Thanks for 100 subscribers everyone! Let me know what else you'd like to see a video on The difficulty is ranked based on how much health, mechanics the enemy have + How many pikmin they can kill. The smoky progg dies pretty easily but could easily wipe out 100 pikmin if not careful and thats why its ranked as deadly Im just displaying that despite these enemies normally being pretty hard to defeat, Rock pikmin can destroy them in seconds
the waterwraith imo isn't deadly as a boss fight, you can demolish it if you have even 1 purple pikmin. otherwise it's deadly. the man at legs is wayyyy easier in pikmin 4 tho due to oatchi
The only deadly was man at legs, the rest were easy esp smokey progg. I hate how much of a joke smokey progg was in this game, I was so excited to see him and then he was gone.
@@matthew3910he was so weak in this, the recommended 33 purple pikmin shredded him so hard I didn’t even see him do anything, and glow pikmin just glow mob and one tap him
If you just run into his head or the front of his body it’s fine. It has a pretty big hit box and even if you do take damage, you’ll probably have a million of bones to heal him with bc you get one after one upgrade.
honestly i think it'd be more valuable to know how MANY rock pikmin it takes to nuke an enemy, rather than how hard it is to use oatchi rush on an enemy with rocks.
and with this power, you can hear all of those ADORABLE ASS SOUNDS THEY MAKE! i cant get over them, there needs to be more crushing enemies so i can use these little boys more
@@ogpandamoniumThis video is ranking the difficulty with rock pikmin, though, so it wouldn’t matter if you had them or not, all that matters is that the ranking is for them.
@@ng_canadianBut still, all you do is rush them forward and they will defeat her eventually. Also, she’ll usually end up rolling the larvae over, so they wouldn’t pose too much of a threat to rocks.
You don't have to whistle your pikmin back immediately to rush, like at 0:57 and 1:06, you could have gotten a quicker kill just from the pikmin running back to attack the enemy.
In my opinion I think the sovereign bulblax is way harder than just hard, especially when you just find them about and don't have 100 rock pikmin just on hand just in case.
well yeah, purps do pretty much the same damage (only X.05 less though), do extra immediate chip damage when landing on enemies, and can actually latch onto them
@@dog7676I think it's because the charge in this game works the same as throwing them, instead of the normal ground charge you do with the captain. the throw impact deals lots of damage with the rock pikmin, compared to their rush being normal damage.
i've had a friend genuinely try to convince me that rock pikmin need a buff because purples are in the game, LMAO. trust me, i've tried both firsthand and can EASILY tell you... that their strengths are both situational in this game and whichever one is better depends more on what your build is, which onions you have, what skills you have on oatchi, how many flarlics you have, how many pikmin you're willing to bring with you in the moment, and if you're playing co-op or not. ESPECIALLY for which enemies you're fighting and how many pikmin you're willing to commit to that. this really isn't a game where you can just use only one strategy and call yourself good or optimal. and i wish people stopped trying to apply a tier-list mentality to a series that absolutely doesn't work with that mindset.
Largely agree. However I have yet to see anything top 50 glow and 50 purples. Pretty much everything dies instantly to glowmob + purple spam, but I imagine rocks can force a similar effect.
Imo I've always, and will continue to play the series just using my favourite types of pikmin (50 yellows, 50 blues) and even tho it comes from the fact that electricity was deadly in pikmin 2, I feel that you really can just use any pikmin you like. Pikmin 4 was the first game I was finally able to control 100 whites, and you could bet your ass I wish more than anything I could have started with the white jewel. I feel the only thing pikmin 4 got dead wrong was hiding all of the onions to later stages. The game is easy, enemies are lazy, and you'll never *genuinely* need to farm pikmin. At this point, every pikmin has a use, whether it be collection, speed, battle, there's alot to consider in these games thats not just... combat Not to mention dog just absolutely destroys every enemy and is literally invincible so the whole "tier list" mentality is stupid, pikmin types dont matter in a world where dog can rush, stun, and kill in 4 bites lol
Rock pikmin:purple pikmin may i ask u for some power? Purple pikmin:i don't give power but i can recommend u doing push ups* *Rock pikmin after the push ups*
I’m assuming they are ranking some of these based on their general difficulty, otherwise the bulborb is genuinely more dangerous than the armored cannon beetle
rock pikmin are pre4ty helpful against the empress bulblax, considering they're immune to being crushed. and with the piktophone, that fight'll be a complete breeze.
