This is why I prefer just using my own midi controllers. I like getting hands on, but i also want the flexibility of assigning the knob or button to whatever combination of commands I prefer to use.
Can you recommend some good midi controllers for this application? I got a run of the mill midi keyboard with some hands on buttons but im looking towards more of a all buttons and sliders stuff. Thanks
The only reason I keep waiting for the perfect fine-tuned controller to come out is because they handle multiple instances. If I could find a generic midi controller that worked well across multiple channels I would definitely prefer that. The closest I ever got was the Novation Nocturn, but even that was a bit of a slog with the wrapper plugins and what not.
There is an entire generation of engineers out there who don't even know what it's like to work with faders and knobs. You guys don't know what you're missing. Even if it get's your hand off the mouse for a few minutes, that alone is worth it! #Handcramps Really nice and thorough demo Wyste! Thank you for including my music!
@@GaragebandandBeyond the experience of making it actually doesn't count in regard to the music unless it changes it. For someone who never used physical faders they never had to make an adjustment like those who used them in the past. If you're a good engineer having physical faders should make no difference on your end product. It may not be how you ideally would like to work but your ears are the ones doing the job.
@@matmurk8536 If you produce as much music as I do, the experience of making it most definitely can affect the end results. When creating recordings is uncomfortable after hours and hours of work, engineers end up taking liberties which a lot of us would call lazy instead of proper. The toll it can take on your body after decades is not to be taken lightly. If you've never had the privilege of turning knobs or moving faders, I'd say "don't knock it until you've tried it".
@@GaragebandandBeyond I've used outboard gear, I'm 37 years old and have been producing and mixing for some time now. I've used all kinds of gear and have spent tens of thousands of dollars on it. You got used to using faders and knobs to mix and produce your music so you believe it to be a downgrade or disservice to work without them, but for those whom never have or dare I say it prefer to work without them it is not a downgrade. Especially when you consider they have Slate Ravens and touchscreen setups nowadays. To each their own of course. But I'm sure they're music comes out the way they intended it to without them using knobs and faders.
Remember that due to the nature of compression and limiting without level matching/makeup gain the original will be louder. Due to the way our ears work 90% of the time we will like what ever is louder, interesting when looking at marketing for almost every plugin/hardware unit. Tricks us into thinking it is better than it is.
@@KarlClarkeMusic but layering effects over a mastered track isn't much help. And that's the key word, "mastered". The song was done, adding things to it will definitely make it worse. I don't like the release settings in the first song, that doesn't have to be gain matched to tell. I know that this was just supposed to be a demonstration of the thing and not to be judged by the songs we hear but by it's usefulness and for us to hear how it stretch it's legs. So good stuff.
I've been looking at generic midi controllers on Amazon. It's kinda amazing how cheap some controllers are (surely not the best quality, just like these). $20usd for a 64 pad controller with rgb lights in each pad. Similar price for generic controllers with faders, knobs, and keys. If we wanted to make our homemade controller super fancy, tiny 1080p color screens can be had for $30 or $40usd. Coming up with a way to mount the screen in a way that resembles an actual product would be the hardest part. And using something like autohotkey as a way to configure the "software", one could easily make remappable and hotswappable midi templates for it. If only I had some free time to do this. It'd be a fraction of the cost and a lot of fun to make.
TC also now makes these type of controllers for Midas EQ and Dynamics. As a primarily live engineer who loves the Pro Series (which at least the dynamics module is based on) I would love to see a video about them if possible. I was only able to find one other and they didn't have the controller in the review.
These knob and fader interfaces for DAWs are excellent but they're soooooo expensive for what they are. Some of these other brands are just a plastic box with plastiv knobs and faders but they cost like $600 and up!
De midas controllers and plug ins zijn wel geweldig. Ik heb alle controllers/plug ins van tc in deze lijn behalve de multiband compressor en de limiter omdat ze niet goed klinken en de controllers niet handig zijn gemaakt. jammer want de rest van deze serie is echt geweldig! Check ze maar eens!
