Power in a Clamshell - AYANEO Flip
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- AYANEO is kicking off the new year with one of their more ambitious devices in the AYANEO Slide. The Sidekick inspired, spring-loaded screen reveals a tactile keyboard underneath.
▶ Buy AYANEO Flip here: www.indiegogo.com/projects/ay...
Edited by: @HiTechLoLife
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00:00 Start
01:08 Disclosure (IMPORTANT)
02:19 Ordering
03:43 What’s in the box
04:27 Device
05:57 Screen
06:47 Controls
08:36 Audio
09:46 Performance, Heat, Battery Life
11:42 Software
12:56 Final Thoughts 
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every handheld review should have a pocketable section! how well does it fit, when running demanding games does it get warm in your pocket, how easy is it pull it back out and start gaming and also put it back from your pocket in terms of sleep/closed lid functions, ect. Cause while i love my steam deck its also nice having a pocketable handheld that you can have literally anywhere and dont need a separate bag or backpack for it
You are soooo outta pocket rn🤦🏻♀️just joking🙆🏻♀️
this... this is important to me.
i'd argue most , if not all pc handhelds are not pocketable? Maybe the GPD minis or the WinGPD4, but its so rare that a section covering it wouldn't really be merited.
@@MrSpineduke one this this tho would be nice, especially since its a clamshell n seems fairly small
@@MrSpineduke There's an argument to be made about the Lite Ayaneo, but that's basically it. I think we need to stop focusing on pushing the top TDP processors and get a more midrange lower power, but most importantly cooler chip to get things fit in. Additionally, sliders may potentially help too. The biggest issue I see with getting something pocketable is the battery in something like these....
The disclosure at the start of these is such a king move ngl.
I really like the look of clamshells, it's a very pleasing aesthetic!
seems like ayaneo comes out with a new product every month
Thanks for this preview. A fan of Nintendo's handhelds, I love the clam shell designs. I feel like I could get used to the recess buttons and sticks. Plus, it's got a built in keyboard. Meaning none of that virtual keyboard BS that plague other Window handheld devices. Definitely got this device in my sights. ^^
Glad to see a review of the kb model. I play a lot of traditional roguelikes (CDDA, Elona, Dwarf fortress) and the keyboard is required for me. I like that the backer price is cheaper than the gpd win mini as well.
Only ever owned a steam deck so I didn't know USBC power bricks could have detachable cables or foldable progs those are features I'd like to see in the Steam Deck 2.
it looks like a mini dvd player from a car boot sale
I would definitely prefer a built-in keyboard to a second screen, especially since I don't have any DS games, but you're right about the recessed sticks not being good enough. It's so close to what I really want, but not quite there. I'd love to see a proper handheld that had collapsible grips and sticks that popped out so they could be full height when you're using them. I wish I could source all the chips and build something from scratch, because I want one that collapses into a pocketable brick and expands into a mini-laptop style game pad with grips.
I love the recessed sticks on the win mini. They are hall sticks so accuracy is absurd for the small size. It's only second to my steam deck. Whoops my full sized controllers for accuracy.
@@cheeeeezewizzz So you're saying that with Hall effect sensors you don't need taller sticks to have good accuracy? I'll have to get a couple so I can test it then. However, failing that, I think maybe it would work to have the thumb pads screw on and the posts to be telescoping, like an old style TV antenna. It might require a weird locking mechanism, but I'll play with that idea too.
@@anon_y_mousse that just sounds... really bad in terms of feel and durability
@@cheeeeezewizzz I guess you'd have to try it to know for certain.
@anon_y_mousse Sure, but I'm imagining a control mechanism built on multiple moving components. I've never tried any sort of control mechanism like that which I would call durable or comfortable. Seems more like a personal diy idea rather than something that would ever be a product
I just got my flip and I experience a lot of issues at the beginning. Like my screen suddenly faded to black for 2 days?!? And then it suddenly work again but Ayaspace doesn’t work at all. In the end, manage to solve all of my issues. My flip works fine now.
