2:10 is a completely different situation compared to the first two, at 2:10 Verstappen had 1 lap old warm tires, while Lewis had new cold tires, so obviously Max was way way way faster at that moment and had much more grip, he could easely brake way later and Lewis was essentially just not doing a smart move and steering into Verstappen on top of it all. 0:40 Lewis probably didn't expect Max do shift this perfect, the Mercedes was the faster car, Lewis probably expected to only give Max a free slipstream if he moved in front of him. Max somehow managed to speed up perfectly and braked later on top of it, then there's only one way, back of. I think that Lewis should have given him the slipstream, then Max would probably have had to back of himself and then Lewis had an easy pass. 1:26 - 1:31 Max was in front the entire time, Lewis trying to overtake him on the outside just ain't a smart move (all over again), anyone with a bit of racing experience should know that, it seems like Lewis is simply not used to overtaking or beïng overtaken, he really drives like an unexperienced driver.
@@AAb-xy6et i mean, just because "it isnt a smart move" doesnt mean a driver isnt allowed to try, nor that the defending driver is allowed to shut off the door
Hamilton fans, F1 Sky Sport employees and DTS newbie idiots on full throttle to hate on Max Verstappen. These people really are pathetic and is making this sport worse than ever before
@@justlovelyaintit there's a big different between real life and game if you didn't know that. Max always drive like he's the only one on track, another one is George Russell he caused a collision many times and just blame another driver at false.
From what I see, Hamilton seems to put a lot of trust on his clean air pace and their pit strategy that he’s always “just trying to survive Verstappen” first half of 2021 season.
Except for Silverstone 2021, where he saw in the sprint race, if he let Verstappen got away on round one, he will never see him again. He therefore understeered into Verstappen, the Red Bull ender up into the wall, Verstappen to the hospital, and Red Bull overspending their budget to fix the car, something that they are still paying for today. For his trouble LH got a 10 sec penalty in a car that could easily win that race by 30 seconds
@@beerstein7137 Lewis causes a collision and got the necessary penalty lmao what are you crying about, in fact 10 seconds is quite high for a causing a collision penalty
@@beerstein7137 Max could have avoided that crash (like lewis did in brazil 21), but Max fans cant stop crying a river since 2 years about something he was partly to blame.
@@beerstein7137 and then hamilton celebrate like he win through a really hard race meanwhile george the one that hamilton fans deemed as evil doer after causing crash on silverstone 2022 he get out the car to check zhou is okay meanwhile hamilton : HE HIT US FIRST
@@ShaggyRodgers420 it's clear that once Max's car is underperforming he gets his elbows out and that's ok i mean that's why he is one of the best, but sometimes he makes "Back off or we both crash" decisions which is something that works just fine in karting, but in F1 you might actually kill someone you dimwit, now watch how the FIA will discipline both Red Bull and Max.
verstappen did it many times in 2018 ~ 20, the difference is that hamilton knew that his car was much better so there was no reason to be agressive too if in some laps he could overtake him easily, from 2021 it was not the same anymore and if he kept letting max by he would lose the championship, now i think its the opposite, max know his car is much better so he is less agressive, a example of this is australia 2023 when lewis was agressive but max overtook him without any difficulty with drs because of this car difference. So (in my opinion) they play their games relative with the machinery, now its lewis turn.
Australia '23 wasn't even an agressive move, Max left the door open. Lewis overtook him and left him space on the exit. Compare this to some of the clips from this video and it's a night-and-day difference. At the end of the day, the way you overtake is a conscious decision, Hamilton's early years in F1 weren't agressive (particularly when battling Vettel and Webber's RBs or Kimi and Massa's Ferraris) and even now with, on average, the 3rd/4th fastest car, I haven't seen him send any kamikaze moves on anyone. It's can be frustrating to watch Max pull off a kamikaze overtake on a driver you support but I don't think Max should be blamed as, at the end of the day, the FIA's ruleset allowed (and still allow) Max to drive in the way he does. All annoyance should be directed to them. Edit: This comment was written in response to Jonathan's opinion that drivers only drive agressively when their cars are slower than the people they're racing with. In it, I refer to the seasons Lewis competed for the WDC at McLaren ('07, '08, '10, '12) as evidence that (imo) Jonathan's take is wrong and that this trend is more specific to Max than anyone. [Alonso @ Ferrari '10, '12, Kimi @ Ferrari '07 are other good examples]. Hamilton wasn't fighting Massa for the championship in '11 and so comments pointing out that they collided a lot aren't a relevant rebuttal to my comment.
@@danielo7985 i mean tbf his early years at mclaren were pretty aggressive nonetheless, especially during the silver war era when he was battling against nico too (2014-2016). Im not saying one is worse but they both definitely drive aggressive till they have a good car under them
@@arFung0420 oh yeah without a doubt i mean if you name one champ like that then id give you $100 because it takes EVERYTHING to win especially coming from nothing with nothing. People are the most dangerous when they have nothing to lose. Im not saying one is worse than the other im just stating that they gave it there all, there was aggression, there was battles, etc.
@@danielo7985lewis in his early mclaren days specially in 2011 was even worse than max, he crashed into massa like 6, 7 times in a roll with kamikaze moves, in this case was not even a machenery thing because his mclaren was pretty decent, was just moves that didn't make any sense, max was like this in 2016~2020 specially in 2018 so they are no angels, probably they created a different mindset about being relative with the scenario and knowing that they shouldn't be that agressive all the time
If Max raced himself in 2021 he would've crashed way more times. It's visibly obvious that most times it was Lewis who avoids Max's aggressive moves, especially at the starts, and the few times where he decides he's going to be aggressive too, they end up crashing, and that's what F1 fans focus on
“It's not important how we play. If you have a Ferrari and I have a small car, to beat you in a race I have to break your wheel or put sugar in your tank.” - José
I like how somewhere in the season, lewis said enough. And they started colliding every race almost. Lewis should have been aggresive from the season start. But he let himself get bullied in the first half.
@@travisfubu9053 couldn't agree more and even though the consequences of that crash could've been catastrophic, I had little sympathy for max, he had been doing this for years, he was crashstappen in '17-'18 ffs, people forget
@@j2jwhatsapp Yes Max had some crashes when he was young but so had Lewis. People forget about it. Even last year in Spa with Alonso and remember the collisions with Albon. So don't blame Max, Lewis was an aggressive driver as well when he was young.
@@yoran1784 ofc Lewis is aggressive and he's had crashes, but to compare that to max is stupid. Never in his career has Lewis been accused of being dangerous like max though and there isn't a debate. I mean Adrian newey confessed that max brake tested Lewis in Saudi '21 and you're here defending what exactly ? Every F1 driver at some point is guilty of being aggressive, but very few had the reputation of being dangerous like max.
i cant stand hamilton, but he is very much the more mature driver for obvious reasons. but if everyone backed off at every corner, then f1 would be even more boring. we need drivers like verstappen as well as the old heads
@@mowvuI feel like we will see a lot of collisions involving Lando and Russel v Verstappen. They don’t have the cool head and experience of Lewis and they won’t back out when Verstappen does his usual
@@JajajacoSpoti123 not looking good for next year tho lad. rbr got a lot of work to do. not just the chassis/engine degrading, but the amount of staff they've had pinched by other teams. same exact decline happened to merc. I'm a neutral that likes nobody and extremely dislikes hamilton, window licker and zhou so popcorn will be ready come march
@@p_m_a That’s a great point and I hear you but in my opinion it looks as if the wheel if the halo had not been there would’ve landed straight on Lewis’s head, in fact I think slightly makes contact with the very top of his helmet even with the halo
I know exactly why Lewis backed off in Spain, in 2016 Nico did a similar start, Lewis however covered the inside allowing Nico to go around the outside of Lewis. Learning from his mistake then he learned holding the inside line may not have been his best option I guess.
i dont think that the mistake. nico just braking late and go futher ahead than lewis on that turn..then lewis got better traction on that turn 2 and got better speed on turn 3 while nico engines in incorrect setting. derated..
If Lewis gives Max the inside for 1, and Max races fairly (aka, leaving a car's width on the outside), Lewis would have the line for 2. Defending the inside isn't always better in a fast chicane like that. Look at the move Checo pulled on, I think it was Carlos? when he braked later on an outside line and just plum drove round him.
We all know Lewis almost always not trying to defend the inside line, because he like his "Switch-back" move which is very effective in the past especially againts Rosberg
yes, i actually agree with this. i believe it never against max because max was much better at maintaining his speed out of the corner than rosberg. even to this day, you'll see max always prioritizing corner exit speed, even at cost of a much slower entry than normal.
@@fruitygranulizer540 Not really, the switch back almost never works on Verstappen because he blocks the other car. It's not illegal, since he owns the corner, it's just annoying to the other driver since he is giving space.
Lewis loves inside line so that the can conveniently understeer and take someone out, with himself gain positions often his own car intact. Whereas Max, often either crash himself alone, or take someone out with him, don't from the crash benefit himself. Max really need to learn from Lewis how to take opponent out and gain advantage at the same time, that's why Lewis is GOAT, able using all tricks to his advantage, super good at politics and off grid media propaganda. Max still got a lot to learn from Lewis (who is a more complete package). Max is still naive, pure love of racing (hobby is still Sim Racing lol), and bloody direct that spit out anything he thought.
You have to see all these situations in the context of the championship standings etc.. If you do then it all makes sense why Lewis did and did not back off and why Max didn't back off at Monza.. Same with the Silverstone 2021 incident, that crash had everything to do with what happened a day earlier in the sprintrace.. Same with Senna vs Prost in Japan 1990 and I could go on and on.. Context is everything to understand why drivers act like they do..
Why Tsunoda got a penalty for a similar maneuver is beyond me. This clip shows easily how Zhou could have made the corner. And Max came in way harder than Tsunoda did.
@@DevilWolf000 they're basically alongside in the corner. Max breaks too late because he goes deep into the corner. If lewis didn't give up max was going to crash into him. No skill issue, it's called having brain cells.
