I'm no F1 expert, but I feel this whole incident could've been easily avoided if Max had just dropped a banana peel while Daniel was in the slipstream.
max did 2 defensive moves and the last one was under braking too. and red bull had the guts to not say that it's max's fault. no wonder ricciardo left...
you literally see him downshift AFTER making the second move thus braking after, the first one isnt really even a move since he was moving towards the corners to take that one optimally and defended after that.
Danny was already breaking when Max made his 2nd move, but Max didn't start breaking until just after it. Either Danny braked slightly early, Max braked too late or Danny was expecting problems and wanted to take a very tight line through the corner
There's no debate about what happened, Riccardo following that close compromised his front wings ability to create downforce. He tries to approach the corner at the rate of the car he's tailing but due to lack of downforce he locks his wheels and slides.
@@Nobody7720 yes but Verstappen made 2 moves in defence which isn't allowed, one of which was under braking, Ricciardo had the pass done if Verstappen didn't do the illegal move.
Kimi has mentioned before for Max: “as he is moving in the breaking zone, there will be a terrible accident some day”. RedBull paid this aggressive driving approach
Verstappen moved twice, the second move was very late - almost in the breaking zone - and crearly left Ricciardo with nowhere to go. It was a risky but fair move by Danny Ric, so really blame goes to Ver.
Also when you're moving back onto the line you have to leave a car width of space between you and the near edge of the track for the car behind to take
Moving under braking again, what a stupid kid. Watch him do the same with Kimi in hungary 2016 lol this idiot will never learn and fia will never penalyze him
Max swerve twice; rules only can do it once. Ric went to the right, Max blocked it (Max's 1st move) When Ric went to the left, Max blocked again (Max's 2nd move, which is invalid)
I personally think they shouldn't have been on the same piece of track at that time, Max's second defence where he almost ran dan into the wall wasn't sportsmanlike and needed to be addressed by the team immediately if not the stewards. Max made a double move and braked significantly earlier than dan before the collision, stupid driving by Max, unlucky for dan that a driver in front left him with nowhere to go. Unless there's internal punishment for max, expect to see dan in a red or silver car next year
Everyone can be blamed for this incident: Red Bull for letting them fight too much, Ricciardo for overcommitting, Verstappen for what looks like moving too much. It's a rough day for Red Bull, I saw this coming all along. Red Bull needs to think about the greater perspective more often.
Yup saw this coming as soon as the Renaults got past and they didn't release Daniel. It makes some sense if they'd fixed Max's battery issues, but even still I think the sensible move would have been to tell them to chase down the Renaults then fight among themselves.
Erkka Nieminen Well the proof is in the video. He moves to the right outside the breaking zone and a bit to the left inside the breaking zone, If I counted it correctly it’s 1.
when you look at all the imiges you can see that max is looking in his mirrors and moves on Danis first move. Dani right. max slightly right. after that max is in his breaking zone. Dani tried to get to the other side but didn't have room. He saw that to but Max hits the breaks right at the point where Dani's drs comes off. Which leaves him with NO chance to stop at that point as his down force is too disturbed behind Max. I would conclude that neither driver was at fault. I would say the drs closing point was way to close to the end of the streight. As you can see at the last view in this clip. Dani's drs closes mere mili seconds before they hit. and Max there is allready in his breaking zone.
Max made two moves. Riccardo was committed and could not back out due to lack of downfoce. I love max, but he is starting to drive like kvyat nowadays.
Max knew exactly what he was doing, clearly done 2 defensive moves but also when the replay was shown from Max's car. You can clearly hear and see that he took his foot of the accelerator because the car suddenly slowed down and the engine noise went quieter
you do know there is something called a "corner" coming up? he did not only stop accelerating, but went on the brakes, cause if he wouldn't he would just overshoot the corner...
Rianne van Selm Well to be fair, other drivers are mostly following the rules and value finishing the race over getting a "dnf". There is a very well known saying: 'To win a race, you must first get to the end of it!' Still, Max is different, he seems to bend the rules at will and gets away with it probably because he is a big factor of financial interest, is not a title contender, wants to desperately "show off" how "good" he is and therefore has nothing to lose, other than his reputation and the trust of other drivers of course. But obviously he doesn't care and he doesn't learn, according to him and his followers it's always the others that ruin his races and sometimes he is out to get revenge by simply not acknowledging the presence of others around him during the races it seems. The soft and lenient "punishments" he gets, the fans that fully support him and blame others despite of Max' very bad racing etiquette, the teamchefs at RBR that always make excuses rather than telling the truth etc., are not helping the cause at all, even worse, they are probably a few of the many reasons why he does pull off these stunts and has no respect to his opponents, nor even to his very own teammate Danny..... _"They simply don't want to lose the extra __-orange-__ money, do they?!_ ------------------------------ PS: If this was F1 in the 50's - 90's, Max already would have injured or killed himself and or someone else by now. This type of "racing etiquette" Max is using over and over again is unacceptable, as this isn't a "arcade online racing game", no, actual people are risking their lives driving these monsters and that's why the rules of clean and fair racing have been made. In all honesty, Max really needs to learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, Ricky was clearly faster so there was no point in driving that aggresively. This is "F1", a non-contact series of mptorsports, and not some crazy "NASCAR" or "Bumper Car" event at your local fair.....
True but Danny Bhoy is smart enough to know that Max is going to be an absolute troublemaker to the last breath and be sure to leave extra extra extra room when driving around Max. That's what I would have done.
The Internet is ruining everything Yeah but probably, after all the race that he was faster and behind Max, Dani get complitly stressed and try this, forgetting how idiot is his teammate
Not in the breaking zone. Zero moves there. Besides that, you can move 100 times, no problem. Only in the breaking zone there is a gentlemens agreement not to move twice. Verstappen did not move at all.
