Bond Arms Rough n Rowdy
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- What's a good Backup Plan? Try the Bond Arms "Rough and Rowdy! This little derringer is chambered in .45 Colt and .410 shotgun and it's a good choice as a backup. As a pocket or boot gun this could be just whats needed to get you out of a sticky situation if your primary malfunctions.
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I've got an American Derringer in .410/45C and it's a beast. Only shot it once....that was enough. I know what it can do and how close I need to get to the bad guy! Enjoy yours!!
It was actually pretty fun with the 200 gr cowboy loads in it! Any idea the year of your American Derringer?
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How close HE needs to get to YOU.
From a guy has always been able to hear my neighbors breathe I gotta say that is a beautiful property
I once lived in a neighborhood that had houses so close together, you could almost knock on the neighbors window. That was way too close for me. I love living in the country. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
I baught mine in 9mm. I removed the trigger guard.
I keep it in my tacklebox Loaded with cci shotshells. But have a couple jhp just incase because I only fish at night and off the banks. A couple weeks ago I was fishing for flathead catfish and I had to go behind a tree to do my business when a huge full grown cottonmouth was rolled up at full display. I pulled out my darenger with cci shotshells and put both barrels down Its throat LOL. Anyway thanks for sharing there Awsome little guns.
Not a bad idea at all. Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
Thanks, I recently bought one and am glad to see one fired before I take mine out. Gotta be honest, I thought 410 rounds would hit really hard. This will definitely be my backup or secondary if possible. Am planning on a 9mm barrel as well.
Thanks for the video!
I hope you enjoy yours. Thanks for watching!
The line of Bond Derringers there is almost any caliber. Mine is a snake, 1 set .22 mag barrels, 1 .45 colt/410 barrel set. The .45 colt is my chosen caliber. The rear sight was deepened and set for 10 yards. Gun was held in a modified Ransom rest. Very accurate. And set for my pet load.
My Bond is not a fan of 255gr flatnosed HP. Ball or flatnosed in the 200gr is its preferred ammo. The .22 mag actually works well with the modified rear sight. Good enough to get a bunny for lunch. Hard to hit with the short sight radius at 60ft but easy at 25ft. Great guns. Over built, excellent steels in manufacturing, reliable and a big punch if you need it.
I've noticed that when you figure out the sights it doesn't do too bad, even with only 1/2" of rifling! I definitely agree they are well built! Thanks for watching!
Awesome demo! Yes the 410 bruised my knuckle as well! I opted not to try the 45's. Now I will go back and try. Also looking for extended grips. Large hands and hard to hold. And yes seems like you have to tilt down to hit the target. Thanks again for the review! Well done!
Awesome! Thank you! I think the .45s are the most fun.
I hold mine with both hands, one pulls the trigger and the other holds the grip. Feels very comfortable and natural by this method.
I'll have to try that sometime.
I agree. Two hand hold only because how I grip the gun. I have several barrels. Only shot the 45 acp in the backup barrel. Going to try the 38/357 in 3” and 10mm in 3.5”
Good review. I have heard these things are well made, but snappy and uncomfortable to shoot. This video gives me more information if I decide to get one of these in the future.
I wouldn't recommend it for a full day of range fun but backup would be cool. Thanks for watching!
I saw one in the pawn shop yesterday, priced at $299. Almost bought it, glad I didn't now! It is not that the gun is bad, it is just very strange!! For another $200 I can get something really nice.
Huge selection available at Victory Arms and Munitions, Mocksville NC
Good to know, at least for the NC residents anyway. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks! Glad to be back!
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.410 slug might be a better choice, rather than the hyper defensive load.
I could see that.
Hickok 45 hit his 80yard gong with the 45 caliber. Took a few shots to figure out the hold. But he did it. Lower barrel is set with the sights. Top barrel will shoot high.
Being able to see where the missed shots hit, really helps you adjust the hold. Thanks for watching!
I finally found Some 45 Colt for being mine .it was like 56 bucks for a box .the 410 stings to shoot but the 45 feels ok I'm guessing the 410 buck shoot would be more powerful neither seemed very accurate at 10 or even 7 yds but it is a belly gun ..
The .45Colt rounds are fun, the 410s, not as much. The heavier the projectile, the heavier the recoil. Definitely for up close and personal!
