Man Keith. This video got me in trouble 😂. I’m laying in bed next to my wife who is taking a nap, giggling my ass off at them jive ass moves you got during the music and she rolls over and says “what the fuck are you watching??? Bitches twerking or something?” 😂😂😂😂. Love the video man.
Been using gas powered blowers forever but thought I'd give electric a shot. I thought my old Echo ES-210 was a little under powered for my needs; so I picked up two different cordless brands to see which one I liked better. They come close to the CFM but fall way behind in the MPH/actual speed force of the air coming out by nearly half. So wet leaves or getting debris out of the lawn and nearly impossible. It seams they try to make up for the slower air by just putting a shorter/larger tube on them. I tried using for my front yard and the battery(4.0ah) on both only last around 8-10 minutes each. I generally need around 15 minutes with my Echo and only a spit of fuel. These combined didn't come close to cleaning what I could have with the Echo. Needless to say, they BLOW and both are getting returned. I didn't even think they were good enough to just sweep the shop.
One is loud but you can run for a few jobs without worry. the other is quiet but have to keep the charging in mind more often. When the batteries last all day, goodbye petrol forever
@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d Or a battery backpack..or upgrade to a high capacity batter that is 3-4x the capacity of the cheap base battery that comes with most tools.
@@pieroroccaysj the M18 comes with an 8Ah battery, which only gets you about 20 min run time. The largest M18 batt is a 12Ah, which is $200 by itself and only bumps run time to 35 min. That bigger 12Ah battery costs more than the Echo blower, on top of the $180-$215 for the M18 blower itself without a battery, or $300 for one with batt& charger.
Hey man I love your videos, I’m only 19 and I’ve been working a landscape job since I was 15 I seen some of your videos and I went out and got some lawns and started doing side jobs. Just completed my first landscape job took me 17 hours and I made $600 profit, same amount I make on an 80 hour check at my normal jo, best part the neighbors loved it and want me to do their yard as well. Your videos put a spark in me and now I’m addicted to the grind!
Bro good job I'd say if ur working 80hrs and only taking home 600 you need to look for other employment! At least tell them you need 20 an hr or something that just doesn't seem like enough! Keep working hard you will get there
I cant find any demo vids matching my needs. Got bigger leaves and seeds from talisay tree, and if I dont clean up within a day, neighbors been driving over it, and some rainshowers during the day. So its a bit different compared to the dried small stuff used in most vids
I have both. Although comparing my actual 2 is like apples to oranges. The battery one is a homeowner grade ryobi. Just use it to blow off our patio. It is light weight, cheap, quieter and easy for my with to start/use. Also have a ryobi drill and radio Can't say about durability. Only had it for 2 months but no problems so far. Petrol blower is a still bg86. Had it for 3years and no issues. Use it more as i mow 8 lawns as a side gig and also gets used to clean up leaves after hedgetrimming and a few times a year to clean a lot of gum leaves in my own yard from the neighbours gum trees. It is fairly loud, but has a lot longer run time and lots more power. Cost me $370. To get a (same power) battery blower bga 86 would would cost $449 just for the tool no battery or charger. I'm not willing to pay that vs $170 for the ryobi with a charger and battery and other tools.
I agree! The turf tracer is a beast of a mower. I just bought a used 2008 60" Turf Tracer, Hydro Driven, with the floating deck, sulky and ECS Handles for $2000. Money very well spent.
I'm not sure if you'll see this bro but I'm in my second year of my tree service and was wondering if there are any benefits to starting a youtube channel for my business? Will that somehow bring in more clients or will it somehow hinder my business or will it even have any effect on my business at all?
Pro Mountain Biker Yeah, one gas two stroke blower puts out as much pollution as 50 cars running at once. It’s bad. Then there’s all the debris you’re kicking up and breathing including fungus, mold and fecal matter. No joke.
I do landscaping, and i've got about 7 commercial grade blowers.6 backpacks, and 1 handheld. I've also got one Electric Kobalt leaf blower. so for work I would never use electric. I've tried various and they just don't have enough power and I know myself... I'd forget to charge one and it would suck. That said I love my electric blower because If i get back from the dump and have some small debris in my truck bed, I'll grab it because it's lightweight, and I don't have the pump/prime or pull start it. Electric blowers have a use, but if you are trying to get serious work done you gotta go with gas.