You instant kill the final deadly bosses you said deadly I thought you need to get four hits four hits!! How did you do that how do you do that easy peasy
Rock pikmin are literally my least favorite kind. Purples (and bombs) replace them in literally every scenario, and now they have their own onion so rocks are just straight up useless.
literally no? have you actually tried using rock pikmin in the game, in a playthrough? or do you have that opinion because its hard to use them in the one dandori mission when you're only given 15 and because purple pikmin existing VAGUELY resembles the "purple pikmin OP" joke? have you actually tried this playstyle or are you shitting on the concept of it? purple pikmin have lower DPS because their bonus damage is only activated on throw, making them a much worse choice for enemies that shake pikmin off quickly. i would much rather use a medium sized army of rocks against an enemy like the burrowing snagret or small emperor bulblax, than try to chuck purples at them. you need an example where rock pikmin are a MUCH better choice? literally every floor of cavern of the king between floor 1-8 is filled with enemies that are better suited for rock pikmin. meanwhile, the purple onion is locked behind optional side content that takes an in-game day to do, as well as clearing an ENTIRE SIDE CAMPAIGN, and is designed to be cleared after you have several upgrades. obtaining purple pikmin requires an extensive amount of time, in a game where success is measured by time. i can think of several scenarios where obtaining purple pikmin (or worse, letting them die), is a waste of resources and time. this is on top of rock pikmin not being slow as shit, and purples being vulnerable to literally every damage type in the game. they couldn't even keep an immunity to mitites in this game! that was their ONLY resistance in pikmin 2, and they just forgot about it! and bombs make purple pikmin a waste as well, so there's no point! point is theres no useless or universally better pikmin, people are just scared to try one combat strategy because they're scared to try more than one strategy in the game.
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The difficulty is ranked based on how much health, mechanics the enemy have + How many pikmin they can kill. The smoky progg dies pretty easily but could easily wipe out 100 pikmin if not careful and thats why its ranked as deadly
Im just displaying that despite these enemies normally being pretty hard to defeat, Rock pikmin can destroy them in seconds
Kill all enemies with only 5 Pikmin
@@lmertschagreed
the waterwraith imo isn't deadly as a boss fight, you can demolish it if you have even 1 purple pikmin. otherwise it's deadly. the man at legs is wayyyy easier in pikmin 4 tho due to oatchi
2:58 ah yes. The most deadly enemy in the game. The pellet posey.
The only deadly was man at legs, the rest were easy esp smokey progg. I hate how much of a joke smokey progg was in this game, I was so excited to see him and then he was gone.
@@matthew3910he was so weak in this, the recommended 33 purple pikmin shredded him so hard I didn’t even see him do anything, and glow pikmin just glow mob and one tap him
@@TheBennestBenfeel like they did most returning nightmares dirty. Nevertheless its still an amazing game
@@TheBennestBen We sure we played the same game as each other?
@@renzo7725il say they brought the puffstool back when it just gets one shot with two 100 rock pikmin oatchi rushes
I feel like this speaks more to how strong Oatchi's rush ability is than anything else.
I think Oatchi's rush snergizes really well with rocks. Even more than purples.
And having lots of flarlic
@@ShuckleShellAnemiahaving loads of pikmin is just good in general.
@@ChrisHinners008 that’s what I mean, more flarlic = more pikmin = easier combat
@@pepperonipizza8200 i think purples and reds have the same damage multipliers now, only doing extra damage when theyre first thrown onto an enemy
This is what happens when you give the pikmin thay have triple impact damage the ability to hit 100 times in less than a second.
Actually it’s double 🤓
Pretty sure they do quadruple unless I'm misinterpreting. Average damage is 10, rock pikmin do 40.
@@tylazermk8271 Yuo you're right
@@tylazermk8271Rock pikmin do 40 on first impact, other pikmin do 20 on first impact
@@tbdtv900 Pretty sure other Pikmin only do impact damage on small enemies.
I defeated smoky prog by running into it with oatchi a billion of times bc I was too scared to lose any pikmin lol
It is dangerous to otachi?
