Here’s a challenge idea: Build a functional computer entirely out of functioning scam parts. You’ve already got the graphics card. If you can play counter strike (low bar) technically a win.
@@consolelivesmatter damn, my 4060ti drops to 40 frames in 1080p in crysis3 sometimes. with ultra setttings. but goddamn is it a gorgeous game! even the first one is good looking.
Just look at the price lol. But this kind of fake card usually only happen with fermi and kepler due to those card can use modded BIOS. the used market was quite rampant back then with this so with maxwell nvidia only make official signed BIOS can work with those card (which those that want to use modded BIOS and open source group of people hate) So you will not going to see maxwell (and above) being disguise as a differrent card.
I work in customs, and we do open packages, but we are REQUIRED to reseal them. we even have our own tape that specifically says "opened and resealed by customs" all over it
Like falling for a honey trap scam and finding out she has a heart of gold, makes the best BLT sandwiches you ever had and actually does want to marry you and live happily ever after. Beautiful! *wipes tears*
You guys joke but I built an early 2000s gaming rig for free with 90s games in mind. Some kind of Sempron board from the local recycling centre with an equally e-waste ATI AGP card. Flies in stuff like Half Life and has full Windows 98 support. Some people pay hundreds for PIII systems with fancy Nvidia TNT cards, just get a damn Sempron for free instead.
I cant believe customs stole your 4090 and swapped it with a modified GTX 670! I would file a complaint with the government and demand they give you a new 4090 as recompense.
My friend bought a tablet from aliexpress, and a cardboard with a Temu logo arrived inside an open aliexpress box. It took the police 20 minutes to find the custom that stole the tablet because the idiot was bragging about it with his coworkers
they could literally just sell these as what they are, a GTX 670 with a modded bios and drivers, they clearly put some effort into making sure the card was actually functional, this is literally more usable than a stock GTX 670. they could just advertise "we're breathing new life into old GPU architectures" "were doing our part to reduce and repurpose E-waste" they have such a good opportunity to sell a legitimate product but they chose to try and peddle it off as something that it isnt
They can't do it without nvidia's permission, since there is obvious modding of bios and hardware going on. Best they can do is to be a blatant scammer whom nvidia would laugh their as* off and don't care. If you think about it, these scammers are actually quite noble for putting that much dangerous effort into valueless cards and still sell them for a chump exchange.
Or better yet just sell them as 670's with 670 drivers. Nobody who's buying a PC for modern gaming would want to cheap out on their GPU anyways. But for a media center PC, they're perfectly fine. I still use my 650 every day on one of my computers. Only real issue though is that the 670 idles at 15watts, whereas a 650 would be half that.
@@jareddoesstuff358 i remember mine 650. Wild GK107 (450) with 1GB of DDR5. I had oc'd mine to 1258MHz core and 1400MHz memory, without anything. It just was "dial and run" settings.
@@teleman07 Nvidia absolutely aren't sanctioning this. the bios is wide open, I've modded my bios. The knowledge needed to design the hardware is available from slightly more legit companies that got it from Nvidia.
That's a steal, look at those benchmarks! It's perfect! It can even be installed into a retro XP machine and you can brag to your friends you're rocking a 4090 playing some good'ol pinball!
I bet it would be hell to get working in XP with the bios trickery they pulled off, rather than running it as the original card. But this is what happens when e waste is shipped away, people don't know what they are scrapping, and also overpay for modern cards.
@@AlexDoodle Sure, for a something like computer aimed to play retro games from the era it might be worth it to some hobbyists. But it doesn't excuse people being misled like this to make profit (even if buying 4090 so cheap would make receiver rather clueless if they thought they somehow get 4090 at that price in pristine condition especially.)
oh Jon..you got scammed..I got a 64 TB flash for 7 dollars 50 from AliExpress..I was a bit dubious of its capacity too until it saved a few word documents on it..that's proof it's got the storage it claims..
I have that exact card but with the correct bios. It’s a GTX 760Ti. A rebranded GTX 670 sold to OEMs like Dell. Even though it was sold as a 700 series it didn’t have all the newer features. Performance wise it sat between 760 and 770.