Jonathan Doble 2 9 amp hour batteries is enough to last me just about all day with a trimmer and blower. I love how light they are and te design but I still keep a set of gas powered tools as backup
Yeah that is key. I'm getting tennis elbow from pull starting stuff all day. Im thinking of going electric blower like this for blowing clippings etc. Lighter and no pull start big plus for the older guys
Ha ya know back 4 yrs ago I would’ve laughed at someone saying batt powered equipment is life but after recently using echos new 56v line of batt powered tools, I’ll admit it, I’ve been convinced. 🔥😎
You are the man. You have taught me alot and it has helped my business grow tremendously. I would like to meet you someday along with Eric. Just live a state below you.
I live in on a city corner with tress everywhere. September and October are hell because opposite and next door have contractors with loud gas blowers who come regularly. I asked 2 of them about getting electric and they looked at me like i was crazy.
I have the Ego 530CFM blower. Sure it’s powerful, but here I am on RUclips instead of blowing leaves around because I’m waiting for batteries to charge. VERY frustrating. I get 6-7 minutes on a full charge with the turbo button on. Pisses me off!
I love my battery powered gear from kobalt. 80v pushmower, trimmer, hedge trimmer and leafblower. use them on all my properties. guys laugh at me all the time as i laugh all the way to the bank. good video!
Dewued! Eighter of those are good, well I rather go with the Milwaukee works good for blowing out the garage and won't leave it like your in the California smog. It also works great in the summer when there is light clippings on the walkways and patio. Great video seemed fun.
I can see myself throwing the Milwaukee out the window after about 6 months.. It might be good for blowing off deck or patio before a bbq or party, but not everyday use
I think what a lot of people don’t think about is gas will always be superior to electric, unless they make electric waterproof, I know I couldn’t sit in my truck waiting 2 hours for the rain to stop to use the equipment to get the job done, id rather use electric for the weight ect, I will probably invest in the Milwaukee line of outdoor tools, but would have to keep the gas with me just in case
When it comes to electric - ego ( in my opinion) has the best. I have used the ego hedge trimmer , blower and chainsaw and cannot complain. The chainsaw and trimmer have paid for themselves ten fold. I’ve tried other electric products but always come back to ego. Also always remember to bring your charger and have one battery always charging, waiting to be swapped.
If neck and neck then clearly Battery wins hands down. Just bought a petrol. I live in Africa so that is what they use. Battery options here are really toys.
Nice review have a Stihl BR 700 the blast is like the jet bikes on water... and a small blower for fast jobs to....I haven't seen the Milwaukee's here in Ireland for sale but the echo are knocking around...I like the echo but I like the idea of the Milwaukee I look lighter
You clearly had a lot of fun making the video (little heavy on the edits and messing around parts) but its good to hear a "professional's" opinion on the battery unit. The refueling time on the echo is... what 45 sec and you already got premix for the trimmer right? But like you said for fast, quick and lighter jobs the cordless has its place... just not in my garage.
Nice vid man I did have a look at some of the Stihl battery blowers at my dealer last time I was there and they work pretty nice for small stuff. I have a BG56 and BR700 as my main 2 blowers that I keep on my trailer at all times but I reckon one of them battery ones would do the job of the 56 as well. Price on them is pretty damn good too I must say.
One of the offensive features of leaf blowers is the noise. From the video it sounds like both machines noise output is about the same. Can you comment on that? Also, I note that there are no fumes or bad smells with electric leaf blowers so that should add positive weight to the electric operated leaf blowers.
nice review doowwgg!!! I'd say the fuel all day only because it's better for the environment brotha and won't get a headache from breathing exhaust fumes in all day lmao
Keith!!!!! What is the name of that rock song in the beginning?? I totally need it for my workout playlist! Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I can tell you put in a lot of time editing this video. I remember when I commented on this last, you said you wish every video had that good of video editing. Well, I will say that this video has almost as good of editing as the other one your friend took! Your videos are solid bro and I've been following you for years. As a 21 year old now, you are so inspiring. Thank you for all you do bro!!!!!!!!!!!
You think that Echo is powerful? Try the Ryobi Gas Jet Fan Blower. That thing is really a beast. Also check out the Ego 56 volt electric battery blower.