Helemaal mee eens. Ik heb de 2290, 8210, 1210 en PEQ3000 en de interfaces maken mijn workflow zo veel makkelijker. (Misschien mijn gitaristen achtergrond; knopjes hebben om aan te draaien en in te drukken ipv klooien met een muis) En de sounds bevallen me ook heel goed. Vooral de spatial expander is top, wat mij betreft.
@@shoey6123 Hahah, Not Valhalla level. You have no clue. The sound of TC reverbs have nothing in common with Vintage Verbs and do not aim in this direction. There is no better
They seem really useful. You were smashing the shit out of the master when A B . You should match the levels at least so it doesn’t sound like the original is better. Ease up on the settings. Thanks for the review. Like your work. Going to buy some
Great, no i now that maybe only the brickwall would be usefull for me;). But first my eye is on the PEQ3000 Midas eq. I own the tc1210dt, tc8210dt, tc2290dt and the dvr250dt controllers and they all are really outstanding if you'asked me.... And when i mixed live back in the days i loved the times on the Midas H3000/Xl3/4 and later the pro1. Although i'm more a Soundcraft-guy (K3/Series4/5) My only business is rockmusic and especially drums so i can't tell if they suite fakemusiciansamplebinarycodebeatStarTrekmusic...
In some ways, this reminds me of the Focusrite LiquidMix; a few buttons, a couple of rotary encoders, but LiquidMix processed completely in the device.
I can't vouch for the controllers' build quality but the huge advantage of outboard, physical controls is you're *listening*, not watching the audio on computer. Significant. I *can* vouch for the need for equal loudness match comparisons. PS: the cube speakers: typically only one is needed. True mono.
Arf ! Everybody make reviews about the same stuff because they send it to you. Common ! they send it to every sound ingenireering channels. Choose your reviews !
I would only use their reverb (DVR250-DT) and delay unit (TC2290-DT.) It makes sense for it to be hardware especially for live tracking. Bit like how the Lexicons are on virtually every console. The way these compressors and EQ's are done seems more annoying to use than just your mouse in a plugin. Also when you buy both compressors, you are on the price of the Softube Console 1 which is worth it way more for probably most people since you get the entire channelstrip on hardware.
all these cheap controllers (the sone, or softube) are an insult to users. Cheaply made in China (or wherever) based on the specs they send them - laughing at the million of head nodding producers (aka DJ's) making music for themselves or RUclips.
Like everything done by TC : no updates, no corrections based on reviews... Who would invest in low shelf gear ? idea might be great, but why such a small factor when addressing to engineers ?
Excuse me for my offtopic question, but why don't you mix or master fully "in the box" with software only? Doesn't it give the same sound quality and better usability? It seams like all those hardware units you have are really great, but at the same time they all are kind of "Snake Oil" themselves compared to best software alternatives nowadays. Can you elaborate a bit more about it?
I use CC121 for Cubase, it is a Steinberg controller though. You might have some luck with other manufacturers for your DAW of choice. There are a lot available on Thomann
Cool, thanks. I started out with Cubase and worked with it for about a decade... But at one point all of the studios I was in were using Pro Tools so I made the switch..
@@ozzy3ml Ok cool, thanks for the tip. I used logic for a while, but every studio I go to seems to have ProTools so I just ended up using ProTools exclusively. But Logic Pro is awesome as well. As long as we are able to create, right? 😊🎶
Honesty appreciation... you rock! I have always wondered why companies don't make dedicated controllers... I'm thinking with this myself is that the price is a bit silly. Lookatthefetureset of controllers and included software to get an idea that this seems like a badly thrown ball. At that price range if you look at an AVID Artist control, where you're controlling whatever plugin and multiple other things at the original sell price of £1000 (Now around £500 secondhand) you're not really getting much with these in comparison. I doubt they would be a buy for a budget studio and they don't seem to be offering enough for a professional studio. Broadcast maybe, not some much with the control because any controller could do that but the metering is good. In a studio, you're already going to have metering on your screen, probably in the broadcast also... if it's radio that is. It would make sense if these plugins had become staples in studios first, but they're not... so I'm confused, who are they for? Someone who only swears by their plugins?
