How to RE-crown an Airgun barrel

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @vinnyvice6695
    @vinnyvice6695 4 года назад +8

    You would make an excellent shop teacher. Itailians are known for their precision work.

  • @wickedreelz5028
    @wickedreelz5028 5 лет назад +12

    I use a carbide crown cutting tool for firearms, cost 150 bucks and cuts machine quality 11 degree target crowns. When I use the brass screw method I use diamond paste as it cuts ultra clean crowns. Then I polish with a little 000 steel wool and bingo you have a perfect crown. Anyone that thinks the brass screw method doesn't cut perfect crowns is flat wrong. Machine cut crowns come out exactly the same as a properly down brass screw crown. I prefer the carbide crown cutter as it takes about two minutes from start to finish to have a flawless 11 degree crown. I have brass screw method crowns on sub half minute bench guns (powder burners) when i had tiny nicks in the crown and the barrel was still printing average 5 shot groups in the 3/8th inch range (that was a custom .22-250 with a 600 round old Hart barrel. And didn't have time to send the barrel off for recrowning so I did it with the brass screw. After that I had no doubt that it cuts 99.9% the quality of crown as a lathe cut crown) the soft steel on airgun barrels the brass screw method is so easy and produces flawless crowning jobs. If you have a lot of airguns and want them to have 11 degree target type crowns the 150 bucks for the crown cutter is a worthy investment, 2 minutes and you have a lathe quality crown and anyone can do it as it's pretty much fool proof.
    If you follow what was stated in this video the brass screw method will give you a perfect crown with a little more work. I suggest Diamond paste tho as it cuts a more polished crown and does so faster and always finish it with a piece of 000 or 0000 steel wool to get a bright perfectly smooth crown. It is ultra important to follow the varying circles always keeping the drill moving in varying size circles or you will cause exactly what he said and it will happen QUICKLY.

    • @mikeyang8040
      @mikeyang8040 3 года назад +1

      Can you provide the link to the carbide crown cutting tool for firearms?

    • @JacobBerry-lo3bm
      @JacobBerry-lo3bm 8 месяцев назад +2

      Good info in that comment! Thanks

  • @HajimotoProductions
    @HajimotoProductions 5 лет назад +23

    The key is being concentric and varying the grind angles helps achieve that. For the non lathe guy this is a method that has been around forever. Get ready for the machinist troll comments. Thanks for sharing.

    • @wileydr
      @wileydr 5 лет назад

      Hajimoto Productions you should have seen my first attempt at it. 🤪

    • @JETHO321
      @JETHO321 2 года назад +3

      Probably because a lathe and indicating the bore concentric is the proper way to do it. Signed, professional gunsmith.

  • @jonhermann8239
    @jonhermann8239 5 лет назад +3

    Hey, guess what? I’ve had a Hatsan bullboss that has shot like crap since they day I bought it I was just about ready to buy a new barrel for it and then I saw your video. Well I went out and bought some brass screws and some grinding compound, and I’ll be damned, that thing is shooting pretty descent groups now. Thanks for your great videos. I can tell you put your heart into these videos because it really shows. Keep up the good work.

  • @jacklawson2009
    @jacklawson2009 4 года назад +5

    Thanks to this video I have improved my Gauntlet accuracy tremendously. If you want to make a slug barrel cut one inch off your barrel(remove choke) then follow these instructions for doing a new crown Job. Thanks VELOCITY!!

  • @mikeyang8040
    @mikeyang8040 3 года назад +22

    Nice video. But it would be helpful to see the shot groupings or accuracy test before and after the crowning of barrel.

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  • @rehmanhussain4690
    @rehmanhussain4690 5 лет назад +4

    I've just started watching your videos, your videos are very well made and you are very informative. Thank you.

  • @bctpcp9546
    @bctpcp9546 9 месяцев назад +2

    That was a pretty damn good job all by hand LOL. Is there a video of the end result, ie the improvement of the shot groupings?

  • @frankvazquez4050
    @frankvazquez4050 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome project. This is something that one can do easily with minimal tools and always be able to fix or improve a beaten up barrel.

  • @rick31869
    @rick31869 5 лет назад +6

    i have done this to all my air rifles , except my nova freedom because accuracy is awesome, and air pistols ,and for some strange reason i do the chamber end too ,makes them feed better and smoothly !
    great how to vid bro !