Yeah, I knew the echo would be better, recently I just tried the handheld makita blower 36 Volt, that takes two 18 Volt batteries. From fully charged to 2 dead batteries in less than 20 minutes, electric blowers are nice for light work jobs. Gas powered blowers are definitely better for me, because it's quicker to refill the gas (4 stroke blower no mixing) than to charge the batteries for hours.
Yeah I mean if you only needed to use your leaf blower 10 minutes once a week sure get a battery powered one but if you need to use it for 30 minutes to an hour you’re going to hate your life with batteries, heaven for bid you’re actually a professional and you would never trust batteries in my opinion unless he had 20 of them in the truck
HAHAA nice review! I wonder how the long life of battery holds up. Habit of charging would definitely be the biggest issue. I have the echo. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Redo the test against the new king of electric lawn tools, the Ego 765 cfm blower. You may find a significant difference. The Milwaukee is more toy level.
The echo blows a wider margin. The Milwaukee blows narrower but a little farther. The Milwaukee is more accurate. Perfect for flower beds and mulch areas clean up
Man Keith. This video got me in trouble 😂. I’m laying in bed next to my wife who is taking a nap, giggling my ass off at them jive ass moves you got during the music and she rolls over and says “what the fuck are you watching??? Bitches twerking or something?” 😂😂😂😂. Love the video man.
Lol hahahahaha
😂 lmao...
LMAO Too funny! Bitches twerking
Tell her your the man and back hand her😂😂😂
i guess I'm pretty randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream new tv shows online?
Been using gas powered blowers forever but thought I'd give electric a shot. I thought my old Echo ES-210 was a little under powered for my needs; so I picked up two different cordless brands to see which one I liked better. They come close to the CFM but fall way behind in the MPH/actual speed force of the air coming out by nearly half. So wet leaves or getting debris out of the lawn and nearly impossible. It seams they try to make up for the slower air by just putting a shorter/larger tube on them. I tried using for my front yard and the battery(4.0ah) on both only last around 8-10 minutes each. I generally need around 15 minutes with my Echo and only a spit of fuel. These combined didn't come close to cleaning what I could have with the Echo. Needless to say, they BLOW and both are getting returned. I didn't even think they were good enough to just sweep the shop.
One is loud but you can run for a few jobs without worry. the other is quiet but have to keep the charging in mind more often. When the batteries last all day, goodbye petrol forever
You could also take a couple extra batteries and switch between them while the others are charging.
The problem with batteries just I don't like excessive heat what you get on hot summer days. A gas blower, if maintained, will last much longer
@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d Or a battery backpack..or upgrade to a high capacity batter that is 3-4x the capacity of the cheap base battery that comes with most tools.
@@pieroroccaysj the M18 comes with an 8Ah battery, which only gets you about 20 min run time. The largest M18 batt is a 12Ah, which is $200 by itself and only bumps run time to 35 min. That bigger 12Ah battery costs more than the Echo blower, on top of the $180-$215 for the M18 blower itself without a battery, or $300 for one with batt& charger.
Imagine what the neighbors thought if they were looking out the window when you had both blowers blowing a pile of mulch lmao good stuff
Lol
Song at 1:45 ?
“Developing the new habit” thank you! Something I tell people all the time. Battery technology is getting better every year
Hey man I love your videos, I’m only 19 and I’ve been working a landscape job since I was 15 I seen some of your videos and I went out and got some lawns and started doing side jobs. Just completed my first landscape job took me 17 hours and I made $600 profit, same amount I make on an 80 hour check at my normal jo, best part the neighbors loved it and want me to do their yard as well. Your videos put a spark in me and now I’m addicted to the grind!
Bro good job I'd say if ur working 80hrs and only taking home 600 you need to look for other employment! At least tell them you need 20 an hr or something that just doesn't seem like enough! Keep working hard you will get there
@@dylsky100 lol
I cant find any demo vids matching my needs. Got bigger leaves and seeds from talisay tree, and if I dont clean up within a day, neighbors been driving over it, and some rainshowers during the day. So its a bit different compared to the dried small stuff used in most vids
2:15 I need more of this in my life
Isn't that the 4 stroke model by echo which would not require mixed gas and oil?
which is louder?