Maybe it would be a good (better?) idea, to use old/cheap smartphones or tablets for plugin remotes? Well, we dont get rotary encoders or pushbuttons then, but we got a high quality touch screen. Better than nothing, cause everyone already got old phones or tablets, that we don't use anymore. Could be connected via WLAN :-)
soooo am i crazy but on the EDM track, that didn't sound level matched between original and TC processed, so the original just seemed louder to me. i have no idea. also not bypassed it sounded like the transients just went away. i'm fine with being crazy though, so there's that!
To me it sounded better while being quieter, so that's always a good sign. Not sure why White Sea thought it didn't work on the EDM track... to me the acoustic was 50/50 if it was any better or not.
On a re-listen, the acoustic one is also clearly better with processing on. Maybe White Sea has some club venue considerations in mind when it came to the EDM track or something... I don't know how mastering engineers think.
Hmm, I don't fancy these very much, but what about that reverb? TC Electronics DVR250-DT Digital Vintage Reverb Controller - would love to know more about it, like can it compete with your Yamaha on snare?
MASTER X sounds mega clear . Huge Oooompf you can put in dat bass Padawans ; ) . Amazing ! BUT what is he doing with it ??? Brah ? Finally some great sounding mastering gear which is almost a gift concerning the price . The price is very magical and somehow not really easy explained compared to much more expensive overhyped bullshit like WEISS or softube in general. Side effect : controller units are honest true high grade quality ...zero wiggle on knobs . Expensive feel to it indeed
I would love to have a physically controller that works with every plugin in my daw. For sure it would be work to configure each plug in for the controller. The daw would know what Plug in is open and can send / receive the data from the external controller. Why t.c. think about this? I think they would sell 100000 times more controllers in this case.
"Defeats the Pro-L2" is a very serious statement. It sounds like the Brickwall is a winner and the Master HD is a loser, especially given the price. If I can have a better featured and quality limiter than the Pro-L2 with even minor hardware control to help with that process, that's definitely significant enough to make a purchase.
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Would rather use Ableton Push 2 (600$) or Minilab MK2 (150$) with my Ableton set-up (which are pre-mapped). They're better quality, they're also useful for production. I know this is just for Ableton Live but I think you can find other midi controllers doing the same thing for other DAWs. Even Behringer X Touch would be more useful.
This was an interesting concept but a definite no for me. The first company who really nails a plugin controller with great feeling high quality pots with take all my money. I'm talking shadow hills / overstayer pots standard. But until then...
The controllers look pretty nice but sadly they require their own plugin. I would prefer a universal control device that uses the generic mackie remote protocol. I don’t know how feasible that would be now I come to to think of it.
As someone who's built my own controllers and had to learn the Mackie protocol (It is *very* poorly documented, so this involved spending a lot of time with a midi monitor reverse engineering how the trusty old Mackie worked) , it probably wont work. There is SOME accomodation in the protocol for plugins, but its really more of a case of it hijacking the pan knobs and sending messages to the display strip. But theres no standardization beyond that. Some daws do useful stuff with it, most don't. Honestly, Softube has this market cornered. But yeah we absolutely need a standard for this kinda stuff. The problem is it seems music industry suck at protocols. OSC should have been the all dominating godzilla standard, but it left so much to implementation its far less useful than old fashion midi. Unfortunately its main alternative Midi-RTP is horrible, encapsulating Midi inside a protocol designed for video conferencing which makes it insanely complicated and so nobody except apple uses it. I honestly think its something the open source community should do. Put together a community of tinkerers and something like the devs from ardour, and maybe the reaper guys (not open source, but very community oriented) and just work out what needs to go on top of Midi 2 to get all these things together so plugin makers know how to standardise and hardware manufacturers know what to do to support that standard.
Just to add some background information... I STILL use a TC Electronic G-System in my guitar rig simply because it sounds good enough, the switching capabilities are great, and to build something similar around a Boss ES-8 or whatever that has the same functionality would be VERY expensive. That said... I have NO idea why they insist on making their controls with every product so obtuse!! They have the multi-band compressor in this vid, why limit the functionality by imposing the weird band interaction scheme rather than making them independent like everyone else?! And in the case of my G-System, why am I setting parameters like Shape and Colour for the reverbs, instead of adjusting parameters that tell me what they're actually doing?! TC needs to STOP trying to be unique, and START being more user friendly with their parameters. Just make good sounding products that don't require me to know what blue tastes like to make them do what I want them to do!!
