Gardening, Agriculture and Herbalism (5th Skills Analysis!)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- How good are gardening, agriculture and herbalism? It's time to find out!
The base skill of gardening is a common 5th skill which can be found on survivors at random or taught from a skill book. When maxed out, you may choose between agriculture and herbalism as advanced skills.
These skills are focused on improving the 3 farming facilities: the farm, the garden, and the hydroponics.
But is that going to cut it for your community? That is the question.
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Love your work mate. A bit of criticism about this video. You started strong and give us grate explanation what you get on each level of your farm development. But your conclusion was bit all aver the place. I believe you should have pointed exact way of how to get maximum yield from each plot (including what skills you need to level to get there), like how get best medicine yield. also you could have shown Gardening/Agriculture/Herbalism skill cards like you did in other skill based videos (makes it much more easy to understand for new players). Thanx for putting your time for making this amazing guides.
This video wound up having 3 versions of it. I recorded 3 voice overs and threw 2 of them out. The first one was 12 minutes long. The second one was 9 minutes long, and obviously this one is 6 minutes long.
Maybe I should have gone with the 9 minutes one which spent more time on the minutia of the facilities, but I do enjoy the swiftness of this 6 minute one. I'm going to pin this and see if other people agree. If there's a trend of people agreeing, then I'll slow down the following episodes.
Fox great content as always but I’d be in the same camp of wanting longer content.
@@GitGudFox Yeah, we love your voice and we come to these videos for the minutia perhaps we haven't considered. You've taught me a lot and I thought I was an expert at this game.
I agree. Take as long as you like. Your explanation of things is a vital key to so many player's survival in this game.
I'd love to see a 9 minute version of this, and one of the medical skill.
Despite its short length, this video took a long time to make!
I just wanted to say your conclusion about converting a garden to meds without herbalism is flawed.
To upgrade a garden to level 3 you need the agriculture for food or herbalism for meds. If you switch from one to the other without the skill it becomes a level 2 facility. And if you are supplying water manually and the water stops it produces as a level one facility. At least that was my experience.
Great video man! Keep these super helpful info vids coming!
I notice a lot of your commenters are more consistently negative about SoD2. I wonder why that is.
Finally playing this game, I’m really enjoying it. Lots of little things to find and discover.
With food and medicine, very good for covering the cost of training. Using the fighting gym you can get all your community max fighting and max cardio (warlord required for cardio) but this will pretty much cover all the training costs for your whole community.
3:45 you can actually do the reverse now. At stage 2, you can switch from food to medicine, then upgrade to farm LV3 if you chose Herbalism.
Thanks for the update G
@@vincentmorales7257 one thing though. I think you still need a specific hero to be leader to build it to lvl 3.
I agree that agriculture is better.
Will you be going over the special 5th skills as well (or at the least the special skills you can buy to teach skills like Fishing, Lichenology, Driving, etc.)?
I ask because one of those skills (hint, gives meds per day) ALSO gives Herbalism unlike its food counter part which doesn't give Agriculture.
oh an another note not related to the video. I just realized the other day when I started a new community and got into the brewery home base that if you have completed the friendly enclave project to help build a still you get more than just a radio call for food and some other items. They also give Knowledge of Alcoholic Beverages. This allows you to get an extra bonus item from making the craft beer or whisky items. I tested this with an existing community as well because now I'm thinking, "why didn't I notice this before?" so I created a Still at the one I have set at Whitney Field with the Trader hero. The level 2 still allows me to craft the trade items that require Jugs of Ethanol and also gave me the bonus item. So it's not a lucky glitch! It's legit.
I plan on doing them, yes. I'm going to go through the common skills first.
Great info!
I like to use two hydroponics, one for food and meds both with compost bin mod.
What's the yields for each?
Same same
@@IamtheDesperado if you go to your base menu and plant the extra seeds and use the compost bin daily it equals out to 8 food per day.
@@greasemonkey258 9*
Could we become friend on Xbox ?
All your SOD 2 videos are really awesome. Nice job and thanks for the info
Thank you! I'm honored you'd say that!
What is your pfp lieutenant bort
@@Steezealways Nova, from SC2
@@lieutenantbort1664 oh whats sc2
@@Steezealways StarCraft 2, a videogame
Have you done a facility mod breakdown?
I have not yet. I might do that after I get through the major skills.
You're the lead RUclipsr for SOD2 survivor skills optimization. Love the vids Fox. Keep em coming. What about the driving skill fully upgraded? Never had the opportunity to max it out to see what it does
Probably because I don't have much competition! I have the book for driving, and I will eventually do it.