Ronald de Rooij The hell are you talking about?? You are not allowed to move more than once in any occasion, not just in the braking zone! Otherwise, the drivers would zig-zag all the time in order to not get overtaken...
At Verstappen's onboard you can see that he doesn't actually move his steering wheel. Maybe he shouldn't have closed the door in that way, but it wasn't a double move.
Tim Dev Max moved in front of him AT THE BRAKING POINT, Daniel had no where to go and didn’t have time to brake earlier how could he possibly avoid it?
Being unpredictable is a good thing for a driver. Also, there is no rule that says you can not move to a more defensive line BEFORE the braking point. They are both to blame. Not just Max. It is funny to me seeing people totally ignore the fact that Ricciardo made a total do or die move. His signature divebomb move usually works, although the one with Bottas could have ended in tears all the same. The problem with that move is that there is no way to avoid a crash if your opponent does something you did not expect because you are going to the inside.
PbPomper I’m not ignoring that it was a divebomb and also believe it’s not entirely Max’s fault, however Max has shown time and again that he makes poor racing decision which even if are within the ‘rules’ cause crashes, this is one of them
@Jordan This one is not on Max, sorry. This one is is Ricciardo's. Even if he would have made the move, they would have crashed since they wasn't enough room on the left to make a move. Ricciardo should have backed off, he didn't, so he is the one to blame here.
toto wolff would not even try writing crap like this i hope. Even if max moved, ricci came so fast there was no way in hell he could have breaked in time..... im so sick all the idiots here.. cause if youve watched the race anyone who can to three would have guessed after round one this battle would not end well.... an engineer saying go get em one time was just a dasaster waiting to happen... the teams should said enough calm down.... any moron or dickhead or a max haters is just to dumb to say anything that maters... the team should have said 10 rounds before enough boys... end of story
Article 38.2a of the 2018 FIA Sporting Regulations "More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. If a driver has moved off the racing line while defending their position, they may move back but must ensure there is at least one car’s width between their own car and the edge of the track."
In both situations thou I think it was verstappens fault, he did the same nasty half switch of position and the driver behind doesn't stand a chance. Max is just reckless and shouldn't be allowed to drive
Well maybe he wasn't so obvious as it was in Baku but verstappen clearly steered to the right and then changed the direction, he gave Vettel the impression where he was going to be in the breaking zone and than again switched the position. You are right it is Vettels fault cause there is no official rule about it and because he was at the back, but I think there wasn't much he could do about it. He was clearly faster even before verstappen started to break (because verstappen went wide in the corner) and if you generally look at verstappens driving he isn't mostly known for a clean one... (Sry for a bit clumsy explanation)
Danish television had a clip where they had zoomed in on Verstappens helmet coming down the straight. And you could see him looking in the mirrors purposely blocking of Ricciardo. That crash was on purpose, he had no intetion of letting Ricciardo through what so ever.
What is so strange about not letting someone through in a race ?? All i saw was great racing of both Daniel and Max , they made the race worth watching . Sad thing is that it had to end this way . But you sissies always look for somebody to blame . I enjoyed them both very much , they both have balls to race !
I dont really care if moving side to side is against the rules or not anymore, Max needs to think about self preservation. He knows where Daniel is. He knows what Daniel is committed to. How can you move over at the last moment and expect the car behind to slow down in time? Even if you are allowed to do it, you shouldnt do it due to the possibility of getting ran over. Sometimes you need to let an aggressive driver by to live to fight another day.
Except: It would have resulted in a crash regardless (Look at the pitwall on the left, no way Ricciardo could have made that move stick without crashing, because he speed was also too high).
Nick den Toom Actually you're completely missing an important point, when Max moved under braking he moved the turbulent wake over Daniel's front wing, which is why this is the only move he locked up both front tyres. If Max had of followed the rules, Daniel's speed was fine.
Nick den Toom There was enough room between Max and the wall at 0:14 before he moved over. I would say you could call Daniels move a little too hopeful there, but if Max left the space and Daniel blew the corner into the run-off space, that would have been his problem, not Max's
But thing is: Max never moved under breaking. Go watch the vid again and listen to the engine. Max starts breaking when he is already completely in front of Dani, because he wants to turn in for the corner. Completely Daniels fault here, since he should have backed off. @Quags There was room yes, but not enough, because Daniels speed was way too high and he would have hit Max regardless, since Max would have turned in to make the corner.
Moving under braking is not the issue. Moving twice to defend a position is, braking or not. That's what Verstappen did, clear as day. Whatever 'might' have happened to Ricciardo is irrelevant, as the cut left by Max stalled Dans front wing and thus caused them to crash.
The main thing is that, whith DRS, the speed differential between the two car is so big. So, arriving to the corner, Ricciardo was much faster ( may be 30-40 km/ h faster) and once he moved to the left after Verstappen moved to right , he was committed to to left and that's it. What Crashtappen and his defensers do not get is that beyond that point the car coming from behind can not slown down any faster and have barely enough braking distance to make corner. Stepping ahead of him beyond thid point is calling for an accident, that's it. If you wanna change your li e 1-2 or three time, you need to do before this point of non return.
Can we all just quickly remind ourselves that all the Dutch fans commenting "Ricciardo to blame" we'rent watching F1 6 or 7 years ago To them, seeing Max cause accidents like this without condemnation from Red Bull is the norm - plus they're not particularly aware of the "one move whilst defending" rule. 0:25 Verstappen sees Ricciardo move right, and darts to the right to try and force Ricciardo further to the outside (whilst opening at least a cars width on the inside). When Max no longer sees Ricciardo in his right wing mirror as he would expect, he panics and leans back left (i.e the second move, which is illegal) and removes the car width of space he opened up, hoping to block Ricciardo from lunging down the inside. Unfortunately it's already too late, with Ricciardo being the last of the late brakers and Max removing a large portion of Ricciardos front downforce by blocking him, there was nowhere for Dan to go. Verstappen was sold the dummy and panicked. Remember kids - if the door is open, you ARE allowed to close it. However if you open the door and then immediately proceed to close it coming into the same corner - that is illegal. Sometimes you have to accept that the car behind has outfoxed you. Had Max ceded the position and got him back at turn three, we'd all be commending him.
