Best Budget Mini PC? Intel N100 replaced by N150

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @frustratedalien666
    @frustratedalien666 5 дней назад +10

    I just got mine yesterday. It was actually cheaper than many N100 systems, which surprised me

    • @rafiy7150
      @rafiy7150 4 дня назад +1

      so intel messed up with the low end pricing scheme again

    • @davidp.6315
      @davidp.6315 2 дня назад

      Very curious is you had a chance to play any games whatsoever in the N100, and if so, how was the performance? TiA

    • @mrawesomeface4174
      @mrawesomeface4174 2 дня назад

      ​@@davidp.6315500 FPS in Minesweeper

    • @mantisthefirst
      @mantisthefirst 2 дня назад

      from which store?

  • @SatanicJamnic
    @SatanicJamnic 4 дня назад +8

    Dude made first review of new procesor on whole RUclips and didnt even made passmark or geekbench xD
    What a genius xD

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 2 дня назад

      "Passmark" and "Geekbench" require capital letters in English grammar as proper nouns.
      Dude doesn't even know where the Shift key is on his keyboard. What a genius.

  • @sgirix65
    @sgirix65 5 дней назад +4

    Great video as usual, waiting for N250 review

  • @paulladdie1026
    @paulladdie1026 5 дней назад +8

    Lee, does this have dual channel memory or just one DIMM?

    • @brunosurkov
      @brunosurkov 5 дней назад +5

      This is the only thing that bothers me about the N100 and after a little research, the N150 appears to be limited to 16GB single channel DDR5 4800MT/s memory as well. Apart from that, it's such a good performance for a 6W CPU.

    • @frustratedalien666
      @frustratedalien666 5 дней назад +3

      The processor can only support single channel

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 5 дней назад

      @@brunosurkov If you run a proper OS like Linux, rather than "Windows For Kiddies", you don't need 16GB RAM anyway. Windows needs it to run all of that telemetry-ware in the background that's stealing all of your personal data.
      You kiddies do make me smile - you and your "we need to run Starfailed or Cybersplatt 4044 on everything and we'll never be happy until we can!"

    • @acubley
      @acubley 5 дней назад +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 Dual channel would definitely help the N100, which I'm using now. Slight pause as I load a new tab/program. I'm going to see how much difference going to a 16GB with better timings makes. I think I recall DDR5 kinda has built in dual-channel going on, increasing the bandwidth.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      @@acubley "Dual channel" is something only Windows users or gamers care about and I have no interest in the requirements of either.

  • @pr0jectSkyneT
    @pr0jectSkyneT 3 дня назад +2

    The GMKTEC G6 also looks interesting with the Ryzen 5425u processor.

  • @TCDIXON
    @TCDIXON 3 дня назад

    I'm a huge fan of low powered Tiny PC's currently running a mele tiny PC off solar

  • @sfperalta
    @sfperalta 2 дня назад

    Looks good... but my question is, in 2024, if the interior of the box is supposed to be user-serviceable... then why do you have to remove screws capped by rubber plugs?? There should be a simple snap-release to expose the NVMe and SODIMM sockets. It's such a simple thing, but so many manufacturers make it unnecessarily difficult.

  • @PatrickConstant
    @PatrickConstant 5 дней назад

    It should be very interesting to put the Beelink on the back of a 22 inches screen no ? Thanks for the news...

  • @Randombourg
    @Randombourg 5 дней назад +2

    Is there anything stopping these being powered by usb c, from a dock or screen etc, 25w isn't much?

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      There's no pleasing some people - when people complain at having to use external power supply blocks, in this case the manufacturers put the PSU inside the case. Now they've put it inside the case, you want an external USB one again?
      I don't have any great affinity for one of these boxes, I won't be buying one unless a mega cheap one appears used online in a year or two, but I can admire it as what looks like a good piece of engineering.

    • @Randombourg
      @Randombourg 4 дня назад +3

      @ dunno where you got the understanding that I was displeased by external blocks or receiving ac power in my question, and I don't think that your comment adds any value.
      As a matter of fact I have "mcgyvered" probably 10 devices powered by barrel jacks to usb just for convenience.
      Where I have done this to an old Zotac z box, I have to remind myself that I need to turn on the screen before the pc when they are powered by the same usb power supply, because it renegotiates power to all devices, which means that the pc momentarily loses power.
      Perhaps there's someone out there in RUclips land who has solved this issue, possibly by using a better usb power supply that doesn't have this issue, maybe by including an ups or a battery?

