I have used Cargill C-6 - experimenting with 20 lbs, Ultra Wax from Candle Making Supplies (California) - I experimented with about 15 lbs, and Coconut Container Wax from Candles and Supplies -and made 40-50 candles with this. With the Cargill, and the Ultra Wax (off-white) I heated them to around 180 (they melt yellowish) and initially poured at 170 (Cargill) and 165 (Ultra Wax) and BOTH gave me significant frosting. I tried pouring lower and pre-warming the containers, both metal and glass. I tried 160, 140 and 120 to try to minimize frosting. But these two both trapped air (and I am scrupulous to avoid air when stirring and pouring) and even bubbled when burning. No matter what I did I got frosting. Hotter, cooler. I tried warming the outside of the glass container to try to remove the frosting which sometimes works, and I think it got worse. And after the initial burn to test wax pool and cooling the tops looks like the surface of the moon with craters and pits... just ugly. The Coconut Container wax was bright white and melts essentially clear. I followed the directions from the web page, heating to 180 and pouring above 160. It was quite smooth, some wet spots on clear containers and it tended to form a cavity around the wick, cooling on top and then shrinking some underneath. . It looks good, but you light it up and suddenly you have tunneling. This was true with any container as tall as its diameter. Shorter candles did shrink, but at that pouring temp it might be expected to. I got essentially no frosting but sometimes in taller candles I had to do a re-pour, like paraffin pillars. The white made for nice colour ranges, and the white was (to my taste) more 'luxurious' than the off-white. I do this as a hobby, I don't sell candles, I give them away. And I love to experiment. OH, and while one site recommended CD wicks they do mushroom. And the Ultra Wax site recommended Ultra Wicks which were WAY too small. Eco wick size recommendations were way too small. The HTP series is my current favorite, the only issue being that with the curl at the top, the wax pool tends to be off center - and you will need larger wicks. (I ended up using 1312 for 1 pint mason jar size and /1212/126 for anything more than 3 inches and 105 for standard 8 ounce mason jars.) Perhaps someone has had better luck with the two off-white waxes. I got so frustrated I threw away the Cargill I hadn't used, and I'm thinking I will toss the 20lbs or Ultra Wax I haven't used as well, and stick with the bright white. The sinkholes were tedious but repairable. Surely since these waxes continue to be offered for sale, someone must be buying them and having success. If you have suggestions to help me not throw away my wax, please I'm all ears!!
I really would love to see a review on this wax with cotton wicks and a comparison of plain soy and scent throw. Especially hot scent throw. I’m very curious about it.
I tried this wax as I'm using C3 already (which I find a bit tricky to wick) C6 dried lovely and the cold and hot scent throw I thought was great but I heart that over time it frosts quite badly and I also use a bit of colour so I ditched it. I'd be really interested to hear your results though as I still quite like this wax. It looks smooth and burns better than C3 I think.
I use the cargill C-3 flakes & I really love it burns nice and long and throws a pretty good scent , but I’ve seen this coconut wax there too and was wondering about it too
Priyanka Habib I make all kinds of different sizes and use EricX Light 100% Organic Hemp Wick, 200 FT Spool, Well Coated with Natural Beeswax, Standard Size(1.0mm) You can buy it on Amazon
Erika Wyatt Hi! I need to switch soy waxes and wondered if you’re still pleased with the Cargill C-3 wax? I’m a fairly new at candle making and would greatly appreciate knowing if the manufacturers directions for pouring, pouring FO and finally the temp at which to pour into your containers have worked for you? I’ve really been struggling with a wax I purchased from Amazon that “was” working, but now is not behaving well (lots of sinkholes) and I haven’t changed my process. I like that the C-3 is in flakes, because that is what I’m already familiar with. Thank you so much in advance, I hope you do reply? Bright blessings to you!