"drives like lewis"? What that is supposed to mean? He doesn't take risks? That's not what I saw in Monaco a few days ago. You are forgetting 1 big thing: Max does improve in Sims, that's nothing Lulu ever liked to do. So he's in constant improving and learning what he can do next, and with the fastest car, it's an easier job. It's not the same driving when he had less power/performance car, but even that he's still dominant and not only by his car.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 imagine if Lewis left all this celebrity stuff and focused on sim racing and racing 24/7 like Max,imagine he went karting a lot,he would beat everyone easily lol,Lewis is arguably the best driver on the grid rn,or 2nd and thats without him being 100% invested in racing he does a lot of stuff out of it
He’s always driven a lot like Hamilton. In his 2015-2021 days he drove like Hamilton from 2007-2016. Now he often drives like Hamilton from 2017 onwards.
They were matched in quali but it was nearly impossible for the RB to pass a merc with the straight line deficit in the dirty air era, without draining the battery or being on a different tyre strat. Catching Bottas in Russia being the notable exception. The car that's quicker in the corners is more affected by front deg because fronts are crucial in extracting its laptime and are pushed more, whereas the car with better top speed doesn't lose a massive amount of laptime due to front deg.
That applied to all the cars. Recently re watched the 2021 season and both Max and Lewis were stuck behind the McLaren cars in the Monza race. They couldn't get past for the entire firsts stint. And of course that is why they had to put Max and that famous collision happend. The same in Sochi when Hamilton was stuck behind Norris for 20 laps and Lando would have won if the rain didn't come. It's was just harder to follow in those cars with the dirty air without a huge pace deficit.
i kind of stopped watching F1 after 2016 until 2021. so im not sure if this was an actual thing during those years. but technically a car that has higher downforce (being faster in turns, but slower on the straights) has lower degradation of the tires in the turns because you slide less. unless the mercedes willingly backed off during turns and made that time back on the straights. that wouldnt be a car characteristic but a driver tactic though.
The merc has always been worse than the red bull in dirty air lol. Red bulls high rake concept gives more front downforce and therefore less likely to lose grip when following a car. You know nothing
Of course when max leaves no spaces (which he does really often) it's totally fine for him and the other driver has to back of, but when he gets no space, the thought backing of doesn't even go through his brain, causing a collision
Well he’s smart while executing it though. He only did it against his championship rival and when he has the championship lead 😂 basically saying “I don’t mind crashing if you don’t back off”
@@SuperWillEvans Not even remotely. No one considers Lewis a dangerous driver .... if Max has any remote form of competition... there will be a crash if they don't back off. He's a TERRIBLE wheel to wheel racer.
I used to think Monza '21 was Hamilton's fault, but the point that Verstappen put Ricciardo in the same exact situation earlier in the race and Danny backed out made me change my mind
@@kondjedes4866 100 % verstappens fault even if hamilton gave him room, which he wasnt obligated to do he was still way too deep from T1 and going to launch off the kerb and across the track, and i like both drivers tbh
When you look at Max Vs. Lewis and compare it with his battles with Ricciardio, Leclerc etc. you can see how much Lewis lets himself get bullied. I feel like if he just covered his line a lot of the incidents and times he got overtaken wouldn’t have happened in 2021.
Yep, people talk about how much Max is a bully when overtaking, but ignore that Lewis is one of the most passive drivers when defending. He puts himself in these situations with Max, specially when you compare to guys like Charles or George that defend and block much earlier, and make Max have a way harder time overtaking
I feel like part of this is due to the fact that he got used to being so much faster than everyone else that he wasn't expecting red bull to be at an equal level.
I think they just have a different understanding on what's fair in a race. Not just Max vs Lewis, it's more like the new gen drivers vs older drivers. You watch how Kimi raced, even going through corners, if there's a car beside him, he'd leave enough space for both of them to get through. Max (and Leclerc) would just run you off track the moment (he feels) he is 1 inch ahead. I remember there were a couple times towards the second half of 2021 where Lewis did not back off and they really ended up crashing.
@@LeongGunners You mean like in Silverstone where Ham was half a car behind and on the wrong racingline and shunted Verstappen off to then go and win the whole thing? 0p for Verstappen 25 for Ham. Fair racing i assume.
The thing I find most humorous is that Max is the first one to start crying when someone does exactly the same to him. In a few years Max will be mature and some other upstart will be the aggressive one everyone is talkin about. It's been that way since the 70s
He will never mature, he races like it's a video game and he's allowed to bump competidors out of the track and do his kamikaze dive bombs like an out of control battered ram headbutting everyone when he's in disadvantage.
Nope. Max doesn’t have the skill as Alonso was the antagonist back then. Max was the modern version of Alonso but Max with slow car is just the same as Mazepin.
I have rarely seen Lewis being aggressive during starts. Aggressive in the sense risking dnf for a couple of positions whereas the likes of max and Alonso would absolutely go if there is even a slight chance. It’s just their driving style it seems.
Max’s style is similar to a Senna and sometimes Schumacher. Thing is Lewis doesn’t always drive like that. In order to beat Max you have to adjust your style to be more aggressive. It would have been amazing to see Max Vs Senna and Schumacher. Actually they all won’t give an inch and might just crash every race 😅 I’m actually cheering on Max for the championship and will say Alonso is someone who will race Max like Max does if given the chance. That would be fun to watch.
Yet when Russell gave the same treatment to Max in the recent Baku race Max complained he was too aggressive in the first lap. I mean come on. Zero self awareness. He likes to give it but doesn't like taking it back.
@@isaacm2374 That is pure bs and you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The difference is that Max was on the inside line and was ahead while hitting the apex. George in Baku was behind, went too fast and completely missed the apex.
Have u ever seen a race of Michael or Senna ? Dude ur comparison is really really wrong. A lot of f1 fan nowadays just mention Senna like a kid in highschool mention his cool "friend".
You lot have no idea what you are talking about, you've watched 30 seconds of them taking each other out at the end of a season and think you can write a book - fools! Max is an arsehole, look how he disrespected his entire team on the radio then backs it up in the press as if he gets nothing wrong ever... Pure ballbag in the Monza clip, how does he expect to get through the chicane like that, idiot.
@@BostilCensurado Senna did the exact same thing, as did Schumacher. It's just playing chicken and putting other drivers in the position of trying to avoid a crash. Drivers should be punished more heavily for causing crashes, points docked etc.
@@intenzityd3181 You dont get it, Senna wanted to crash, he wasnt playing chicken, he 100% wanted a crash. He won two chamionships on f1 and f3 doing it.
Also this is one of the reasons Hamilton took the escape route in Abu Dhabi on lap 1. Since they were level on points and Max was ahead in the standings and he definitely didnt mind a DNF. Also Max thinks the rule giving a car's width of space to others doesnt apply to him. He did the same in Brazil. Kept pushing Lewis out.
I'm not super attuned to the history and complexities of why the racing rules they way that they are, and I used to think the same as you, but the rules actually give favor to the car on the inside line, and that car does not have to leave space for the car on the outside. The outside car is expected to back off because the inside like car cannot possibly make the corner while leaving space. Check out 2021 Imola that F1 posted on their RUclips channel. They actually discuss this exact scenario and how the rule favors the inside line, so given this, whether we believe it's fair or not, it's just strange how Lewis chose to not take that line and defend in these instances.
Lewis can't get 'pushed off' and cut the entire corner off, gain about a second ahead of max, and then get no repercussions for it. I guess losing the WDC was the repercussion.
That version of Lewis just came off after a very dominant 2020 season, that's why we often see him allow himself get manhandled through the braking zones and corners by Max because he conditioned himself to a car that can easily do its job well but when he realized he needs to be his old aggressive self and take risks again just like how he made Massa lose his mind in Monaco in 2011, it's too late because every risk he takes will always favor Max's favorable championship position. Sometimes, period of dominance will always have that pattern for a driver, the aggressive rise (Lewis' 2014-2017 season), absolute peak (2018-2020), and signs of weaknesses and cracks (2021-2022). He was so used to winning that he still believed at that point that the Red Bull car is still inferior but not anymore, like the Roman Empire, he didn't adapt that quick late in his era of dominance
Driving styles aside, this crash will always be remembered as the day Toto Wolff changed his opinion about the Halo. Prior to this accident, he hated the Halo so much he was willing to cut it off with a chainsaw.
It comes down to who has more to lose or the perceived more to lose, a driver isn't going to give a lesson if they don't want to lose the position they are in even if they let him pass.
that didn't happen. Lewis just didn't back off after that and Crashmax simply drove like a mad man anyway. I mean even Silverstone didn't stop him he just cried to his dad who cried to Horner who cried to the FIA who tried to tell Lewis that HE was being too aggressive . Hamilton said Fucyou too.
Nah because then he would’ve actually covered the inside, Lewis could’ve solved a lot of problems by doing that instead of racing like he had no competition, like he’d been doing a few years
@@hunterreeves6525 yeah lol covered himself that's what he did in Monza though and then max fanboys lost their shit on how could he be so aggressive defending haha and now when he doesn't he gets criticised anyway. You lot would be a disgrace to any kind of sport leave alone f1
@@bfa-xi1py not giving in every single time and standing up to bullying driving is what Hamilton did at Silverstone. He'd basically had had enough of being driven off the road. Still Max continued still, with Brazil being the most ridiculous piece of driving. Thankfully Max has calmed down a bit these days. It's racing, Silverstone was the culmination of saying I've had enough of this. I remember when Max used to late move on the straights to Kimi for example, it was the same, the other drivers got fed up with it.
Here now in the late 2024 time when Max is doing this sort of stuff against Norris a lot.. Seems his comments of "He didn't leave me any room!" which he said after that Monza incident dont apply to him, and they never have. People need to race Max a bit smarter though, dont try round his outside because it will never work. Use his defending against him and get him on the exit or the next straight, and if he blocks too much just "Copse" him when you've had enough
I don't get what is wrong with the imola one....max was clearly ahead before the corner, lewis made it a difficult situation by also braking pretty late trying to go on the outside of max while max closed the door which was completely okay
@@Jonathan-mj1oe Yes IMO Max is at fault for Imola and Lewis for Monza. Once someone is alongside you, you can’t just pinch them off the track, especially if it’s sausage curbs and gravel on the outside and not paved runoff
The Mercedes was the better race car in Spain 2021. The issue was track position meant a lot more in the previous regulations. You needed either a significant tire advantage or just outright significant pace advantage to overtake, which is what happened at the end of the race with Merc doing the obvious strategy given their driver couldn’t overtake on track on the same strategy with a faster car. Verstappens move is completely justified. He made Mercedes earn the win. Lewis left the door open and Max ran down the inside to take the lead. If Verstappen doesn’t lead at this point, it’s another lights to flag win for Hamilton. This is unlike Silverstone where Lewis had an acre of space to drive into but still drove into Max and celebrated like he had basically solved cancer. Right guy won the title. He was a step ahead of Hamilton the entire year.