I like the warning about voiding warranty if unofficial drivers are used 🤣 when, you know, they've done back-alley surgery on the bios and called it a 4090
Judging by the cooler/shroud and the power connectors I'm guessing it's going to turn out to be an OEM GTX 760. I'm writing this before watching the rest of the video so it's going to fun to see if I got it right. Edit: I was very close seeing as the GTX 670 and GTX 760 are effectively identical. Edit 2: I just saw a notification that this comment was "hearted" however me editing it removed the heart.
@@yeetus59 The latest official drivers (566.14 for example) shouldn't support Kepler at all as in 2021 Nvidia reduced Kepler's driver support to only security updates and the latest driver version compatible with Kepler GPUs is 475.14.
Earlier this year I picked up three GTX 680 4GB cards, and I was pretty surprised by how capable they still were in the games they can run. Especially in SLI on the older titles like The Witcher (pre-nextgen) and GTA V.
@@killerdeamonking thats cool, my gtx 680 died in august, but it was fun while it lasted ;) (paired with i3 10100f i could get almost 300fps on portal2, which was amazing for an almost 11 year old gpu)
What fascinates me is that GPU-Z isn't detecting it as a scam card, yet it was able to detect the actual chipset, which is a GK104. They should update it to detect these newer-ish scams again.
@SweBeach2023 Nah, GPU-Z was doing it when they started detecting fake GPUs back then, no false positives. They just need to update for these "new" cards.
So hang on, the Kepler is "not supported" by the latest drivers, but it got the latest drivers and mostly works, the non working bits being asking for more memory than it has, or functions it cant do. Always thought it was strange that the Maxwell v1 GTX 750 was supported when Kepler wasn't, when Maxwell v1 isn't really any different in capabilities - still a DX12 FL11. Nvidia did the dirty on Kepler, it seems, really need a Nimez treatment for the Nvidia drivers. Usually, fake cards will be a total failure with the latest real drivers
Yeah this is actually really strange how it manages to use the up to date drivers that don't normally support kepler, and automatically no less. Even the custom aliexpress cards that put mobile gpus on desktop cards need modded drivers to work as the official ones refuse to install on them yet this scam card manages to just work with drivers that don't even support the architecture...
This took me by surprise. Internet lore has it that support for the Kepler instruction set was permanently removed after the 47x.xx driver versions, so that shouldn't even be possible.
@@arenzricodexd4409 The latest driver for Kepler is 475.14 from 9th of July 2024, there is no 15th of October 2024 driver for Kepler, and certainly not one on the 565.90 version we see in the video.
The cool thing about it being detected as a 4090 is you get the latest driver updates. The scammers have really managed to create something special here, whether they know it or not.
They actually do sell it for $30 as a GTX 670. I would link it here, but well, RUclips would delete my comment. Amazing video, I am so surprised that it wasn't some kind of GTS 450 thing haha.
What you have stumbled onto here is nvidia dirty little secret of gimping older cards. Back up that bios and flash with the correct on from techpowerup and rerun the benchmarks and try to play the same games.
Daaaaaaamn, what a steal. To all the naysayers saying this is a "scam" where is your sense of holiday joy, maybe the seller just wanted to spread christmas cheer with their very legit and competitively priced graphics cards.
By definition it is a change paid for a 4090 and didn’t get a 4090 it’s a scam and false advertisement but however the card is leaps and bounds above the normal scam card you would get
So it's a scam card that for the price, is better than many legit card you've featured? What a world! I have a friend who is on a very limited income and she lost her PC in a flood last year. One of these scam cards might actually dare I say, be good for her situation. Baffling.
I recommend against getting one of these for a budget build. They trick the drivers into believing it's a different card, causing all sorts of issues and crashes. For the same price you can get a real GTX 680 which is more powerful than this modded 670 and surely more stable.
The fact that so much effort went into making the card functional at that price point leads me to believe that the scam isn’t so much getting a crazy good card for super low prices but more that they could get private information like bank info or other passwords through some key logging software already on the card. I have no idea how that would work but if this is a scam (and it is) it still important to ask yourselves if something is too good to be true. Imo, getting a functioning card at a reasonable price when it’s obviously a scam.. that bit is too good to be true.
It was kepler legacy driver not main driver. Nvidia already said that they will support the legacy driver for another 3 years after main support endded.