Love4Life1 I love my cargill- C3 🥰 wich i buy at the General wax factory in Hollywood 50 lbs for $80.00. Makes about 60 or few more 16once candles & works well for me . Now, I do not know what you use to melt your wax, or if you actually have the melting pot like I do. I watch my flakes closely as I stir and melt it to prevent clumping and overheating. The moment it is liquidy I turn off my melting pot and drain it into the pouring pot. Once it hit 100° I add my powder dye & fragrance , and shortly there after when the wax looks a little cloudy, I pour it slowly into the candle glass.Now once the candle is set, sometimes the top of the candle will have some bubbles or cracks, on which I use my heat gun to melt the top a little bit to get a nice even surface. After that I do not touch them for the next six hours until set . Hope this helps a little and have fun making beautiful candles 💕
would love to see this tested in candle science straight sided black tumbler containers. cant wait to see how the hot throw comes out and also what wicks you would use in that container with that wax. Thank you
@@DevilCreme hi, I wanted how did the candle look after you tested the candle and it cooled down. I have used coconut soy blend before from flaming candle and after I cured it for 8 days I tested the candle. It was a great scent throw but when the candle cooled down it look like it curdled. I heard with natural waxes it’s normal but I don’t like the look of it. I want my candle to look smooth after it cooled down. I’m currently looking for another wax. Any recommendations?
So jeff now that youve had ample time to test this wax im curious to know how well it threw compared to 6006 or 464 and also if you had any frosting issues with this wax?.
I really dislike Soy 464, and I'm currently looking for a different wax. The frosting is driving me up the wall, and so is the heat throw.😫 I want to see how the scent throw is with this.
The first time I used this combo for my melts, I didn’t like it. The second time I used it for my candles I loved it. My throw was great and I didn’t have much clean up with the gun because I had smooth tops. I will say, I didn’t purchase through candlescience but used a local Vendor here in LA called General Wax and they can barely keep it on their shelves. Great Video as always ❤️
I’m trying to understand the difference between this wax (C-6) vs the wooden wick virgin coconut wax. I’m also trying to understand which booster wooden wick is better the .03 vs .02 , my candles don’t have the hot throw I would like and am trying to find the best wax for that along with the right wick
Hi i would love to know jeff if you could help me im doing Squeeze wax and as i love all your advice on waxes and everything could you please help me with the best recipe for squeeze wax ie best wax and best oil plzzzzzzz joanie IRELAND
Hi Jeff, I live in So Fla and my customers like strong scented candles. I purchased the joy wax and I can't seem to get a strong scent throw at all. I've ordered 2 separate batches and No scent throw.
I am making fire starters using wax impregnated specialized paper . The key is to inhibit the burning for obviously a slower burn and longer lasting wick . What do you recommend for slower burn ?
I’d like to know how it compares to 444 HT and CT. Does it solve some of the adhesion, bumpy top, seepage problems, like how much FO will it hold and temps. What’s better, (soy problem solver) this or Soy 10? This is less than soy 10 so it would be nice if it was a problem solver. Could it be sold in states like FL and TX, meltpoint?
It does, I used it and one of the batches I made had frosting where the rest of the two didn't. I uploaded a brief review of the first batch, will do a second video when all the rest of the batches cure.
Hi, just starting making candles. Started with the 464 soy and the hot throw is not strong at all 😞 just ordered paraffin IGI 4630... hopping that’s better. Please let me know what you recommend. I like very fragrant candles and these are not doing the job. Thank you!!
If you're looking for a healthier route for your candles - stay away from Paraffin. It's not good for you and unnatural. I use 464 and have a good hot throw. What brand are you using? How much fragrance oil are you using in each of your candles? If you don't use enough oil, you won't get a good hot throw. It needs to be proportional with the amount of wax you are using.
With 464, I will heat my wax until it reaches 185°F then pull it from the heat. I let the wax sit until it gets to 175°F then add my fragrance oils. Stir it until it reaches 140°F then pour into your containers!
Alyssa Massey If a Candle is not strong enough it could mean different things. Wrong wick, too small of a wick, not enough oil, too much oil. If it’s too strong you can cut the oil back a little. As far as throwing them out. I typically burn all of my testers down
@@StandleyHandcrafted if you didnt add enough oil would you have to throw the wax away and start fresh or could you re heat the wax and add the extra oil?
I've seen conflicting info on fragrance load. some say 6% and other say 10%. In your experience so far which is true? Also do you get discolouration with this wax and a wood wick? I'm having darkening of the wax and I'm not sure if it's common. Thanks!
Had high expectations but hard pass! The candle doesn’t have a nice “uniform” appearance of 464, sink holes, uneven, hot gun didn’t help much. Hot throw is rubbish (compared same fragrance oil in other waxes).