It's not a guess, the faster side of the track with the most grip that opens up turn 1 is from the racing line, which Lewis started from... Max came left to open turn 1. It was smart.
Unfortunately as people know from karting, the fastest line isn't the best through the first corner at the start of the race, for the reason that Max demonstrates. You have to take a slower but more defensive line
There is a breed of drivers that invest in the "You back off or we crash" doctrine; Senna and Michael Schumacher both adopted it. Investing in a few crashes early on in the career seems to be enough to form a reputation and to plant the seed in the minds of other drivers when racing hard. Many of Verstappen's aggressive moves on Hamilton were when Hamilton was leading the Drivers Championship and so discretion kept Hamilton in the race and allowed him to keep accumulation points, with Verstappen at the time being the chasing driver he had little to lose. There will come a time when Verstappen may have to make the same calls as Hamilton, when finishing is more important to the Championship that winning, many people will call that maturity. At the moment Verstappen is going to push the boundaries, claim that all collisions are not his fault and project his aggressive style on whoever the other driver is. It is brilliant driving, but only if the other driver backs off, if they don't it is reckless. Case in point, Verstappen doesn't accept any criticism for weaving in front of Lando Norris, in the next race however, when Verstappen claims that Hamilton was weaving in front of Verstappen, he uses his weaving in the race before as an example of why it is wrong. In Verstappen's head, he is in the right when he is weaving, and also in the right when others are weaving in front of him.
I think hamilton net defending the inside of 1 makes sesnse because he probably wasn't expecting verstappen to go as deep and then he would have had the inside line for turn 2 which followed right after
Lewis seems like he does not care at least until Austin 2021,sometimes he defends the inside line sometimes he doesnt and gets a P2 and be like great job guys onto the next one😀
did we see the same video? are people actually willing to just ignore max driving him off the track? max fans cried so hard during brazil 2021 for lewis "not respecting max's corner" but when max drives hamilton off its due to hamilton's imcompetence in defending... what a joke
@@sean-pl3us not sure what you're on about with Brazil 2021, I assume you're referring to T4 where Max pushed him off track. In which case most Max fans will agree that he should have received a penalty there. Going back to this video though, what I commented is 100% accurate, there's countless times where Lewis should have defended the inside but didn't, which allows Max to be aggressive and chuck it up the inside. Lewis is known for taking wide lines and not defending the inside. And it aligns with how the Merc used to be designed, long wheel base, straight line speed etc. Here are some examples I can think of; Spain 2021, Imola 2021, Abu Dhabi 2021 I could go on
This proves how arrogant, unsporty, proud and dangerous that maniac crystappen is!!! Lewis had the Apex and crystappen should backed off!!! Cause of that crash crystappen stole the 21 championship!!! Lewis will always be remembered as the sportive GOAT!!! Crystappen as the maniac crybaby!!!
The logical guess to why Lewis didn't move over even though he was thoroughly checking his mirrors was because he wasn't 100% sure if he had the clearance to move right, Max was on his gearbox and imagine if there wasn't the room and Lewis just clipped off the front wing or worse took both drivers out. Everyone would lose their minds
Respect to Sir Lewis for driving cleanly. These cars can be seriously dangerous and it was lucky that Sir Lewis wasn’t injured when Max’s car parked on top of the Merc.
@@mmartijn78 I take it you weren’t paying attention to the video. Sir Lewis backed out multiple times to avoid a collision. If it wasn’t for the halo Max would have snapped Sir Lewis’ neck and we’d be mourning another avoidable death in Motorsport.
@@sunizzoF1 used to be an battling arena. The posibility of dying has always been there and been accepted by the drivers. And cheered on for by fans. Now all fans favouring certain drivers want to see is "safe driving". If you want to stay safe then just stay home. Max is an Alpha knowing danger lurks in every corner. The one who backs out , loses. Lewis was a Senna fan he always claims , yet it is Max driving like Senna.
@@vennemans9113 This is the type of language that gets people killed/seriously injured. You can drive safely and be still be a fierce competitor, but Max fans can't seem to understand that.
a) When You want to win a lot - You have to drive aggressive way b) If You drive aggressive way - sometimes You go too far - cause we are humans, not robots, and even robots makes mistakes when system fails + drivers aren't having comfy work ambient during race, they face pressure and adrenalina c) If low aggression in the grid - all the fans of F1 would say that F1 is too boring to watch d) some epic overtakes/battles are possible only if with some risk e) nobody is saint, if You post "crymilton" or "crystappen" in your comment - you show that your brain is ruled not by logic but by emotions, if you have emotional, rage moment in life - don't use internet - just take a walk in the park
@@larryoli1178 it's within the rules, so your agrument is kind of stupid. If you aren't agressive, the only way to pass another driver safely is with DRS run by. How fun would that be then?
Thats called the champions mentality. They are more calm and calculated than the average driver. Thats exactly what Max is doing now. Remember when he completely yielded when Lewis sent it at the Melbourne race start. WDCs have nothing to to prove by being reckless and hyper aggressive, thats what makes them special.
It's actually crazy how bad the driving standard from Verstappen was in 2021, its almost hard to watch now and wonder how he wasn't penalised and or banned for a race. Some of the moves are blatent disregard for anyones safety aswell as disregard for the fact that they're are other cars on track.
Just makes me think how much more successful Lewis would be over Max if they were riding MotoGP.......... mainly cuz Max would probably be a smudge on a sausage kerb somewhere.
hamilton drove the exact same way from 2007 until 2013-ish and probably wouldve done it the years after as well if there was any non-merc competition lol, they're both dirty drivers that win by pushing the edge of whats allowed and then blaming the fia when theyve clearly both been hugely favored throughout their careers. compare their driving style to other world champions like vettel, raikkonnen and button and you see a clear difference
'hamilton is a clean respectful driver'. Spit my coffee on this one. You either started watching F1 in 2021 or have dementia. Lewis is in no way clean. Go back to his rivalries with rosberg, Vettel and Alonso. His tactics were different but equally dirty.
Max is ahead at the apex and on the inside, he's allowed to do that. It's his corner at that point. Almost every driver does this... Monza is a completely seperate issue because he isn't ahead. Decide for yourself who is wrong in that scenario, they both could've done things better there imo.
I think everyone here who has been watching F1 for years and really understands the sport, can say how 2021 championship was manipulated. Hamilton deserved that one and I'm an Alonso fan.
What was he supposed to do? The RB was just quicker on the straights (thanks to flexi wings) and Max was determined to 'send it' because it was his only chance to get ahead as Merc was just quicker in race trim. Lewis played it safe and got rewarded afterwards.
This is Max knowing the RB was not as good as the Mercedes. He knew he had to be in front. The last few years you've seen the other side of Max knowing the RB is the class of the field. Suddenly he became a much more patient driver.
Ignore these races and focus on the bigger picture. Lewis’s racing in the last few races of the season, closing the gap on Verstappen, was some of the most brilliant driving ever in F1. He had a skilful, aggressive opponent who really wanted to cause a crash between them - Hamilton needed to keep winning by this point, DNF’s for both of them suited Verstappen- so he had to find ways to get past a fast, skilful, cynical opponent. It was almost impossible but he kept doing it! So that with a few laps to go in the final race in Abu Dhabi he was about to pull off the greatest driving achievement in F1 history. 2021 season would have gone down as one of the sport’s greatest moments. Enter Masi, Horner etc. - from the highest pinnacle in F1 to one of the lowest points in the history of live broadcast sport, all in a few appalling minutes. It was actually the brilliance of Hamilton’s driving in the last quarter of the season that made the grotesque debacle of Abu Dhabi even worse from a sporting point of view. It also trashed Max’s reputation for the wrong reasons - his reputation should have been damaged because of his actual driving that season, not because of FIA-Redbull corruption.
@@FormulaZyn You obviously do. Thank you for taking the time to read such a long comment. And then for troubling yourself to reply. You’ve made my day. Knowing that deep down Verstappen fans acknowledge the truth in their own hearts. Otherwise they wouldn’t respond at all. It pleases me that your conscience is still troubled by the Abu Dhabi obscenity. You should be proud. The fact that it is still niggling at you is a very good testament to your character. Well done.
@@FormulaZyn Too late. You revealed your true self with the last comment. Even though you didn’t realise. But I’m guessing you’re not too smart and stupid people rarely have much self understanding. But I’ll say it again - you showed the best of your character by taking the time out of your day to read and respond to my first comment. There’s good in there, you just have to find it.
Lewis sees every race a marathon and there is no point of getting the car damaged in the first lap. His mentality is ok you go now I will catch you later but he got it wrong with Max. The second part “I will catch you later” didn’t happen. Max is super Max. As usual.
The first two examples are completely different to the last one. In the last one Lewis had cold tires while Max had warm tires, so obviously Max had a lot more grib, then it's just better to let Max pass. Lewis decided to not do that and rather block and crash into Max. After the race Lewis also made a whole show about it acting like Max was doing dangerous things, in reality it was Lewis who did all the dangerous things.
Also Brazil 2022 Max and Lewis on Senna S where it was Ocon and Mad respectively in 2018. Lewis didn't give the space and Max complained he wasn't given any while in 2018 he did the same and blamed Ocon who had nowhere to go cause he was on the inside of the turn. Meanwhile, in 2018 Max was on the outside and had plenty of space to use so he wouldn't touch with Ocon, yet he didn't do it.
Which is why anyone who blamed Lewis for 2022 automatically must say Max was in the wrong for 2018 Which anyone with working eyes would know that’s incorrect and Ocon was the one at fault in 2018
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 he closed the door to ocon while on the outside. It's basically like the meme with the dude with the bike. Max sabotaged himself by turning into ocon because either he didn't see him or he didn't give the space intentionally, then blamed Ocon for ruining his race.
The halo really saved Lewis head in Monza. The wheel touched his head but didn't crush him thanks to that protection. Even at low speed a F1 can really lift in tgw air without that much trouble.
Part 2: Lewis VS Max on Bahrain Lewis VS Max on Portugal Lewis VS Max on USA Alonso did the same in Hungary against Hamilton as well. I particularly think this is a little dirty game, but this type of movement is quite common, leaving your opponent trapped between losing a position or the race, I just don't understand how the 7x champion Lewis can't do the X in those Verstappen usual dives, Leclerc in Bahrain and Austria in 2022 for example, he resumed the position right after Verstappen dived.
