Hey guys this is video focused on high M+ decision making and how to improve from yours truly. / andybrew3 / andybrew10 Block/reflect spreadsheet by sense: docs.google.co...
The bleed from gnashers is actually really weird. They will try to cast it once, ever, after they have been in combat for a fixed amount of time (something around 5 seconds or more). However, if their threat target is not in range or if they are stunned at that exact moment, the cast attempt will fail and they will never try to cast the ability again unless they are reset.
Great vid love this type of content. There's loads of guides but seeing it like this is so much better. Please do this more but with all the different tanks.
I can barely do a 9 or 10, I can't imagine what it takes to do 32 or whatever this is. This is insane to me. I love tanking but I'd be lucky to hit 15, I think. Definitely gonna check out more of your videos, this was very informative and brought to light some ideas I'd never thought of.
Outstanding video and I love the fact that you make it clear that everyone makes mistakes. I do have a question or two. 1. How do you track you absorb? 2. Do you video yourself via twitch? Sorry if these seem like newby questions but I’m trying to improve myself.
in the first pull ur kiting the pack alot backwards, what does this excatly do is there a reason for that i myself i play tank in 20-24ish range often get flamed to moving too much, bc meeles find it annoying to walk with me i always look to not move out of any damagine abilities like rain of wl or ele sham thingy or mm rain of arrows. am i making a mistake by moviing or are they just complaining for no reason?
On first boss how come u Shoking disclosiour instead of Strength pot? is it just purely for add aggro since they're aids to group? (Not really something for tanking in generall very specific for this dungeon xd, im just curious)
I give my ui/wa's to people who sub to my stream and then link their twitch to discord acc. Then they can find everything in the ui/wa part of discord.
Can you do something like this but with a Prot Pally? This is some great stuff! Do you always play with the same people or was this just a pug? I can’t see a pug in a +32 going this smooth.
Thats a Swing timer tracker! Its not as useful as it used to be. I made it in Shadowlands when reprisal was a thing, since I often used to leap out to charge just after an auto attack. Its still somewhat nice, but definately not needed atm.
I appreciate the video. As a previous top 20 protect paladin during WoD-Legion I decided to watch the video as I've had thoughts of coming back every so often because I know I am honestly extremely good at raid tanking as a paladin, but watching this video just made me realize how much Mythic+ has ruined the game for me. It already took a lot of time and energy to maximize my raid strats, pulls, etc...but dungeons use to be a relaxing time with friends to PL, farm mats, pre-gear for raids prior to waiting for the raids release. But now it has turned into full raid mode in my offtime. Calling out stuns, cooldowns, directions, etc. No thanks. Hopefully classic + or something brings back old feelings but as long as Mythic + is in the game, I will never play wow live again.
The best tip you can give people is to be curious and learn the dungeon. Running dungeons blind is fine for normal and heroic but if you’re running Mythic + and you dont know what each mob does then you’re wasting everyones time.
tbf, half the shit on his screen, he doesn't need to track at all times. ui is all preference, but with weakauras for example you can display only the things you have talented etc
@@aescendance Yeah, that sound way better. I'd prefer to only see the buffs / debuffs that directly affect my gameplay, be it the ones on me or other group members. Honestly I don't play WoW any more. Just enjoying the occasional content from time to time for nostalgia reasons.
3:34 "almost press stuff on CD" but you didn't use Impending Victory once to heal. It's odd, you used a health potion and execute, but given the mob density and the high chance the cooldown would reset on a killing blow and increased your overall HPS. Additionally, at 7:44 you had a chance to heal with impending victory but instead used Shield Slam into Revenge. For the first twelve minutes of the dungeon it was never used until 12:16 fighting the hulk
Maybe this is troll but Impending Victory is pretty low prio. It doesn't do much damage, doesn't contribute to anything else. If you aren't in grave danger and don't need the heal, its not worth pressing if you have pretty much anything else to push. At 7:44, he was not in any danger at all so rather than wasting the GCD on IV, he uses his GCDs on SS > Revenge since they contribute more. He'd eventually regain the HP passively by the time he needs it again.
Impending victory is an "oh shit" button. Its a global that also costs rage. Its not something to be pressed unless you really need the heal asap. Hope this clarifies.
Also, the chances of getting a killing blow as tank are pretty slim (anecdotally after playing prot warr for the last couple months) so as the uploader has said, only use in absolute oh shit moments.