Hi, Jeff I see this video was made a year ago could you please link the video on how you like the the c-6 wax please
I have used Cargill C-6 - experimenting with 20 lbs, Ultra Wax from Candle Making Supplies (California) - I experimented with about 15 lbs, and Coconut Container Wax from Candles and Supplies -and made 40-50 candles with this. With the Cargill, and the Ultra Wax (off-white) I heated them to around 180 (they melt yellowish) and initially poured at 170 (Cargill) and 165 (Ultra Wax) and BOTH gave me significant frosting. I tried pouring lower and pre-warming the containers, both metal and glass. I tried 160, 140 and 120 to try to minimize frosting. But these two both trapped air (and I am scrupulous to avoid air when stirring and pouring) and even bubbled when burning. No matter what I did I got frosting. Hotter, cooler. I tried warming the outside of the glass container to try to remove the frosting which sometimes works, and I think it got worse. And after the initial burn to test wax pool and cooling the tops looks like the surface of the moon with craters and pits... just ugly. The Coconut Container wax was bright white and melts essentially clear. I followed the directions from the web page, heating to 180 and pouring above 160. It was quite smooth, some wet spots on clear containers and it tended to form a cavity around the wick, cooling on top and then shrinking some underneath. . It looks good, but you light it up and suddenly you have tunneling. This was true with any container as tall as its diameter. Shorter candles did shrink, but at that pouring temp it might be expected to. I got essentially no frosting but sometimes in taller candles I had to do a re-pour, like paraffin pillars. The white made for nice colour ranges, and the white was (to my taste) more 'luxurious' than the off-white. I do this as a hobby, I don't sell candles, I give them away. And I love to experiment. OH, and while one site recommended CD wicks they do mushroom. And the Ultra Wax site recommended Ultra Wicks which were WAY too small. Eco wick size recommendations were way too small. The HTP series is my current favorite, the only issue being that with the curl at the top, the wax pool tends to be off center - and you will need larger wicks. (I ended up using 1312 for 1 pint mason jar size and /1212/126 for anything more than 3 inches and 105 for standard 8 ounce mason jars.) Perhaps someone has had better luck with the two off-white waxes. I got so frustrated I threw away the Cargill I hadn't used, and I'm thinking I will toss the 20lbs or Ultra Wax I haven't used as well, and stick with the bright white. The sinkholes were tedious but repairable. Surely since these waxes continue to be offered for sale, someone must be buying them and having success. If you have suggestions to help me not throw away my wax, please I'm all ears!!
Would love to see testing using the low temp method
I really would love to see a review on this wax with cotton wicks and a comparison of plain soy and scent throw. Especially hot scent throw. I’m very curious about it.
Is like to see if you get the same results as I did as far as the frosted look. I can’t wait to see your future test with this wax!
Looking forward to the review video, as I love coconut lol!!
I don't think there's much coconut in here. If you Google it.
Yay!!! I’ve been waiting for this video, thank you Jeff!! 😍😍
Lenny Guerrero Feliciano Full review soon!!
Standley Handcrafted great! Can’t wait
I was wanting to know if you have done any videos on tins with wood wicks. And what is the best wax for that. Thank you.
I tried this wax as I'm using C3 already (which I find a bit tricky to wick) C6 dried lovely and the cold and hot scent throw I thought was great but I heart that over time it frosts quite badly and I also use a bit of colour so I ditched it. I'd be really interested to hear your results though as I still quite like this wax. It looks smooth and burns better than C3 I think.
I use the cargill C-3 flakes & I really love it burns nice and long and throws a pretty good scent , but I’ve seen this coconut wax there too and was wondering about it too
Priyanka Habib
I make all kinds of different sizes and use
EricX Light 100% Organic Hemp Wick, 200 FT Spool, Well Coated with Natural Beeswax, Standard Size(1.0mm)
You can buy it on Amazon
Erika Wyatt Hi! I need to switch soy waxes and wondered if you’re still pleased with the Cargill C-3 wax? I’m a fairly new at candle making and would greatly appreciate knowing if the manufacturers directions for pouring, pouring FO and finally the temp at which to pour into your containers have worked for you? I’ve really been struggling with a wax I purchased from Amazon that “was” working, but now is not behaving well (lots of sinkholes) and I haven’t changed my process. I like that the C-3 is in flakes, because that is what I’m already familiar with. Thank you so much in advance, I hope you do reply? Bright blessings to you!