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      @@Randombourg "dunno where you got the understanding that I was displeased by external blocks or receiving ac power in my question,"
      The reason for that might be you're just a bit "hard of thinking".
      "powered by usb c" means "powered by an external PSU or other device with its own PSU. That's an *external* power source.
      Please do try harder to keep up, it's really not a difficult concept to understand.
      "and I don't think that your comment adds any value."
      You're welcome to that opinion, an opinion I am happy to ignore.
      "As a matter of fact I have "mcgyvered" probably 10 devices powered by barrel jacks to usb just for convenience."
      Yes, I have my own electronics and soldering station too. But you've modified *external* power supplies in doing so, and now you've completely contradicted your original whine anyway.
      "Where I have done this to an old Zotac z box..."
      Sorry, I don't see how any of the remaining part of your comment is relevant to the discussion, even though I read it.

  • @jtreg
    @jtreg 4 дня назад

    ordered from us official site, bit worried about shipping time to uk

  • @TonELowq
    @TonELowq 4 дня назад +2

    How does this compare against the N97 cpu? Isn't it basically the same cpu but with worst graphics? Great vid. Thx

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  4 дня назад

      @@TonELowq it’s hard to directly compare as the n150 is not on the intel site
      www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/intel-processor/products.html

  • @Pegaroo_
    @Pegaroo_ 3 дня назад

    3:35 when you're downloading PC games the bottle neck often isn't your internet connection, the files are compressed so it's likely your CPU that's holding you up (especially on low power devices)

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  2 дня назад

      @@Pegaroo_ my experience here is related to download speed. I get 100 in my office 400 directly from the router. It was much faster for me

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 4 дня назад +1

    The N100 is the old 2 core Atom, and the 8 core N300 and N305 are the old 4 core Atoms
    As far as atoms go they are absolutely amazing, these E cores are finally getting some love after over 15 years of neglect
    Similar PCIe(many atoms only had 8-11 PCIe lanes like the N series 9 lanes)
    Similar memory (most atoms only support one channel of RAM and are often firmware limited to lower than can be installed or act funny if more than spec'd is installed)
    The Alderlake N family of atom processors are just newer, and on a new node allowing for more, faster atom cores.
    These are great Atom processors, dont get me wrong, probably the first in the atom class that i'd happily suggest to a family member for their daily use desktop.
    It just REALLY pissed me off when Intel tried to call the N305 an i3, when the i3-1215U of the same $309 MSRP had 4x the PCIe bandwidth, 2x the memory bandwidth something like 3x the GPU power, and could in theory address up to 512GB* of DDR5 where as the i3-N305 can only do 256GB with most boards only having room for 128GB and starts to act funky if you give it more than 16GB(the officialy supported spec)
    *In theory any 4 slot DDR5 board can support the planned maximum spec of DDR5 which is supposed to be 128GB per DIMM/soDIMM, but because the i3-N305 is actually an atom, it only has 1 channel of RAM so at most it can do only 2 sticks where the i3-1215u can do 4

    • @georgekokotis5732
      @georgekokotis5732 3 дня назад

      Which Atom do you mean?

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 День назад

      The problem is that you can get anything between 3rd to 8th generation Core i5 or i7 CPUs in used SFF PCs (that also support dual channel memory, if that's such an issue for the "angry" people here) for less money that you pay for one of these mini PCs and any of those will outperform it as well.
      Therefore the only reason to buy one of these is if you really need the tiny form factor and / or the dual Ethernet interfaces for maybe a pfSense or other type of network router/application box.
      Unfortunately, as usual, the comments get swamped with "angry gamer loonies" who just want to complain if a piece of hardware clearly isn't designed to run "Starfailed" or "Cybersplatt 4044".

    • @georgekokotis5732
      @georgekokotis5732 День назад

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 Not a problem at all. Just a possible solution in a multi-parametric space in which every person sets own criteria. Mine are {System to buy}C{Systems with min $ price}C{Systems with min TCO}C{Systems with max efficiency}C{Systems with enough CPU/GPU power for my workchains}

  • @ynyslochtyn
    @ynyslochtyn День назад +1

    So this is just a little bit faster than the N100 with neither suitable for demanding games?