Gas for sure
The editing is hilarious bro 😂
I have both. Although comparing my actual 2 is like apples to oranges. The battery one is a homeowner grade ryobi. Just use it to blow off our patio. It is light weight, cheap, quieter and easy for my with to start/use. Also have a ryobi drill and radio Can't say about durability. Only had it for 2 months but no problems so far. Petrol blower is a still bg86. Had it for 3years and no issues. Use it more as i mow 8 lawns as a side gig and also gets used to clean up leaves after hedgetrimming and a few times a year to clean a lot of gum leaves in my own yard from the neighbours gum trees. It is fairly loud, but has a lot longer run time and lots more power. Cost me $370. To get a (same power) battery blower bga 86 would would cost $449 just for the tool no battery or charger. I'm not willing to pay that vs $170 for the ryobi with a charger and battery and other tools.
What model is the Milwakee?
I agree! The turf tracer is a beast of a mower. I just bought a used 2008 60" Turf Tracer, Hydro Driven, with the floating deck, sulky and ECS Handles for $2000. Money very well spent.
what was the difference in noise level? how loud it was and the kind of sound?
Does the echo comes with a vacuum
No
I'm not sure if you'll see this bro but I'm in my second year of my tree service and was wondering if there are any benefits to starting a youtube channel for my business? Will that somehow bring in more clients or will it somehow hinder my business or will it even have any effect on my business at all?
I just picked up the Milwaukee trimmer and blower, I love them and I was sick of breathing in the exhaust all day.
You're right bro. I tried the trimmer before in Chicago Milwaukee event.
That thing was sick bro.
How many yards to they last roughly for you ? Or is it for person property
Pro Mountain Biker Yeah, one gas two stroke blower puts out as much pollution as 50 cars running at once. It’s bad. Then there’s all the debris you’re kicking up and breathing including fungus, mold and fecal matter. No joke.
Do they still work?
This man had my cracking up😂
BRO, you need to do more reviews this one was even better than the Milwaukee hedge trimmer video! Damn this was really entertaining
Lol. Haha.
Great vid bro! whats the artist of this vid (first song) ???
What kind of oil do u use in ur 2 cycle mix?
Also, is this echo blower a new model?
Stihl
Watching them both work, I will concur with your analysis. Nice review!
Love the video and the edit. Brought tears to my eyes 😂 keep up the hood work
I do landscaping, and i've got about 7 commercial grade blowers.6 backpacks, and 1 handheld. I've also got one Electric Kobalt leaf blower. so for work I would never use electric. I've tried various and they just don't have enough power and I know myself... I'd forget to charge one and it would suck.
That said I love my electric blower because If i get back from the dump and have some small debris in my truck bed, I'll grab it because it's lightweight, and I don't have the pump/prime or pull start it.
Electric blowers have a use, but if you are trying to get serious work done you gotta go with gas.
How long does the battery last . That's key to me.
Jonathan Doble 2 9 amp hour batteries is enough to last me just about all day with a trimmer and blower. I love how light they are and te design but I still keep a set of gas powered tools as backup
Jonathan Doble I used an ego electric blower before and it lasts between 15 and 20 minutes but blows good.
I dunno. We got about 20min of use out of it. But the battery was only at 60%
Yeah that is key. I'm getting tennis elbow from pull starting stuff all day. Im thinking of going electric blower like this for blowing clippings etc. Lighter and no pull start big plus for the older guys
The batteries charge really fast so you can easily charge it between a new job site in the car too.
Great video pal thanks for your input
I 100% agree handheld blowers are great for little touchups
Love your vids keith!!! Keep them coming man.
Thanks Chris.
Keith Kalfas np problem
Dude. I dont do landscaping or anything like that but by far .. one of the best review videos I seen in a while. Dope.
the ego 765 is probably the best hand held in terms of power and i had a stihl bg 56 before i got the ego
Best youtube video I've seen this year..
Great video, awesome editing, I really enjoyed watching the video
Ha ya know back 4 yrs ago I would’ve laughed at someone saying batt powered equipment is life but after recently using echos new 56v line of batt powered tools, I’ll admit it, I’ve been convinced. 🔥😎
You are the man. You have taught me alot and it has helped my business grow tremendously. I would like to meet you someday along with Eric. Just live a state below you.
I live in on a city corner with tress everywhere. September and October are hell because opposite and next door have contractors with loud gas blowers who come regularly. I asked 2 of them about getting electric and they looked at me like i was crazy.