Love4Life1
I love my cargill- C3 🥰 wich i buy at the General wax factory in Hollywood 50 lbs for $80.00. Makes about 60 or few more 16once candles & works well for me .
Now, I do not know what you use to melt your wax, or if you actually have the melting pot like I do. I watch my flakes closely as I stir and melt it to prevent clumping and overheating. The moment it is liquidy I turn off my melting pot and drain it into the pouring pot. Once it hit 100° I add my powder dye & fragrance , and shortly there after when the wax looks a little cloudy, I pour it slowly into the candle glass.Now once the candle is set, sometimes the top of the candle will have some bubbles or cracks, on which I use my heat gun to melt the top a little bit to get a nice even surface. After that I do not touch them for the next six hours until set .
Hope this helps a little and have fun making beautiful candles 💕
would love to see this tested in candle science straight sided black tumbler containers. cant wait to see how the hot throw comes out and also what wicks you would use in that container with that wax. Thank you
Thank's for making this video!
I’d like to see it compared to 464 golden brand. Which has better scent throw or whic is better in general.
I just tested c6,c3,464 and 464/c3 blend...C6 had the stronger scent of all...464 had the weakest, I cured all the candles for 8 days
@@DevilCreme hi, I wanted how did the candle look after you tested the candle and it cooled down. I have used coconut soy blend before from flaming candle and after I cured it for 8 days I tested the candle. It was a great scent throw but when the candle cooled down it look like it curdled. I heard with natural waxes it’s normal but I don’t like the look of it. I want my candle to look smooth after it cooled down. I’m currently looking for another wax. Any recommendations?
Could you please do a video on all seasons cocosoy a05? Also on how to perform different tests on a candle?
I would love it if you came back and showed us how this burns and how it cures.
Would you do a comparison to the coco soy wax from wooden wick? 👀
It’s good but their shipping and customer service is horrible.
Hey Jeff, any updates on this wax?
Have you posted a second vid review yet ? Eager to hear what you have to say.
Where is the follow up for this wax? Def interested in using this but would like to see your opinion on this compared to like a 6006.
Wooden wick in 9 oz glass container burn time for 9 oz container plz & Thx
jeff, did you do a follow up video on this wax??
And it’s cheaper than the coconut paraffin blend which is a plus
Yeah but the Para Coco is going to be a better wax than soy.
When are you going to finish the testing and give us the results?
MAKE A REVIEW VIDEO 🕯️
WITH SCENT & COLOUR IN GLASS
CONTAINER
GLASS CONTAINER REALLY SHOW OF CANDLE 🕯️😍
Hi hoping it will be better that the C3 , cause the C3 is horrible do not work for me at all? Thank you for your videos
Hi!☺
Make a test Jeff please in the AMARIS dream Vessels.
So jeff now that youve had ample time to test this wax im curious to know how well it threw compared to 6006 or 464 and also if you had any frosting issues with this wax?.
Hi Jeff , have you had chance to test this for wax melts yet ? Thank you 🤗
Hi Jeff .. I wondered if you will be testing this wax and posting a video?
I really dislike Soy 464, and I'm currently looking for a different wax. The frosting is driving me up the wall, and so is the heat throw.😫 I want to see how the scent throw is with this.
The first time I used this combo for my melts, I didn’t like it. The second time I used it for my candles I loved it. My throw was great and I didn’t have much clean up with the gun because I had smooth tops. I will say, I didn’t purchase through candlescience but used a local Vendor here in LA called General Wax and they can barely keep it on their shelves. Great Video as always ❤️
I’m trying to understand the difference between this wax (C-6) vs the wooden wick virgin coconut wax. I’m also trying to understand which booster wooden wick is better the .03 vs .02 , my candles don’t have the hot throw I would like and am trying to find the best wax for that along with the right wick
Hi i would love to know jeff if you could help me im doing Squeeze wax and as i love all your advice on waxes and everything could you please help me with the best recipe for squeeze wax ie best wax and best oil plzzzzzzz joanie IRELAND
I was waiting for this video lol.
Gigie Candle maker Full video next!