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  21 час назад

      @@ynyslochtyn it’s a low cost mini PC. You need to spend a lot more if you want a PC to play demanding games

  • @CouchCoach
    @CouchCoach 4 дня назад

    Is the N97 still the faster one?

  • @Quast
    @Quast 11 часов назад

    Too bad the new N150 & N250 (6W) don't seem to get the same thermal headroom the N97 (12W) got for higher base and sustained iGPU clocks...

  • @HappyQuailsLC
    @HappyQuailsLC 23 часа назад

    Won't your integrated power transformer generate heat?

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  21 час назад

      @@HappyQuailsLC it’s a low powered device didn’t get very hot at all even in these tests the fan was never loud. The internal fan also helps cool the power unit
      Intel N100 vs N150 Benchmarks
      ruclips.net/video/BjHQSXIRUiM/видео.html

  • @PiManiac
    @PiManiac 4 дня назад +2

    I can't see this beating the N97 for emulation.

    • @tatageek
      @tatageek 3 дня назад

      Because it's not.
      N150 CPU performance is almost the same as N97,
      GPU performance of N150 is worse than N97, however it could be drivers issue.
      I have both EQ14 and Odroid H4

  • @sallycakes472
    @sallycakes472 5 дней назад

    hi, new subscriber, love ur videos, can u please do a rasberry pi os update as now apparently labwc is default and better performance. tx keep up great work

  • @srvuk
    @srvuk 3 дня назад +2

    Needs a comparison with the N97.

    • @tatageek
      @tatageek 3 дня назад

      N150 CPU performance is almost the same as N97,
      GPU performance of N150 is worse than N97, however it could be drivers issue.
      I have both EQ14 and Odroid H4. Plus.

    • @giuseppecontino5805
      @giuseppecontino5805 3 дня назад +1

      @@tatageek N97 iGPU has same 24 EUs but +200MHz faster so I don't think is a driver issue because they are basically the same processor

    • @MrIgorasek16
      @MrIgorasek16 2 дня назад +1

      @@tatageek Kiedy można się spodziewać filmu na kanale z N150? 😅

    • @tatageek
      @tatageek 2 дня назад +1

      @@MrIgorasek16 planuje za kilka dni opublikować. Gdzieś w okolicach czwartku ma szansę się pojawić 😊

  • @georgekokotis5732
    @georgekokotis5732 3 дня назад

    How does the N150 perform compared to the N100?
    Tks!

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  2 дня назад +1

      @@georgekokotis5732 200mhz faster cpu 250mhz faster gpu I’ll try and do some benchmarks

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 4 дня назад

    I need to doublecheck the LAN adapters, but i might get this for my firewall, i have found my N100 is not quite fast enough and will sometimes crap out if i'm sustaining near full gigabit, or if i am 700Mbps down and more than 500Mbps up. I'd like to take advantage of my symetrical gigabit, without going back to my old Ryzen 7 4650GE, where the whole firewall idled at 4x the power of the N100 machine under full load
    Edit, i know the N150 in theory isnt that much faster than the N100, but my network cards are not intel, and my TDP is 8W, with this Beelink being at 25W and maybe having Intel NICs i might have a better time, for a cheaper price.
    I might have to get one of these in hand to test, i can see that the WiFi is intel based, but i cant tell about the LAN

  • @bubbagumpshrimps
    @bubbagumpshrimps 4 дня назад

    Do you happen to know what the power usage is when idle, normal and under load? I am really interested how it compares to the N100 which is idling around 3.5 watt..

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 День назад

      Why don't you go and have a look around the manufacturer's web site and see if they have any specification sheets on the mini PC that detail that information for you - if they are a reputable manufacturer, they should be able to provide that information to you. Maybe there's a support email address that you can ask the question on?
      Be proactive, take the initiative and go and do your own research, that is how you learn new things. It's not always someone else's job to get that information for you.

  • @davidp.6315
    @davidp.6315 2 дня назад

    I'm really looking to get some input as cybermonday deals are one and looking to get 2 for my sisters. They use it for mostly schoolwork but also play Minecraft, minecraft Dungeonn, and roblox. Nothing extensive, I got them a 1080p 24" monitor. Will this handle rhose games at 60 fps? TIA!