  • @shooterxchannel8102
    @shooterxchannel8102 4 года назад +2

    Wow.
    The re-crowed looking really good. 👍

  • @windblown466
    @windblown466 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome video. I would love to have seen more shots of the screw . To see how it fits the barrel and how it wears throughout the process

  • @Gunner-ll1zd
    @Gunner-ll1zd 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for showing us the diy way to improve our guns

  • @wileydr
    @wileydr 5 лет назад +5

    Great vid, I’ve had to do this a few times myself. I hope it helps your accuracy, I’m sure it doesn’t hurt it.

  • @JC-lf8pr
    @JC-lf8pr Год назад

    Thank you brother, excellent how to video. I have a Marauder that before I cleaned it shot consistent 1/2 inch groups or better. I cleaned and shot 75 pellets through it and it keeps grouping wildly. 2 inch all over the place. I will try reforming the crown before I order a new barrel. I'm crossing my fingers.

  • @zaxis1812
    @zaxis1812 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the lesson sir, its work on my local barrel. Greetings from Indonesia

  • @franciscopeixoto6609
    @franciscopeixoto6609 4 года назад +3

    Great work and very informative. Salut from France

  • @22lr_plinking
    @22lr_plinking 5 лет назад +4

    Great video thanks for that. Also great to see ya back to videos again. Been a long time!! Thanks

  • @rickoshea8138
    @rickoshea8138 3 года назад +3

    You should run the drill, alternating in both directions to minimize any burr on the sides of the lands. Contact force should be just enough to stabilize the stone or screw head, so they don't skate off, or chatter.

  • @luisarturomojica2865
    @luisarturomojica2865 5 лет назад +4

    Great video! As well as informative, will do the same on my nova vista! I also have the Ryobi drill 😅 Ryobi brothers unite!! Took my nova vista out for some ground squirrel erradication after I tuned it up following your methods......that thing hits like I mule, but as I watched a clip in slow motion, I heard the brrrrrrraaaaatttt of the hammer hitting the valve multuple times, that means wasted air.....hopefully someone can make an aftermarket free flight hammer for it.....anyways, best regards and as always great video!

  • @richardcampbell5762
    @richardcampbell5762 5 лет назад +2

    Crown looked great. Can't wait to see the results. From NM happy shooting brother.👍✌🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @daleweller5193
    @daleweller5193 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting. Also you make me feel better because your work bench looks a lot worse than mine.

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  2 года назад

      I know it looks messy but I know where everything is located

  • @Koa2943
    @Koa2943 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome job mr Bianchi !!

  • @elcues
    @elcues 4 года назад +5

    It appears you have done this many times before. I would be shaking in my boots trying to keep centered with equal pressure by hand like this. As always nice vid.

  • @nickolasc4167
    @nickolasc4167 5 лет назад +2

    Well I am stoked to have seen this now! I am an avid tuner/ tinkerer myself and have gone through all my rifles hand polishing and deburring etc, but always was scared to touch the barrels. Now I know the process is not complicated and I can do it myself with the steps outlined I'm going to check all my crowna

  • @phillipmendiola1257
    @phillipmendiola1257 5 лет назад +14

    I had to recrown my KRAL PUNCHER MEGA 25CAL SYNTHETIC when I got it it wasn't acurate at all , the end of barrel and rifling was ruff and flat so I recrowned it my self same way you did , and let me tell you dead accurate 50 to 100 yards quarter size groups .

  • @phillipmendiola1257
    @phillipmendiola1257 5 лет назад +4

    Awsome vidio very good information on recrowning .

  • @paulandrews3785
    @paulandrews3785 3 года назад +1

    Great video on this
    it's better dun buy 🖐️ hand I have dun this with a ball bering with fine sand paper 400 to 1200 took a long time
    11y pistol with fixed stock now it is pellet on pellet at 30 y now 👍 😎 good quality grinding product

  • @airgunspestingch.8426
    @airgunspestingch.8426 5 лет назад +4

    Have you pushed a pellet down the barrel to feel the the pellet for tightness or looseness? Looking at the pellet skirt will give you a good indication how lands on the skirt are with a close inspection😎 now for range testing 😎👍🏾
    Ken Brown

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  5 лет назад +2

      yes, most pellets are tight but the JSB seem to get the least damage

    • @peteralexben
      @peteralexben 5 лет назад

      a flat rod thight fit inside the barrel can show you if the crown is not ecxact

  • @ral446
    @ral446 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for showing us all how to do this. I have been wondering how this is done when you don't have the money for all the machinery.