If you just run into his head or the front of his body it’s fine. It has a pretty big hit box and even if you do take damage, you’ll probably have a million of bones to heal him with bc you get one after one upgrade.
I thought i was the only one lol. I did the same for the empress hehe
so bout that with night expeditions…
So that's why the rock onion isn't given to you until the last 2 areas
It's also behind the bulblax
I just had oatchi carry it without killing teh sovereign bulblax then I went back to kill it
Man the new Piklopedia makes this kind of content so much easier and more fun to do
I mean, I’d go down if 100 rocks were thrown at me
honestly i think it'd be more valuable to know how MANY rock pikmin it takes to nuke an enemy, rather than how hard it is to use oatchi rush on an enemy with rocks.
still roughly 100, but i agree, Oatchis rush is too good
and with this power, you can hear all of those ADORABLE ASS SOUNDS THEY MAKE! i cant get over them, there needs to be more crushing enemies so i can use these little boys more
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Why is the Empress Bulblax difficult if she can’t even kill rock pikmin?
She's a bit more complicated than simply rushing her.
If she's spawning larva, she can be downright murderously hard
You usually font have rock pikmin when fighting her
@@ogpandamoniumThis video is ranking the difficulty with rock pikmin, though, so it wouldn’t matter if you had them or not, all that matters is that the ranking is for them.
@@ng_canadianBut still, all you do is rush them forward and they will defeat her eventually. Also, she’ll usually end up rolling the larvae over, so they wouldn’t pose too much of a threat to rocks.
same for water wraith
Man oatchi is hella op. Im def gonna do a oatchiless run (of course i would have to use him at forced parts)
i'm doing a run where i only ride oatchi when i really need to. I love being able to charge my pikmin more often
We call this stoning animals.
You don't have to whistle your pikmin back immediately to rush, like at 0:57 and 1:06, you could have gotten a quicker kill just from the pikmin running back to attack the enemy.
In my opinion I think the sovereign bulblax is way harder than just hard, especially when you just find them about and don't have 100 rock pikmin just on hand just in case.
I kill it 1 hit whit 30 Red pikmin and 20 ice he dn'dt even got froze
he still has 5x less hp than the original Emperor Bulblax and his attacks have almost 2x less range lol
@@carnage0685that’s terrifying, conidering my encounter with it before the rock nin
The tried and true tatic of "throw rocks at its head"
Do you think that the enemy would feel like they're getting stoned to death?
i like how he just OBLITERATES the smoky progg before the theme actually even starts and yet he has the nerve to call it deadly
Intead of rushing the Empress Bulblax, I just disband the rocks and spectate them murdering her
0:05 HE IS SO ROUND
I’ve been sitting here cracking up about how the Bulbear literally said “😦”
and here I thought they nerfed rock and buffed purps from 3, I wasn't oatchi charging
nvm man at legs dies far faster to purp spam
well yeah, purps do pretty much the same damage (only X.05 less though), do extra immediate chip damage when landing on enemies, and can actually latch onto them
Have U watched "Pikmin Hybrids"? Pikmin fanz R talking about that video. (Don't forget about the special offer the creator left in the description.)
Further proof that flarlic is the most op upgrade in the game
Bruh I thought rocks got nerfed to the ground then instakilled a giant bulborb with just 45 when charged
in pikmin 3 it was often much better to throw them than charge since their charge dealt much less, but in this game it is the complete opposite
yeah, i still recommend spam throwing, so you can dandori with Oatchi
@@dog7676I think it's because the charge in this game works the same as throwing them, instead of the normal ground charge you do with the captain. the throw impact deals lots of damage with the rock pikmin, compared to their rush being normal damage.
How did a mamuta born the incorrect way take less rocks than an empress bulblax
Dude imagine getting pelted by a mass of rock about half the size of your body, and then having bits of it fly back against you over and over.
0:11 look at how they massacred my boy
Smoky frog didnt even get to finish the intro song smh
i've had a friend genuinely try to convince me that rock pikmin need a buff because purples are in the game, LMAO. trust me, i've tried both firsthand and can EASILY tell you... that their strengths are both situational in this game and whichever one is better depends more on what your build is, which onions you have, what skills you have on oatchi, how many flarlics you have, how many pikmin you're willing to bring with you in the moment, and if you're playing co-op or not. ESPECIALLY for which enemies you're fighting and how many pikmin you're willing to commit to that.
this really isn't a game where you can just use only one strategy and call yourself good or optimal.
and i wish people stopped trying to apply a tier-list mentality to a series that absolutely doesn't work with that mindset.