I know RedBull doesn't want to point the finger at anyone but, as a Max fan, Max shouldn't have closed the door when Daniel moved left. He had DRS and was clearly faster. He had no where to go
There are two groups of people who don’t understand that this was max’s fault. People who are max fans and people who don’t understand racing. So really just one group
Why not put one with telemetry? It's pretty clear here that Ric was already on the brakes when Ves changed direction which makes it all of Veses fault.
Somany haters. But at the end this was the best fight ive seen in the last 3 years. This is what makes us watch F1. Ofcourse sad it ended like this but jesus christ we want some action and when we get it we all go crycry.
DarkstealthGaming Ye i agree that good racing IS what we want to see....but either way I do also get IT why ppl are being mad at Max, seems like he never learns....
Balnazzardi well, sorry to tell you but max is not at fault alone here and ricciardo is even more at fault if u wanna blame fingers. The whole race he went to the right, now he went to the right and max went left ( before the braking zone so thats ALLOWED ) and daniel just tried to go for a invisible hole.
DarkstealthGaming we call it over committing, clearly there was no room there.. Same was with Hamilton crash with Rosberg a driver doesn't leave enough room and so you force yourself in, at no point did Max give him room to Overtake, I don't know where he was actually going and to add, at his speed he wouldn't have made that corner
Fanuel Sayi what your saying makes no sence. Your blaming max yet saying ricciardo had no room? There was a whole track to the right, daniel went right EVERYTIME and even now he made a move to the right what made max go to the left. In my oppinion max left him enough space and daniel just tried something that will never work. Should have just kept his calm and go to the right. He even admitted he was to late to attack there.
Doesn't matter. Dani was going to fast anyways and would have crashed into him, since Max needs to make the turn into the corner as well. There was no room for Dani to make that move.
'doesn't matter' You are just being a complete idiot here, if he left the space, what's happened will be the same in China at the Bottas situation. Daniel will simply complete the over take and left this fking kid to eat his dust.
Nick den Toom Max pretty much did a move that disproves your comment earlier. Up to turn 2 he didn't have a nose alongside Dan, and Dan closed to the inside leaving 1 car width. Max late braked right into that gap and Ric had to completely back out of the corner so Max could make the turn.
He was not breaking there. He started breaking right when he downshifts. Then again, moving is perfectly fine as there is no rule against it. Verstappen did not do anything wrong. Racing incident in my opinion
What are you talking about? There is nothing to warp here. Play the replay again and see when Verstappen finishes his move. Only after that he starts breaking and shifting down.
Inderdaad Tristan , het begint echt heeeel irritant te worden hoe liberty media aan het haat zaaien is naar max toe. Er komt echt geen aandacht voor de Ocon > Kimi crash , want dat is Ferrari terrein. Ik ben Liberty behoorlijk aan het aanvallen en mijn comments krijgen dus automatisch ook geen likes, maar elke crashtappen comment krijgt minimaal 80 likes. Dat valt wel op, dus die likes komen van Liberty. Nou, ben benieuwd of die Americanen de moeite nemen om dit comment te translaten ;-)
Martijn Vv Doen het idd puur voor het geld. Maar als Max 2x een fout maakt is ie Crashtappen, als Vettel of Lewis een fout maken is er niks aan de hand. Ook de Fia mag Max niet. Bij Kimi en Ocon is er niks en bij Max en China springen ze er echt meteen bovenop🤨
Daniel has a reputation for hard, fair racing and brave, clean overtaking. Max has a reputation for rash decisions, moving under braking, petulance, an absence of introspection and a sense of entitlement. This incident was just the culmination of a series of poor decisions by Max. Be thankful for halos, is all I can say, because if Max keeps driving like this, there will be serious issues.
@@joedawson Lewis the one understeering into the inside of copse though, if that wasnt rash i dont know what is. People make misstakes, 7 time world champions too.
Article 38.2a - more than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. Article 27.8 prohibits any manoeuvre liable to hinder other drivers such as changing direction under breaking. Max - Guilty as charged
And ricardo literally said it was not his fault like BRUH he was turning right but then he turned back to verstappen and crashed into him and max did nothing wrong, ricardo could have gone on the outside
I don’t think necessarily I need to be less aggressive or anything because it’s nothing to do with being overly aggressive but maybe wanting too much.'' Someone told Max this is not Nascar...LOL
For people saying that Max moved under braking, if you look at 0:14 Ricc insists inside, Max defends the line with a little move and AFTER the move you can see the car weight goes to the front, that is when he starts braking, which you can also see at 0:31 in the onboard now that I think it. That means he saw Daniel's attempt and defended the inside before the braking started. Also Ricc had just enough space inside still after Max's move but he decided to go outside but had no time. After all, its a racing incident, that happens when you take risks which both Ric and Max do, that's 50/50 for me. Most of all Red Bull team is responsable of it, but I'm very glad they let them race because it was such an exciting show. Awesome race and season so far
Appendix L 2018 Published on 14 March 2018 More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off-line, should leave at least one car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach of a corner.
the baku gp 2021 is ahead.....just had a quick look of what we might see this weekend.....:-) loved to see every camera angle of the "incident"......grat stuff.....maybe lewis and valteri next time please....???
Why did you show the "camera looking back" angle of Ricciardo and not the one of Verstappen? That would have made a hell lot more sense.
The truth right here
It's to show everyone that Ericsson actually didn't hit Ricciardo.
The conclusion would be *they don't have that footage*
Because that camera got wrecked I guess xD
but the images are generated and transmitted right away, aren't they?