That’s not a fair statement. There’a hell of a lot that goes into inventing, patenting, development, creating the product and packaging.... all that and then the “crap shoot” of actually making money from it !!!?!???!? Crazy So sending out samples for peer and pro reviews is a great way to: 1. Spread the word with free advertising 2. Find flaws and suggestions for your product (hey Pro Tools are you listening?🤪) 3 And again, increase sales by increased awareness. It’s always easy to be an outside observer/ critic. But once you get in that game you start to realize how deep the waters are. 😊❤️🎶
do we need everything you run the sound through? we did not need all this in the 70's and 80's. the focus should be on the best possible sound quality! much of today's mussik has poor sound quality! loudness war and dynamic compression ruin the sound! I do not think the sound quality of studio equipment needs to be any better than much else. if you have 10 sound modules, you run through 10 preamplifiers!
Dude you are blowing the shit out of that mix!! Holy crap, no wonder it sounds better bypassed!
5:49 Electronic song : Sandstorm by Darude
6:55 Rock song : Darude - Sandstorm
Thank me later.
Well do you have the name of the Lewit song? I mean the rock one? I cannot find it on their channel.
@@janbramburek2006 yes actually, the song is called Sandstorm
This is why I prefer just using my own midi controllers. I like getting hands on, but i also want the flexibility of assigning the knob or button to whatever combination of commands I prefer to use.
Yup. Agree 100%.
Can you recommend some good midi controllers for this application? I got a run of the mill midi keyboard with some hands on buttons but im looking towards more of a all buttons and sliders stuff. Thanks
@@ugisja I can. I reviewed the two that I use for this purpose. ruclips.net/video/RyBSSeRFgJI/видео.html
The only reason I keep waiting for the perfect fine-tuned controller to come out is because they handle multiple instances. If I could find a generic midi controller that worked well across multiple channels I would definitely prefer that. The closest I ever got was the Novation Nocturn, but even that was a bit of a slog with the wrapper plugins and what not.
There is an entire generation of engineers out there who don't even know what it's like to work with faders and knobs. You guys don't know what you're missing.
Even if it get's your hand off the mouse for a few minutes, that alone is worth it! #Handcramps
Really nice and thorough demo Wyste! Thank you for including my music!
Who cares as long as they're making good music
@@matmurk8536 The experience of making it counts and different strokes for different folks.
@@GaragebandandBeyond the experience of making it actually doesn't count in regard to the music unless it changes it. For someone who never used physical faders they never had to make an adjustment like those who used them in the past. If you're a good engineer having physical faders should make no difference on your end product. It may not be how you ideally would like to work but your ears are the ones doing the job.
@@matmurk8536 If you produce as much music as I do, the experience of making it most definitely can affect the end results. When creating recordings is uncomfortable after hours and hours of work, engineers end up taking liberties which a lot of us would call lazy instead of proper. The toll it can take on your body after decades is not to be taken lightly.
If you've never had the privilege of turning knobs or moving faders, I'd say "don't knock it until you've tried it".
@@GaragebandandBeyond I've used outboard gear, I'm 37 years old and have been producing and mixing for some time now. I've used all kinds of gear and have spent tens of thousands of dollars on it. You got used to using faders and knobs to mix and produce your music so you believe it to be a downgrade or disservice to work without them, but for those whom never have or dare I say it prefer to work without them it is not a downgrade. Especially when you consider they have Slate Ravens and touchscreen setups nowadays. To each their own of course. But I'm sure they're music comes out the way they intended it to without them using knobs and faders.
I like the idea of small dedicated controllers but the execution isn't there and the price doesn't match that build quality.
PHENOMENAL MIXING POWERS! Itty bitty interface.
Great reviews I love all the TC controllers
It says a lot that I preferred the sound of the original over the effect in every case
Remember that due to the nature of compression and limiting without level matching/makeup gain the original will be louder. Due to the way our ears work 90% of the time we will like what ever is louder, interesting when looking at marketing for almost every plugin/hardware unit. Tricks us into thinking it is better than it is.
