HOW TO Prevent Shift Flare on a 5R110 5R110W Transmission Powerstroke 6.0L 6.4L
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- A discussion on how to prevent shift flare on a 5R110 transmission and score some upgrades at the same time!
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Ed spent 30 min of his time helping me diagnose my transmission issues!! This guy is the real deal. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Every minute made my day. Nobody ever researches information before a dead failure. Two thumbs up. Cheers
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Great video Ed, thanks for educating me on the phone about this! Will be my next upgrade
Just did solenoids and filters on my 5R110W. I'll be dropping the pan again in a couple of weeks to change the filters as recommended. At that time, i'll also upgrade the dummy plug on the solenoid body/gasket. Wish I had $$$ for even a 6.4L pan.
Always such good informative videos thank you ed. One of these days I will make it out to that area you have helped me out loads on my 5r 110w thanks Ed. God bless Glenwood Iowa Richard
Stumbled across your website looking for info on alternators and cables (Mechman) upgrades and or kits for early 2003 6.0 F350 Super Duty 4x4 (286000+ miles) and wound up here!!
Now I feel like I need to go to dang transmission shop!
Holy Cra#
The most understandable info since Diesel Tech Ron
Thank Ya and definitely subscribed.
Had this problem the shift solenoid didn't help. Problem I had was that the direct drive clutch steels were bending under uped shift pressure due to tuned transmission. Sonnax makes a hi cap direct drive apply kit that puts a thicker apply plate and thins backing plate so steels won't bend making the tcm think it needs more fluid that it should. Put this kit in and there won't be any releaning when switching tunes.
Excellent video with clear explanations!
After installing these 2 solenoids, my truck shifts REALLY fast into reverse and with more force than shifting into drive. Did I mix up the two solenoids or is that normal?
Thank you for the very informative video, I just subscribed and will start scouring all your other videos
Could a bad solenoid be the problem if I’m having a delay going into reverse and drive and when it goes it slams a bit hard…
Great video, love the 5R110.:)
I have 2008 6.4 shifts hard in 3rd and one time I heard like grinding or something stripped from the transmission when I gas it gas it would increase in sound.
great video and explanation. Id suggest one other part when dropping the pan. The trans temp sensor. i hear these can go bad and cause some funky stuff.
Absolutely! www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=395/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd395.htm
12:48 Please verify the torque on the pan bolts. Video said 89 inch-pounds. I am consistently seeing the specification to be 11 foot-pounds = 132 inch-pounds from other sources. If you read this, please do your own research.
Good stuff Ed. No flare for me but this service is on my list for the near future. Gonna have to fill that shopping cart 🛒 lol.
Thanks, Jack! This is a conversation we've had so very times...it was about time we made a video on it. Only about 200 more videos to shoot.... ;)
I replaced all my solenoids and am still experiencing bad shift flair and sometime in and out of gear in 5th any suggestions.
Nice video well explained.. gonna get this done...
Thank you! Please let us know if you have questions! Oh...and don't wait too long on things like this - it's not like any of us can add clutch material, lol
Hope this works imma guy with the flair and its slips pretty bad in 5th thanks for the video!
It works to eliminate the flare in most cases. In cases where it doesn't, things have simply progressed too far. If that is the case, we can set you up with the parts to rebuild your own trans or can hook you up with a crate trans from one of about eight different builders. Good luck!
@@ficmrepair ended up putting another trans in...i have a sct x4 tuner should i bump up my line pressure? Or no not rly also can i get a link to get a rebuild kit? For the old tranny i still got it
Derrick Poppe The most you can bump your line pressure in software is 25%, but every little bit helps!!
The solenoid kit is at www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=279/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd279.htm
The rebuild kit for the 03-04’s is at www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=558/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd558.htm.
The rebuilt kit for the 05’s and newer is at www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=559/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd559.htm
Great informative video, thanks!
Excellent information thank you
Very good video
Curious if you have any thoughts on a 6.0 transmission that seems to shimmy/shutter under load going up a mountain pass but not all the time. Does not seem to do it in 4x4 and has never done it on flat highway driving. Can't recreate the problem at the shop it is currently at. Seems to happen around the 50mph mark and have not identified the gear as of this time. If I back off the throttle it stops the shimmy/shuttering. Could it be the beginning of this problem you are discussing here?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Cheers!
Hey just wanted to ask something I’m new diesel owner. Got used f350. Does the 6.0 feel like a slip in transmission when you drive it not warmed up? Once warmed up drives excellent?and my transmission is fully rebuilt. Some people I asked say it’s normal 6.0 acts up if you don’t let transmission warm up is this true? Any person give me some advise?