@@GitGudFox awesome...can't wait. You're #1
Awesome. I hope we get news about the upcoming map soon.
Possibly on the 12th. I posted a tweet capturing something their RUclips page mentioned about information on that day.
I need help. Garden isn’t producing any food. What do I do?? Could someone tell me step by step of what to do. Maybe I missed a step.
It just produces food on its own each day. The bonuses cause it to produce more food, but it will always produce at least 1 food per day.
as long as you get +1 food a day you are fine. it means all your survivors can get enough to eat. anything more than that really isn't needed even in long term gameplay
You mean +1 more than the total you're consuming?
@@GitGudFox I think he means as long as the consumption rate per day is positive 1.
Hydroponics for life
Don't forget the garden can equal it in production if you upgrade it to level 3.
@@GitGudFox isn't that large slot only?
@@rufescenteagle7299 Nah, that's the farm. The garden is the most basic of the farming facilities, but it equals the hydroponics when at level 3.
@@GitGudFox ah. I still prefer the hydroponics, so simple. Just build it and you're good to go
@@rufescenteagle7299 Yeah. Also you can build the hyroponics indoors or outdoors which is nice.
Can you make a video of the Red Talon skills? Please
Eventually yeah, I want to do the basic skills before I get to the more advanced skills.
Always love your videos. SoD is my favorite game. Keep up the great work.
Can you build a level 3 farm with foraging?
By the way the answer is no, only with agriculture and a trader as a leader
Again your vids save so mich time and resources. So is hydroponics the best food source or a farm?
Hydroponics is tied with garden if you can level the garden to 3. Both are tied with the level 2 farm, and the level 3 farm is the strongest but needs a large facility and also a Trader leader.
If you have a survivor with fishing you get another +2
You can. This video was just about the gardening skills though which is why I don't discuss things like outposts and what not.
Agriculture over herbalism 😎
There's a lot of poorly balanced skills in the game. There do have to be mediocre skills, but some of them are especially not great.
Thanks for this! What was the outro song?
How to unlock 6 outposts can only ever get to 5 haha not loaded the game in a long time but really getting back into it
Great video!
Thanks, glad it was useful.
Awesome videos where do you find a utility book or the skill?
Try looking at a library building. There's usually 1 library per map. It doesn't assure you the utility book though; otherwise, you just have to get lucky and loot 1 at random, buy it from a rare book trader, or keep searching for survivors that were generated with the skill. Check your allies to see if one of them has a community member with utilities. You can recruit them if you max out your trust with them (allied).
My base should be producing 13 after the survivors food cost however its only producing 5 a day any advice?
Make sure your farming facility has been upgraded to its highest level. Make sure you're installing a high quality production increasing mod like a bag of fertilizer or a composting bin. Make sure you're activating the overseeding ability which spends more seeds to boost production.
@@GitGudFox i have max lv facilities with compost bins which i activate daily yet it still doesn't give me the right amount of food
You should get between 9-12. Do you have water and power? If everything is maxed out, everything has mods, all bonuses are applied, all utility requirements for water/power re met, and you're not getting 9-12, then I don't know what the problem is.
@@GitGudFox It must be a glitch then
Whats convice u get the test mod then BAM food forever
I noticed there was a plus one food to the production. Do u get it from agriculture
Can you give me a time stamp for the part you're looking at?
Yes agriculture maxed out gives +1 food.
So basically food production is only vital if you have a lot of people. If not, you should just use a hydroponics.
A hydroponics is food production. Its basically the same thing as the garden except it can be indoors and requires water, power, and knowledge of utilities.
I have tow large farms level 2 and a food outpost one of my people give me 1 food , my base don't lose food but it get 1 , hh
Where auto mechanics and engineering?
When the expensive skill books came out I built three super communities with the aim of farming influence. One community focuses on overproducing meds so that they can farm plague samples from plague hearts. I was very interested to see if I wasn't already producing the bulk plague cures in the most efficient way. One base focuses on overproducing food and cooking up whiskey. The final base produces thousands of tool parts. The tool parts method is the most efficient, but also the most tedeous because of the payout for the stack size. The whiskey is bottle necked by the still's timers. The most sustainable was the base that farmed plague zombies and overproduced meds. However, that base runs on 5 Red talon operatives. The other 4 civilians are there to promote to leader, plant their respective large facilities, and then to exile. This way I have an armory, trade depot, and a sniper tower at the same time. I just have to make sure to recruit and hero the right type of citizens each time before I flip the map. Finally, I hit all the weapons cases each time I hit a new map and outfit my other two enclaves and my friends with the rare weapons and skill books. Runnin out of things to do in this game though tbh.