@@colpanius Not sure I'm understanding how it contributes more. "It doesn't do much damage" SS>IV is 22k+10k in damage single target where SS>Revenge is 22k+9.5k.... And you have the rage loss since SS> Revenge means a negative net gain of -5 rage (15 - 20) where as SS>IV would have beena net gain of +5 rage (15 - 10). Additionally, passively healing at 57k hps would take 6 seconds to heal for the 30% of 1m HP (300k) rather than healing 30% in one GCD.
Eh, you kind of contradict yourself by saying your dps need to get closer on last boss and calling them muppets. Tank is easiest role, you just need to maximize their ability to dps a 32. You don’t make petty demands, you serve them so far as team heirarchy goes.
you forgot to mention how you have capped leech and every revenge you cast with the warrior overtones your ability to throw gold on wow tokens to buy every single leech boe from the auction house.
This is the high-value type of content I feel there isn't enough of on RUclips. Please keep them coming!
As a new tank for 10.2 I literally crave this type of content from high end players, good stuff
Love how you actually say what your using on pulls no other tank video does this. Keep up the good work.
I loved how you highlighted your own mistakes and give suggestion on how you could have done better. Living legend.
please keep it up
The bleed from gnashers is actually really weird. They will try to cast it once, ever, after they have been in combat for a fixed amount of time (something around 5 seconds or more). However, if their threat target is not in range or if they are stunned at that exact moment, the cast attempt will fail and they will never try to cast the ability again unless they are reset.
Great stuff man! This is exactly what us aspiring tanks need!! :D
Great vid love this type of content. There's loads of guides but seeing it like this is so much better. Please do this more but with all the different tanks.
Ty for that guide! Really hyped to tank in season 3!
I can barely do a 9 or 10, I can't imagine what it takes to do 32 or whatever this is. This is insane to me. I love tanking but I'd be lucky to hit 15, I think. Definitely gonna check out more of your videos, this was very informative and brought to light some ideas I'd never thought of.
Great video, hope you make some for season 3 as well. It’ll be my first time really tanking M+ for my guild, so videos like this help a lot.
as a fury warrior, I need to watch this so I know what to do whenever I rip aggro every other pull xD
lowkey i hope you will make this type of high end breakdowns for a brewmaster in 10.2
fingers crossed they end up viable
holy! keep the tank videos coming this is gold
Outstanding video and I love the fact that you make it clear that everyone makes mistakes. I do have a question or two.
1. How do you track you absorb?
2. Do you video yourself via twitch?
Sorry if these seem like newby questions but I’m trying to improve myself.
frist tyvm mate and pls andy do more like this content .
waiting for the Feline bear main to react to this
Awesome vid, super relevant info, thanks!
Great Video!
M+ is just too stressful for me, i come home from work to relax not stress more lol
Hey Andy, how do you setup showing your health like you have in elvui?
in the first pull ur kiting the pack alot backwards, what does this excatly do is there a reason for that i myself i play tank in 20-24ish range often get flamed to moving too much, bc meeles find it annoying to walk with me i always look to not move out of any damagine abilities like rain of wl or ele sham thingy or mm rain of arrows. am i making a mistake by moviing or are they just complaining for no reason?
Why didn’t you use spell reflect there? Is it better hoping for a cast on you than magic dmg reduction for the dot? 12:54
Fantastic content! Big fan
good stuff dude
On first boss how come u Shoking disclosiour instead of Strength pot? is it just purely for add aggro since they're aids to group? (Not really something for tanking in generall very specific for this dungeon xd, im just curious)
Weak aura for the Green cross?
brewmaster video next!
Nice video dude.
thanks for the video
Hey ! Is there anyway we could get your UI?/WA's? Thanks for the great video
I give my ui/wa's to people who sub to my stream and then link their twitch to discord acc. Then they can find everything in the ui/wa part of discord.
bro you are a G
Can you do something like this but with a Prot Pally? This is some great stuff!
Do you always play with the same people or was this just a pug? I can’t see a pug in a +32 going this smooth.
andy whats the weak aura tick bar below your rage bar? thx in advance
Thats a Swing timer tracker! Its not as useful as it used to be. I made it in Shadowlands when reprisal was a thing, since I often used to leap out to charge just after an auto attack. Its still somewhat nice, but definately not needed atm.