Cool effects!!!
Haha thanks
@@keith-kalfas very welcome, you're very colorful.
I have the Ego 530CFM blower. Sure it’s powerful, but here I am on RUclips instead of blowing leaves around because I’m waiting for batteries to charge. VERY frustrating. I get 6-7 minutes on a full charge with the turbo button on. Pisses me off!
I love my battery powered gear from kobalt. 80v pushmower, trimmer, hedge trimmer and leafblower. use them on all my properties. guys laugh at me all the time as i laugh all the way to the bank. good video!
Do the neighbors ever say anything regarding your antics? Loved it.
They LOVE IT!!
LOLOLLL
Yeah man. So more product reviews. I really like them
Haha. Thanks man
Tough guy🧡🧡 i think im in love🤓
Dope video thanks for sharing!!
Fun review and great that you're keeping an open, objective mind.
Always!
Very entertaining
Dewued! Eighter of those are good, well I rather go with the Milwaukee works good for blowing out the garage and won't leave it like your in the California smog. It also works great in the summer when there is light clippings on the walkways and patio. Great video seemed fun.
I can see myself throwing the Milwaukee out the window after about 6 months.. It might be good for blowing off deck or patio before a bbq or party, but not everyday use
Keith the way you pumped that priming nipple, that was dope
I think what a lot of people don’t think about is gas will always be superior to electric, unless they make electric waterproof, I know I couldn’t sit in my truck waiting 2 hours for the rain to stop to use the equipment to get the job done, id rather use electric for the weight ect, I will probably invest in the Milwaukee line of outdoor tools, but would have to keep the gas with me just in case
When it comes to electric - ego ( in my opinion) has the best. I have used the ego hedge trimmer , blower and chainsaw and cannot complain. The chainsaw and trimmer have paid for themselves ten fold. I’ve tried other electric products but always come back to ego. Also always remember to bring your charger and have one battery always charging, waiting to be swapped.
If neck and neck then clearly Battery wins hands down. Just bought a petrol. I live in Africa so that is what they use. Battery options here are really toys.
Dude you are a nut. The cone hat should have had the neighbors calling the the looney bin to come pick up one of their escapees. Keep them coming.
Love the videos. What's are the songs called?
I dunno. Tooby or something. I pay for an Epidemic Music subscription recommended by Peter McKinnon.
Da Tooby - Down For The Long Run [2000s Hip Hop]
great job bud. You need to have your own netflix weekly show. you rock. this is entertainment
Haha. A dream come true right
Nice review have a Stihl BR 700 the blast is like the jet bikes on water... and a small blower for fast jobs to....I haven't seen the Milwaukee's here in Ireland for sale but the echo are knocking around...I like the echo but I like the idea of the Milwaukee I look lighter
Yea dude you gotta try it.
Its very powerful for how light weight it is.
Thanks man
Why do they make the gas operated left handed, dewalt makes a 40v and 60v handheld similar to the gas but right handed and more powerful than the gas
I thumbed up when i heard the metal 🤘🏻
You clearly had a lot of fun making the video (little heavy on the edits and messing around parts) but its good to hear a "professional's" opinion on the battery unit. The refueling time on the echo is... what 45 sec and you already got premix for the trimmer right? But like you said for fast, quick and lighter jobs the cordless has its place... just not in my garage.
I usually use pidgey to do gust
Yeah they got that good shit up in Michigan .lol good vid
The part where you put the battery in the Milwaukee and pulled the invisible pull start brought tears to my eyes...😭
Haha why's that?
I can hear it now. Who the fuck did the neighbors hire this time? Lmao! Awesome vid!
Nice vid man I did have a look at some of the Stihl battery blowers at my dealer last time I was there and they work pretty nice for small stuff. I have a BG56 and BR700 as my main 2 blowers that I keep on my trailer at all times but I reckon one of them battery ones would do the job of the 56 as well. Price on them is pretty damn good too I must say.
Great comparison. Hey, what kind of oil do you put in your fuel?
Do a review on the Milwaukee string trimmer, I have it and the blower and I love them. But would like to get your take on trimmer.
You bought those pants from Wal-Mart huh? My
Favourite channel. Love you Keith!
Wal-Mart online haha
james freeman what pants? I don’t see any..
your videos are awesome!