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  День назад

      @@davidp.6315 maybe at lower graphics settings

  • @SoupHeavenly
    @SoupHeavenly 2 дня назад

    how do you replace the power supplies?

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  2 дня назад

      @@SoupHeavenly why would you need to? It’s the same as your TV, Games console and many other devices.
      I don’t think I have ever had a power supply fail on me

    • @SoupHeavenly
      @SoupHeavenly 2 дня назад

      @leepspvideo my PC power supply failed after 8 or 9 years

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  2 дня назад

      @@SoupHeavenly sounds reasonable

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 2 дня назад

      @@SoupHeavenly Then you make a standard power supply size to be a requirement for purchasing a PC that you need - in which case this product is not for you.
      This is just one example of a simple questions that good engineers ask themselves when considering hardware for new projects.

  • @ziggy8757
    @ziggy8757 2 дня назад

    geekbench scores?

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  День назад

      @@ziggy8757 today at 17:45 UK time

  • @hendrixkon1820
    @hendrixkon1820 4 дня назад

    I skipped intel i9 8th (6 cores 6 threads) and choosen n97 mini pc. Is dual channel ram important for emulation of ps1 and below ? and for PS2 ?

  • @kaisersolo76
    @kaisersolo76 5 дней назад

    Thing is most modern devices can do the job of quicksync at source and the n100/n150 gets choked out easily under any type of load just like this.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      If you run Windows on it then, yes, it gets choked easily. There's your answer.

  • @leightaylor8069
    @leightaylor8069 5 дней назад

    Were you able to pay in UK Pounds? The cart seems to only show US Dollars.

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  5 дней назад

      @@leightaylor8069 I was sent it for a review. I couldn’t see it on UK Amazon yet

    • @jtreg
      @jtreg 4 дня назад

      it did a 72 hour conversion rate held at a particular rate, It was $200 black friday paid in 3 bits £57 bits via PP

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 День назад

      @@leepspvideo No, Lee. His Majesty needs you to contact Amazon and fix their web site for him. Can you also fluff up the cushions on his throne while you are at it?

  • @st200ol
    @st200ol 4 дня назад

    I don't play games on my desktop so I'll stick with my Pi5. The Pi OS seems to be getting better with every update.

  • @JeromeDemers
    @JeromeDemers 2 дня назад

    I might pick one up for immich and have 2 drive in raid.

  • @JamesTenniswood
    @JamesTenniswood 5 дней назад +1

    Single channel ram, the second m.2 is 1x speed and the ethernet is just 1gbe. Interesting but i think I can wait.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 5 дней назад

      I am not sure what else one could reasonably expect to be in such a small form factor AND solve the problem of keeping it cool enough to run in a stable manner.
      I am not interested in one of these anyway because I only run Linux, don't play any of that modern "games as a service" rubbish and get far better value for money for what I need from used SFF PCs online that I can pick up for half the price of one of these.
      But I do think you probably have unrealistic expectations, perhaps you need to become better informed on how hardware actually works and how limited airflow for cooling means that you have to keep the power consumption as low as possible in devices of this size.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320
    @terrydaktyllus1320 2 дня назад

    It amazes me how you just reviewing a mini PC here makes so many people here angry. Clearly many of them need better hobbies.

  • @SMorrisRose
    @SMorrisRose 5 дней назад

    s/fequency/frequency/ is a surprising gaffe

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      So is not including a full stop after "gaffe".
      But the irony in your comment is not lost on me today, thank you for putting a smile on my face.

  • @ДмитроЖигалкін
    @ДмитроЖигалкін 4 дня назад +1

    Nice Advertisement bull...t company from Intel. That processor should be named N105 or 103 for how marginally it is better than N100, instead you have new loud 150 name for higher price :)
    Wish you good purchasing capabilities to fulfill all Intel marketing targets for next year !!!