@@lRedKill3r don't know if I can agree with you, but what I think: If you have a driver who is extremely aggressive who is willing to dive in a way that will throw you off the track, why are you going to do a side-by-side corner with it after a stronger braking? It's literally IMPOSSIBLE for the guy to dive into the corner like that and get out of it with good speeds, So it would be smarter for you to hold the brake longer and prepare good traction to pass it back. Abu Dhabi 2021 is an interesting example. Max X Lewis On first Lap: Max dove and put 2 wheels over the white line, and Lewis went off track trying to do side-by-side. Checo VS Lewis on Lap 20: It was the exact same dive, and Lewis just held the brakes longer and made a perfect exit out of the corner. The exit was so strong and so fast that he ended up giving the DRS back to Perez. it's okay that in this situation the Checo was smart and didn't accelerate just thinking about that strategy, But can you understand what I mean? You don't have to take the risk of being on the outside in a corner with an extremely aggressive driver on the inside willing to throw you away.
He can’t face a clean challenge, it’s either his way or no other way. Which is bad, that’s not how it is to be a racing driver, have more confidence in your driving capability to overtaking clean whether on the inside or outside, but don’t drive off the driver ahead of you just so you get track position. You can say whatever you want but, that’s not fighting fair, it’s aggressive driving.
To be honest, he knew he could do these kind of things to Hamilton because he always backs out. If this was Leclerc for example he would not have done this because he knows Leclerc would not back out that easily and they probably crash.
verstappen can only race the way he does because he is the only one doing it. If everyone raced like him we would just have 20 car pile ups at the start of every grand prix.
(I have 20+ years of racing under my belt) He did not necessarily hand Max the line. Hamilton was technically on the racing line (not always the same as the inside line). Max took the inside line and used the usual racing line against Lewis to ice him out during the 2nd part of the chicane where the transition would put Max on the racing line during the 2nd part of the chicane. Many drivers have done this strategy. It is not an easy situation for either driver, it was more of a split second calculation by both. Max made his move work, that's racing.
This why i stop watching f1 ! This guy has to be into jail for murder attempts, i say attempts because there where so many! Such a driving should not be allowed especially when the entire world watch ! Is disgrace to the sport!!!
funny how the Max fans think, when he does these moves to others it's not his fault he''s "racing" but when others do it to him they lose their minds. it's almost a blessing he's not having any close competition at the moment, him and hamilton could of had some really nasty accidents during that season.
Lewis lack of defense makes it easy for Max to overtake. This is not an aggressive style, this is just racing. In very many occasions, Lewis could avoid a collision if he had some proper defense prior to overtake. On the other hand, Max could avoid collisions also by not trying to overtake where the chance of collision is high
Not at all. This is more than an aggressive style, it's wreckless and dangerous. This isn't racing, and the only thing saving him from these situations this year is the rocketship he's been provided with. I appreciate you're a dutch fanboy and as such unable to form an unbiased opinion, but try to understand, this isn't racing. Verstappen is a liability for all.
A different comment from me. We all know the aggressiveness of MV, and how tha pace of Mercedes for LH worked for him so he could avoid any clashes. Don't forget that in 2021 due to covid, it was an extra year in old rules, clearly favoring the high-rake (Redbull), smaller (Redbull) monocoques. It was a year that the laws were bent to stop mercedes streak. So it was an extra motivative factor for RB and MV to be more and more aggressive. If 2021 was a Mercedes trophy again, that would be devastative for RB which got whatever they asked to become title competitors.
Safety car's telemetry and how hard it's pushing: ruclips.net/video/AWr4wuklgZM/видео.html
Clownstappen
2:10 is a completely different situation compared to the first two, at 2:10 Verstappen had 1 lap old warm tires, while Lewis had new cold tires, so obviously Max was way way way faster at that moment and had much more grip, he could easely brake way later and Lewis was essentially just not doing a smart move and steering into Verstappen on top of it all.
0:40 Lewis probably didn't expect Max do shift this perfect, the Mercedes was the faster car, Lewis probably expected to only give Max a free slipstream if he moved in front of him. Max somehow managed to speed up perfectly and braked later on top of it, then there's only one way, back of. I think that Lewis should have given him the slipstream, then Max would probably have had to back of himself and then Lewis had an easy pass.
1:26 - 1:31 Max was in front the entire time, Lewis trying to overtake him on the outside just ain't a smart move (all over again), anyone with a bit of racing experience should know that, it seems like Lewis is simply not used to overtaking or beïng overtaken, he really drives like an unexperienced driver.
@@AAb-xy6et i mean, just because "it isnt a smart move" doesnt mean a driver isnt allowed to try, nor that the defending driver is allowed to shut off the door
@@lRedKill3r Which one you mean? In both situations Lewis was hopeless and actually lucky with the endresult.
I think lewis didn't defend because his start wasn't great and wanted the clean sidethe track
I am sure this comment section is going to be very peaceful 🕊️
😂 u are a funny man man
Yeah it gonna be "totally" peaceful comments section 😂😂
Hamilton fans, F1 Sky Sport employees and DTS newbie idiots on full throttle to hate on Max Verstappen. These people really are pathetic and is making this sport worse than ever before
Im with you on that its gonna be like "max should have" or "lewis should have" 😂😂😂
CRASHSTAPPEN
Verstappen drives like me in the f1 game with limitless flashbacks and no strict rules
You make 80 millions a year too?
Probably there's a slight difference.
@@justlovelyaintit there's a big different between real life and game if you didn't know that. Max always drive like he's the only one on track, another one is George Russell he caused a collision many times and just blame another driver at false.
He's driving like this only while facing Hamilton
@@justlovelyaintit did you evrn read his comment retard got offended by a simple joke
@@Raiden_FactoryOnly difference is Max doesn't crash as often and is actually winning
From what I see, Hamilton seems to put a lot of trust on his clean air pace and their pit strategy that he’s always “just trying to survive Verstappen” first half of 2021 season.
Except for Silverstone 2021, where he saw in the sprint race, if he let Verstappen got away on round one, he will never see him again. He therefore understeered into Verstappen, the Red Bull ender up into the wall, Verstappen to the hospital, and Red Bull overspending their budget to fix the car, something that they are still paying for today. For his trouble LH got a 10 sec penalty in a car that could easily win that race by 30 seconds
@@beerstein7137 🤡
@@beerstein7137 Lewis causes a collision and got the necessary penalty lmao what are you crying about, in fact 10 seconds is quite high for a causing a collision penalty
@@beerstein7137 Max could have avoided that crash (like lewis did in brazil 21), but Max fans cant stop crying a river since 2 years about something he was partly to blame.
@@beerstein7137 and then hamilton celebrate like he win through a really hard race
meanwhile george the one that hamilton fans deemed as evil doer after causing crash on silverstone 2022 he get out the car to check zhou is okay
meanwhile hamilton : HE HIT US FIRST
2024 and it's Lando who is getting the Verstappen special
Sbd he whined like little British bitch. Lol
@@ShaggyRodgers420 Oh the FIA, what an upstanding organisation :)
@@ShaggyRodgers420 RePlY WiTh YoUr ExcUsEs bla bla bla lmao
@@ShaggyRodgers420 it's clear that once Max's car is underperforming he gets his elbows out and that's ok i mean that's why he is one of the best, but sometimes he makes "Back off or we both crash" decisions which is something that works just fine in karting, but in F1 you might actually kill someone you dimwit, now watch how the FIA will discipline both Red Bull and Max.
@@ShaggyRodgers420 whatever gets you thru the night bro
verstappen did it many times in 2018 ~ 20, the difference is that hamilton knew that his car was much better so there was no reason to be agressive too if in some laps he could overtake him easily, from 2021 it was not the same anymore and if he kept letting max by he would lose the championship, now i think its the opposite, max know his car is much better so he is less agressive, a example of this is australia 2023 when lewis was agressive but max overtook him without any difficulty with drs because of this car difference. So (in my opinion) they play their games relative with the machinery, now its lewis turn.
Australia '23 wasn't even an agressive move, Max left the door open. Lewis overtook him and left him space on the exit. Compare this to some of the clips from this video and it's a night-and-day difference. At the end of the day, the way you overtake is a conscious decision, Hamilton's early years in F1 weren't agressive (particularly when battling Vettel and Webber's RBs or Kimi and Massa's Ferraris) and even now with, on average, the 3rd/4th fastest car, I haven't seen him send any kamikaze moves on anyone.
It's can be frustrating to watch Max pull off a kamikaze overtake on a driver you support but I don't think Max should be blamed as, at the end of the day, the FIA's ruleset allowed (and still allow) Max to drive in the way he does. All annoyance should be directed to them.
Edit: This comment was written in response to Jonathan's opinion that drivers only drive agressively when their cars are slower than the people they're racing with. In it, I refer to the seasons Lewis competed for the WDC at McLaren ('07, '08, '10, '12) as evidence that (imo) Jonathan's take is wrong and that this trend is more specific to Max than anyone. [Alonso @ Ferrari '10, '12, Kimi @ Ferrari '07 are other good examples].
Hamilton wasn't fighting Massa for the championship in '11 and so comments pointing out that they collided a lot aren't a relevant rebuttal to my comment.
@@danielo7985 i mean tbf his early years at mclaren were pretty aggressive nonetheless, especially during the silver war era when he was battling against nico too (2014-2016). Im not saying one is worse but they both definitely drive aggressive till they have a good car under them
@@gabechase2030 It seems very difficult to be multi-year champion with a pair of perfectly clean hands.
@@arFung0420 oh yeah without a doubt i mean if you name one champ like that then id give you $100 because it takes EVERYTHING to win especially coming from nothing with nothing. People are the most dangerous when they have nothing to lose. Im not saying one is worse than the other im just stating that they gave it there all, there was aggression, there was battles, etc.
@@danielo7985lewis in his early mclaren days specially in 2011 was even worse than max, he crashed into massa like 6, 7 times in a roll with kamikaze moves, in this case was not even a machenery thing because his mclaren was pretty decent, was just moves that didn't make any sense, max was like this in 2016~2020 specially in 2018 so they are no angels, probably they created a different mindset about being relative with the scenario and knowing that they shouldn't be that agressive all the time
If Max raced himself in 2021 he would've crashed way more times. It's visibly obvious that most times it was Lewis who avoids Max's aggressive moves, especially at the starts, and the few times where he decides he's going to be aggressive too, they end up crashing, and that's what F1 fans focus on
Well there is less need for agresivness when your car is faster.