@@KarlClarkeMusic but layering effects over a mastered track isn't much help. And that's the key word, "mastered". The song was done, adding things to it will definitely make it worse. I don't like the release settings in the first song, that doesn't have to be gain matched to tell. I know that this was just supposed to be a demonstration of the thing and not to be judged by the songs we hear but by it's usefulness and for us to hear how it stretch it's legs. So good stuff.
I've been looking at generic midi controllers on Amazon. It's kinda amazing how cheap some controllers are (surely not the best quality, just like these). $20usd for a 64 pad controller with rgb lights in each pad. Similar price for generic controllers with faders, knobs, and keys. If we wanted to make our homemade controller super fancy, tiny 1080p color screens can be had for $30 or $40usd. Coming up with a way to mount the screen in a way that resembles an actual product would be the hardest part. And using something like autohotkey as a way to configure the "software", one could easily make remappable and hotswappable midi templates for it. If only I had some free time to do this. It'd be a fraction of the cost and a lot of fun to make.
TC also now makes these type of controllers for Midas EQ and Dynamics. As a primarily live engineer who loves the Pro Series (which at least the dynamics module is based on) I would love to see a video about them if possible. I was only able to find one other and they didn't have the controller in the review.
Hi Jonathan, I made a video of the TC Midas EQ on my channel. Not a review though but if interested I may done one
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Thanks for doing this with the examples with analog, next time can you also include ProL2 examples only?
These knob and fader interfaces for DAWs are excellent but they're soooooo expensive for what they are. Some of these other brands are just a plastic box with plastiv knobs and faders but they cost like $600 and up!
De midas controllers and plug ins zijn wel geweldig. Ik heb alle controllers/plug ins van tc in deze lijn behalve de multiband compressor en de limiter omdat ze niet goed klinken en de controllers niet handig zijn gemaakt. jammer want de rest van deze serie is echt geweldig! Check ze maar eens!
Helemaal mee eens. Ik heb de 2290, 8210, 1210 en PEQ3000 en de interfaces maken mijn workflow zo veel makkelijker. (Misschien mijn gitaristen achtergrond; knopjes hebben om aan te draaien en in te drukken ipv klooien met een muis) En de sounds bevallen me ook heel goed. Vooral de spatial expander is top, wat mij betreft.
You can use an old piece of gear such as the Behinger BCF2000 to control you Plugins too. Works well for me...
Excellent, informative review as always. Thanks! 👍
great take on them. nearly didnt recognized sandstorm today. must be them controllers
They're Digital Reverb and Delay are amazing.
Agreed. It's not Valhalla level but it is still incredibly good for the feature set. Still swear by VintageVerb
@@shoey6123 Hahah, Not Valhalla level. You have no clue. The sound of TC reverbs have nothing in common with Vintage Verbs and do not aim in this direction. There is no better
They seem really useful. You were smashing the shit out of the master when A B . You should match the levels at least so it doesn’t sound like the original is better. Ease up on the settings. Thanks for the review. Like your work. Going to buy some
That “I wanna” song is dope
You mean Darude - Sandstorm?
@@meru_lpz , idk it had a cymbal crash on every 1
Here's the song. ruclips.net/video/OSR5prFJ3fI/видео.html
Great, no i now that maybe only the brickwall would be usefull for me;). But first my eye is on the PEQ3000 Midas eq. I own the tc1210dt, tc8210dt, tc2290dt and the dvr250dt controllers and they all are really outstanding if you'asked me....
And when i mixed live back in the days i loved the times on the Midas H3000/Xl3/4 and later the pro1. Although i'm more a Soundcraft-guy (K3/Series4/5)
My only business is rockmusic and especially drums so i can't tell if they suite fakemusiciansamplebinarycodebeatStarTrekmusic...
In some ways, this reminds me of the Focusrite LiquidMix; a few buttons, a couple of rotary encoders, but LiquidMix processed completely in the device.
The liquid mix is a great bit of hardware, I'm still using mine today!