It was Ocons fault. Honestly my team mate is so reckless i hate him
Sergio Perez looooooooollo
no it was Ericsson
Sergio Perez when ur trying to act like the real one
Sergio Perez LoL
Sergio Perez CHECO?!
I'm no F1 expert, but I feel this whole incident could've been easily avoided if Max had just dropped a banana peel while Daniel was in the slipstream.
hilarious
Or a turtle shell backwards 😂
Is this how torro rossos are made
hahahahahaha
Toro Rosso actually got a win before Red Bull
😂😂😂😂😂😂
max did 2 defensive moves and the last one was under braking too. and red bull had the guts to not say that it's max's fault. no wonder ricciardo left...
you literally see him downshift AFTER making the second move thus braking after, the first one isnt really even a move since he was moving towards the corners to take that one optimally and defended after that.
Danny was already breaking when Max made his 2nd move, but Max didn't start breaking until just after it. Either Danny braked slightly early, Max braked too late or Danny was expecting problems and wanted to take a very tight line through the corner
He had to brake because there was a corner
There's no debate about what happened, Riccardo following that close compromised his front wings ability to create downforce.
He tries to approach the corner at the rate of the car he's tailing but due to lack of downforce he locks his wheels and slides.
@@Nobody7720 yes but Verstappen made 2 moves in defence which isn't allowed, one of which was under braking, Ricciardo had the pass done if Verstappen didn't do the illegal move.
Ericsson fault
Marcos Ortiz na 100% haryanto
So, this is where humor dies.
No not ericsson its häkkinen's fault
Midget Man Pascal's fault
Worn out joke! But I see at least 556 people haven't heard it. lol
They show Ricciardo's back because they are showing that he had DRS on. That's why he was going faster. It's important for understanding the crash.
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NANI?
Even here? lol
Kimi has mentioned before for Max: “as he is moving in the breaking zone, there will be a terrible accident some day”. RedBull paid this aggressive driving approach
World Champ ;)
@@Peyto4 thank FIA, he is gonna dig his own grave making all those terrible moves
@@Peyto4 thanks to the fia lol
@@best___0999 Lewis should have won in Abu Dhabi, Max should have won the season many races before. It was Max’s season.
@@Peyto4 still robbed
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Jodiler_77 I was going t say the same thing, so while we are stealing comments...
“Oh cool comment, lets steal it.”
To be fair .. Im french .. And this made me laugh
MUUUUHAHAHA 😜 That was funny 😂 and he say to team mic- Ericsson hit mee 🤣😂 he was not even near MUUUUHAHAHA 😜 RRRRRR LoCOoo
Stealing comments? Jesus get a life
Verstappen moved twice, the second move was very late - almost in the breaking zone - and crearly left Ricciardo with nowhere to go. It was a risky but fair move by Danny Ric, so really blame goes to Ver.
And he's still doing stuff like this 3 years later... xD
@@dolefomi he’ll never learn
@@carlolongobardi3369 he is world champion now
@@nahuelsuarez8498 he already was when I made my comment. He’s still reckless
if it was Lewis in Ricciardo's senerio. blame would Have gone to Him 😂😂 and a penalty from Massi
What was Verstappen thinking, i mean, he clearly knows Ricciardo is gonna make that move.
Why you put Ricciardo's back cam, but not Vestappen's?
it might of got damaged during the crash
Agreed. "All the angles" except Verstappen's back cam
because then it would be obvious whose fault it was
ansquad0 lol I agree
Tim Gostev Even if it did get damaged, they'd still have footage since it live streams to Race Control..
1 defensive move is allowed in braking zone. Verstappen made 2.
It is allowed to change langes once. But changing langes while braking is forbidden 😉.
and at least 3 lane switches
Also when you're moving back onto the line you have to leave a car width of space between you and the near edge of the track for the car behind to take
Max stayed on the inside of the turn, ricciardo was all over the place like a drunk retard. He deserved to be in a lesser car after this.
@@matsie3134 read the rulebook
My best video!
Dan bu-wh???? Why are you here????
Dan's a F1 fan ??
@@sharcc2511 don’t u get it, red bull Dan bull
Thanks for the rear camera of Ricciardo at 0:55. Big IQ moment @FORMULA 1
They show all angles so it's very important one 😂
Anyone else here after the Vettel incident?
Yes
Yes. And I would say its both Max fault
@@leonardomatheus1888 you are idiot
Moving under braking again, what a stupid kid. Watch him do the same with Kimi in hungary 2016 lol this idiot will never learn and fia will never penalyze him
@@sneakysnake4466 agreed. Max verstappen should change his attitude. Dangerous attitude that can cost himself like that again
If you look closely at 0:45 it looks like they touched each other a bit!
also you can see ericsson smashing into them
I see it aswell! You gotta look good for it though
I don't think so, I think it was Niki Lauda, trying to clear some debris from the track, who got in the way, causing Max and Dani to spin out.
Why don't you see there was a giant lizard on the track
Holy shit your right!!
Clearly it’s Kvyat’s fault
cLeArLy
I’m surprised Helmut Marko hasn’t brought him back as a designated fall guy lol
Maybe he possessed Riccardo
Бля стопудово
Heartbreak for Red Bull 💔
No mercy for Christian Horny. He can't even manage his own marriage.
Jraybay naaaaaaaaaaaahhh
That's still a lot of points they missed out on because of unnecessary teammate rivalry
Jraybay Heartbreak for me!!!! I had Ricciardo, Verstappen, and Bottas on my F1 Fantasy League Team.
LD #22 yer nuts make them stop?? Lol this is exactly what the f1 needs!
Max swerve twice; rules only can do it once.
Ric went to the right, Max blocked it (Max's 1st move)
When Ric went to the left, Max blocked again (Max's 2nd move, which is invalid)
Also he was under breaking
Here after the Verstappen-Perez incident in Brazil 2022
I personally think they shouldn't have been on the same piece of track at that time, Max's second defence where he almost ran dan into the wall wasn't sportsmanlike and needed to be addressed by the team immediately if not the stewards.