Enjoyed your review. I just picked up a Bond Rowdy. Haven't made it to the range yet but looking forward to doing so.
They're pretty fun and a good backup choice too. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Yep, I'm carrying my 1911A1 today in 45 ACP. Nice having 45 ACP there with the 45 Colt.
@@Me2Lancer is there really anything cooler than a 1911? Nah, they are sweet!
I have an interest on the new lite weight 9 mm. I have not seen any reviews on it yet so far. I hope is good.
Now you're going to make me look for one! Lol. Thanks for watching!
These are NOT Lite weight. They are small.
Good video!!! Do have a a BOND Arms Rough n' Rowdy on order here, and having an affordable b/u pistol is nice as these days / 'daze' when things are getting more expensive to get. Look forward to trying out the 4 different cartridges that'll fire in this derringer: .410 bore 2-3/4" shot-shell, .45 Colt, .45 Schofield & .45 Cowboy Special.
They're both fun and good for a backup. Thanks for watching!
For my needs prob gonna pick one of these up. Thank you
They are fun! Thanks for watching!
I love mine! Fun as hell to shoot! Although I would not use it for a primary SD gun. If you have a 38/357 Barr and you want to shoot full house magnum rounds, I suggest smacking your hand with a hammer a few times! To prepare your hand for what’s to come..
Lol, it's not that rough! Close maybe! I also wouldn't use it for a primary but maybe something to slip in a boot or an ankle holster. Thanks for watching!
I bought mine new. I don't remember it having an anti corrosion piece. I've used Horniday critical self defense cartridges and federal .45 Lc hollow points. What I like is most of the force comes back into your Palm. It's not bad at all and my hand us small. It has no.mote trigger pull than my husbsnd's full size .45 lc. It doesn't hurt my hand ,(small hand. My 6'7 husband's large hand) had no problems. If you live in the woods its a nice friend to bring along.
They are definitely handy little firearms. Thanks for watching!
If your hubby is 6'7", he must have a large Johnson! LOL
Really ?
Rough N Rowdy 45/410 $299
Rough N Roudy 9mm $269 at my local dealer when I bought the 45/410 earlier this week.
Hand cannon built like a tank.
There are several safety mechanisms besides the slide button safety. One where the hammer does not rest on the round, and won't go near it unless the trigger is firmly pulled with the hammer pulled. So if you drop it on accident, it won't result in accidental discharge. A+ work from the Bond family and factory.
They're not bad little derringers at all, very well built! Thank you for watching!
Got mine in 9mm put extended wood grip from Altamont grips 👍🏻
That extended wood grip would definitely help with holding onto it. Thanks for watching.
They dont make them in .22 but you can buy 410ga to .22lr or .22whmr adaptors and through those in and they work just fine.
The do make them in .22 now! I just got an email about a week ago and recently checked on their website. It looks a little weird with those tiny little holes in that thick barrel, but they started making them. I believe they're only available in the "rough" finish though. Thanks for watching!
I would rather have the model you got. Maybe in a different caliber. Can definitely save on ammo being practically a single shot. Looks like a very well built gun. And for me would be better than a 380 as a backup. Stay safe
You can get many different calibers, all the barrels interchange on these things. It's a very solid gun but you only get 2 shots!
The REAL NOISY CRICKET
Lol, yes.
yeah they got a .22lr barrel, I got 12 different barrels for mine, can shoot anything
That's awesome! Maybe I'm not looking at the right place on their website but I couldn't find where they had .22 barrels.
I picked up the 9mm roughneck and bought 3 inch barrels in 38/357 and .45 acp. It’s a great house gun.
Get the Rosewood grips, nuff said.👍
The higher end models come with the rosewood grips. The Rough and Rowdy comes with the rubber ones. The rosewood ones sure look a lot better. Thanks for watching!
Bond sights the lower barrel so it hits more to aim and the upper barrel goes higher.
They should make a side by side! Lol. Thanks for watching!
Personally I have the Rough & Rowdy 45/410 and it’s a handful with 410 defense loads . To be honest they are not fun to shoot , the concussion is nearly as bad as the recoil but the 45 colt are pleasant .