Where's the video that shows this job?
Clean your grounds and maybe add ones missing to the trans and add one to transfercase
Why does the website say for 2005+ only need 1 dummy plug?
my 6.4 trans acts like it wants to go in gear and builds up pressure but it acts like the emergency brake is on and wont move where do i begin
also no codes is it a fluid problem.
Looking for info if dead in first gear... get going and then fine. Come to a stop and truck crawls -5r110w
I have a f250 2005 5.4l range sensor it says lower imput and tow Haul light it flashing. I changed the sensor and the problem not fixed p0707
thanks! I have codes P0748; open circuit solenoid A; sounds like this could work for my 6.4!!
Damn it ford! There's every inch I need to go thru this old girl
Yeah, if it's not one thing it's another for sure! At least now you know!!
@@ficmrepair yes, thank you. Def experience the flare last night too. Added to the list! 📃
I'm turbocharging my 2005 v10 f250. I'm looking for some, do this not that, transmission advice.
I replaced both the solenoids, billet dummy plug, and pressure switch from your company several years ago. I also upgraded to the deep pan, and 6.4 filter several years later. I also had installed the dieselsite external full flow filtration system, several years before that. A year or so ago I developed a random 3/5 shift flair. I have always serviced the transmission, and the external toilet paper filter. Did everything right, with all the recommended upgrades, and still developed a fair problem bad enough to set an over fueling code, because of the increase in engine speed during the flair. I have never experienced the tow haul light coming on. Could you advise what else I could do to remedy the cause of the flair. I am not running any type of tune, and have never drove the truck hard. I do tow a 6600 lb trailer once in a while. I also run Amsoil transmission fluid well before I did any of the modifications. Pleas help
If you already have the modified Solenoids then you are likely out of clutch material. Every time you allow the transmission to do that flare it rapidly removes clutch lining from your clutches. It only takes a hand full of major unmitigated flares to wipe out the linings completely and put your transmission in a steel on steel situation which rapidly overheats fluid and can weld the steels together.
If this isn't the problem then your apply piston could be leaking.
In both cases you've used the transmission all you can and now is the time to rebuild it or trade it in for a rebuilt unit because the more you wait the worse the damage will be.
All the mitigation steps told about in this video and done by you are to hold off problems that are known to develop. Not completely cure them. No mention of what year truck or even how many miles it has but eventually all transmissions need to be rebuilt.
@btwbrand is 100% on point. Gold star!
How do I get these parts
Mi transmision no hace los cambios please helpp
What about custom tuning? I Recently deleted my 6.4 and installed a pretty mild 80hp custom tune. I don’t drive the truck often and I’m usually pretty gentle with it so after about a week I let her rip and the trans was kind of all over the place. In one instance I floored it at like 25 mph and it downshifted hard and barked the 37” tires.
I thought about adding the modified direct clutch solenoid but the guys that built my tune said it may not do anything since the tune already raises line pressure in the trans. Is there any benefit to adding these parts to a tuned truck? Thanks!
Yes. Tuning can only boost line pressure by at most 25%. Running the modified Electronic Pressure Control solenoid doubles the line pressure. Please just ensure that you run the modified EPC and the modified direct solenoids together.
Do you have any Canadian distributors?
So hears my dilemma should i spend a couple hundred now and try and prolong my trans till next summer when I can afford a built trans or shld I now and be able to beat my truck a little more until then🧐 I have a powermax and 205s and its getting a little slippy
I'd recommend getting these upgraded parts now and then hope to avoid the spend next summer entirely!
Hey man I have a 2008 f250 6.4 and the truck will shift hard, and in tow/haul it will get stuck in 3rd thanks!
Hey, Dallas! I'd say that the two solenoids mentioned in this video - the EPC *www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=275/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd275.htm) and the Direct (www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=274/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd274.htm) make total sense as things to try. Of course, while you are in there, you might pick up a trans dummy plug (www.ficmrepair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=343/category_id=-1/mode=prod/prd343.htm), but you are good in the pan and filter department (well, unless a filter is due) as you have a 6.4. Hope this helps!
I'm experiencing the flare. But my transmission is running cold any ideas why
Running cold isn't generally an issue, but could be related to tuning on an otherwise stock setup. Give us a call at 515-897-4459 if you want to cover things in more detail!
Will this upgrade kit hold up with a stage 2 turbo and 175/30 injectors?