@@mpn009 fanboy do lixostappen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mpn009 have you even watched Hamilton race before 2021? Or 2020?
“It's not important how we play. If you have a Ferrari and I have a small car, to beat you in a race I have to break your wheel or put sugar in your tank.” - José
@@mpn009 Aah yes, the small difference between being agressive and leaving NO space for the other car that Max will never learn
I like how somewhere in the season, lewis said enough. And they started colliding every race almost. Lewis should have been aggresive from the season start. But he let himself get bullied in the first half.
@@travisfubu9053 couldn't agree more and even though the consequences of that crash could've been catastrophic, I had little sympathy for max, he had been doing this for years, he was crashstappen in '17-'18 ffs, people forget
@@j2jwhatsapp i could have sworn hamilton lsot the 2021 wdc, oh well
@@j2jwhatsapp Yes Max had some crashes when he was young but so had Lewis. People forget about it. Even last year in Spa with Alonso and remember the collisions with Albon. So don't blame Max, Lewis was an aggressive driver as well when he was young.
@@j2jwhatsapp Lewis his big hero is mister Senna.... Senna was far more agressive.... so i think, Lewis is max his biggest fan😂
@@yoran1784 ofc Lewis is aggressive and he's had crashes, but to compare that to max is stupid. Never in his career has Lewis been accused of being dangerous like max though and there isn't a debate. I mean Adrian newey confessed that max brake tested Lewis in Saudi '21 and you're here defending what exactly ? Every F1 driver at some point is guilty of being aggressive, but very few had the reputation of being dangerous like max.
It's an intimidation game. Most drivers back off but Verstappen and Hamilton are both dominant drivers.
i cant stand hamilton, but he is very much the more mature driver for obvious reasons.
but if everyone backed off at every corner, then f1 would be even more boring.
we need drivers like verstappen as well as the old heads
@@mowvuI feel like we will see a lot of collisions involving Lando and Russel v Verstappen. They don’t have the cool head and experience of Lewis and they won’t back out when Verstappen does his usual
@@mowvuyou said we need more drivers like verstappen, but when someone drives like verstappen, the only choice the other drivers have is to back off.
@@mowvu verstappen miles better, he will end up with 10 championships
@@JajajacoSpoti123 not looking good for next year tho lad. rbr got a lot of work to do. not just the chassis/engine degrading, but the amount of staff they've had pinched by other teams.
same exact decline happened to merc. I'm a neutral that likes nobody and extremely dislikes hamilton, window licker and zhou so popcorn will be ready come march
Can we all agree that the Halo definitely saved Lewis’s life
No
@@elessar5848?
@@isaacsanchez7317ignore him, his just an idiot hater
Poor Lewis 🤣
@@p_m_a That’s a great point and I hear you but in my opinion it looks as if the wheel if the halo had not been there would’ve landed straight on Lewis’s head, in fact I think slightly makes contact with the very top of his helmet even with the halo
I know exactly why Lewis backed off in Spain, in 2016 Nico did a similar start, Lewis however covered the inside allowing Nico to go around the outside of Lewis. Learning from his mistake then he learned holding the inside line may not have been his best option I guess.
i dont think that the mistake. nico just braking late and go futher ahead than lewis on that turn..then lewis got better traction on that turn 2 and got better speed on turn 3 while nico engines in incorrect setting. derated..
@@mohdmusifbinmohdkassim8737 Lewis Hamilton still took Nico Rosberg out
@@tomknight3243 yeah in your opinion its true.
tbf in Spain you can overtake someone on both the outside and inside
If Lewis gives Max the inside for 1, and Max races fairly (aka, leaving a car's width on the outside), Lewis would have the line for 2. Defending the inside isn't always better in a fast chicane like that. Look at the move Checo pulled on, I think it was Carlos? when he braked later on an outside line and just plum drove round him.
We all know Lewis almost always not trying to defend the inside line, because he like his "Switch-back" move which is very effective in the past especially againts Rosberg
yes, i actually agree with this. i believe it never against max because max was much better at maintaining his speed out of the corner than rosberg. even to this day, you'll see max always prioritizing corner exit speed, even at cost of a much slower entry than normal.
@@fruitygranulizer540 Not really, the switch back almost never works on Verstappen because he blocks the other car. It's not illegal, since he owns the corner, it's just annoying to the other driver since he is giving space.
Lewis loves inside line so that the can conveniently understeer and take someone out, with himself gain positions often his own car intact. Whereas Max, often either crash himself alone, or take someone out with him, don't from the crash benefit himself. Max really need to learn from Lewis how to take opponent out and gain advantage at the same time, that's why Lewis is GOAT, able using all tricks to his advantage, super good at politics and off grid media propaganda. Max still got a lot to learn from Lewis (who is a more complete package). Max is still naive, pure love of racing (hobby is still Sim Racing lol), and bloody direct that spit out anything he thought.
I think there are no innocent racing drivers isn't, they use tricks just to gain advantage, just like in life@@ZiYiYeap
But for switchbacks u need some space and max certainly won't give that
You have to see all these situations in the context of the championship standings etc.. If you do then it all makes sense why Lewis did and did not back off and why Max didn't back off at Monza.. Same with the Silverstone 2021 incident, that crash had everything to do with what happened a day earlier in the sprintrace.. Same with Senna vs Prost in Japan 1990 and I could go on and on.. Context is everything to understand why drivers act like they do..
Yes, silverstone silverstone… that’s is always the answer right?
Glad we can agree on the fact that LH was to blame for the Silverstone crash 👊
there is no context for verstappen, he cant race lol
Verstappen is an arse who has no place within a sport for gentleman. Context has nothing to do with it.
@@quietus5077 3 time f1 world champion can't drive... thanks for that input
Why Tsunoda got a penalty for a similar maneuver is beyond me. This clip shows easily how Zhou could have made the corner. And Max came in way harder than Tsunoda did.
Tsunoda got the penalty rightly. It was wrong that Max didn't get it
@@HaydenLau.What an utter topl
Max was ahead already in the corner. Lewis brakes too early and gives up the place its a skill issue really.
@@DevilWolf000 they're basically alongside in the corner. Max breaks too late because he goes deep into the corner. If lewis didn't give up max was going to crash into him. No skill issue, it's called having brain cells.
@@dankmemesstudios3987 before they started braking he was already ahead. Max had alot better start are you blind ?
Lewis is always worried about wrecking his car. Max drives like Lewis now because he has something to lose now.
He always drove like that since his debut
"drives like lewis"? What that is supposed to mean? He doesn't take risks? That's not what I saw in Monaco a few days ago.
You are forgetting 1 big thing: Max does improve in Sims, that's nothing Lulu ever liked to do. So he's in constant improving and learning what he can do next, and with the fastest car, it's an easier job.
It's not the same driving when he had less power/performance car, but even that he's still dominant and not only by his car.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 imagine if Lewis left all this celebrity stuff and focused on sim racing and racing 24/7 like Max,imagine he went karting a lot,he would beat everyone easily lol,Lewis is arguably the best driver on the grid rn,or 2nd and thats without him being 100% invested in racing he does a lot of stuff out of it
He’s always driven a lot like Hamilton. In his 2015-2021 days he drove like Hamilton from 2007-2016. Now he often drives like Hamilton from 2017 onwards.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 Verstappen is just a dirty driver, deal with it
They were matched in quali but it was nearly impossible for the RB to pass a merc with the straight line deficit in the dirty air era, without draining the battery or being on a different tyre strat. Catching Bottas in Russia being the notable exception. The car that's quicker in the corners is more affected by front deg because fronts are crucial in extracting its laptime and are pushed more, whereas the car with better top speed doesn't lose a massive amount of laptime due to front deg.
That applied to all the cars. Recently re watched the 2021 season and both Max and Lewis were stuck behind the McLaren cars in the Monza race. They couldn't get past for the entire firsts stint. And of course that is why they had to put Max and that famous collision happend. The same in Sochi when Hamilton was stuck behind Norris for 20 laps and Lando would have won if the rain didn't come. It's was just harder to follow in those cars with the dirty air without a huge pace deficit.
i kind of stopped watching F1 after 2016 until 2021. so im not sure if this was an actual thing during those years. but technically a car that has higher downforce (being faster in turns, but slower on the straights) has lower degradation of the tires in the turns because you slide less. unless the mercedes willingly backed off during turns and made that time back on the straights. that wouldnt be a car characteristic but a driver tactic though.
The merc has always been worse than the red bull in dirty air lol. Red bulls high rake concept gives more front downforce and therefore less likely to lose grip when following a car. You know nothing
Of course when max leaves no spaces (which he does really often) it's totally fine for him and the other driver has to back of, but when he gets no space, the thought backing of doesn't even go through his brain, causing a collision
Well he’s smart while executing it though. He only did it against his championship rival and when he has the championship lead 😂 basically saying “I don’t mind crashing if you don’t back off”
You mean just like Hamilton has been doing for years.
@@SuperWillEvans Not even remotely. No one considers Lewis a dangerous driver .... if Max has any remote form of competition... there will be a crash if they don't back off. He's a TERRIBLE wheel to wheel racer.
@@Ohtani9999pretty sure he did it to most drivers, most people are just safer. Not a great trait.
@@SuperWillEvans Very dumb comment. Verstappen dick rider.
I used to think Monza '21 was Hamilton's fault, but the point that Verstappen put Ricciardo in the same exact situation earlier in the race and Danny backed out made me change my mind
Max could've killed Lewis without the halo. The guy's a reckless idiot
Lewis didnt leave a cars width on entry to turn2 so its his fault. It was Maxs turn with over 80% of the car alongside.
@@kondjedes4866 Who did get a penalty for the next race?
@@masantoz And who ignored the blue flag warnings?
@@kondjedes4866 100 % verstappens fault even if hamilton gave him room, which he wasnt obligated to do he was still way too deep from T1 and going to launch off the kerb and across the track, and i like both drivers tbh
Max will complain if someone plays his own move on him
yep like australia 23
Max is just a kid😂
@@deejoegaming6258 He's in arguably the highest seat in all of motorsports. The "he's just a kid" argument does'nt really apply anymore.