GTX 670 or 760 Ti by the looks of it These came equipped with a cut down version of the GK104 chip, also found in the GTX 660, 680, or 770 in various configurations
This is a Dell OEM GTX 760 ti. I have this card. Pulled it from an Alienware X51 R2 (old SFF prebuild) it crashes just like this one does. Now im 100% convinced even the latest official drivers (475.14) Nvidia released for Kepler just break the card.
The fact that it runs better than an actual 670 with stock firmware and drivers is kind of mind blowing. Reach out to them, my Radeon 4650 on my laptop could use a boost.
I wish that was going on in Brazil as well. Here, scam cards still are GeForce 210 and GT610, *sometimes*, but rarely, a 710. Most of those being sold as RX480/580...
I recognized the shader count right away because I have one.. If you flash the correct VBIOS, the GPU can run CS2 at higher resolutions. The restriction is due to the fact the firmware has been given a hatchet job. Frankly, I'm impressed it ran like it did because of the fact it has spoofed the installer to install the 40 series driver. But I guess that's because CUDA cores still basically work the same way. Still, a 670 can do a lot better than that in GTAV. I get like 120fps on mine at 1440p Ultra. I get over 100fps most of the time at 1440p Ultra in Bioshock infinite. Crysis runs at like 140fps at 1440p Ultra on mine. I don't even have it paired with a modern CPU. I specifically bought it as a 1440p GPU for older games, something it does very well. Because of the firmware hack, this 670 is performing worse than a Quadro K2200, which is a substantially weaker GPU. If you took a r9 280 and passed it off as a 7900XTX, I doubt it would do anything except be a basic display adapter. Not sure what the scam is because I just willingly paid $30 for a GTX 670 SC a few months ago. Also, this GPU isn't really using 125% of the power limit. It just isn't reporting correctly due to the hacked VBIOS. This is what a standard 670 should draw. The SC I have draws nearly 200W.
There have always been rumors that Nvidia artificially cripples their GPUs with their drivers so that people leave older GPUs behind and upgrade. This lends some evidence to those rumors/hypotheses. A Kepler card shouldn't be doing what it's doing in these games, but here we are. I'd love to see the same done to a GTX 980 or 1080.
Given that they somehow made a kepler card work with up to date official nvidia drivers (it would be one thing if it was using some custom frankendrivers) even though the drivers officially haven't supported kepler for like 2-3 years seems to indicate the current drivers still mostly support kepler cards they just don't feel like going through testing for them.
@@olnnnnvidia still support kepler under their legacy driver program. The driver being used here is not on the same branch as the main driver. There is no conspiracy theory here like nvidia purposely gimp kepler performance or not support kepler in newest main driver.
@@arenzricodexd4409 They support Kepler GPUs on a very old branch, and here we see a Kepler GPU running on latest 565.90 drivers. So, Kepler can work with those, Nvidia just doesn't feel like allowing it and forces you to use ancient drivers not optimized for modern games instead.
i am heavily interested in videos like these because I've used an integrated graphics card for well over 6-7 years, and only now recently upgraded to an actual graphics card, but this still makes me feel weird. Overall 13 minutes in and its an amazing video I've watched today
sadly yes, a lot of times its people who were told a gift someone wants and having absolutely no idea about gpus they just buy the cheapest thing with that name they can buy
Very seldom, much more often its someone whos bored and is financially comfortable. Id seriously consider it for $20, worst case scenario you're out $20 and have ewaste. More likely you get a few hours of entertainment trying to figure out what they sent you and what theyve done to it, then you can turn around and sell it for $15 and someone will buy it.
I used to watch your content 7 to 8 years ago, you were my favorite youtuber because your content revolved around cheap, old junk hardware, something I was rocking myself as a poor kid. Nowadays I can afford to play any game at any config but I’ve long lost interest. Although, I still like your content as much as before. Keep it up! 👍🏻
It's the new 0-megabyte tech, it can do infinite compression. It is actually working, you can already send data to it, even a terabyte, but there are still issues with the retrieval of any of the data. But they are on it.
Budget builds, I just helped my grandma replace her old athlon II X2PC. Before then, I was very unfamiliar with the whole AM3 bundle. I now have a dell Inspiron that I just ordered a phenom ii X6 for. To get to my point, I am very curious about how these older phenoms do today, especially after the old core i7 "getting better with age" due to having 8 threads, and modern tasks being able to utilize all those threads.