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 3 года назад +3

    Admittedly, I am new to delving deeper into the airgun mechanisms but I am familiar with some of the issues with the powder world. They too place great emphasis on crowning a barrel but this is where the similarities seem to end. Great emphasis is placed on the chamber. How much the bullet has to jump before contacting the Lands is tightly controlled. I do not see much emphasis in PCP chambers or how much the pellet or slug is or is nor in contact with the rifling of the barrel. The logical answer would be that it makes little difference in accuracy in the airgun world. It sure seems like all those 90 bends must cause great turbulence behind the push of the pellet. I can see designers trying to keep the compressed gas’s travel short before it begins its pushing duties.I see diagrams of the mechanisms and valves but none so far dealing with how the pellets are held. Just curious.

  • @brianblomquist836
    @brianblomquist836 5 лет назад +2

    Nicely done!

  • @janner2121
    @janner2121 4 года назад +2

    Another , better way to keep the crown central is as follows - Find an old exhaust or inlet valve from an engine that the stem fits the barrel bore snugly, oil the stem and insert into the barrel with valve fine grinding past , then lap the valve in the usual lapping method, result is 100% centred chamfered crown.

    • @ManiacInTheShed
      @ManiacInTheShed 3 года назад +2

      Not a good idea because you will damaged the rufeling

    • @janner2121
      @janner2121 3 года назад +1

      @@ManiacInTheShed The Rufeling ? !! Well , I have done several that way, and never damaged the Rufeling yet !

  • @lenweber7142
    @lenweber7142 5 лет назад +2

    Doing that to the back of the barrel can reduce some pellet picky issues too!! :-) :-) only a smooth rounded funnel shape :-) And lube the pellets a tiny bit

    • @wickedreelz5028
      @wickedreelz5028 5 лет назад +3

      Giving a super smooth leade is a smart idea and should be done to all barrels. I did a leade smooth and polish on all my guns. Even my FX Smooth twist and Smooth twist X barrels benefited from a nice leade job. Run a few pellets down even a match grade barrel and with a magnifying lens look for scuffing and you will almost always see it polish the leade and repeat and you will see the scuffing go away and that absolutely tightens groups at longer ranges and will make your gun happier with more pellet choices.

    • @Oregon-airguns
      @Oregon-airguns 5 лет назад +2

      Wicked Reelz what is leade?

    • @lenweber7142
      @lenweber7142 5 лет назад +3

      @@Oregon-airguns :-) referring to the way the pellet is guided into the chamber, there's also a good pellet scratching ridge inside the air port inside the barrel :-) use a tiny dremel diamond ball with polish on it for that

  • @robertomartinez1741
    @robertomartinez1741 3 года назад +1

    Wow....thanks for this information man!

  • @patrickrenschler
    @patrickrenschler 2 года назад

    thanks for sharing, how important is it that the screw is brass? I have some zinc plated #8 screws on hand

  • @brianreiss6036
    @brianreiss6036 4 года назад +2

    I was wondering about the new Avenger not having any crown. Everybody says accuracy is excellent even though it's just sawed off on the end. I'm getting ready to order one in 22 caliber and I'll probably go ahead and do that after I get some testing initially.

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  4 года назад +2

      Yes, both the avenger and the liberty seem t share the same barrel. You may not need to to crown it if you are happy with the accuracy. Once I crowned my liberty I was able to achieve sub MOA at 100 yards.

    • @brianreiss6036
      @brianreiss6036 4 года назад +1

      @@AirVelocitySport Did you ever get a regulator on the mega? I got a box full of springs that I have experimented with and made them too short. That way I don't waste any air and it have a couple of sets that I double the springs together and get about 80 shots with Hades. Very effective around the farm without causing any damage. I also keep the power adjuster less than half. I'll switch to the high-power springs when I get ready to test your slugs but the monsoons are horrendous ☹️

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  4 года назад +1

      No, I got rid of the mega because of the small air tube and low pressure. I really like Airgun with at least a 250 bar fill.

    • @brianreiss6036
      @brianreiss6036 4 года назад +1

      @@AirVelocitySport I blew the burst disk the first day I had the gun so I replaced it with one from the Yong Heng compressor╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭

  • @aubreylukebird7403
    @aubreylukebird7403 4 года назад +1

    Very well put ...thank you

  • @bruckusmc126
    @bruckusmc126 4 года назад +2

    Great video, thank you very much.

  • @CubGrylls
    @CubGrylls 4 года назад +1

    If the screw/grinding is true it makes sense to me that direct vertical pressure makes more sense for an even crown....

  • @ARIFINLATHE
    @ARIFINLATHE 3 года назад +1

    Very nice..friend....

  • @nelsonm5032
    @nelsonm5032 Год назад

    where did you get those round ball dremmel bits? i have looked high and low...

  • @cattlemanguns7622
    @cattlemanguns7622 3 года назад +1

    Thank you great content!