How has it been since then if you dont mind me asking?
My hands will definitely cramp with that design. It looks like the 3ds with small palm bumps. Definitely gonna need a case that'll increase the hold ability
It'll probably appear on Etsy like for the GPD Win 3
Missed opportunity to have the keyboard and the screen has interchable modules
That device would cost over $2000 and would be much more prone to breaking
🎵 Aya in a clamshell... AYA POWER! 🎵
I love how nerd nest guys use little local memes in their videos with references to each other :D
Aya kb flip vs gpd win mini please!
I want one so bad dude
Assuming all the technical issues are resolved, do you think you'd choose this over the GPD win mini?
never.
I preordered mine, feels bad I have to wait so long.
I want it bad 😂
Wanna see all the games it can play.
So cool.
Will you do a GPD win min comparison to the Ayaneo Flip KB? More in depth with size and performance.
Teenage muntant ninja handheld. Teenage mutant ninja handheld
What are the internal temps like? Does the fan keep the cpu and gpu cool enough and no throttling? Thanks 👍
One question that I have is, since it has “Nintendo Switch” joy sticks, can the stick extenders for the switch work as a way to make the joysticks more enjoyable to use?
I’m wondering if I can use this as a PDA? I love smaller pocketable hand helds
Any idea when valve will have the Bluetooth and audio drivers for oled windows?
If you have detachable raised sticks, at some point the screen is gonna get flipped closed on top of the sticks and will crack.
Honestly, what makes this device interesting to me is the second screen, but I still watched your video to support you
I have a question. When fully opened, does the screen get in the way of the triggers on the back? I saw you holding them quite uncomfortably. IDK if It's because the screen not being fully visible when it's opened fully or not.
Please do reply... And your video was quite a lot of help
With the added width compared to the GPD Win Mini, they could have put a bigger keyboard with more "real", closer to full sized, keys.
"At 18 W the AYANEO Flip was drawing 28 to 30 W"
That literally doesn't make any sense. If you said it to 18 watts shouldn't it be drawing 18 watts?
Perfect mini pocket pc with full windows 11 whoa it won’t be soon till we’ll be calling from a windows/android phone hybrid
Those little keyboards always make it look like one of those portable-PCs only your nerdy cousin had in like 2008 and the device just doesn't have a very modern look at all. The dual screen one does at least look a lot more slick but at least the Deck has a simple, modern design
i like the retro-ish design, in my opinion it looks nice
I had a dream that I had the flip KB, and it felt so real. Expect they shipped the black one when I ordered the white one and there was a mess of fingerprints >:|
WHY!!!!!! Dont you Compare with the GPD WIN MINI,,,WHYY?????? Asus Rog Ally???? (because the screen?) missed oportunity.
This could’ve replaced my Win Mini, but those buttons look a bit too low profile.
$900? Yeahhhh about that.
My problem with all of these devices is Windows, it finds every way it can to annoy you with bloatware/spyware and disrupt your experience, and it generally just feels weird to try and game on a portable device using Windows, as opposed to Steam OS or whatever the Nintendo Switch uses which are designed with portable gaming in mind. I like the physical keypad and clamshell though, the Nintendo DS was such a joy to play on because of the clamshell.
so would you take this or the win mini?
Hmm Win Mini, I'd say. Especially the Win Mini refresh with the VRR panel. Better controls, better display, better audio. The GPD software is not beginner friendly but I suspect that if you're in the market for an AYANEO Flip or GPD Win Mini then that's not really a factor for you. Best of luck.
What game was that at the start on the keyboard version?
The fighting game is Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike and the 3D game is Hi-Fi Rush
@@ccricers thanks!
I honestly wonder if half these "stick drift" issues are actual stick drift. I mean there is something clearly wrong, but it doesn't necessarily make it stick drift. These symptoms being identified a sstick drift can happen to Hall Effect sensors.