Max made a double move and braked significantly earlier than dan before the collision, stupid driving by Max, unlucky for dan that a driver in front left him with nowhere to go.
Unless there's internal punishment for max, expect to see dan in a red or silver car next year
Yenayenaye Jones xd a yellow slow piece of shit
4 years later but Ricciardo is also to blame cause he missed the breaking zone before Max
This didn't age well
@@Giovannixx97 Fr lol
@@Giovannixx97 this aged amazingly. Dan ended up in a yellow and black car instead, just not a red or silver one.
Everyone can be blamed for this incident: Red Bull for letting them fight too much, Ricciardo for overcommitting, Verstappen for what looks like moving too much. It's a rough day for Red Bull, I saw this coming all along. Red Bull needs to think about the greater perspective more often.
Horizon saw it coming or guessed it?
Finally someone that knows what he is talking about!
Yup saw this coming as soon as the Renaults got past and they didn't release Daniel. It makes some sense if they'd fixed Max's battery issues, but even still I think the sensible move would have been to tell them to chase down the Renaults then fight among themselves.
Horizon and it’s mark webbers fault
you forgot ericsson. not many people saw him but he was actually in front of verstappen
Max made two moves, you are allowed to do one defensive move. Sorry dutch fans
Juce not true.
You really should read the rules again :) They removed the 'Verstappen rule', this was totally Ricciardo's fault.
Geert de Vries rule was indeed removed a time ago, doesn’t mean he’s any less guilty here
You are allowed to make 1 move in the breaking zone. Max only did 1 in the breaking zone, so yeah.
Daniel Brodowski ricciardo should've backed off or at least move to prevent a colision
+18 Brazzers original
muscly Aussie rams poor dutch boy
Need some matador for redbull
Young man breaks rules then takes a hard hit from behind ;)
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Shows how toro Rossos are made
The HALO saved them😶😶😶
You have no idea where halo's are for do you?
Darkwinter sarcasm
i still dont get halos... rider did not died on f1 tracks for a quite a long time why they are adding new safety stuff then..
Erkka Nieminen Well the proof is in the video. He moves to the right outside the breaking zone and a bit to the left inside the breaking zone, If I counted it correctly it’s 1.
ThePegas i feel like the fia wants to feel like they do something good for the safety of the drivers
MAD MAX
Franc Sharma What a mental guy
Franc Sharma MAD DANI
How can it be MAD MAX when he was hit from behind? You need to look at whats happening and not just blame Verstappen automatically
Also Max didn't move during breaking, as you can see from his onboard. He did move slightly before the breaking zone though.
when you look at all the imiges you can see that max is looking in his mirrors and moves on Danis first move. Dani right. max slightly right. after that max is in his breaking zone. Dani tried to get to the other side but didn't have room. He saw that to but Max hits the breaks right at the point where Dani's drs comes off. Which leaves him with NO chance to stop at that point as his down force is too disturbed behind Max. I would conclude that neither driver was at fault. I would say the drs closing point was way to close to the end of the streight. As you can see at the last view in this clip. Dani's drs closes mere mili seconds before they hit. and Max there is allready in his breaking zone.
Max made two moves. Riccardo was committed and could not back out due to lack of downfoce. I love max, but he is starting to drive like kvyat nowadays.
One difference. Max is not at fault here. Making 2 moves is perfectly legal. He made zero moves in the breaking zone.
Thank you!
Ronald de Rooij Again, it's not! You can't move more than once of you're defending your position.
Difference is, Max could crash ten more times and just get yelled at, while Kvyat torpedoed Vettel once and got demoted to Toro Rosso.
Ronald de Rooij Ricciardo had a much faster pace in the straight line and overall, so Max should let him past
Thanks for posting that last camera angle
Anyone else come here after the gp at silverstone today? Mad Max strikes again, just came off second best this time...
Max knew exactly what he was doing, clearly done 2 defensive moves but also when the replay was shown from Max's car. You can clearly hear and see that he took his foot of the accelerator because the car suddenly slowed down and the engine noise went quieter
you do know there is something called a "corner" coming up? he did not only stop accelerating, but went on the brakes, cause if he wouldn't he would just overshoot the corner...
Verstappen's fault.
Tries to win every battle in every corner. Sometimes you gotta know when to quit.
How many incidents now this sesson?
ajazmohammed37 at least he tries. A lot of drivers wouldn’t do it because they are scared to crash or scared to lose places in the Championship.
Rianne van Selm
Well to be fair, other drivers are mostly following the rules and value finishing the race over getting a "dnf".
There is a very well known saying:
'To win a race, you must first get to the end of it!'
Still, Max is different, he seems to bend the rules at will and gets away with it probably because he is a big factor of financial interest, is not a title contender, wants to desperately "show off" how "good" he is and therefore has nothing to lose, other than his reputation and the trust of other drivers of course.
But obviously he doesn't care and he doesn't learn, according to him and his followers it's always the others that ruin his races and sometimes he is out to get revenge by simply not acknowledging the presence of others around him during the races it seems.
The soft and lenient "punishments" he gets, the fans that fully support him and blame others despite of Max' very bad racing etiquette, the teamchefs at RBR that always make excuses rather than telling the truth etc., are not helping the cause at all, even worse, they are probably a few of the many reasons why he does pull off these stunts and has no respect to his opponents, nor even to his very own teammate Danny.....
_"They simply don't want to lose the extra __-orange-__ money, do they?!_
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PS: If this was F1 in the 50's - 90's, Max already would have injured or killed himself and or someone else by now.
This type of "racing etiquette" Max is using over and over again is unacceptable, as this isn't a "arcade online racing game", no, actual people are risking their lives driving these monsters and that's why the rules of clean and fair racing have been made.