I agree. They offer one in a single shot 45-70 now! I'll bet that thing is fun! (Probably not) hanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
I had two over the years. A 3” Snake Slayer with the old style trigger. That style you could get a competition spring kit in which was great. The issue with it was the hammer was small and hard to get into action. Sold it when I moved to VA. Bought the 4.2” Snake Slayer when I moved to AZ. It had the same trigger as yours. With 3” buckshot load and 45 Colt 225 and 255 loads I would consistently get “flyers” that left the target at 10 yards and more than I was comfortable accounting for at 5 yards. Tried a 4.2” dedicated 45 Colt barrel with some improvement but not enough to make me comfortable over 5 yards. Some decided they need this more than I did and I acquired a Charter Arms Bulldog XL in 45 Colt. It groups well, cost in the neighborhood of the Rowdy, has 5 shots, weighing slightly more than the Rowdy and if I need snake shot it’s available in 45 Colt.
It's definitely a "Up Close" firearm!
The sights are aligned for the bottom barrel. Top barrel will shoot high.
Yep, just a little bit.
Dang you get ahold of a Cool array of fire arms Very interesting at least get to experience these fire arms without costing me anything Thanks for your in depth Reviews Great detail Brother.🇺🇸🍻👍👍
There's plenty more I'd like to get ahold of, but some are just out of my reach! Thank you for watching!
Picked up my rowdy yestetday....but mine came in a cardboatd box idk
I see a lot of the same guns coming in different packages, I wonder why they do that? Cost or availability. Thanks for watching!
I picked my Roughneck 45acp derringer a month ago. It came in a cardboard box too.
That's a 3" barrel, not 2 1/2...
Also you can get the 22lr & 22 mag
Barrels that will interchange...
Yes, I misspoke on the barrel length. Bond Arms does not list a .22 caliber barrel on their website in any length and I have never seen one in a store. I have heard many people say it's available but I haven't found one.
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Saw Bond in a video and he was showing off their bbls.
The shelf was empty for the 22 bbls and he said they were very popular and out of stock at that time.
@@whitefang351 I could understand the popularity, especially with the prices of ammo lately!
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Yeah, ammo prices are absolutely ridiculous. Glad I have a lot...haw!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Go to Bond Arms website. They say that they will make one for you. It may take time.
An awesome fun little gun to shoot I have the snake slayer and just love it as I can see you are digging it thanks for that great test and honest review
Thank you for watching!
I believe this will made a nice snake gun while fishin.. The extended grip for old coots like me with big hands.
I believe you are correct. Thanks for watching!
i had a similarly less finished and cheaper b.a. roughneck in 357/38. it never worked properly precisely because it is less finished. barrel release locked tight after discharge, barrels wouldn’t interchange. after a telephone tussle with a b.a. csr i was finally allowed to return it at my expense for warranty repair. the roughneck came back not 100% cured. b.a. never responded to my followup email and i sold it at a loss. am i a bond arms hater? far from it, i own four with another 5 barrels. the cheaper roughneck and rowdy versions have trashed b.a.’s hard earned reputation. my advice: do as i did, buy used, fully finished original, gen2, b.a. and use extended rubber grips for “4” calibers.
I don't like when people have bad experiences with products but I'm glad you've had positive ones as well. Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
JTNS 28 Your experience matches mine with the roughneck. I’ve owned mine two months and it light strikes randomly. The primer is dented but not enough to go off. They replaced a barrel the first month I owned it. When that barrel did the same, they refuse to examine the gun under warranty. They want me to pay all shipping expense and costs to repair a defect the gun had when it left the factory. If I have to pay, I’m not paying them! It will go to a local smith or stay in its place of shame in a dark drawer. I will not give Bond another dollar
couerleroi1 thank you for sharing your unfortunate story. im sorry for your loss and aggravation. im lucky that my regular b.a. derringers are ok, but like you, b.a. is forever tarnished in my eyes with its self inflicted wound of the half baked rowdy/roughneck.
@@couerleroi1 Replaced the barrel for a light strike fire pin? That's putting the cart ahead of the horse.
Just cause the outside isn’t polished has nothing to do with “all Rowdy and Roughnecks not working”. My Rowdy is perfectly functional and it has the rough outer finish.🤷♂️
I purely practical terms beyond any mallcop stuff, are these really just for putting down livestock. Like if a steer breaks its leg in a cattle chute?
They could work well for that. I would definitely not use it for my primary CCW. It could be a good deterrent though. Thanks for watching!