I think that's fine. SoD2 wasn't meant to be played day in and day out for years like Fortnite, Warframe, or an MMORPG. I think it's best to play it until you've had you fill. Then take a break and come back later when you're in the mood for more.
hey fox would u ever consider redoing these videos with the context of the lethal zone and outpost updates?
I would. It's in the works, but there's a lot on my plate right now.
Very good info. I'm currently at the brewery and food production is a must. Takes a few days to get your compost bins, then your set. I do 3 hydroponics. 2 food, 1 meds. I need my large spot for my depot. Ty for the video.
Ho do you get the compost bin because I also like the brewery but I have no Idea where I get these compost bins can you help me with that and tell me how to get them please ? :-)
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You can also get some one with lichenology and fishing
Lichenology is a replacement for herbalism, but fishing is not a replacement for agriculture.
Lichenology still gives you the knowledge of herbalism + gardening, but fishing doesn't give you the knowledge of agriculture.
Does the food count on this vid still applies on Lethal Zone? I'm on the brewing company to farm influence like you showed on your video but I'm getting my ass kicked pretty much coz of the sieges. I was thinking on going for 3 Hydroponics and scratch the farm. I'll build a sniper tower.
Any tips to survive long on lethal zone?
Production doesn't change on difficulty, just consumption, so the stats here will be what you get on Lethal Zone, but your characters will simply eat more food.
You want someone with Bartending to make the stills really good because you get an extra high value beer whenever you make them. You can also make whiskey instead of beer if you're struggling with food. The whiskey isn't as valuable as the beer, but food might be more valuable to your community than ethanol.
@@GitGudFox oh I see. It might be difficult to find someone with that quirk skill. My plan now is to have loads of excess food daily from the Hydroponics. I'm planning to maintain a group of 6 to 7 people unless things change.
My last problems are I'm stuck to CC 2 and I have a barracks on a large facility. I'm planning to free that space for Sniper Tower coz the noise in my place is just loud. So I could free the watchtower spot for another Hydroponics. And free all my outposts with beds. Although it sucks coz I can no longer use the white noise machine but I have to farm influence to survive through steady flow of commerce.
Do you think its a good idea boss?
I dont have your fancy Red Talon Facilities so I'm kinda struggling with these old school style. I know this will take a month to stabilize but I guess thats the fun in it? Plus the 34 plague hearts? How do I kill those things easily?
Sorry for the long reply, I just kinda need a good advice from pros I guess :) :) :)
The way to get Bartending is to get the brewing enclave guys. They typically have the Bartending skill, so you just have to get one of them.
It also really helps if you have a survivor with the Fishing (+2 Food per Day) or Lichenology (+2 Meds per Day) skills.
Those aren't related to gardening, though.
@@GitGudFox Just mentioning them as they helped out a lot when it comes to also getting food or meds.
Legends LiveForever True. I have a survivor with the Fishing skill and her hero bonus is Meal Plan (-25% food consumed overall) With this character I can keep my base stocked up on food with just one hydroponics. I am currently looking for a Lichenology book, but I have had no luck so far.
@@rjmeeker89 Rare Skills Traders have them. They cost a lot of Influence however.
Legends LiveForever I know. I can't seem to get the rare book trader to spawn though. I have never seen one.
Epic
Into the whole Chuckee Cheese thing I take it?
Git Gud Fox perhaps
Will you go over read talon 5th skill also?
That means I'll have to grind Daybreak... but yes, I will do them too.
Thumbs up again
Agriculture is one of those top skills.
You sure do have the face for radio fox
Would you believe I was concerned that people wouldn't like my voice when I was debating starting the channel?
This base is in which map?
Probably Squelones Brewery.
@@GitGudFox thanks for your answer
I'm probably pretty strange on this one. I agree that Agriculture is better than Herbalism but I prefer the hydroponics. It's just really nice to know that I can build it either indoors or outdoors and also, though I know this shouldn't be a priority, I just like the way it looks!
I used it a lot more in the beginning. The issue is mainly utilities. If utilities was more valuable, I would use the hydroponics more.
If you have a self sufficient community where you're getting equal or excess resources daily then what is there to actually keep you playing?? I ask because I'm in that boat & find myself unsure of what to do to pass time
The new difficulties coming out on March 26th, Dread Zone and Nightmare Zone could be what you need.
When you put the compost bin into a facility with herbs it doesnt give you anything. Besides this your great!!
I don't think that's the case. I've grown the same amount of meds and food from the same compost bin setups.
Yeah you're wrong. I have 2 gardens at my base with compost bins, every 3rd day I switch 1 to grow meds and still get the boost.