I saw a scammer put an actual keppler chip on a 4090 board and sell it as a broken 4090 for $1200. I feel bad for whoever bought it thinking it was a broken 4090.
Imagine all this old tech being re-purposed and resold into an a fully fledged plug and play emulation box or DIY arcade cabinet .. That I would appreciate and would be an excellent way to save old hardware being thrown into landfill
The funny part is, if the bios was reporting the correct GPU, it would perform as good and not crash as much, is it wouldn't report to the drivers with features it doesn't have.
Here’s a challenge idea: Build a functional computer entirely out of functioning scam parts. You’ve already got the graphics card. If you can play counter strike (low bar) technically a win.
Make it Crysis
@@consolelivesmatter damn, my 4060ti drops to 40 frames in 1080p in crysis3 sometimes. with ultra setttings. but goddamn is it a gorgeous game! even the first one is good looking.
Build a complete computer to play civ2.exe
Read an article about scam Ryzen 9800X3Ds just the other day. What a perfect CPU to pair with this "4090"!
@ I can only hope that the scam CPU would actually work with the scam motherboard
I can't wait for a future where you expect to buy a 9090, but you get scammed and receive a wimpy 4090 instead.
Just look at the price lol. But this kind of fake card usually only happen with fermi and kepler due to those card can use modded BIOS. the used market was quite rampant back then with this so with maxwell nvidia only make official signed BIOS can work with those card (which those that want to use modded BIOS and open source group of people hate) So you will not going to see maxwell (and above) being disguise as a differrent card.
Yes!!!!!!
No you'd get a rx 6400 lol😂
@@Direwoof Or an RTX 4010 DDR4 Edition.
@@arenzricodexd4409 And, yet, you can still BIOS mod a newer NVIDIA GPU anyway.
The Physics Effects Paper is WILD lmaooo
That really was a wild random inclusion!
SMH😅
I was hoping it was an Ageia Physx card. Too bad, as those are rare now.
I work in customs, and we do open packages, but we are REQUIRED to reseal them. we even have our own tape that specifically says "opened and resealed by customs" all over it
Your username is wrong 😂
Why would they have opened that one?
@@MikesSoftLemonade Because the person that saw 4090 on the paperwork was like "No Fkn way!".
What happens if the item is damaged during inspection? Do you let the owner know?
@@fokthewef the owner will know... eventually
Like falling for a honey trap scam and finding out she has a heart of gold, makes the best BLT sandwiches you ever had and actually does want to marry you and live happily ever after. Beautiful! *wipes tears*
Finally, a 4090 I can afford. Time to pair it with my AMD Sempron.
😅 that's a good cpu it can even open Microsoft explorer. What a beast will it be with this 4090 indeed.
@@deniskornja762 Nah 4090 will bottleneck this cpu, it's way too fast.
@@raymond3831 A GPU that won’t bottleneck Le Sempron (TM) hasn’t been invented yet
You guys joke but I built an early 2000s gaming rig for free with 90s games in mind. Some kind of Sempron board from the local recycling centre with an equally e-waste ATI AGP card. Flies in stuff like Half Life and has full Windows 98 support. Some people pay hundreds for PIII systems with fancy Nvidia TNT cards, just get a damn Sempron for free instead.
🥰🥰🥰😜😂😂🤣🤣
I cant believe customs stole your 4090 and swapped it with a modified GTX 670! I would file a complaint with the government and demand they give you a new 4090 as recompense.
My friend bought a tablet from aliexpress, and a cardboard with a Temu logo arrived inside an open aliexpress box.
It took the police 20 minutes to find the custom that stole the tablet because the idiot was bragging about it with his coworkers
$30 for 4090? Lol, definitely not customs
@@keithkd4095its a joke bro
@@keithkd4095 Definitely a joke tho bro
Rip those who bought 670 at launch the true scammed
they could literally just sell these as what they are, a GTX 670 with a modded bios and drivers, they clearly put some effort into making sure the card was actually functional, this is literally more usable than a stock GTX 670. they could just advertise "we're breathing new life into old GPU architectures" "were doing our part to reduce and repurpose E-waste" they have such a good opportunity to sell a legitimate product but they chose to try and peddle it off as something that it isnt
They can't do it without nvidia's permission, since there is obvious modding of bios and hardware going on. Best they can do is to be a blatant scammer whom nvidia would laugh their as* off and don't care. If you think about it, these scammers are actually quite noble for putting that much dangerous effort into valueless cards and still sell them for a chump exchange.