"Stick drift" is defined as a phenomenon, and is being observed. Potentiometer track degradation causes stick drift, but is not the only cause of it.
In particular (!), Joycon type sticks experience drift primarily because of deformation of the rear plate, and insufficient pressure of the wiper on the tracks at the bottom.
Saying "stick drift" = "potentiometer track degradation" is like saying "rain"="wetness". There are many ways to get wet without rain being the cause.
@@richardhunter9779 Ya if you're going to approach this from the "rain"=/="wetness" angle, then the video is still incorrect as you can still get stick drift from a hall effect sensor. There are a variety of means for which this can happen. Same applies to trigger drift and trigger lock on the xbox one controllers when they started using hall effect sensors for the first time. A lot of this was caused by misaligned magnets or magnets that not remain attached to the trigger mechanism and would get stuck to the daughter board of the controller.
Ergo, in context, we can then identify a phenomenon in the standard vernacular being applied as the observed effect. Welcome to modern english. I guess you'll want to argue colloquials with me all day and failing to realize that in effect was not referring to anything outside of potentiometer degredation as being "stick drift".
which leads me to my original statement, where other issues which could result in similar phenomenon are not directly related to what an issue we commonly conflate to be "stick drift" and the actual underlying cause that results in this association with a potentiometer exclusive too.
What was said, was made in that context. So while I'll thank you for trying to clarify, you missed the point.
I like it, but what I want a device shaped like the Ally with a sliding screen in the middle. Under the sliding screen is a keyboard, or second screen that doubles as a Trackpad.
Search up Aya Neo Slide. I think the might be close to scat you’re looking for
Ayaneo slide 💀
@Free_East_Turkestan almost. Unfortunately it has a small battery and 60hz screen without vrr.
And the price is outrageous.
Otherwise it's exactly what i want. I may pick up a used one. Thank you.
@kewlztertc5386 all handhelds have bad battery life, and for the price, a way to justify it is to connect it to a monitar and keyboard and use it for pc work and handheld gaming, if you dont already have a pc
@Free_East_Turkestan I do, I have a PC an Ally, and Sream Deck.
A 4300mh battery is equivalent to the Ally, but lower than the Steam Deck, LL-Go, and of course the Ally-X.
I love these HH-PC's for the versatility you mention. My Ally, will become a permanent desktop once I upgrade. I'll even get an xg-mobile GPU (used) for it.
you didn't read the review notes from Ayaneo correctly.... you DO HAVE HALL EFFECT JOYSTICK SENSORS.. you just don't have THE MASS-PRODUCED VERSION OF THEM.... In other words you just have a different type of Hall Effect joysticks than will be available in the public release version....
- aside from you misreading this, I think you did a GREAT JOB by showing us the review notes from them... it gives usd a TRUE LOOK behind the scenes of what kind of company Ayaneo REALLY is and I think they were perfectly reasonable in requesting that you don't mention certain things.... I DON'T think you did anything wrong by showing this and you did a FAVOR FOR AYANEO because it actually puts them in a QUITE POSITIVE LIGHT.... (unlike some of the horror stories we've heard from some reviews about companies like nvidia, asus, msi, & a few other big companies)
- I hope this didn't cause ANY problems between you and AYANEO... there aren't many channels I TRULY TRUST to give me REAL FEEDBACK that also cover Ayaneo products and YOU are ONE of them (and you do a podcast with the other... but I'm not telling who LOL) So THANK YOU for putting it out there that they ARE REASONABLE and aren't asking strange, dishonest requests... It's really hard to get a TRUE picture about a lot of these companies.. ESPEICALLY the fairly new ones, like Ayaneo. :)
I have a BAD habit of not waiting until the end to leave comments... and THIS is EXACTLY one of those times LOL - You said you experienced 'stick drift, which wouldn't happen on Hall Effect sticks" BUT they said in their review notes that the stick "may not return" ... this is EXACTLY what happened to you... that wasn't "stick drift" ... that was the sensor not returning back to center/neutral and was only temporary, (right? it did fix itself, yea?) - from what I have come to understand 'stick drift' STAYS like that until you adjust for it in your calibration setup (I THINK you can compensate for it in calibration... I know I had to a long time ago on game controller for my PC)
Again, you DID/DO have a Hall Effect Sensor Joystick in the Flip (if they are to be believed, but I don't see why they wouldn't be) - If it wasn't a hall effect sensor stick then I don't think it would have been able to reset the issue at all and you would have HAD TO adjust for it in calibration (you just hold the stick in a position for it to show that it's centered, then click OK/Done and that SHOULD compensate for the drifting... at least it USED TO be like that in Windows XP lol... dang I'm getting old :( lol
I appreciate your commentary. You're right on all accounts. To be honest, I thought they made a mistake in their wording with regard to "mass-produced version of them" because I anticipated a poor translation but your explanation is on point. Many thanks for the clarification and in-depth comment.