Largely agree. However I have yet to see anything top 50 glow and 50 purples. Pretty much everything dies instantly to glowmob + purple spam, but I imagine rocks can force a similar effect.
Imo I've always, and will continue to play the series just using my favourite types of pikmin (50 yellows, 50 blues) and even tho it comes from the fact that electricity was deadly in pikmin 2, I feel that you really can just use any pikmin you like.
Pikmin 4 was the first game I was finally able to control 100 whites, and you could bet your ass I wish more than anything I could have started with the white jewel. I feel the only thing pikmin 4 got dead wrong was hiding all of the onions to later stages. The game is easy, enemies are lazy, and you'll never *genuinely* need to farm pikmin. At this point, every pikmin has a use, whether it be collection, speed, battle, there's alot to consider in these games thats not just... combat
Not to mention dog just absolutely destroys every enemy and is literally invincible so the whole "tier list" mentality is stupid, pikmin types dont matter in a world where dog can rush, stun, and kill in 4 bites lol
@@XWNORST whites were invaluable in those Dandori challenges yeah. Each type has a good reason to use them.
@@XWNORST Bro showing his support to Ukraine with pikmin
I swear, pelting everything with rocks is the best option in both, Pikmin 3, and 4.
*_Especially against the dreaded Pellet Posey. _**_2:58_*
Rock pikmin:purple pikmin may i ask u for some power?
Purple pikmin:i don't give power but i can recommend u doing push ups*
*Rock pikmin after the push ups*
Imagine seeing a dog run up and throw hundreds of pebbles at you.
The game hasn't even been out for a month. It'd be a good idea to change the thumbnail so people don't get spoiled accidentally.
My guy, how is the smoky progg deadly to these guys!? They killed it in 3 milliseconds!
I’m assuming they are ranking some of these based on their general difficulty, otherwise the bulborb is genuinely more dangerous than the armored cannon beetle
cuz if you miss all of your pikmin die
rock pikmin are pre4ty helpful against the empress bulblax, considering they're immune to being crushed. and with the piktophone, that fight'll be a complete breeze.
"Purple Pikmin are STILL too over powered" 🤡
Rock Pikmin: 🍷🍷🍷🗿
While when charging rock pikmin, it doesn’t do lots of damage, but for some reason when rushing it does.
Well why do you think .
Cause rock pikmin have double impact damage
Rushing causes them to impact
Charging makes them do their regular attack
NOT PUFFSTOOL!
IT WASN'T BOTHERING ANYONE :((((
W... Were Rock Pikmin always this strong?
There's no such thing as a, "hard" or, "difficult" enemy. Pikmin 4 is the easiest of the series by a long shot
"Rock pikmin are bad!" Also rock pikmin:
actually, the footage shows the smoky progg isn’t hard to kill with 100 rocks. should’ve put it in easy/medium.
honestly depends on the angle cuz sometimes like half can go flying into the poision thingy and then just evaporate
Also, he could of just charged the egg and killed it before it spawned.
@@rodomify7681 Just like Pikmin 1.
I think they meant how dangerous the enemy is normally
tbf, if you mess up at all, you lose your whole squad
"nooooo you can't use oatchi to demolish everything in the game!!!"
"hahaha rush go brrrrrr"
Controversial opinion: rock pikmin are stronger than purple pikmin
Please for the love of god stop putting spoilers In the thumbnail
You instant kill the final deadly bosses you said deadly I thought you need to get four hits four hits!! How did you do that how do you do that easy peasy
You would also crumble under pressure to a hundred rocks
oh my god i love the sounds they gave rock pikmin
No rock pikmin we’re harmed in this video
Rock Pikmin aren't used enough in this game.
Rock < purple
The smoky progg was deadly?
for the waterwraith one you should have only gotten a single purple
So... the man-at-legs has more health than a smokey progg
3 out if the 5 in thr hardest tiers couldnt even harm the pikmin. I think they need a retierinh
I think it’s just how many hits it takes to kill them and how easy it is to attack them.