Or better yet just sell them as 670's with 670 drivers. Nobody who's buying a PC for modern gaming would want to cheap out on their GPU anyways. But for a media center PC, they're perfectly fine. I still use my 650 every day on one of my computers. Only real issue though is that the 670 idles at 15watts, whereas a 650 would be half that.
@@jareddoesstuff358 i remember mine 650. Wild GK107 (450) with 1GB of DDR5. I had oc'd mine to 1258MHz core and 1400MHz memory, without anything. It just was "dial and run" settings.
@@teleman07 yes they can? you can sell stuff you own???
@@teleman07 Nvidia absolutely aren't sanctioning this. the bios is wide open, I've modded my bios. The knowledge needed to design the hardware is available from slightly more legit companies that got it from Nvidia.
The PhysX paper was the most randomliest thing to put into package
In color. Printing that actually cost money
Not really, could have been a door handle.. or a dog collar…
I can't believe customs stole your 4090 and replaced it with that!
And you got it at such a good price...
An RTX 4090 with an SLI connector? You should buy a second one and run them in SLI. That should be quite the beast. 🤣
Zero performance multiplied by 2 😹😹
@@TigerNationDE cooking in the comments lol
An absolute crusher.
0 megabytes of memory? What a powerhouse!
😂 lmao.
0 mb=infinity!
human eye can only see 512kb worth of image anyway
This 4090 is so powerful it doesnt need silly things like vram
Zero/ limitless
Nah bro, is customs who swapped your 4090
That would be the biggest twist ever: somehow they shipped a $2k card for $30, but customs realized and pocketed it themselves.
This is the painfully obvious fake products. Now imagine how much stuff is non-obvious fake stuff they punp out and gets sold online/Amazon/etc
@@whohan779 actually customs wanted to do just that, but they were sad when they saw it's a scam card.
lol
@whohan779 Customs actually swapped the fake 4090 and put in a half decent card. And played themselves.
That point when you're torn between being upset about the scam card and being impressed at how capable the scam card actually is.
Any channel that has the balls to actually snap this in a motherboard and pin it up earned my respect,just subbed!!
That's a steal, look at those benchmarks! It's perfect! It can even be installed into a retro XP machine and you can brag to your friends you're rocking a 4090 playing some good'ol pinball!
I bet it would be hell to get working in XP with the bios trickery they pulled off, rather than running it as the original card.
But this is what happens when e waste is shipped away, people don't know what they are scrapping, and also overpay for modern cards.
If there lying abt the specs then it will most likely break down after a month.
Dude, not get scammed on a scam card is wild. This card was actually worth the money well beyond worth the money.
30 quid for a 670 isnt that bad actually is it? (says me still runnign a gtx680! a perfectly capable card still)
@@fuzzblightyear145 Yeah it does seem like it is a 680,. I have seen gtx 680 looking like that exact model. 30 quid for that isnt terrible at all.
It has countless problems
@@AlexDoodle Sure, for a something like computer aimed to play retro games from the era it might be worth it to some hobbyists. But it doesn't excuse people being misled like this to make profit (even if buying 4090 so cheap would make receiver rather clueless if they thought they somehow get 4090 at that price in pristine condition especially.)
FR, a RX550 for example is twice the price and half the performance lmao
It looks like less of a scam than buying an actual 4090.
amd paid actor detected.
@@pothitoskourtis how is the price of a 4090 not a scam when you can build a whole gaming pc with that money!
@@pothitoskourtis leather jacket fanboy detected. No sane person pays over 2000EUR for a graphics card.
@@RuruFIN no one is forcing you to buy one...theres so many options but if you want the best one you gotta pay for it..
@@GM-Shenmue if you want the best of the best you have to pay for it, your logic makes no sense.
most interesting example of EXCEEDING CUSTOMER EXPECTATIONS
i have ever seen!