Handy little pistol. I wonder if one could use a 410 insert for shooting a 22, if one felt a need for it. Thanks
I'm not sure but there are .22 caliber derringers available.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview 22, 30 carbine, 32 short, 32 long, 32 magnum, 327, 38 short, 38 long, 38 special, 357 magnum, 380 acp, 9 mm, 40 s&w, 44-40, 44 special, 45 acp, 45 colt, 45 colt/410, 45 glock, 10 mm barrels. They get 37 barrels based on different barrel length available. 32 short-327 magnum is all the same barrel, same with 38 short-357 magnum.
Its weight is 20 oz
Great video thank you
Thank you for watching!
Thinking about getting one of those, The City were I Lived in there's always People getting Robbed & Mugged every day &
Police couldn't do a damn thing
Not a bad choice for "up close" personal protection.
Get the .410 version. With the right shell you’ll get basically three bullets per round and some extra pain sent in the BG’s direction, that’s the ticket for up close protection. Be sure of your innocent surrounding situations though.
When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
@@linguisticman ain't that the truth!
For up close. Anything past that. its best to retreat, if you can.
I agree!
It’s always best to retreat if possible. This and any other firearm should allow that to take place, if not any hit on the body with a big bore will do in a pinch. With a little practice you can become very proficient with these firearms and I know from my own use with my .38/.357 version. I carry mine as a backup to my 642. My NY reload is two rounds of .357 Mag, and if it comes out it will be used at very close range. Just sayin.
Like your channel just got one in 45 acp
Thanks, I hope you subscribed! .45acp is a great round! Thanks for watching!
Love it . Can’t wait for the next video
Thanks! Same here!
First shot spooked him lol..
Seems like it happens all the time! Thanks for watching!
Talk about a last ditch gun, thx for the vid.
It could be just what you need! Thanks for watching!
Yeah, you might want to throw it in a ditch and get a real gun! LOL
I got that same exact model. It’s cool but man the trigger is rough!
Yeah, I wouldn't want to spend the whole day at the Range with this thing. Thanks for watching!
I read a comment about the trigger pull. The advice was to remove the trigger guard and you can pull more in a downward angle making it seems easier to pull.
Not a range gun shooting .410’s, especially 3 inch. Point and shoo enough to get the feel and put .45 on bottom and 000 buckshot on top, for conceal carry!
I agree. Thanks for watching!
Would have been nice to test the upper and lower barrel separately to know where impact was for each.
I'm pretty sure they are bored parallel so the difference should only be what the centerlines are. There's nothing saying I could have kept it pointed at the exact same spot for two shots either. You'd probably have to secure it in a vice to make sure. Thanks for watching!
Will it shoot 454 or 4570?
Not this particular model, but I believe they make one that will shoot 45-70. Not sure I'd want to shoot 454 from a derringer! Thanks for watching!
Correction: I was NOT able to find one in 45-70.
Yes they do make a .22lr
I have heard people say that but they do not list them on their website or in the paperwork that came with the gun.
Doesn't anyone realize the sight offset of the lower barrel? You can't aim dead on and expect to hit bullseye. One barrel will shoot much different than the other you need to know what barrel is firing first and and know where it hits. Use that one for accurate fire.
I think the intention of this firearm is more "up-close-and-personal" than accuracy. Thanks for watching!
Just bought a Bond Arms Roughneck. Quality of "fit & finish" is extraordinary. Quality U.S. made firearms.
The triggers on Derringers are different than any other handgun. Getting use to how they function takes time, practice & muscle memory. You do NOT simply pull the trigger like other firearms. You must pull the Bangswitch DOWN & BACK
for it to fire.
Thinking about buying one .... do it!
You are correct! Thanks for watching!
They do make a .22.
Why don't they list it? I'd love to pick up a .22mag barrel if they had them listed on their website.
prices on them? i want one
Depending on the model you want, they're about 250 to 1600ish. This particular one was about 280.
they do make a 22
Many people have said that Bond Arms makes .22cal barrels for the derringers, I have looked everywhere to find them with no luck. I just called Bond Arms to verify. Their customer service rep said they discontinued the .22cal barrels about a year ago due to having many misfire issues. So at this time Bond Arms no longer makes .22LR or .22WMR barrels. I wish they did though.
22 rimfire has been discontinued
Yes, the Bond Arms .22lr has been.
Any spring loaded up the sleeve pistol mount is an illegal item in the USA.