  • @alexbarredo1399
    @alexbarredo1399 5 лет назад +3

    Nice, i did same thing in my pcp,😊😊😊😊😊😊 can' wait for the test☺☺☺

    • @tatarugabriel4328
      @tatarugabriel4328 5 лет назад +1

      So you did it? How the thing is working out for you?

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv 3 года назад +1

    What size is the stone ball bit for the Dremel? As in what width is it? I would like to crown my Avenger barrel because I can see some clipping on it from the pellet. I already Harmonically balanced the barrel with an O-ring which helped but I know it's clipping sometimes because of no crown. Do you recommend using the stone bit if so would you know the side? Would a countersink bit be too aggressive?
    Tanks in advance sir. You've been a heap of help with my Crossman's and Avenger.

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  3 года назад +1

      The stone Dremel bit is 1/2". The most important thing is that the re-crowning be concentric. The best way is to use a lathe to be 100% sure. The technic used in my video has worked well for me. I would not use anything too aggressive because it could ruin you barrel muzzle. If you ruin the muzzle end you can always go to a person with a lathe and cut an inch off and recown the muzzle. The only bad part to cutting the last inch is loading the choke which would make it a consistent groove diameter which some say is better for slugs.

    • @schumbo8324
      @schumbo8324 8 месяцев назад

      @@AirVelocitySport by concentric do you mean the description of movement you make between 3:20 to 4:00 minutes?

  • @copyandpaste6485
    @copyandpaste6485 2 года назад +1

    Hows the accuracy?

  • @Alloutairguns
    @Alloutairguns 4 месяца назад

    But how would you do the brass screw part on a 58 cal barrel

  • @kevintravis2154
    @kevintravis2154 3 года назад

    Glad it works for you. Not a good plan though. Find someone with a lathe.

  • @65LB
    @65LB 5 лет назад +2

    The Depot has little use for it, but check with local auto parts stores

  • @МихаилСолдатов-я3д

    Excellent!!! 😊👍

  • @lenweber7142
    @lenweber7142 5 лет назад +3

    You've been gone tinkering lol :-)

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  5 лет назад +2

      I will be posting a video on how to make a thumb hole stock next. It came real nice for the ATI Nova liberty.

    • @lenweber7142
      @lenweber7142 5 лет назад

      @@AirVelocitySport who did you go threw to get that gun? I'm looking for a second .22 , I have the new brocock sniper hr , it took some tinkering too :-)

  • @Nerino666
    @Nerino666 5 лет назад +1

    where can I find rifling button (to restaure rifling/ damaging-repair) for n airgun .177...?
    and the pushrods...?

  • @philiplabrie3822
    @philiplabrie3822 4 года назад +1

    Will this help with a Springer

  • @uzumlubay
    @uzumlubay 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for another excellent video on how to improve a rifle with simple tools.
    Would fitting an external moderator/silencer also resolve this problem as this would dissipate the airflow as the pellet leaves the barrel???

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  5 лет назад

      I'm not sure that a moderator would make a difference in accuracy. Once the pellet leaves the barrel and crown I believe any deviation caused by the crown would probably not be corrected be a moderator. Just my opinion.

  • @Igotknobblies
    @Igotknobblies 4 года назад +2

    The only way to do this is in a lathe using a skiving tool. That is, the actual act of cutting is from the bore outwards using the sharpest possible tool. This gives the least possibility of kicking up a burr. The barrel needs to be concentric with the bore of the lathe and the cut at 90° with the bore, recessed in the end of the barrel. Hand cut with a Dremel? I think not!

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  4 года назад +2

      Yes, I would agree. However, This exact barrel now shot 10 shoot sub MOA groups at 100 yards consistently. I have it on film on two other videos on this channel. I would say my re crowning definitely helped.

  • @armstronggeorge1533
    @armstronggeorge1533 4 года назад

    How would you do the loading end of the barrel I have a Diana Chaser that is at time very difficult to load the 22 pellets ?

  • @LondonMus
    @LondonMus 3 года назад

    Wondering if I made my rifle have a crowned barrel with a suppressor added on-top of that would it still increase the accuracy? Seeing as it’s not firing out the end of the barrel with the added suppressor.

    • @airenthusiast2000
      @airenthusiast2000 3 года назад

      The pellet is not leaving the end of the suppressor?

  • @hoikhongbietmoi
    @hoikhongbietmoi 4 года назад +1

    hi guy! how many is the best degree for this airgun crown barrel?