Bro is speaking with the same mannerisms as Jeremy clarkson
Exactly what i thought too
it's english accent, that's all
The Englishman sounds like an Englishman? Whodathunkit ☺️
Lol I said that above too :-)
I love how active this channel has become over the past months. Great content, always a joy to watch, my man. :)
and his voice is really relaxing. I'm not even watching it, I've just got it on the background while I get over the flu.
@@scatchef Hehe, understandable. Sometimes I throw his stuff on when laying in bed just listening. :D
the famous 4090 in 28nm
How big would the chip be I wonder?
@@xenotone3284 a fifth of a toenail in american terms
@@xenotone3284 should roughly be 34cm² ... sooo pretty huge
@@tezcanaslan2877wait how does a toenail relate to a football field??
@@tezcanaslan2877 please elaborate in bigmac terms
My 32 terabyte USB drive for $9 works fine, don't be so cynical :D
oh Jon..you got scammed..I got a 64 TB flash for 7 dollars 50 from AliExpress..I was a bit dubious of its capacity too until it saved a few word documents on it..that's proof it's got the storage it claims..
Link please ? I really need 1 of those 😁😁
But he dont know, that 32 TB are only 2 Tb 🙈
Try 64 gb @@AlexFuOne
@@AlexFuOne2mb*
The irony of a Bethesda game running on a scam card is pretty epic. 😂😂😂😂
I have that exact card but with the correct bios. It’s a GTX 760Ti. A rebranded GTX 670 sold to OEMs like Dell. Even though it was sold as a 700 series it didn’t have all the newer features. Performance wise it sat between 760 and 770.
The printed PowerPoint slide sold it to me
To be honest Arthas you are known to have very poor judgment in Warcraft 3
@@clochard4074 give me the name of your city, please. I must do something...
@@arthasmenethil2201buddy got called out😭
I like the warning about voiding warranty if unofficial drivers are used 🤣
when, you know, they've done back-alley surgery on the bios and called it a 4090
Judging by the cooler/shroud and the power connectors I'm guessing it's going to turn out to be an OEM GTX 760. I'm writing this before watching the rest of the video so it's going to fun to see if I got it right.
Edit: I was very close seeing as the GTX 670 and GTX 760 are effectively identical.
Edit 2: I just saw a notification that this comment was "hearted" however me editing it removed the heart.
Yep. GTX 760 ti OEM. I have the same card and it crashes exactly like this. I wonder if the latest official drivers are also just broken for Kepler?
@@yeetus59 The latest official drivers (566.14 for example) shouldn't support Kepler at all as in 2021 Nvidia reduced Kepler's driver support to only security updates and the latest driver version compatible with Kepler GPUs is 475.14.
It is actually the 760Ti which is identical to the 670. They didn't even raise the clocks.
7:24 LOL, I love that you propped up the graphics card on a dirty bird fountain and coffee cup
It actually makes sense that it ran GTAV fine. A GTX670 was a relevant GPU when GTAV came out in 2011.
GTAV came out in 2011? interesting....
GTA5 was sep 2013
Earlier this year I picked up three GTX 680 4GB cards, and I was pretty surprised by how capable they still were in the games they can run. Especially in SLI on the older titles like The Witcher (pre-nextgen) and GTA V.
Indeed!!!
True! I used a gtx 680 2GB and i is great!
My nephews come around to play farm sim 22 on an old pc with a 770 ti. Runs pretty reasonable until there's to many equipment in view
@Filipex13 I used my GTX 660 up until 2023 for GTA V and so on , Even played Ark Survival Evolved on it .
@@killerdeamonking thats cool, my gtx 680 died in august, but it was fun while it lasted ;) (paired with i3 10100f i could get almost 300fps on portal2, which was amazing for an almost 11 year old gpu)
What fascinates me is that GPU-Z isn't detecting it as a scam card, yet it was able to detect the actual chipset, which is a GK104. They should update it to detect these newer-ish scams again.
It could unfortunately give far too many false positives.
@SweBeach2023 Nah, GPU-Z was doing it when they started detecting fake GPUs back then, no false positives. They just need to update for these "new" cards.
Probably they change chip on videocard.
@@VITAS874 The chip was detected correctly by GPU-Z. So they did something else.
@@StriderVM Most likely they re-soldered the contacts and installed a different version.