@@sethchristensenracinges un niño enrabietado. Si le hacen lo mismo se queja
lewis trash
When you look at Max Vs. Lewis and compare it with his battles with Ricciardio, Leclerc etc. you can see how much Lewis lets himself get bullied.
I feel like if he just covered his line a lot of the incidents and times he got overtaken wouldn’t have happened in 2021.
Yep, people talk about how much Max is a bully when overtaking, but ignore that Lewis is one of the most passive drivers when defending. He puts himself in these situations with Max, specially when you compare to guys like Charles or George that defend and block much earlier, and make Max have a way harder time overtaking
I feel like part of this is due to the fact that he got used to being so much faster than everyone else that he wasn't expecting red bull to be at an equal level.
I think they just have a different understanding on what's fair in a race. Not just Max vs Lewis, it's more like the new gen drivers vs older drivers. You watch how Kimi raced, even going through corners, if there's a car beside him, he'd leave enough space for both of them to get through. Max (and Leclerc) would just run you off track the moment (he feels) he is 1 inch ahead.
I remember there were a couple times towards the second half of 2021 where Lewis did not back off and they really ended up crashing.
@@LeongGunners You mean like in Silverstone where Ham was half a car behind and on the wrong racingline and shunted Verstappen off to then go and win the whole thing? 0p for Verstappen 25 for Ham. Fair racing i assume.
Lulu is used to just drive away in superior car. If he had equal car like others then he crashed like crazy.
The thing I find most humorous is that Max is the first one to start crying when someone does exactly the same to him. In a few years Max will be mature and some other upstart will be the aggressive one everyone is talkin about. It's been that way since the 70s
if he lives that long
He will never mature, he races like it's a video game and he's allowed to bump competidors out of the track and do his kamikaze dive bombs like an out of control battered ram headbutting everyone when he's in disadvantage.
Nope. Max doesn’t have the skill as Alonso was the antagonist back then. Max was the modern version of Alonso but Max with slow car is just the same as Mazepin.
Max will never mature and won't ever evolve into an Alonso.
Max will never mature, it is in his nature.
Reminds me the story of the
frog and the scorpion.
I have rarely seen Lewis being aggressive during starts. Aggressive in the sense risking dnf for a couple of positions whereas the likes of max and Alonso would absolutely go if there is even a slight chance. It’s just their driving style it seems.
Lewis had a car capable of winning for a majority of his career, so why risk a dnf, he would catch you anyway. Like max does nowadays.
@@hb-kw4mr 100% true and that's why Lewis is never aggressive.
F1 is so much better with aggressive drivers. I love it.
@@shenalashendra4513 he was in 2011 though, he was a menace that year.
Check out the silver war
Max’s style is similar to a Senna and sometimes Schumacher. Thing is Lewis doesn’t always drive like that. In order to beat Max you have to adjust your style to be more aggressive. It would have been amazing to see Max Vs Senna and Schumacher. Actually they all won’t give an inch and might just crash every race 😅
I’m actually cheering on Max for the championship and will say Alonso is someone who will race Max like Max does if given the chance. That would be fun to watch.
Yet when Russell gave the same treatment to Max in the recent Baku race Max complained he was too aggressive in the first lap. I mean come on. Zero self awareness. He likes to give it but doesn't like taking it back.
@@isaacm2374 That is pure bs and you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The difference is that Max was on the inside line and was ahead while hitting the apex. George in Baku was behind, went too fast and completely missed the apex.
Schumacher and Senna actually had a lot of battles. And no, they didn't crash every time)
Have u ever seen a race of Michael or Senna ? Dude ur comparison is really really wrong. A lot of f1 fan nowadays just mention Senna like a kid in highschool mention his cool "friend".
@@hoya1178 George wasn't behind .......George was wheel to wheel and had the inside line
that is exactly how he was driving that season, dirty driver.
It's exactly the kind of strategy that Ayrton Senna also took with his adversaries. It pays off when your compatitor feelds to be decent.
Senna was crashing on purpose, he literally drove into Prost at least 3 times. Verstappen is just aggressive. Its not the same at all.
You lot have no idea what you are talking about, you've watched 30 seconds of them taking each other out at the end of a season and think you can write a book - fools! Max is an arsehole, look how he disrespected his entire team on the radio then backs it up in the press as if he gets nothing wrong ever... Pure ballbag in the Monza clip, how does he expect to get through the chicane like that, idiot.
@@BostilCensurado Senna did the exact same thing, as did Schumacher. It's just playing chicken and putting other drivers in the position of trying to avoid a crash. Drivers should be punished more heavily for causing crashes, points docked etc.
@@intenzityd3181 You dont get it, Senna wanted to crash, he wasnt playing chicken, he 100% wanted a crash. He won two chamionships on f1 and f3 doing it.
Also this is one of the reasons Hamilton took the escape route in Abu Dhabi on lap 1. Since they were level on points and Max was ahead in the standings and he definitely didnt mind a DNF. Also Max thinks the rule giving a car's width of space to others doesnt apply to him. He did the same in Brazil. Kept pushing Lewis out.
I'm not super attuned to the history and complexities of why the racing rules they way that they are, and I used to think the same as you, but the rules actually give favor to the car on the inside line, and that car does not have to leave space for the car on the outside. The outside car is expected to back off because the inside like car cannot possibly make the corner while leaving space. Check out 2021 Imola that F1 posted on their RUclips channel. They actually discuss this exact scenario and how the rule favors the inside line, so given this, whether we believe it's fair or not, it's just strange how Lewis chose to not take that line and defend in these instances.
No because he did exactly the same thing with sainz at AD one year later
Max races within the rules, you should really read up on them.
Lewis can't get 'pushed off' and cut the entire corner off, gain about a second ahead of max, and then get no repercussions for it. I guess losing the WDC was the repercussion.
@PurelyPog max pushed hin wide 🤡 just like he did inin Brazil Italy Spain Jeddah with no repercussions. Lewis won in 2021
I'm more impressed by the 6 seconds 0-150 MPH. Just ridiculous how fast an F1 car truly is....
Insane! Turning corners at 200kph+ like it’s a residential street
Also Ayrton senna and micheal Schumacher style
😂😂
The GOATS
@@georgeb9088 the goats of hitting other people lmao
Edit: IT WAS A JOKE THEY ARE GOOD DRIVERS I WAS NOT BEING SERIOUS
@@oliverwilson999 Cry me a river.
@@oliverwilson999 found the dts clown
That version of Lewis just came off after a very dominant 2020 season, that's why we often see him allow himself get manhandled through the braking zones and corners by Max because he conditioned himself to a car that can easily do its job well but when he realized he needs to be his old aggressive self and take risks again just like how he made Massa lose his mind in Monaco in 2011, it's too late because every risk he takes will always favor Max's favorable championship position. Sometimes, period of dominance will always have that pattern for a driver, the aggressive rise (Lewis' 2014-2017 season), absolute peak (2018-2020), and signs of weaknesses and cracks (2021-2022). He was so used to winning that he still believed at that point that the Red Bull car is still inferior but not anymore, like the Roman Empire, he didn't adapt that quick late in his era of dominance
Driving styles aside, this crash will always be remembered as the day Toto Wolff changed his opinion about the Halo. Prior to this accident, he hated the Halo so much he was willing to cut it off with a chainsaw.
lmao, you think toto saw the spa crash with alonso and leclerc in i believe 2018, magnussen in bahrain and thought: "yeah still dont like it"
yelistener after dropping this video: 😏🍿
"Oh the drama!"
Simple to fix Max’s attitude. Just don’t back off. After 2 or 3 races he will either change or the FIA will punish him.
It comes down to who has more to lose or the perceived more to lose, a driver isn't going to give a lesson if they don't want to lose the position they are in even if they let him pass.
Everyone has something to lose. Their lives in particular.
@@graycleary you would be surprised how little fear race drivers have regarding that.
that didn't happen. Lewis just didn't back off after that and Crashmax simply drove like a mad man anyway. I mean even Silverstone didn't stop him he just cried to his dad who cried to Horner who cried to the FIA who tried to tell Lewis that HE was being too aggressive . Hamilton said Fucyou too.
@@jussayinmipeece1069 Silverstone was Hamiltons fault though, he understeered into max who left enough room.
I love these engine sounds, the aggressive growl of the Mercedes and the really loud turbo on the Honda
Sounds like my dishwasher. Which maybe is more of a comment about Hotpoint more so then anything else
That's not the turbo making that noise lol
He watched too many Senna videos
High risk and high rewards.
Silverstone or Imola. Both are racers and they are on top of their game
If Verstappen raced a clone of himself in 2021, he would have crashed out in half the races.
Same for senna and Schumacher lol
Nah because then he would’ve actually covered the inside, Lewis could’ve solved a lot of problems by doing that instead of racing like he had no competition, like he’d been doing a few years
If the same was for Lewis hamilton, they both get killed by each other
@@hunterreeves6525 yeah lol covered himself that's what he did in Monza though and then max fanboys lost their shit on how could he be so aggressive defending haha and now when he doesn't he gets criticised anyway. You lot would be a disgrace to any kind of sport leave alone f1
@@hunterreeves6525Lewis covers the inside then Max piles into him like Monza and Brazil 2022
Wow incredible footage. 👏
That Monza example. Without halo, Hamilton would be dead and Max would have to live with that for the rest of his life. Nope im not exaggerating.
@@bfa-xi1py Didn't they go car racing?
@@bfa-xi1py not giving in every single time and standing up to bullying driving is what Hamilton did at Silverstone. He'd basically had had enough of being driven off the road. Still Max continued still, with Brazil being the most ridiculous piece of driving.
Thankfully Max has calmed down a bit these days. It's racing, Silverstone was the culmination of saying I've had enough of this. I remember when Max used to late move on the straights to Kimi for example, it was the same, the other drivers got fed up with it.
Here now in the late 2024 time when Max is doing this sort of stuff against Norris a lot.. Seems his comments of "He didn't leave me any room!" which he said after that Monza incident dont apply to him, and they never have.
People need to race Max a bit smarter though, dont try round his outside because it will never work. Use his defending against him and get him on the exit or the next straight, and if he blocks too much just "Copse" him when you've had enough
I don't get what is wrong with the imola one....max was clearly ahead before the corner, lewis made it a difficult situation by also braking pretty late trying to go on the outside of max while max closed the door which was completely okay
This is not racing; leave a car’s width and fight fairly. FIA needs to re-establish that precedent.