  • @peteralexben
    @peteralexben 5 лет назад +2

    would it not better to use a tool made for it ,a Triebel crowning tool for ecxample. the german guntool firm makes the crowning tool with bushing that will fit the inside of the barrel.specify caliber ,
    if a gun has high pressure at the end of the barrel (like firearms), the high pressure gas will go around the base of the bullet
    ,if the crown is not even or out of angle the pressure will push the pullet to one side, in a airgun a burr is more bad then a out of angle crown.
    also if the base of a bullet is out of angle or a chip out ,it as bad as if the muzzelcrown is incorrect

  • @saxpride
    @saxpride 5 лет назад

    Great video! Can we get a link to the dremel tool and the pink ball and the valve polishing compound?

  • @jay1486you
    @jay1486you 5 лет назад +1

    Another thought would be to get a 45 degree countersink and make sure it’s very sharp and take a very small bite per turn. Single flute probably wouldn’t be the best if you’re doing it by hand.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 4 года назад +2

    Thank you

  • @abunatkat
    @abunatkat 5 лет назад +2

    Instead of amazon go to your local auto parts store for the Permatex.

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  5 лет назад +1

      Every time I go out looking for something I need for my tinkering projects I'm usually at a loss. They usually do not have what I need. I just find it so much easier to order it online and wait a day. No more driving wasting time, gas and possible moving violation ticket for speeding.

    • @abunatkat
      @abunatkat 5 лет назад +1

      @@AirVelocitySport You're pretty good at what you do that's why we watch. Some of us like to do things right now so an auto part store would be the best choice.

  • @chipmunkchatterfarmstead8712
    @chipmunkchatterfarmstead8712 5 лет назад

    What is the outer diameter length and width of the barrel?

  • @rickoshea8138
    @rickoshea8138 3 года назад

    Auto parts stores will have valve grinding compound. Home Depot won't...

  • @rolandoberja8521
    @rolandoberja8521 3 года назад

    how can i get 3 of your barrel

  • @norcalsrt1214
    @norcalsrt1214 5 лет назад +2

    Man I can't get past the huge mess u work in that would drive me insain

    • @Oregon-airguns
      @Oregon-airguns 5 лет назад +1

      Erick Varela LMFAO 😂😂😂 it’s amazing it doesn’t bother him.. I wish I was more like him!!! I always feel the need to spend 2hrs making my shop look just perfect and 100% in order before I can start a new project! Haha watching this makes me cringe!! But also jealous at the same time! This guy accomplishes way more then me just for that reason I bet!

    • @tatarugabriel4328
      @tatarugabriel4328 5 лет назад +2

      @@Oregon-airguns I used to do so but after 20 minutes its mess again, so I just let that ride 😂

  • @timsmith9169
    @timsmith9169 3 года назад

    30 degree crown?

  • @GeezerGramps
    @GeezerGramps 6 месяцев назад

    More commercials than cable tv

  • @rolandcortes7454
    @rolandcortes7454 2 года назад +1

    UR VERY2 RIGHT. THANK U AND WE WILL COPY.

  • @tesoyalvarez2584
    @tesoyalvarez2584 3 года назад

    howmochs yor barrel sir w silencer

  • @tomlodge1256
    @tomlodge1256 4 года назад +1

    Not a flat head screw... :D

  • @kmom777
    @kmom777 Год назад

    Can you add Bulgarian to the subtitles

  • @airgunner1697
    @airgunner1697 3 года назад

    without axial clipping of the barrel end on a lathe, such coronation sucks

  • @andersonwitherell5104
    @andersonwitherell5104 5 лет назад +1

    Omg Organize that bench! 😣

  • @ShinwariHunter
    @ShinwariHunter 4 года назад

    Can we use toothpaste?

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  4 года назад +2

      not sure that there is enough grit in toothpaste but I have heard of people using it. I would worry about my teeth if there is that much grit in tooth paste. LOL

    • @ShinwariHunter
      @ShinwariHunter 4 года назад

      Lol. okay!

  • @laaphyama007koofee7
    @laaphyama007koofee7 4 года назад

    why you need a crown ?

    • @AirVelocitySport
      @AirVelocitySport  4 года назад

      It's the last point at which your slug/pellet touches the barrel. Any imperfection with affect performance

  • @jjfoodandtravel4745
    @jjfoodandtravel4745 2 года назад

    You don't know how to drill the 24 inch hole barrel?

  • @romarioferreira1283
    @romarioferreira1283 Месяц назад

    Eu queria fazer isso no meu cano

  • @stemcleeds
    @stemcleeds 2 года назад

    Tidy your bench Bro

  • @imrankabir1917
    @imrankabir1917 3 года назад

    dt