Well that just takes all the fun out of it!
Damn that is small for a 45/410....
Yes it is, but you only get two shots!
Trigger is easy roll down not back
Yep, just feels different. Thanks for watching!
Yes they make a 22.
Interesting, I'm not finding one on Bond Arms website. I have seen them from other manufacturers.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview It appears that both the 22 LR and the 22 Magnum are of stock at Bond Arms. There are several review videos on the 22 LR, hopefully Bond Arms don't obsolete this barrel like they done to other barrels in the past like the 44 Magnum.
@@bronzevampire I hope so too, I really like .22 Mag!
@@bronzevampire if you're going for a 22 magnum that's small I'd rather get a north american arms
still a pocket gun no bigger than the derringer really, but 5 shots instead of 2
anways I kind of want a .45 derringer lololol
@@escapetherace1943 the draw to bond arms is the option of different calibers and barrel lengths. .22 with a 2.5 inch barrel is just one of the dozens of combinations you can have with the Bond Arms. They sell 357 magnum guns from a plain to fancy the plain start around $250 with the fancy going for over $1000.
These things are big and bulky like a friggin' TUGBOAT.
Better off with a Sig P365.
They have their own purpose. A Sig would be a better choice for a CCW for sure. Thanks for watching!
Hm order
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No thanks.for the same weight and money I can get a j frame 38 with a lot better accuracy.thanks for the review.
You'll get better capacity with the J-frame too. These are more of a back-up/novelty gun. Thanks for watching!
Where this side of like 1988 can you get a S&W J frame for 259 bucks??
At 14:08 you can see the recoil anticipation
I'm not too sure about 14:08 but definitely at 6:58 !!! Lol, thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview lol. Recoil is your friend. It’s like flinching when you throw a punch. Ride it like a dirt bike bouncing in your hands.
Way more effective at 2 feet away than 600, just sayin...
Lol, absolutely! Thank you for watching!
Oh, come on now, that thing is a sure fire artillery piece! LOL
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Thanks!
That is definitely not a range gun. It's more of a last resort, get the hell away from me type of weapon. I'd practice at 5 yards, tops. It's not designed to hit anything 15 yards away, not with a 2.5 inch barrel.
I agree. If you can hit an object 15yds away, hitting one at 5yds shouldn't be an issue. My typical practice for self defense, is 7yds. Thanks for watching.
You people really need to work on volume!!! A ton of people like me only have a laptop so volume is very important!!! Yes they make .22 for all their derringers!!! Ya the trigger pull is different but not a big problem when you shoot it a bit.
I listen to the videos on a laptop myself @80% volume and my wife tells me to turn it down. The only thing I do when editing is cut down the really loud sounds (gunshots) so that people listening with headphones, don't blow their eardrums out. I have not been able to find anywhere on their website where they offer any barrels in .22lr or .22mag, I have reached out to them requesting more information. I agree, you get used to the trigger but even their instructions say to pull it back and downward. Thanks for watching!
Cute-but no cigar. A nice toy to play with-but for the size and weight-and only 2 shots-it's not viable for anything else.
I'm thinking backup only!
No such thing as a rough and rowdy
www.wideopenspaces.com/check-out-the-new-rough-series-from-bond-arms/
extremely over priced, AFAIK
They are on the higher priced side.
Perhaps you’re equating price with caliber or capacity.
He talks too much
I just can't win. Sometimes I talk too much and sometimes people say I didn't say enough.
Turnips with a little gun
Wait, what?
Turnips with a smart face
I'm not even sure I know what that means.
So for some reason, they have your sights angled to align with the bottom barrel only. That's kind of stupid as fuck. Should just mske it straight so you don't suck and miss every shot. There's kind of really no reason they should be sngled. I want to see this thing rlwith short shells hopefully it can be mkre accurate
You can get used to it. I had a BB gun when I was a kid that had the worst sights ever. If I handed it to you, you probably couldn't hit a 2 liter bottle at 15 feet. I could hit a banana spider at 30 feet with ease. The Bond Arms derringers are meant for up close, last ditch personal defense. Thanks for watching.
Honestly, I don't think it's gonna matter in a real life, point blank scenerio. This gun is made to point and shoot your threat. Possibly a contact shot even. Derringers are a last ditch, very close range firearm. It doesn't even need sights for it's intended use.