In all honesty, Max really needs to learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, Ricky was clearly faster so there was no point in driving that aggresively.
This is "F1", a non-contact series of mptorsports, and not some crazy "NASCAR" or "Bumper Car" event at your local fair.....
True but Danny Bhoy is smart enough to know that Max is going to be an absolute troublemaker to the last breath and be sure to leave extra extra extra room when driving around Max. That's what I would have done.
im wondering how many completely destroyed cars this season... and its not even halfway over!
The Internet is ruining everything Yeah but probably, after all the race that he was faster and behind Max, Dani get complitly stressed and try this, forgetting how idiot is his teammate
I like the fact you uploaded this without a commentary or opinion sound component. 👍
Totally a double move
Sure, but not in the breaking zone...
Not in the breaking zone. Zero moves there. Besides that, you can move 100 times, no problem. Only in the breaking zone there is a gentlemens agreement not to move twice. Verstappen did not move at all.
Ronald de Rooij The hell are you talking about?? You are not allowed to move more than once in any occasion, not just in the braking zone! Otherwise, the drivers would zig-zag all the time in order to not get overtaken...
At Verstappen's onboard you can see that he doesn't actually move his steering wheel. Maybe he shouldn't have closed the door in that way, but it wasn't a double move.
Yep. 100% Verstappen's fault here. Ric outbreaked, but the collision happened because of Verstappen.
Daniel Ricciardo: when Verstapen went ⬅️➡️ I felt that
No se por que de tantos accidentes que han habido en la f1, este es mi favorito, me encanta verlo una y otra vez🙂
And to think they sent Kyvat back to Toro Rosso for crashing into Vettel once whereas Vertsappen can cause as many accidents as he wants
Repeat that comment
Now we know why
lolol
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Max is too unpredictable, he moved to a more defensive line too close to the braking point, a crash was inevitable no matter what Daniel did.
Tim Dev Max moved in front of him AT THE BRAKING POINT, Daniel had no where to go and didn’t have time to brake earlier how could he possibly avoid it?
Being unpredictable is a good thing for a driver. Also, there is no rule that says you can not move to a more defensive line BEFORE the braking point.
They are both to blame. Not just Max. It is funny to me seeing people totally ignore the fact that Ricciardo made a total do or die move. His signature divebomb move usually works, although the one with Bottas could have ended in tears all the same. The problem with that move is that there is no way to avoid a crash if your opponent does something you did not expect because you are going to the inside.
PbPomper I’m not ignoring that it was a divebomb and also believe it’s not entirely Max’s fault, however Max has shown time and again that he makes poor racing decision which even if are within the ‘rules’ cause crashes, this is one of them
@Jordan
This one is not on Max, sorry. This one is is Ricciardo's. Even if he would have made the move, they would have crashed since they wasn't enough room on the left to make a move. Ricciardo should have backed off, he didn't, so he is the one to blame here.
Nick den Toom I think either of them could have avoided it however Max’s late change of direction gave Daniel no option :/
I think Formula 1 should show more footage from older crashes onboard in the past cause we didnt always get to see them
Vertappen blocking the same way that has taken several drivers out in the past
Max' fault cause he moved twice
When your manager is busier chasing women instead of doing his job, this is what you get.
toto wolff would not even try writing crap like this i hope. Even if max moved, ricci came so fast there was no way in hell he could have breaked in time..... im so sick all the idiots here.. cause if youve watched the race anyone who can to three would have guessed after round one this battle would not end well.... an engineer saying go get em one time was just a dasaster waiting to happen... the teams should said enough calm down.... any moron or dickhead or a max haters is just to dumb to say anything that maters... the team should have said 10 rounds before enough boys... end of story
@@veerkerozenberg4635
whooooooooooooooooosh
+Toto Wolff Does that mean you were cheating on Suzie back in Spain 2016?
And it goes on and on with Crashtappen! ;)
It's not the first time we see Max doing this, he did the same thing to Kimi in 2016 Hungary GP and caused a collision.
The braking sound is just beautiful.
That awkward moment when you brake check your teammate and cost your team hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nice moves Verstappen
Trash Boy silly boys
not hundreds but millions
Brake check? He was braking for the corner.
Ricciardo was still smiling after this, I’m gonna miss him so much…
After seeing the front on Verstapen is 100% at Fault no doubt about it
Article 38.2a of the 2018 FIA Sporting Regulations "More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. If a driver has moved off the racing line while defending their position, they may move back but must ensure there is at least one car’s width between their own car and the edge of the track."
I came here for max and seb crash in 2019 british grand prix.
Anyone else here?
Heloo
In both situations thou I think it was verstappens fault, he did the same nasty half switch of position and the driver behind doesn't stand a chance. Max is just reckless and shouldn't be allowed to drive
@@rokmerse9551 That didn't cause the accident with Vettel...
Well maybe he wasn't so obvious as it was in Baku but verstappen clearly steered to the right and then changed the direction, he gave Vettel the impression where he was going to be in the breaking zone and than again switched the position. You are right it is Vettels fault cause there is no official rule about it and because he was at the back, but I think there wasn't much he could do about it. He was clearly faster even before verstappen started to break (because verstappen went wide in the corner) and if you generally look at verstappens driving he isn't mostly known for a clean one... (Sry for a bit clumsy explanation)
I don't understand why so many complain. This is what we watch F1 for: fights and action on the track! If you want to see a train...
Waiting for Verstappen's 360° cam^^
That ladies and gentlemen is why you don't block in racing
Back here after Austria. Ah, the comfortable familiarity of the past
Even Webber and Vettel didn't crash into each other twice, achievement unlocked.
Who came here after the 2019 british grand prix?
Yeah... I still feel Verstappen is making 2 moves all the time.
@@Midaspl worst is him playing the victim card.
Midaspl Max definitely did nothing wrong in Silverstone.
