmmmm they all got their scouts. it’s never ending. Let alone the people who keep them in boxes lol

  • @13thworker45
    @13thworker45 Месяц назад +1

    Randy you need to start a new tournament for real anglers. You will pick up the sponsorship you need. I was going to fish a local tournament last year until I seen a boat launch with forward facing sonar. I decided not to fish. Keep a level platform.

    • @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm
      @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm Месяц назад +1

      And we all have 20.00 mega bass lures 😂😂. He picks and chooses what he opposes big money in bass fishing with 100 k boats and 4 livescope

  • @stephanieslaton1781
    @stephanieslaton1781 Месяц назад

    Good video Randy. I think if you are given the information, you can listen to it on your way to the lake and then say……I was listening to it on the way to the tournament and didn’t really listen that good and you could listen to it over and over. Maybe you need to listen and pay attention. Then get told the same things in a meeting. Yes, I’m talking about running a no wake zone. In my opinion, if you are an elite, now wearing big boy pants, listen and know the rules for every tournament. Otherwise blowing through a no wake zone is cheating as far as I’m concerned. Yes, I agree there can be honest mistakes, fine no problem. But when a tournament director gives 1 angler a penalty, if you really call it that, but another angler did the same thing and he said he didn’t know it was a no wake zone, but both got different amount of time penalties. Rules are rules, break one, same penalty for exact same scenario. Agree worse offenses deserve greater penalties for some. But in my opinion, this tournament director just wants to do what she wants for who she wants and caters to the electronic companies. JMO.

  • @nicholasfrederick1861
    @nicholasfrederick1861 Месяц назад +1

    This guy talks about the price of bass fishing then shows off his mega bass stuff the normal everyday angler can't spend 15 bucks on a crankbait.

  • @lancepoore3045
    @lancepoore3045 Месяц назад

    Comparing Boone & Crockett to bass tournaments is apples and oranges. B&C does not hold tournaments. They are a conservation program??? I'm sure a lot of your fans will agree with you though. 😅

  • @zeppelin1n4
    @zeppelin1n4 Месяц назад

    What is the reason why jet drive boats are banned?

  • @jy88-
    @jy88- Месяц назад +1

    I hope they keep pumping the forward facing. Going to help me when they drop prices on traditional finders. I would like a larger screen. Just waiting on them to drop some more. Lol

  • @txhuntsman
    @txhuntsman Месяц назад

    Guys are going to push the limits and operate in the gray. What is disappointing to me is BASS in particular will never be honest about cheating and they will never fine or punish the "popular" guys they think will bring fans and clicks such as Miliken who would go on a social media rampage and give BASS a black eye if he was ever called out by the power in charge.

  • @robertsprague8448
    @robertsprague8448 Месяц назад +1

    No motors, have to row. NO Electronics. Fish on!

  • @wayneautwell4255
    @wayneautwell4255 Месяц назад +4

    If someone violates a rule to gain an advantage it's cheating.

    • @Tmann4437
      @Tmann4437 Месяц назад +3

      Agree, like FFS

    • @brianpierson7708
      @brianpierson7708 Месяц назад

      Yes it is just like FFS is for the bad or weekend warrior who can’t find or catch fish so they use it. It’s sucking for a pro to use

    • @scottbennard
      @scottbennard Месяц назад +1

      @@Tmann4437 Ummm… I guess I missed what rule they’re breaking…

    • @txhuntsman
      @txhuntsman Месяц назад +1

      @@scottbennard Well go back to the 4:08 mark and Randy gives a you list of things that have happened this year that were cheating/breaking the rules.

  • @tsr_outdoors
    @tsr_outdoors Месяц назад

    So you are again saying electronics are cheating ( which you always used the bed you could get installed on your boat during your whole career ) and hiding gas cans isn’t ???
    Come on Randy !!!!

  • @captainron3494
    @captainron3494 Месяц назад

    I never fish a tourament far as bass again
    I stick to ocean touraments
    better pay outs
    fact
    u spend days weeks months putting out legal brush piles for summer touraments and start doing very well and watch what happens
    the other folks will start hating on u asap
    they forget all the 70 plus brush u put out
    it's stright to hey they cheatimg
    yea yall can keep them bass tournaments
    buddies but start to be in top 3 or 5 see how good of buddies they are

    • @captainron3494
      @captainron3494 Месяц назад

      ooooo one last thing
      do people really think
      People will cheat on a Tuesday nighters for money
      them touraments if u even win want pay for the gas in the boat
      they do it for fun
      maybe I'm wrong

  • @slayerstacker2074
    @slayerstacker2074 Месяц назад +3

    You know Randy, it's funny how you were talking about there wasn't a rule that says you couldn't use gas cans along the bank to help you get back to where the fish were, and back to the boat dock to weigh in at end of the day. There isn't any rule that says FFS isn't allowed in tournaments either. I guess we can ALL agree that using FFS isn't cheating, RIGHT ??? 😉 I mean, you might not like the fact that Bass and MLF allow FFS, but you can at least admit that it's not cheating ?

    • @stephanieslaton1781
      @stephanieslaton1781 Месяц назад +2

      That’s why the words “legalized cheating” is used. If you have to see a fish to make a cast and catch it, you need fishing for dummies. Just my opinion.

    • @slayerstacker2074
      @slayerstacker2074 Месяц назад +4

      @stephanieslaton1781, so was Randy's situation legalized cheating ? My point is, and you know what I'm talking about. If you don't like FFS, that doesn't make it cheating. I just think it's disrespectful to every angler who uses FFS to call them cheaters. When in all reality, there not cheaters at all.

  • @dwaynepuckett16
    @dwaynepuckett16 Месяц назад +1

    Using public properties for private venues is illegal hands down.

  • @jamesbilof4201
    @jamesbilof4201 Месяц назад

    The human condition.

  • @josephphillips590
    @josephphillips590 Месяц назад +3

    I haven't seen any of this because I don't watch tournament fishing. If I want to see a bunch of crack heads I'll go to downtown Atlanta.😂😂😂😂

  • @toddhoppes1123
    @toddhoppes1123 Месяц назад +1

    How extremely petty of your co-angler to tell on you for something so stupid.

  • @rcp8287
    @rcp8287 Месяц назад

    Bunch of drama queens! If you break a rule you should be punished. If you don't like competitive fishing then don't do it or watch it! The idiots are the ones saying so competitive fishing. So ya'll are okay with taking away someone's livelihood? There are allot of things people do competitively now days and that's how they make a living. Should those things be stopped? Just because you only do it for fun and don't compete doesn't mean other people that are good enough shouldn't be able to make a living doing it... allot of people on here sound like socialist! Or they love drama! Sounds like a allot of jealously also!