Ego is fantastic. Long reach and extension. Blower, mower, strimmer. Fast charger x2
5:43 You don't have any grass? Call Pedro
Ego electric back pack blower is the way to go or the sthl with the giant battier charger is awsome too I've seen there just as powerful as gas
Just my opinion but the Husqvarna 525BX is the best hand held blower on the market!
Kieth you the man
One of the offensive features of leaf blowers is the noise. From the video it sounds like both machines noise output is about the same. Can you comment on that?
Also, I note that there are no fumes or bad smells with electric leaf blowers so that should add positive weight to the electric operated leaf blowers.
Some good back ground music
clean edits !
Thanks Garcia
epic intro bro
Thanks man.
YOUR FUNNY BRO COOL DUDE MAN
nice review doowwgg!!! I'd say the fuel all day only because it's better for the environment brotha and won't get a headache from breathing exhaust fumes in all day lmao
Talk about exhaust fumes. Hedge trimmers are the worst.
Keith Kalfas no doubt bro on a not so windy day it can get bad out there brotha!!😂😂💪💪💪
Like cars eventuality most things will be electric some day... especially with battery tech getting better by the year
“Illi-noise” 😂
Man that video is dope! We gonna work wit da Milwaukee!🤘🔥🔥
Plus little less noisy. How much $$$.
I dunno at least $400. Bit you're right. Its way more quiet.
Keith!!!!! What is the name of that rock song in the beginning?? I totally need it for my workout playlist!
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I can tell you put in a lot of time editing this video. I remember when I commented on this last, you said you wish every video had that good of video editing. Well, I will say that this video has almost as good of editing as the other one your friend took!
Your videos are solid bro and I've been following you for years. As a 21 year old now, you are so inspiring. Thank you for all you do bro!!!!!!!!!!!
Its from Epidemic Music .com
2:12 add white doves and call John Woo to direct
Yes yes. Hahaha
HEY YOU GOT FREE
You think that Echo is powerful? Try the Ryobi Gas Jet Fan Blower. That thing is really a beast. Also check out the Ego 56 volt electric battery blower.
Ryobi? hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idea for a video: Job hazards. Like the customers who deliberately don’t tell you about their poison ivy. I know, get my own channel, blah blah blah.
eh....awesome as usual
This shit is hilarious I enjoy your sense of humor
Lol thanks.
You slap a bigger 12 ah battery on the Milwaukee it would probably help a little bit
Yeah, I knew the echo would be better, recently I just tried the handheld makita blower 36 Volt, that takes two 18 Volt batteries. From fully charged to 2 dead batteries in less than 20 minutes, electric blowers are nice for light work jobs. Gas powered blowers are definitely better for me, because it's quicker to refill the gas (4 stroke blower no mixing) than to charge the batteries for hours.
Yeah I mean if you only needed to use your leaf blower 10 minutes once a week sure get a battery powered one but if you need to use it for 30 minutes to an hour you’re going to hate your life with batteries, heaven for bid you’re actually a professional and you would never trust batteries in my opinion unless he had 20 of them in the truck
HAHAA nice review! I wonder how the long life of battery holds up. Habit of charging would definitely be the biggest issue. I have the echo. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Can you do a comparison between the new platinum Ferrari and the new platinum Lamborghini next
I Wish man. I would love to be a multi-millionaire.
I love Lamborghinis.
Thanks Kyle
Milwaukee makes a charger, so you can charge it in your truck like anything else
Milwaukee
Yea. I like the Milwaukee too.
Because its futuristic.
Keith how do you go into big commercial leads?
HAHAHA very funny, but still profesional review! I hope you can hear me laughing all the way from the Netherlands.
I can hear youuuuuuuu!!!! Hahaha
Redo the test against the new king of electric lawn tools, the Ego 765 cfm blower. You may find a significant difference. The Milwaukee is more toy level.
I was laughing so much I started crying 😂
Ego power plus smokes that.
The echo blows a wider margin. The Milwaukee blows narrower but a little farther. The Milwaukee is more accurate. Perfect for flower beds and mulch areas clean up
Yes exactly haha
frankly the Fuel looked pretty lame in comparison to the echo. I'd say the Echo puts out almost twice the juice.
Another factor is the cost, the electric is 100 bucks more with a battery and charger