Danish television had a clip where they had zoomed in on Verstappens helmet coming down the straight. And you could see him looking in the mirrors purposely blocking of Ricciardo. That crash was on purpose, he had no intetion of letting Ricciardo through what so ever.
What is so strange about not letting someone through in a race ?? All i saw was great racing of both Daniel and Max , they made the race worth watching . Sad thing is that it had to end this way . But you sissies always look for somebody to blame . I enjoyed them both very much , they both have balls to race !
oh yeah, because running each other of the track is racing. of course my bad!
I dont really care if moving side to side is against the rules or not anymore, Max needs to think about self preservation. He knows where Daniel is. He knows what Daniel is committed to. How can you move over at the last moment and expect the car behind to slow down in time? Even if you are allowed to do it, you shouldnt do it due to the possibility of getting ran over. Sometimes you need to let an aggressive driver by to live to fight another day.
Except: It would have resulted in a crash regardless (Look at the pitwall on the left, no way Ricciardo could have made that move stick without crashing, because he speed was also too high).
Nick den Toom Actually you're completely missing an important point, when Max moved under braking he moved the turbulent wake over Daniel's front wing, which is why this is the only move he locked up both front tyres. If Max had of followed the rules, Daniel's speed was fine.
Nick den Toom There was enough room between Max and the wall at 0:14 before he moved over. I would say you could call Daniels move a little too hopeful there, but if Max left the space and Daniel blew the corner into the run-off space, that would have been his problem, not Max's
But thing is: Max never moved under breaking. Go watch the vid again and listen to the engine. Max starts breaking when he is already completely in front of Dani, because he wants to turn in for the corner. Completely Daniels fault here, since he should have backed off.
@Quags
There was room yes, but not enough, because Daniels speed was way too high and he would have hit Max regardless, since Max would have turned in to make the corner.
Moving under braking is not the issue. Moving twice to defend a position is, braking or not. That's what Verstappen did, clear as day. Whatever 'might' have happened to Ricciardo is irrelevant, as the cut left by Max stalled Dans front wing and thus caused them to crash.
funny thing you deliberately left out the team radio...
The main thing is that, whith DRS, the speed differential between the two car is so big. So, arriving to the corner, Ricciardo was much faster ( may be 30-40 km/ h faster) and once he moved to the left after Verstappen moved to right , he was committed to to left and that's it. What Crashtappen and his defensers do not get is that beyond that point the car coming from behind can not slown down any faster and have barely enough braking distance to make corner. Stepping ahead of him beyond thid point is calling for an accident, that's it. If you wanna change your li e 1-2 or three time, you need to do before this point of non return.
Yapping
Can we all just quickly remind ourselves that all the Dutch fans commenting "Ricciardo to blame" we'rent watching F1 6 or 7 years ago
To them, seeing Max cause accidents like this without condemnation from Red Bull is the norm - plus they're not particularly aware of the "one move whilst defending" rule.
0:25 Verstappen sees Ricciardo move right, and darts to the right to try and force Ricciardo further to the outside (whilst opening at least a cars width on the inside). When Max no longer sees Ricciardo in his right wing mirror as he would expect, he panics and leans back left (i.e the second move, which is illegal) and removes the car width of space he opened up, hoping to block Ricciardo from lunging down the inside. Unfortunately it's already too late, with Ricciardo being the last of the late brakers and Max removing a large portion of Ricciardos front downforce by blocking him, there was nowhere for Dan to go. Verstappen was sold the dummy and panicked.
Remember kids - if the door is open, you ARE allowed to close it. However if you open the door and then immediately proceed to close it coming into the same corner - that is illegal.
Sometimes you have to accept that the car behind has outfoxed you. Had Max ceded the position and got him back at turn three, we'd all be commending him.
I know RedBull doesn't want to point the finger at anyone but, as a Max fan, Max shouldn't have closed the door when Daniel moved left. He had DRS and was clearly faster. He had no where to go
Ricciardo: I’m gonna divebomb you.
Verstappen: I don’t think so.
MAX: "We where Drag racing".
No Max, you are *weaving* in straight line, this is not drag racing, but stupid driving.
They are the best to watch it was only a matter off time anyways keep it up boys
Who came here after Silverstone 2019 race??
It's been almost a day, and there is still no top radio or anything. Horribly late.
There are two groups of people who don’t understand that this was max’s fault. People who are max fans and people who don’t understand racing. So really just one group
Can not wait for the 360 degree camera on the Red Bulls
Order in the court please ladies and gents
Why not put one with telemetry? It's pretty clear here that Ric was already on the brakes when Ves changed direction which makes it all of Veses fault.
Max being Max. Oh well, nothing new to see here
Who came here after Vettel and Leclerc incident
Somany haters. But at the end this was the best fight ive seen in the last 3 years. This is what makes us watch F1. Ofcourse sad it ended like this but jesus christ we want some action and when we get it we all go crycry.
Ferrari fans are to busy hating on max. But i totally agree, awesome battle, sad ending..
DarkstealthGaming Ye i agree that good racing IS what we want to see....but either way I do also get IT why ppl are being mad at Max, seems like he never learns....
Balnazzardi well, sorry to tell you but max is not at fault alone here and ricciardo is even more at fault if u wanna blame fingers. The whole race he went to the right, now he went to the right and max went left ( before the braking zone so thats ALLOWED ) and daniel just tried to go for a invisible hole.
DarkstealthGaming we call it over committing, clearly there was no room there.. Same was with Hamilton crash with Rosberg a driver doesn't leave enough room and so you force yourself in, at no point did Max give him room to Overtake, I don't know where he was actually going and to add, at his speed he wouldn't have made that corner
Fanuel Sayi what your saying makes no sence. Your blaming max yet saying ricciardo had no room? There was a whole track to the right, daniel went right EVERYTIME and even now he made a move to the right what made max go to the left. In my oppinion max left him enough space and daniel just tried something that will never work. Should have just kept his calm and go to the right. He even admitted he was to late to attack there.