Hi Jeff, I live in So Fla and my customers like strong scented candles. I purchased the joy wax and I can't seem to get a strong scent throw at all. I've ordered 2 separate batches and No scent throw.
what do you think is the best type of wax for a great hot & cold throw as well for no sweating or stinking
Love it this video is so helpful
I am making fire starters using wax impregnated specialized paper . The key is to inhibit the burning for obviously a slower burn and longer lasting wick . What do you recommend for slower burn ?
Have you tested yet Standley? Love to see these in the Zen and Nova vessels
Not yet, testing it tonight
Kiyyah Daniel hey did you ever use this wax with your zen vessels, I just bought both these vessels and wax and was just wondering how did it do
Does anyone know how the coconut soy wax from Virginia Candle Supply company is in to comparison with wooden wicks coconut soy wax?
What is the cure time on this wax? And is there an update video on this wax
I’d like to know how it compares to 444 HT and CT. Does it solve some of the adhesion, bumpy top, seepage problems, like how much FO will it hold and temps. What’s better, (soy problem solver) this or Soy 10? This is less than soy 10 so it would be nice if it was a problem solver. Could it be sold in states like FL and TX, meltpoint?
I will be getting some 444 and testing it very soon.
are you going to do a tutorial on the coconut wax?
I would like to see your point of view on c3 soy wax
Agreed! I am dying to know his thoughts on it because I use it and I love it.
Im curious to know if this wax will have any frosting issues
It does, I used it and one of the batches I made had frosting where the rest of the two didn't. I uploaded a brief review of the first batch, will do a second video when all the rest of the batches cure.
I would to see a video with this wax and the Coconut Apricot. Which one do you guys like best?
I like C6 better
Has there been any testing on this one yet?
Hi have you ever used the cargills c3 wax?
Which wax melt packaging is best for this wax.
Anyone familiar with coconut 86? I just ordered from Virginia Candle supply. Very reasonably priced? Is it any good?
Hi, just starting making candles. Started with the 464 soy and the hot throw is not strong at all 😞 just ordered paraffin IGI 4630... hopping that’s better. Please let me know what you recommend. I like very fragrant candles and these are not doing the job. Thank you!!
How did you like the IGI 4630? HT?
If you're looking for a healthier route for your candles - stay away from Paraffin. It's not good for you and unnatural. I use 464 and have a good hot throw. What brand are you using? How much fragrance oil are you using in each of your candles? If you don't use enough oil, you won't get a good hot throw. It needs to be proportional with the amount of wax you are using.
@@silviacannarella4715 Hi, what temp do you add Fragrance?
With 464, I will heat my wax until it reaches 185°F then pull it from the heat. I let the wax sit until it gets to 175°F then add my fragrance oils. Stir it until it reaches 140°F then pour into your containers!
@@silviacannarella4715 Great! Thanks so much! ☺️
Can you suggest what wick works best with this wax.
coco soy with eco wicks and lx wicks please!
When you make a candle and it isnt strong enough or its to strong what do you do? Throw it all away and start over or re use the wax etc,?
Alyssa Massey If a Candle is not strong enough it could mean different things. Wrong wick, too small of a wick, not enough oil, too much oil.
If it’s too strong you can cut the oil back a little.
As far as throwing them out. I typically burn all of my testers down
@@StandleyHandcrafted what size wick would you recommend for a 8 oz jar and a 12oz jar
@@StandleyHandcrafted if you didnt add enough oil would you have to throw the wax away and start fresh or could you re heat the wax and add the extra oil?
@@alyssa.017 You could reheat and add more oil but figuring out how much would be difficult and probably not worth the effort.
Hey 👋 ever test this one? Your thoughts please
What was ur thoughts
Did you even conduct any testing with this wax?
I've seen conflicting info on fragrance load. some say 6% and other say 10%. In your experience so far which is true? Also do you get discolouration with this wax and a wood wick? I'm having darkening of the wax and I'm not sure if it's common. Thanks!
Fragrance load is really personal preference but I get much better results with 8%
You will get some discoloration with wood wicks after burning.
@@StandleyHandcrafted Thank you so much!!
Can I mix this wax with paraffin?
Did you ever do any testing?
Can you try the c3?
Jasmine Beltran I will definitely get some C3
Any chance you can test with Essential Oils?
Candle Science has discontinued it.
Had high expectations but hard pass! The candle doesn’t have a nice “uniform” appearance of 464, sink holes, uneven, hot gun didn’t help much. Hot throw is rubbish (compared same fragrance oil in other waxes).