I appreciate the video. As a previous top 20 protect paladin during WoD-Legion I decided to watch the video as I've had thoughts of coming back every so often because I know I am honestly extremely good at raid tanking as a paladin, but watching this video just made me realize how much Mythic+ has ruined the game for me. It already took a lot of time and energy to maximize my raid strats, pulls, etc...but dungeons use to be a relaxing time with friends to PL, farm mats, pre-gear for raids prior to waiting for the raids release. But now it has turned into full raid mode in my offtime. Calling out stuns, cooldowns, directions, etc. No thanks. Hopefully classic + or something brings back old feelings but as long as Mythic + is in the game, I will never play wow live again.
how do you find players on your own level to push keys on live?
im pretty sure he pugs like the rest of us. amirite?
This is amazing, but you should have done it months ago!
where is the reflect list
In the description, the 3rd link to Google Documents spreadsheet
The best tip you can give people is to be curious and learn the dungeon.
Running dungeons blind is fine for normal and heroic but if you’re running Mythic + and you dont know what each mob does then you’re wasting everyones time.
Or just.. don't do that first pull.
Do you have links for your ui/add ons?
you dont need addons to do high keys if you have a clear presence of mind.
sure, but they make the game/your character/content more digestible. maybe dillon just likes how andy's ui looks @@user-cm1fn2ss1i
@@aescendancedon't get baited, the first reply is from someone who thinks a +20 is a high push key lol
Looking at your screen I think what WoW needs are more icons on the screen.... yup....certainly not enough icons ATM.
tbf, half the shit on his screen, he doesn't need to track at all times. ui is all preference, but with weakauras for example you can display only the things you have talented etc
@@aescendance Yeah, that sound way better. I'd prefer to only see the buffs / debuffs that directly affect my gameplay, be it the ones on me or other group members. Honestly I don't play WoW any more. Just enjoying the occasional content from time to time for nostalgia reasons.
3:34 "almost press stuff on CD" but you didn't use Impending Victory once to heal. It's odd, you used a health potion and execute, but given the mob density and the high chance the cooldown would reset on a killing blow and increased your overall HPS. Additionally, at 7:44 you had a chance to heal with impending victory but instead used Shield Slam into Revenge. For the first twelve minutes of the dungeon it was never used until 12:16 fighting the hulk
Maybe this is troll but Impending Victory is pretty low prio. It doesn't do much damage, doesn't contribute to anything else. If you aren't in grave danger and don't need the heal, its not worth pressing if you have pretty much anything else to push. At 7:44, he was not in any danger at all so rather than wasting the GCD on IV, he uses his GCDs on SS > Revenge since they contribute more. He'd eventually regain the HP passively by the time he needs it again.
Impending victory is an "oh shit" button. Its a global that also costs rage. Its not something to be pressed unless you really need the heal asap. Hope this clarifies.
Also, the chances of getting a killing blow as tank are pretty slim (anecdotally after playing prot warr for the last couple months) so as the uploader has said, only use in absolute oh shit moments.
@@colpanius Not sure I'm understanding how it contributes more. "It doesn't do much damage" SS>IV is 22k+10k in damage single target where SS>Revenge is 22k+9.5k.... And you have the rage loss since SS> Revenge means a negative net gain of -5 rage (15 - 20) where as SS>IV would have beena net gain of +5 rage (15 - 10). Additionally, passively healing at 57k hps would take 6 seconds to heal for the 30% of 1m HP (300k) rather than healing 30% in one GCD.
Eh, you kind of contradict yourself by saying your dps need to get closer on last boss and calling them muppets. Tank is easiest role, you just need to maximize their ability to dps a 32. You don’t make petty demands, you serve them so far as team heirarchy goes.
I was listening to you podcast style while I drive, now I’m watching your last boss: you are the carry.
you forgot to mention how you have capped leech and every revenge you cast with the warrior overtones your ability to throw gold on wow tokens to buy every single leech boe from the auction house.
likewise to forgetting that showcasing a 32 key is irrelevant to your average viewer who cant even time a 20.
Imagine thinking he buys WoW tokens when the guild has hundreds of millions of gold lol
who are you to tell him who his audience is lol. can definitely pick up and use things from this video even in a +10 broski
@@riddert4966 lol exactly. no difference.
why are youtube trolls some of the lowest tier trolls on the internet?