I can't vouch for the controllers' build quality but the huge advantage of outboard, physical controls is you're *listening*, not watching the audio on computer. Significant.
I *can* vouch for the need for equal loudness match comparisons.
PS: the cube speakers: typically only one is needed. True mono.
Thank you for this cool demo
They look like they would be useful in a post set up. Streamers will want a good look.
does the plugin come with the controller?
The one where he remembers analog is a thing ...lol. Great video!
Arf ! Everybody make reviews about the same stuff because they send it to you. Common ! they send it to every sound ingenireering channels. Choose your reviews !
I love the form factor, things I like, but don’t need. 😆
I would only use their reverb (DVR250-DT) and delay unit (TC2290-DT.)
It makes sense for it to be hardware especially for live tracking. Bit like how the Lexicons are on virtually every console.
The way these compressors and EQ's are done seems more annoying to use than just your mouse in a plugin.
Also when you buy both compressors, you are on the price of the Softube Console 1 which is worth it way more for probably most people since you get the entire channelstrip on hardware.
all these cheap controllers (the sone, or softube) are an insult to users. Cheaply made in China (or wherever) based on the specs they send them - laughing at the million of head nodding producers (aka DJ's) making music for themselves or RUclips.
Just Got my TC Icon Dock Holds 8 And just 1 USB cable powers all Of the Icon series and it comes with Rack ears 😎 Worth the 200$ TC Icon Series Dock.
I’ll make on of these for Reaper
Would love to see a live chat between you and Chris from Airwindows!
Like everything done by TC : no updates, no corrections based on reviews... Who would invest in low shelf gear ? idea might be great, but why such a small factor when addressing to engineers ?
Excuse me for my offtopic question, but why don't you mix or master fully "in the box" with software only? Doesn't it give the same sound quality and better usability? It seams like all those hardware units you have are really great, but at the same time they all are kind of "Snake Oil" themselves compared to best software alternatives nowadays. Can you elaborate a bit more about it?
I believe it might have something to do with “wire = tone”
Umm, I guess you haven't been doing this for very long
@@rrroadrabbit LOL wire ... you know nothing about electronics .... get an electrical engineering degree and get back with us
Were you seriously trying them on finished (i.e. already mastered) material? Classic Wytse...
I’d love to have a USB fader .... any suggestions ?
Thanks for all the great work that you do !
🤩❤️🎶
I use CC121 for Cubase, it is a Steinberg controller though.
You might have some luck with other manufacturers for your DAW of choice.
There are a lot available on Thomann
Cool, thanks.
I started out with Cubase and worked with it for about a decade...
But at one point all of the studios I was in were using Pro Tools so I made the switch..
I love my presonus faderport, would buy a new one immediately if something happened to it. Have had it for many years now. I use Logic btw.
@@ozzy3ml
Ok cool, thanks for the tip.
I used logic for a while, but every studio I go to seems to have ProTools so I just ended up using ProTools exclusively.
But Logic Pro is awesome as well.
As long as we are able to create, right? 😊🎶
Honesty appreciation... you rock!
I have always wondered why companies don't make dedicated controllers... I'm thinking with this myself is that the price is a bit silly.
Lookatthefetureset of controllers and included software to get an idea that this seems like a badly thrown ball.
At that price range if you look at an AVID Artist control, where you're controlling whatever plugin and multiple other things at the original sell price of £1000 (Now around £500 secondhand) you're not really getting much with these in comparison.
I doubt they would be a buy for a budget studio and they don't seem to be offering enough for a professional studio.
Broadcast maybe, not some much with the control because any controller could do that but the metering is good.
In a studio, you're already going to have metering on your screen, probably in the broadcast also... if it's radio that is.
It would make sense if these plugins had become staples in studios first, but they're not... so I'm confused, who are they for?
Someone who only swears by their plugins?
Maybe it would be a good (better?) idea, to use old/cheap smartphones or tablets for plugin remotes?
Well, we dont get rotary encoders or pushbuttons then, but we got a high quality touch screen.
Better than nothing, cause everyone already got old phones or tablets, that we don't use anymore.