  • @SachinKumar-cl7xm
    @SachinKumar-cl7xm 5 дней назад +1

    Sir Can you please review Nano Base Board (B) for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 works on raspberry pi 5 or not🙏🙏🙏 BTW you make nice content ❤ from 🇮🇳

    • @leepspvideo
      @leepspvideo  5 дней назад

      @@SachinKumar-cl7xm unfortunately I didn’t get sent a cm5 as it’s an industrial product and I’m not on that list. I’m hoping Emtec may send me one as they are out of stock now

    • @SachinKumar-cl7xm
      @SachinKumar-cl7xm 5 дней назад

      @leepspvideo ohhh🥲

  • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
    @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 4 дня назад +1

    This is a nothing burger release. The n100 will remain king for price/performance for the foreseeable future. When Intel goes 3nm with the Atom processors then I'll get hype again.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      "The n100 will remain king for price/performance for the foreseeable future."
      If you truly care about performance then you should not be running any kind of Microsoft operating system because, cycle for cycle, any version of Linux will run more efficiently than any version of Windows, especially with the amount of overhead Windows has in the background with all the telemetry stuff going on.
      People that post comments constantly demanding more performance only to stick Windows on a machine need therapy, quite frankly.
      "When Intel goes 3nm with the Atom processors then I'll get hype again."
      The Atom platform was cheap and nasty rubbish - it's why it died off as quickly as it arrived in netbooks 10-15 years ago.

    • @CouchCoach
      @CouchCoach 4 дня назад +1

      And since you can get n97 for only 10-20 bucks more, with a greatly increased performance, i would not call n100 price/performance king.

    • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
      @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 4 дня назад

      @@CouchCoach "greatly increased performance"
      5% boost for $15 does not beat the n100, AND it uses double the wattage.

    • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
      @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 4 дня назад

      @@terrydaktyllus1320The Intel N100 processor is based on the Atom architecture. It's in a book, so take a look and RTFM! 🤣

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 4 дня назад

      @@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- I stop painting little faces around words that I write when I got to age seven and first learned joined-up writing. Just saying.
      Off you go then, sonny, you have homework to do. Mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors.
      Discussion closed.

  • @ДмитроЖигалкін
    @ДмитроЖигалкін 4 дня назад

    My prevoius ol 6 core AMD FX-6300 CPU WHICH IN ALL TESTS! show on 25% lower performance than Intell N100 - newer was such often 100% busy on Windows 10 as I'm now noticing on "paper faster" N100 with Windows 11 for ordinary video/browsing tasks. Don't believe Win 11 is so more demanding. Rather all that tests are marketing bull..it partially designed to stimulate you buy new products as same as new N150 which is few percents faster than N100 but wisely marketing branded it 150 to "pretend" for 50% increase 😂😂😂 The only one plus that N serie have is significally lower power consumption, all rest - just marketing advertisement tricks. It is very veeeery awerage processors if not say straight - low performing.

  • @betag24cn
    @betag24cn 5 дней назад

    again 4 cores only?
    again only one ram slot?

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 5 дней назад

      I have machines with only two cores dating back to 2007 that make perfectly good daily driver PCs, when you run an OS like Linux that isn't bloated and doesn't steal all of your data.
      Another person playing "Top Trumps" with their computers on Reddit, to see who amongst their peer group can have "the most Ryzen cores", "the highest FPS" or "most kidneys donated by mummy and daddy at Christmas to get me the latest overpriced and proprietary NVIDIA GPU for Christmas".

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 5 дней назад +1

      @terrydaktyllus1320 you did bot got it, n100 is the same, all the same, only slower vlock
      dont tell me about your old celerons that should be retired in 2025

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 5 дней назад

      @@betag24cn "you did bot got it, n100 is the same, all the same, only slower vlock"
      Since I don't plan on buying either machine, such information has no relevance to me.
      "dont tell me about your old celerons that should be retired in 2025"
      I don't normally take instructions from strangers on the Internet but I will make an exception in this case as not engaging with you saves me valuable time anyway. So, no, I would tell you about my old Celerons. (Note the capitalisation of "Celeron" as it's a proper noun.)
      Good, I think we're done here.
      Off you go then, go count your Ryzen cores, see if any of your "pretend Internet gamer mates" have stolen any.
      Mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors.
      Discussion closed.

  • @Noiconnotag
    @Noiconnotag 4 дня назад

    Too bad you got the one with ddr4 instead of ddr5 and too bad they still release these with single channel ram, I expected a dual channel configuration in the future of the N100.