In Imola Lewis was ahead in t2, Max did not leave him room, forcing Lewis on the bumps
In Monza Lewis was ahead in t2, Max pushed on
racing inshident
I like Max’s aggression sometimes but it’s annoying how drivers nowadays push people off even though they are fully alongside
@@bogdanconstantin5911 Yet max got a punishment in monza, fia inconsistency at display
@@Jonathan-mj1oe Yes IMO Max is at fault for Imola and Lewis for Monza. Once someone is alongside you, you can’t just pinch them off the track, especially if it’s sausage curbs and gravel on the outside and not paved runoff
@@acasale25 Yeah my opinion its racing, but at least the penalties should be the same.
I do the same in F1 games! Bet I can become a F1 champion any time soon!
It's a joke how Verstappen never gets penalized. F1 is a joke that robbed Lewis.
Halo saved Hamiltons life for sure!
The Mercedes was the better race car in Spain 2021. The issue was track position meant a lot more in the previous regulations. You needed either a significant tire advantage or just outright significant pace advantage to overtake, which is what happened at the end of the race with Merc doing the obvious strategy given their driver couldn’t overtake on track on the same strategy with a faster car.
Verstappens move is completely justified. He made Mercedes earn the win. Lewis left the door open and Max ran down the inside to take the lead.
If Verstappen doesn’t lead at this point, it’s another lights to flag win for Hamilton.
This is unlike Silverstone where Lewis had an acre of space to drive into but still drove into Max and celebrated like he had basically solved cancer.
Right guy won the title. He was a step ahead of Hamilton the entire year.
Tell me you didn't watch and understand the video without telling me you didn't watch and understand the video. Clown.
@THM2008 tell me you have no racing experience.
I'm a pro sim racer and unlike you idiots, I actually know racing.
@@THM2008 Yet he was right on every point lmaoo
no because lewis verified max was ok before celebrating@@folkert2938
@@THM2008 Lmao,he talking all facts
It's not a guess, the faster side of the track with the most grip that opens up turn 1 is from the racing line, which Lewis started from... Max came left to open turn 1. It was smart.
Unfortunately as people know from karting, the fastest line isn't the best through the first corner at the start of the race, for the reason that Max demonstrates. You have to take a slower but more defensive line
There is a breed of drivers that invest in the "You back off or we crash" doctrine; Senna and Michael Schumacher both adopted it. Investing in a few crashes early on in the career seems to be enough to form a reputation and to plant the seed in the minds of other drivers when racing hard.
Many of Verstappen's aggressive moves on Hamilton were when Hamilton was leading the Drivers Championship and so discretion kept Hamilton in the race and allowed him to keep accumulation points, with Verstappen at the time being the chasing driver he had little to lose.
There will come a time when Verstappen may have to make the same calls as Hamilton, when finishing is more important to the Championship that winning, many people will call that maturity. At the moment Verstappen is going to push the boundaries, claim that all collisions are not his fault and project his aggressive style on whoever the other driver is.
It is brilliant driving, but only if the other driver backs off, if they don't it is reckless.
Case in point, Verstappen doesn't accept any criticism for weaving in front of Lando Norris, in the next race however, when Verstappen claims that Hamilton was weaving in front of Verstappen, he uses his weaving in the race before as an example of why it is wrong. In Verstappen's head, he is in the right when he is weaving, and also in the right when others are weaving in front of him.
Great video mate - pure facts - max my way or highway driver an if he collides its the other guys fault =100% always- respect 🤝
@yelistener 🫱🏻🫲🏼 thanks,year late but glad you made this vid 🫱🏻🫲🏼
I think hamilton net defending the inside of 1 makes sesnse because he probably wasn't expecting verstappen to go as deep and then he would have had the inside line for turn 2 which followed right after
This just tells me Max is ready to drive in Mumbai ❤
Add this to the long list of times where Lewis didn't defend the inside line and lost out
Lewis seems like he does not care at least until Austin 2021,sometimes he defends the inside line sometimes he doesnt and gets a P2 and be like great job guys onto the next one😀
Play that video where Hamilton hits the right rear of 6 redbull cars and they all spin out
did we see the same video? are people actually willing to just ignore max driving him off the track? max fans cried so hard during brazil 2021 for lewis "not respecting max's corner" but when max drives hamilton off its due to hamilton's imcompetence in defending... what a joke
@@sean-pl3us actually lewis did not defend the inside here but it was for a reason-to give bottas the slipstream
@@sean-pl3us not sure what you're on about with Brazil 2021, I assume you're referring to T4 where Max pushed him off track. In which case most Max fans will agree that he should have received a penalty there. Going back to this video though, what I commented is 100% accurate, there's countless times where Lewis should have defended the inside but didn't, which allows Max to be aggressive and chuck it up the inside. Lewis is known for taking wide lines and not defending the inside. And it aligns with how the Merc used to be designed, long wheel base, straight line speed etc. Here are some examples I can think of; Spain 2021, Imola 2021, Abu Dhabi 2021 I could go on
He drives like a racer, like a Champion. Wish every single one of those drivers would drive like he does. Would make it way more enjoyable
This proves how arrogant, unsporty, proud and dangerous that maniac crystappen is!!! Lewis had the Apex and crystappen should backed off!!! Cause of that crash crystappen stole the 21 championship!!! Lewis will always be remembered as the sportive GOAT!!! Crystappen as the maniac crybaby!!!
The logical guess to why Lewis didn't move over even though he was thoroughly checking his mirrors was because he wasn't 100% sure if he had the clearance to move right, Max was on his gearbox and imagine if there wasn't the room and Lewis just clipped off the front wing or worse took both drivers out. Everyone would lose their minds
Respect to Sir Lewis for driving cleanly. These cars can be seriously dangerous and it was lucky that Sir Lewis wasn’t injured when Max’s car parked on top of the Merc.
Cleanly? 😅😂😂😂
@@mmartijn78 I take it you weren’t paying attention to the video. Sir Lewis backed out multiple times to avoid a collision. If it wasn’t for the halo Max would have snapped Sir Lewis’ neck and we’d be mourning another avoidable death in Motorsport.
@@sunizzoF1 used to be an battling arena. The posibility of dying has always been there and been accepted by the drivers. And cheered on for by fans.
Now all fans favouring certain drivers want to see is "safe driving". If you want to stay safe then just stay home.
Max is an Alpha knowing danger lurks in every corner.
The one who backs out , loses.
Lewis was a Senna fan he always claims , yet it is Max driving like Senna.
chess more your game .....
@@vennemans9113 This is the type of language that gets people killed/seriously injured. You can drive safely and be still be a fierce competitor, but Max fans can't seem to understand that.
a) When You want to win a lot - You have to drive aggressive way
b) If You drive aggressive way - sometimes You go too far - cause we are humans, not robots, and even robots makes mistakes when system fails + drivers aren't having comfy work ambient during race, they face pressure and adrenalina
c) If low aggression in the grid - all the fans of F1 would say that F1 is too boring to watch
d) some epic overtakes/battles are possible only if with some risk
e) nobody is saint, if You post "crymilton" or "crystappen" in your comment - you show that your brain is ruled not by logic but by emotions, if you have emotional, rage moment in life - don't use internet - just take a walk in the park
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okay lets see what an anarchy of a sport it would be if everyone were with this principle.
Lewis doesn't know how to drive against an agressive opponent. The last time he had to do so was in 2016 and he basically backed off as well.
Bahrain 2016. No backing off there!
This is aggressive in a dangerous and improper way though, he shouldn’t have had to deal with idiotic and dangerous drivers
@@larryoli1178 it's within the rules, so your agrument is kind of stupid. If you aren't agressive, the only way to pass another driver safely is with DRS run by. How fun would that be then?
Difference between aggressive and reckless, it shouldn’t be “move out the way or we both dnf”
Thats called the champions mentality. They are more calm and calculated than the average driver.
Thats exactly what Max is doing now. Remember when he completely yielded when Lewis sent it at the Melbourne race start.
WDCs have nothing to to prove by being reckless and hyper aggressive, thats what makes them special.
I kinda hope more drivers do the same thing to Max
It's actually crazy how bad the driving standard from Verstappen was in 2021, its almost hard to watch now and wonder how he wasn't penalised and or banned for a race. Some of the moves are blatent disregard for anyones safety aswell as disregard for the fact that they're are other cars on track.
He was penalized for Monza crash.
It‘s called racing
Bad driving standard? ahahaha some people are really deluded. Still trying to cope with it, aren't you. Ohboy I feel for people like you.
It's racing you idiot
Just makes me think how much more successful Lewis would be over Max if they were riding MotoGP.......... mainly cuz Max would probably be a smudge on a sausage kerb somewhere.
Everybody knows crashstappen! Hamilton is a clean respectful driver.
they both nearly killed each other they both aren't clean.
hamilton funds domestic terrorism.
Ye Lewis is clean
hamilton drove the exact same way from 2007 until 2013-ish and probably wouldve done it the years after as well if there was any non-merc competition lol, they're both dirty drivers that win by pushing the edge of whats allowed and then blaming the fia when theyve clearly both been hugely favored throughout their careers. compare their driving style to other world champions like vettel, raikkonnen and button and you see a clear difference
'hamilton is a clean respectful driver'. Spit my coffee on this one. You either started watching F1 in 2021 or have dementia. Lewis is in no way clean. Go back to his rivalries with rosberg, Vettel and Alonso. His tactics were different but equally dirty.
Max is ahead at the apex and on the inside, he's allowed to do that. It's his corner at that point. Almost every driver does this... Monza is a completely seperate issue because he isn't ahead. Decide for yourself who is wrong in that scenario, they both could've done things better there imo.
Say what you will... Aggression wins championships.
I think everyone here who has been watching F1 for years and really understands the sport, can say how 2021 championship was manipulated. Hamilton deserved that one and I'm an Alonso fan.
hahaha still trying to cope with it, life must be hard I feel for you.
more murder attempts like silverstone you mean?
Not at all. Any unbiased fan can see Max was better across the season and therefore 'deserved' the title more.
Lewis just keeps on leaving room, and then blames the other driver for aggressively overtaking him. Just don't leave the gap if you don't want that.