@@chibby7095 didnt the smoky progg get deleted in one second tho?
Oatchi battering ram
Oatchi battering ram
2:39 me when I pelt you with rocks.
New Speedruning Method.
Balancing Problem
water wraith: Deadly
rock pikmin: i cant be crushed you idiot
water wraith: **dies of rock pikmin with purples**
progg: deadly
rock pikmin: get 1 shoted
progg: **dies of rocks**
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Armored cannon beetle is not so hard
Deadly for them maybe.
no enemies were harmed in this video
hydrogen bomb
smoky progg: SIR this is ur death bois
rock pikmin:NOT TODAY
smoky progg: dies in 1 sec before getting slammed by rock pikmin
hears a loud *BONK*
Sticks and stones may break their bones.
So that's how I'll do it, just without the sticks. Right?
Ah yes, the hardest boss in pikmin history.
Anyways.
mass stoning
The true gub gub
they gave us rock pikmin and the empress bulblax in one game, oh poor empress
the views
Brickmin
A gun
Cool
Is it just me, or did anyone else grin once they saw the new items you could torture creatures in the Piklopedia with?
*murder* :)
Bro cassualy obliterates smoky phogg
I'm curious as to how little you have to use oatchi to beat pikmin 4
Thanks for the spoiler in the thumbnail of an enemy man tysm
🪨🪨🪨
we do not have the same notions of difficulty
I like the part about the rock pikmin
Bruh change thumbnail please
yeah rock pikmin are the best pikmin in 4
Thanks for doing my idea
Now do the Final Boss.
Pellet posey: deadly
my boys
😂 Rock Pikmin are still OP, glad to see Nintendo decided not to nerf these guys in the slightest.
They actually did nerf my boys but it's hard to notice, they get shattered and die when crushed on a hard surface like tile or rocks :(
Couldn't you do this better with purples?
Rock pikmin do the damage instantly
No
Actually
purple pikmin's gravity wave doesnt get triggered by the rush but rock pikmin's double damage impact hit does
Da wok pikman 💪
I feel like the Man-at-Legs shouldn't be able to kill Rocks, since they're impenetrable
Edit: I guess not lol
Rocks Pikmin are hallow on the inside and guns have the capability to break certain rocks.
bullets can break rocks though, and rock pikmin sadly aren't impenetrable. some monsters jaws can break them
Imagine having a literal gun and dying to a guy on a dog throwing rocks at you
i love how one of the enemies in this game is literally just an upscaled bulborb
There's a lot of upscaled enemies and it's literally just Nintendo being lazy af
Rock pikmin are literally my least favorite kind. Purples (and bombs) replace them in literally every scenario, and now they have their own onion so rocks are just straight up useless.
literally no? have you actually tried using rock pikmin in the game, in a playthrough? or do you have that opinion because its hard to use them in the one dandori mission when you're only given 15 and because purple pikmin existing VAGUELY resembles the "purple pikmin OP" joke? have you actually tried this playstyle or are you shitting on the concept of it?
purple pikmin have lower DPS because their bonus damage is only activated on throw, making them a much worse choice for enemies that shake pikmin off quickly. i would much rather use a medium sized army of rocks against an enemy like the burrowing snagret or small emperor bulblax, than try to chuck purples at them.
you need an example where rock pikmin are a MUCH better choice? literally every floor of cavern of the king between floor 1-8 is filled with enemies that are better suited for rock pikmin.
meanwhile, the purple onion is locked behind optional side content that takes an in-game day to do, as well as clearing an ENTIRE SIDE CAMPAIGN, and is designed to be cleared after you have several upgrades. obtaining purple pikmin requires an extensive amount of time, in a game where success is measured by time. i can think of several scenarios where obtaining purple pikmin (or worse, letting them die), is a waste of resources and time.
this is on top of rock pikmin not being slow as shit, and purples being vulnerable to literally every damage type in the game. they couldn't even keep an immunity to mitites in this game! that was their ONLY resistance in pikmin 2, and they just forgot about it!
and bombs make purple pikmin a waste as well, so there's no point!
point is theres no useless or universally better pikmin, people are just scared to try one combat strategy because they're scared to try more than one strategy in the game.
Pikmin 2 and pikmin 4 are equally balanced… just in opposite directions