Could be connected via WLAN :-)
Lots already doing this, lunar UAD, logic remote, cubasis etc.
soooo am i crazy but on the EDM track, that didn't sound level matched between original and TC processed, so the original just seemed louder to me. i have no idea. also not bypassed it sounded like the transients just went away. i'm fine with being crazy though, so there's that!
I couldn’t make it louder with the TC
To me it sounded better while being quieter, so that's always a good sign. Not sure why White Sea thought it didn't work on the EDM track... to me the acoustic was 50/50 if it was any better or not.
On a re-listen, the acoustic one is also clearly better with processing on. Maybe White Sea has some club venue considerations in mind when it came to the EDM track or something... I don't know how mastering engineers think.
Allways on point!!!!!!
Hmm, I don't fancy these very much, but what about that reverb? TC Electronics DVR250-DT Digital Vintage Reverb Controller - would love to know more about it, like can it compete with your Yamaha on snare?
I'm still waiting for someone to make a USB version of a Lexicon LARC for controlling my 480 plugins.
that Lewin songs seems great!
They sound best bypassed on that material, what's the point? they go to the effort to make nice controllers to offer nearly no control.
MASTER X sounds mega clear . Huge Oooompf you can put in dat bass Padawans ; ) . Amazing ! BUT what is he doing with it ??? Brah ? Finally some great sounding mastering gear which is almost a gift concerning the price . The price is very magical and somehow not really easy explained compared to much more expensive overhyped bullshit like WEISS or softube in general. Side effect : controller units are honest true high grade quality ...zero wiggle on knobs . Expensive feel to it indeed
I would love to have a physically controller that works with every plugin in my daw. For sure it would be work to configure each plug in for the controller. The daw would know what Plug in is open and can send / receive the data from the external controller. Why t.c. think about this? I think they would sell 100000 times more controllers in this case.
you can do it with a bcr2000 and logic...
hmmm No volume match
Of course it's not the point here, but *super* enjoyed the demo music on this one! 👍👏
"Defeats the Pro-L2" is a very serious statement. It sounds like the Brickwall is a winner and the Master HD is a loser, especially given the price. If I can have a better featured and quality limiter than the Pro-L2 with even minor hardware control to help with that process, that's definitely significant enough to make a purchase.
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Did you do a review on their peq or Dyn product??
Philips hifi speakers for mixing?
I need that m1 review! Please :(
Its arriving monday
Thanks!
If you buy the hardware, do you automatically get the plugin, or do you have that also buy that separate ??
Comes with the hardware.
you should do a video on submission audios flatline. Very curious if its snake oil
Check out a program called Session Recall, it’s an absolute delight for, well... recalling sessions
This is snakeoil only. The compressor plugin is good but no need a controler.
Have you reviewed any wes audio stuff? It seems like it would be your thing, in theory
I was thinking the same thing.
TC had cool plugins before everyone, not sure what happened between then and now.
Compressor deesser was an amazing compressor plug. I still use it today on occasion
Behringer happened
Motorola stopped manufacturing DSP chips, that meant the end of TC's System 6000 & Powercore. And besides TC also the Access Virus died with it.
@@hurmpie3984 wow, never knew that! cheers
Well behringer bought them...
U should do a snake oil on the mike dean plugin
Would rather use Ableton Push 2 (600$) or Minilab MK2 (150$) with my Ableton set-up (which are pre-mapped). They're better quality, they're also useful for production. I know this is just for Ableton Live but I think you can find other midi controllers doing the same thing for other DAWs.
Even Behringer X Touch would be more useful.
Snake Oil for TB Audio DSEQ please!
This was an interesting concept but a definite no for me. The first company who really nails a plugin controller with great feeling high quality pots with take all my money. I'm talking shadow hills / overstayer pots standard. But until then...
Anyone got these ? I’m looking to cop if worth it…
I just wish this company would stop being bullies 🙏🏾😔
The controllers look pretty nice but sadly they require their own plugin. I would prefer a universal control device that uses the generic mackie remote protocol. I don’t know how feasible that would be now I come to to think of it.