Adding this upgrade will allow more power to be held, yes, but is not a replacement for things like a 300M billet input shaft... :)
I had somebody rebuild my trans with a shift kit and all the stuff to kinda make it last and hold 600hp (not making that much) but I still get gear float and then the limp mode come on then shifts perfect.. I don’t even have 10miles on it. Can somebody explain what’s happening?
Wasn’t rebuilt right
I'd agree that it wasn't rebuilt properly, but I would caution AGAINST using the solenoids that this video mentions in a trans that already has a shift kit in it as the two methods of firming up shifting will work against each other.
I got code 0772 shift solenoid E stuck on. Will just changing this solenoid be ok?
Apologies for the late response. We'd absolutely try that, yes.
I would ask how the audio is so damn loud and not enough echo??
lol. We are working on the echo issue for sure!
When is the video showing this coming out?
dethreveng Aug,5 2019
@@dodgemayham2536 The video directly after this was made on August 15th and that is how to test an alternator.
I have a 2006 f350 superduty 4x4, how can I know which transmission model it has?
An 06 has the 5R110 with the need for a singular dummy plug. Is that what you needed?
@@ficmrepair Yes, thank you. I also need to know what is the best upgrade for this transmission? thanks
@@luismviera7982 get the mishimoto trans cooler and change your Transmission pan to either an aftermarket aluminum pan with extra capacity or to the pan and filter from the one's used on the 6.4l 08 - 09 model year.
@@timsmothers8740 thank you very much chief but I don't have an oil transmission cooler, the lines are connected to the radiator that you recommend.?
im planning on upgrading with your solenoids, my 03 is shifting fine but im running stock 3.73s and 37's, it was a lil tricky when i changed the revs per mile with hptuners, so i left alone and used forscan but could only go to 600 revs and adjusted the pulse count, speedo is perfect now, will i be ok or should i do something else like stack a trans only with a sct or disable CLADPS after solenoids are swapped?
You should be okay as is, but running a trans tune is always a good idea as it makes for firmer shifts (resulting in less time between gears and therefore less clutch wear).
@@ficmrepair Okay thank you, I'll be honest up till a year ago I didn't know anything about diesel's let alone 6.0s thanks to you and few others I've came along ways. although seems like the more I learn less I know, overall I'm better off just listening to you and stop wasting time and money looking anywhere else for parts and tuning. Yeah maybe I can find better prices if I looked hard enough here and there. but honestly I've never found someone so willingly take the time to answer some of my from outta left field questions with genuine passion and knowledge at a personal level. Thank you. FUCKIN LOVE RUclips!!!
Brand new trans from ford with 10k miles . Truck makes 602 on the dyno. Truck can’t handle it.
I bet! I'd suggest the solenoids as a way to prolong the life of what you have, but would have tried to have you at least consider one of the many Stage 2 transmissions that we also offer if you were going to replace the thing altogether and not just another stock one.
Can i just turn in the #25 torqx 1 1/2 turns in..?Help that out real quick? Man ya guys have alot great parts!
On the EPC Solenoid i mean,,..
@@KERNFUZED We would not recommend that you do this, no - there is just too much on the line and this is not something you want to be wrong about. Each modified replacement EPC solenoid that we carry is calibrated with no guesswork involved. Hope this helps!
We are a full-service shop and carry over 16 million parts for the Powerstroke 6.0 driveline alone, not to mention the many millions of parts we carry for the Cummins, Duramax, and non-6.0 Powerstroke crowd! If you have a light-duty diesel, we've got you covered! It's all about options for us - letting the public know the options that exist in the marketplace so that they can choose the best solution for their situation.
@@ficmrepair Thank you so much for the quick response yes I thought that iffy..while I'm just dropping pan out update filter .I run a Warren diesel hot street tune .KC stg2 turbo std.ect..155000miles .but that flare scares me too sometimes..is is good to say I put one your solenoids in while I'm there I can't hurt..everything else very well lb. Maintained on exursion
@@ficmrepair oh man I'll be getn parts all but factory.
Diesel site sold me their own stand pipes and dummy plugs and they both failed within 1000 miles. Everything was torqued to spec and lubed before assembly. I'll never trust diesel site ever again. And I will openly try to dissuade anybody from using them to purchase anything. Mostly because they refused to refund me on their defective product. Not even talking about the cost of 2 tows. 2 days of work missed for me to do the drivers side and 3 months and $1300 to pay someone to do the passenger side because it was winter and I ain't got a heated work space. So I'd like to give diesel site a big thumbs down!