Lol and when he left no room Max still crashed on him in Monza what's your point ? If everyone starts thinking like this then there is no racing.
No, crashing is the solution to all problems
What was he supposed to do? The RB was just quicker on the straights (thanks to flexi wings) and Max was determined to 'send it' because it was his only chance to get ahead as Merc was just quicker in race trim.
Lewis played it safe and got rewarded afterwards.
@frszk_270 he did leave space for Max but then closed the gap.
I still think the halo is stupid looking but it's life saving ability is without doubt
This is Max knowing the RB was not as good as the Mercedes. He knew he had to be in front. The last few years you've seen the other side of Max knowing the RB is the class of the field. Suddenly he became a much more patient driver.
Ignore these races and focus on the bigger picture. Lewis’s racing in the last few races of the season, closing the gap on Verstappen, was some of the most brilliant driving ever in F1. He had a skilful, aggressive opponent who really wanted to cause a crash between them - Hamilton needed to keep winning by this point, DNF’s for both of them suited Verstappen- so he had to find ways to get past a fast, skilful, cynical opponent. It was almost impossible but he kept doing it! So that with a few laps to go in the final race in Abu Dhabi he was about to pull off the greatest driving achievement in F1 history. 2021 season would have gone down as one of the sport’s greatest moments. Enter Masi, Horner etc. - from the highest pinnacle in F1 to one of the lowest points in the history of live broadcast sport, all in a few appalling minutes. It was actually the brilliance of Hamilton’s driving in the last quarter of the season that made the grotesque debacle of Abu Dhabi even worse from a sporting point of view. It also trashed Max’s reputation for the wrong reasons - his reputation should have been damaged because of his actual driving that season, not because of FIA-Redbull corruption.
Nobody cares
@@FormulaZyn You obviously do. Thank you for taking the time to read such a long comment. And then for troubling yourself to reply. You’ve made my day. Knowing that deep down Verstappen fans acknowledge the truth in their own hearts. Otherwise they wouldn’t respond at all. It pleases me that your conscience is still troubled by the Abu Dhabi obscenity. You should be proud. The fact that it is still niggling at you is a very good testament to your character. Well done.
@@Parssel yawn
@@FormulaZyn Too late. You revealed your true self with the last comment. Even though you didn’t realise. But I’m guessing you’re not too smart and stupid people rarely have much self understanding. But I’ll say it again - you showed the best of your character by taking the time out of your day to read and respond to my first comment. There’s good in there, you just have to find it.
@@Parssel How will you celebrate the 3 year anniversary?
The comments supporting Max and talking about ‘context’ did not age well
All i see is Verstappen being the far more best and intelligent driver of the 2. Thanks for pointing that out.
Lewis sees every race a marathon and there is no point of getting the car damaged in the first lap. His mentality is ok you go now I will catch you later but he got it wrong with Max. The second part “I will catch you later” didn’t happen. Max is super Max. As usual.
The first two examples are completely different to the last one. In the last one Lewis had cold tires while Max had warm tires, so obviously Max had a lot more grib, then it's just better to let Max pass. Lewis decided to not do that and rather block and crash into Max. After the race Lewis also made a whole show about it acting like Max was doing dangerous things, in reality it was Lewis who did all the dangerous things.
you should watch footage of lewis when he was that age and you will see remarkably similar incidents
Also Brazil 2022 Max and Lewis on Senna S where it was Ocon and Mad respectively in 2018. Lewis didn't give the space and Max complained he wasn't given any while in 2018 he did the same and blamed Ocon who had nowhere to go cause he was on the inside of the turn. Meanwhile, in 2018 Max was on the outside and had plenty of space to use so he wouldn't touch with Ocon, yet he didn't do it.
Which is why anyone who blamed Lewis for 2022 automatically must say Max was in the wrong for 2018
Which anyone with working eyes would know that’s incorrect and Ocon was the one at fault in 2018
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 he closed the door to ocon while on the outside. It's basically like the meme with the dude with the bike. Max sabotaged himself by turning into ocon because either he didn't see him or he didn't give the space intentionally, then blamed Ocon for ruining his race.
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 if it was Ocons fault, then the other day it was Maxs fault, or u use double standards depending where is your fake champ?
@@LepKenetmiss dumbass ocon was a lapped car
@@LepKenetmiss 2022 was Max fault
2018 was Ocon fault
The halo really saved Lewis head in Monza. The wheel touched his head but didn't crush him thanks to that protection. Even at low speed a F1 can really lift in tgw air without that much trouble.
back here after the las vegas start
max would've killed LH without the halo. just ridiculous
Part 2:
Lewis VS Max on Bahrain
Lewis VS Max on Portugal
Lewis VS Max on USA
Alonso did the same in Hungary against Hamilton as well.
I particularly think this is a little dirty game, but this type of movement is quite common, leaving your opponent trapped between losing a position or the race, I just don't understand how the 7x champion Lewis can't do the X in those Verstappen usual dives, Leclerc in Bahrain and Austria in 2022 for example, he resumed the position right after Verstappen dived.
Lewis elbows out Maldonado but failed miserably on Valencia is my favourite because it's the perfect blueprint of how to counter the move
@@abyan58princeI agree, I always do something similar in games😅🤣😂🤣😅
you cant really just always "do the X" on these situations though
@@lRedKill3r don't know if I can agree with you, but what I think:
If you have a driver who is extremely aggressive who is willing to dive in a way that will throw you off the track, why are you going to do a side-by-side corner with it after a stronger braking? It's literally IMPOSSIBLE for the guy to dive into the corner like that and get out of it with good speeds, So it would be smarter for you to hold the brake longer and prepare good traction to pass it back.
Abu Dhabi 2021 is an interesting example.
Max X Lewis On first Lap:
Max dove and put 2 wheels over the white line, and Lewis went off track trying to do side-by-side.
Checo VS Lewis on Lap 20:
It was the exact same dive, and Lewis just held the brakes longer and made a perfect exit out of the corner. The exit was so strong and so fast that he ended up giving the DRS back to Perez.
it's okay that in this situation the Checo was smart and didn't accelerate just thinking about that strategy, But can you understand what I mean? You don't have to take the risk of being on the outside in a corner with an extremely aggressive driver on the inside willing to throw you away.
@@matheusdasilva1 in none of the video's situations that stategy is usable though as Verstappen was pretty much following the normal racing line here
Good ol' Max doing Max things with all that "overwhelming talent"
He can’t face a clean challenge, it’s either his way or no other way. Which is bad, that’s not how it is to be a racing driver, have more confidence in your driving capability to overtaking clean whether on the inside or outside, but don’t drive off the driver ahead of you just so you get track position. You can say whatever you want but, that’s not fighting fair, it’s aggressive driving.
To be honest, he knew he could do these kind of things to Hamilton because he always backs out. If this was Leclerc for example he would not have done this because he knows Leclerc would not back out that easily and they probably crash.
So he can push cars off illegally because Lewis doesn’t want to crash? Seems legit
@@jatley91its crazy that they blame Lewis for Max crowding another driver off the track
As usual verstapen pushing other cars off track
verstappen can only race the way he does because he is the only one doing it. If everyone raced like him we would just have 20 car pile ups at the start of every grand prix.
Welp, its happened again.
And again
@@GabrielFujiwara43😂
They had to fight with this young bull. He still had a lot to learn and his horns to blunt, but his talent is incomparable
Max drives aggressively: yeah thats fair
Hamilton drives aggressively: thats not fair you need to leave a space
(I have 20+ years of racing under my belt) He did not necessarily hand Max the line. Hamilton was technically on the racing line (not always the same as the inside line). Max took the inside line and used the usual racing line against Lewis to ice him out during the 2nd part of the chicane where the transition would put Max on the racing line during the 2nd part of the chicane. Many drivers have done this strategy. It is not an easy situation for either driver, it was more of a split second calculation by both. Max made his move work, that's racing.
So Verstappen is basically doing what Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton were doing as well.
When did they ever push their opponents off the track so far they left it themselves too? 🤔
Don't add Crashtappen in the league of Legends. None of them lack basic racing spirit unlike crashtappen.
@@sambitranjan9584 another broken Crymilton 🤡 life in pain I see. Wish for Hamilton to retire
@@sambitranjan9584 Don't forget the things Schumacher used to do
@@Shifftee Adelaide 1996 schumacher and Susuka 1990 Senna
Back of lewis, max is in charge👊👊
This why i stop watching f1 ! This guy has to be into jail for murder attempts, i say attempts because there where so many! Such a driving should not be allowed especially when the entire world watch ! Is disgrace to the sport!!!
That button behind Lewis steering wheel, on the left. Always giving extra power to accelerate
Who's here after COTA 2024 and Mexico 2024😂 Max is like your ex who convinces you that they've changed except for one thing...
Verstappen had nothing to lose. He knew that and was strategic about it.
funny how the Max fans think, when he does these moves to others it's not his fault he''s "racing" but when others do it to him they lose their minds. it's almost a blessing he's not having any close competition at the moment, him and hamilton could of had some really nasty accidents during that season.
did it today
I love downshift sound in this RB so much
Brilliant driving - the only way one could beat a 7 time champ
Lewis lack of defense makes it easy for Max to overtake. This is not an aggressive style, this is just racing. In very many occasions, Lewis could avoid a collision if he had some proper defense prior to overtake. On the other hand, Max could avoid collisions also by not trying to overtake where the chance of collision is high
Not at all. This is more than an aggressive style, it's wreckless and dangerous. This isn't racing, and the only thing saving him from these situations this year is the rocketship he's been provided with. I appreciate you're a dutch fanboy and as such unable to form an unbiased opinion, but try to understand, this isn't racing. Verstappen is a liability for all.
That’s why people say he has 0 wheel to wheel craft 🤷♂️.
I have only heard the opposite
@@rien3252 who said that?
@@ajnracing6034 everybody who isnt a hater and takes the sport for what it is?
A different comment from me. We all know the aggressiveness of MV, and how tha pace of Mercedes for LH worked for him so he could avoid any clashes. Don't forget that in 2021 due to covid, it was an extra year in old rules, clearly favoring the high-rake (Redbull), smaller (Redbull) monocoques. It was a year that the laws were bent to stop mercedes streak. So it was an extra motivative factor for RB and MV to be more and more aggressive. If 2021 was a Mercedes trophy again, that would be devastative for RB which got whatever they asked to become title competitors.
That second instance was just dirty