As someone who's built my own controllers and had to learn the Mackie protocol (It is *very* poorly documented, so this involved spending a lot of time with a midi monitor reverse engineering how the trusty old Mackie worked) , it probably wont work. There is SOME accomodation in the protocol for plugins, but its really more of a case of it hijacking the pan knobs and sending messages to the display strip. But theres no standardization beyond that. Some daws do useful stuff with it, most don't. Honestly, Softube has this market cornered. But yeah we absolutely need a standard for this kinda stuff. The problem is it seems music industry suck at protocols. OSC should have been the all dominating godzilla standard, but it left so much to implementation its far less useful than old fashion midi. Unfortunately its main alternative Midi-RTP is horrible, encapsulating Midi inside a protocol designed for video conferencing which makes it insanely complicated and so nobody except apple uses it.
I honestly think its something the open source community should do. Put together a community of tinkerers and something like the devs from ardour, and maybe the reaper guys (not open source, but very community oriented) and just work out what needs to go on top of Midi 2 to get all these things together so plugin makers know how to standardise and hardware manufacturers know what to do to support that standard.
You DIDNT SAY THE TRACK NAME! SANDSTORM - DARUDE!!!!
Wait! Are you telling me this wasn't Sandstorm by Darude?????????
Sound Radix surf eq review
not too good, not too bad... yeah sounds like music tribe/behringer. I'm good thanks
Must be having a hard time selling them if they're asking for reviews.
I guess 😂
To be fair, having seen this review, I can see why!
@@necrojem6355 Uli needs all the help he can get ;)
Just to add some background information... I STILL use a TC Electronic G-System in my guitar rig simply because it sounds good enough, the switching capabilities are great, and to build something similar around a Boss ES-8 or whatever that has the same functionality would be VERY expensive.
That said...
I have NO idea why they insist on making their controls with every product so obtuse!! They have the multi-band compressor in this vid, why limit the functionality by imposing the weird band interaction scheme rather than making them independent like everyone else?!
And in the case of my G-System, why am I setting parameters like Shape and Colour for the reverbs, instead of adjusting parameters that tell me what they're actually doing?!
TC needs to STOP trying to be unique, and START being more user friendly with their parameters.
Just make good sounding products that don't require me to know what blue tastes like to make them do what I want them to do!!
That’s not a fair statement.
There’a hell of a lot that goes into inventing, patenting, development, creating the product and packaging.... all that and then the “crap shoot” of actually making money from it !!!?!???!? Crazy
So sending out samples for peer and pro reviews is a great way to:
1. Spread the word with free advertising
2. Find flaws and suggestions for your product (hey Pro Tools are you listening?🤪)
3 And again, increase sales by increased awareness.
It’s always easy to be an outside observer/ critic. But once you get in that game you start to realize how deep the waters are. 😊❤️🎶
🔥🙌🏼
Looks promising...
Don't you mean 'thanks to Darude for providing me with Sandstorm'? ;-)
Sounds better with out it.
Dude, do you have A snake oils list lol
But is it snake oil
man i can't believe they used the shitty LED matrix displays on these too. it's bad enough on the guitar tuners
Great idea but pretty bad execution. They should give it a retry.
That things make u fiddle around a lot more than working directly with the plugin, what a stupid invention😂
Replace mouse and keyboard by two knobs. Weird flex but ok.
Definitely doesn't sound as good as the sandstorm track demos. Sandstorm sounded more analog
All of these TC controllers are too small.
do we need everything you run the sound through? we did not need all this in the 70's and 80's. the focus should be on the best possible sound quality! much of today's mussik has poor sound quality!
loudness war and dynamic compression ruin the sound!
I do not think the sound quality of studio equipment needs to be any better than much else.
if you have 10 sound modules, you run through 10 preamplifiers!
More plastic waste for something very limited, I'd rather use a midi controller for that
Yeah, no. I just really feel uncomfortable supporting anything coming from Music Group nowadays.
Great idea, awful execution
original master is best!
not on all of them. These plugins are top notch. Depends when and how you use them.
3rd!
ye ok knob manyak
FabfIlter is better
no.
The reviews is getting better and better but the music ... Hell no!
Why so small...TC ...are u poor? Or funny? Or why do you play jokes on grown men???