Ayaneo flip kb vs Gpd win mini?
Leaning towards the Ayaneo Flip. I like the placement of the joysticks and buttons a lot better over the GPD win mini design.
14:38 game name ? thanks
Typing of the Dead
I have no use for the flip KB, flip ds is cool, but seems too fiddly
I really wish people would stop making these tiny little 1080p displays. It's so small you can't even tell the difference, so it's just a waste of power for no discernable gain.
i’m just glad it’s not 4K SUPER ULTRA HD WIDESCREEN (4K+) like so many laptops
I don't mind a smaller screen. I would just end up doing 720p and then use the software to upscale the resolution for better performance.
There’s a ton of larger sized screens out there wdym
1080p aint too much tbh
@@Free_East_Turkestan on a screen this small, it is. I know someone who has a ROG Ally and it's screen is not noticeably any better than the Steam Deck, in fact it often looks worse tbh.
The same is true of those tiny little phones with high quality screens, you simply can't see the difference when it's this small.
Hope a real manufacturer makes a clamshell soon
Same.
GPD is the best manufacturer there is.
Honestly same. Bring back the UMPC form factor. I'd even like to go without the controllers (maybe just a stick and buttons for mouse). I could even do with pretty pedestrian processing power onboard, but I do like all my devices to be able to play some light games with a Bluetooth controller.
omg why no trackpad
It doesn’t need one because of the optical mouse lol
@@DulioCat how is it compared to deck's trackpad for shooters?
Thinkpad like tracpoint nub would be perfect, I actually played some shooters like Half-Life and Mafia on it.
Wayyyyyyyy too expensive
Damn only for "cool" people! 🤣
Nowhere near gpd win mini. That right stick looks extremely uncomfortable to be honest 😂. Keep working aya. Maybe next month when you release v2 version or in 2 months with v3😂😂😂
Oh? Is the GPD Win Mini really that better of a design? I'm not sure how I feel about the button and joysticks placements over the center.
@@ShadeKoopa is great. But to have right stick down there is extremely uncomfortable. Gpd mini is high quality.
@@liviup6660 Guess I'm used to how the 360 and switch pro controller works.
No one is paying 1,400.00 to play hand held games.
this is a windows device that can play steam games. also it starts at $700 (the same as a rog ally z1 extreme or legion go lol)
Its 700, and no one buys pc's just for games, this is like a pocketable laptop with buttons for gaming
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As usual, it’s amusing that ytbers keep stating that no money has been received to keep the illusion that a review is objective. Remuneration doesn’t have to be monetary, but also could be in the form of goods (free system) and/or services…so for a review to be truly objective and relevant, the reviewer should bear the cost of the unit like any end user.
Once again - I'm not "trying to keep the illusion that the review is objective". I'm disclosing facts. I'm disclosing all the things that one could feel like would influence the review
I believe my reviews are objective and plainly state so (rather than try to allude to it) but more importantly it's up to you to determine whether the content of my review sounds impartial to you.
11:24 what game is this?
Lords of Exile. Kinda like Castlevania 3 meets Shinobi 3