And yes. If Max hadnt moved again, there would have been enough room for Dani to complete the overtake
No there wasn't, look again at the pitwall. Dani would have crashed no matter what.
Nick den Toom
0:12 But there was 1.1 car widths there after Max took the dummy's bait. Ricciardo committed to taking that gap
Doesn't matter. Dani was going to fast anyways and would have crashed into him, since Max needs to make the turn into the corner as well. There was no room for Dani to make that move.
'doesn't matter' You are just being a complete idiot here, if he left the space, what's happened will be the same in China at the Bottas situation. Daniel will simply complete the over take and left this fking kid to eat his dust.
Nick den Toom
Max pretty much did a move that disproves your comment earlier.
Up to turn 2 he didn't have a nose alongside Dan, and Dan closed to the inside leaving 1 car width. Max late braked right into that gap and Ric had to completely back out of the corner so Max could make the turn.
the second angle from 0:10 shows how much verstappon moved under breaking
He was not breaking there. He started breaking right when he downshifts.
Then again, moving is perfectly fine as there is no rule against it.
Verstappen did not do anything wrong. Racing incident in my opinion
What are you talking about? There is nothing to warp here. Play the replay again and see when Verstappen finishes his move. Only after that he starts breaking and shifting down.
Ronald de Rooij stop maar. Het heeft geen zin te reageren deze hatertjes willen gewoon aandacht.
Inderdaad Tristan , het begint echt heeeel irritant te worden hoe liberty media aan het haat zaaien is naar max toe. Er komt echt geen aandacht voor de Ocon > Kimi crash , want dat is Ferrari terrein.
Ik ben Liberty behoorlijk aan het aanvallen en mijn comments krijgen dus automatisch ook geen likes, maar elke crashtappen comment krijgt minimaal 80 likes. Dat valt wel op, dus die likes komen van Liberty.
Nou, ben benieuwd of die Americanen de moeite nemen om dit comment te translaten ;-)
Martijn Vv Doen het idd puur voor het geld. Maar als Max 2x een fout maakt is ie Crashtappen, als Vettel of Lewis een fout maken is er niks aan de hand. Ook de Fia mag Max niet. Bij Kimi en Ocon is er niks en bij Max en China springen ze er echt meteen bovenop🤨
Tenk Yoo Velly Much lads - Regards, Force India
Daniel has a reputation for hard, fair racing and brave, clean overtaking. Max has a reputation for rash decisions, moving under braking, petulance, an absence of introspection and a sense of entitlement. This incident was just the culmination of a series of poor decisions by Max. Be thankful for halos, is all I can say, because if Max keeps driving like this, there will be serious issues.
Every point about Max is still relevant this season.
@@joedawson Lewis the one understeering into the inside of copse though, if that wasnt rash i dont know what is. People make misstakes, 7 time world champions too.
He s gonna sure wins 4th wdc easily and top 3 in race wins, you may hate him but it is these mistakes u told got him where he is just now
Article 38.2a - more than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. Article 27.8 prohibits any manoeuvre liable to hinder other drivers such as changing direction under breaking. Max - Guilty as charged
that's how max drive he deliberately brake in front of the drivers to prevent them from passing him
Where is 360 Camera?
Great job...You show Ricciardo's cam back instead Verstappen's...
Verstappens was destroyed.
Wow, a replay without Sky commentary
Who's here after Max brake tested Hamilton in Jeddah again.
Ricciardo's not winning races, but he's happier now being part of a team that doesn't give preferential treatment.
Max is channeling his inner maldonado
They grow up so fast
And ricardo literally said it was not his fault like BRUH he was turning right but then he turned back to verstappen and crashed into him and max did nothing wrong, ricardo could have gone on the outside
Verstappen was turning in the braking zone, you can't do that
I don’t think necessarily I need to be less aggressive or anything because it’s nothing to do with being overly aggressive but maybe wanting too much.''
Someone told Max this is not Nascar...LOL
On the pre-race Max said he needed to chill a little... Yeah right.
Vertsappens fault. I still don't understand that people think it was Daniels.
max's fans are not f1 fans
That's how baby F1 are made.
Quote Max China : „i dont Need to be Less aggressive“
Mission completed Max well done ! 😂
Yes he did, and now they will think twice to overtake him hehehehe
Watching after Tom mentioned this video in the “Are Mercedes really this slow?” Episode of the WTF1 podcast after FP2 of Baku 2021
perhaps the best fight between team members in history. too bad it ends this way
yeah one of the best fight between team members. Prost/Senna was even better (or worse ;))
For people saying that Max moved under braking, if you look at 0:14 Ricc insists inside, Max defends the line with a little move and AFTER the move you can see the car weight goes to the front, that is when he starts braking, which you can also see at 0:31 in the onboard now that I think it. That means he saw Daniel's attempt and defended the inside before the braking started. Also Ricc had just enough space inside still after Max's move but he decided to go outside but had no time. After all, its a racing incident, that happens when you take risks which both Ric and Max do, that's 50/50 for me. Most of all Red Bull team is responsable of it, but I'm very glad they let them race because it was such an exciting show. Awesome race and season so far
The team, FIA stewards are helping Max. Max drop the standard of F1 makes f1 likes kids playground.
That rear wing look from Danny Ric! Judging from that view, totally mistake of Max 😅
Appendix L 2018 Published on 14 March 2018
More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted.
Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier
defended his position off-line, should leave at least one car
width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach of a corner.
verstappen shouldnt of made that 2nd move especially when your not even fighting for a podium.
the baku gp 2021 is ahead.....just had a quick look of what we might see this weekend.....:-)
loved to see every camera angle of the "incident"......grat stuff.....maybe lewis and valteri next time please....???