So hang on, the Kepler is "not supported" by the latest drivers, but it got the latest drivers and mostly works, the non working bits being asking for more memory than it has, or functions it cant do.
Always thought it was strange that the Maxwell v1 GTX 750 was supported when Kepler wasn't, when Maxwell v1 isn't really any different in capabilities - still a DX12 FL11.
Nvidia did the dirty on Kepler, it seems, really need a Nimez treatment for the Nvidia drivers.
Usually, fake cards will be a total failure with the latest real drivers
Yeah this is actually really strange how it manages to use the up to date drivers that don't normally support kepler, and automatically no less.
Even the custom aliexpress cards that put mobile gpus on desktop cards need modded drivers to work as the official ones refuse to install on them yet this scam card manages to just work with drivers that don't even support the architecture...
It was the latest driver from kepler legacy support not the latest driver from main driver. Unlike AMD nvidia legacy driver support are very active.
@@arenzricodexd4409 It's a bit blurry, but I can definitely see 566 ... legacy (Kepler security update) would be 475
This took me by surprise. Internet lore has it that support for the Kepler instruction set was permanently removed after the 47x.xx driver versions, so that shouldn't even be possible.
@@arenzricodexd4409 The latest driver for Kepler is 475.14 from 9th of July 2024, there is no 15th of October 2024 driver for Kepler, and certainly not one on the 565.90 version we see in the video.
And the keylogger is installed correctly thank you for buy our product
Can you imagine if there really was a $30 4090? Jensen would probably have a heart attack.
Someone would definitely owe him another leather jacket 😡
The cool thing about it being detected as a 4090 is you get the latest driver updates. The scammers have really managed to create something special here, whether they know it or not.
technically it's not really difficult as it looks
Well yes😂. For 30 bucks there is nothing to complain
Cant rly so anything with the drivers tho
You've got some balls plugging that piece of dodge into a working mobo!
I’m sure it’s a sacrificial testing rig . Look at cpu cooler
They actually do sell it for $30 as a GTX 670. I would link it here, but well, RUclips would delete my comment. Amazing video, I am so surprised that it wasn't some kind of GTS 450 thing haha.
Could probably find a GTX 670 firmware and flash it back to factory, then you'll just have a GTX 670.
@@Zerbey Yep, exactly what I was thinking lmao.
technically it's not youtube deleting your links, it's a setup from author's channel that's preventing to put any links
Hi, from which site is it from, I source for one, m actually interested in testing it myself
@ aliexpress
What you have stumbled onto here is nvidia dirty little secret of gimping older cards.
Back up that bios and flash with the correct on from techpowerup and rerun the benchmarks and try to play the same games.
Imagine if the customs guy stayed up all night to fix the scam card
Daaaaaaamn, what a steal. To all the naysayers saying this is a "scam" where is your sense of holiday joy, maybe the seller just wanted to spread christmas cheer with their very legit and competitively priced graphics cards.
build a snowman! spread christmas cheer!
@@mckelepicwe don’t get snow here:(
@@mckelepic hello mckel
By definition it is a change paid for a 4090 and didn’t get a 4090 it’s a scam and false advertisement but however the card is leaps and bounds above the normal scam card you would get
4:17 I can't stop laughing at the guy packing the 4090 like a magazine. If the game crashes mid game, no problem I'll just pack another one
So it's a scam card that for the price, is better than many legit card you've featured? What a world! I have a friend who is on a very limited income and she lost her PC in a flood last year. One of these scam cards might actually dare I say, be good for her situation. Baffling.
Thats it you even get the same card.
@@krazykuz13cmc yes cuz so many put like a GTS 450 or whatever which are horrible
I mean if you can get a return and keep if you would have card for free xd
I recommend against getting one of these for a budget build. They trick the drivers into believing it's a different card, causing all sorts of issues and crashes. For the same price you can get a real GTX 680 which is more powerful than this modded 670 and surely more stable.
Lol sounds like ur friend lives in a fema trailer
The fact that so much effort went into making the card functional at that price point leads me to believe that the scam isn’t so much getting a crazy good card for super low prices but more that they could get private information like bank info or other passwords through some key logging software already on the card.
I have no idea how that would work but if this is a scam (and it is) it still important to ask yourselves if something is too good to be true. Imo, getting a functioning card at a reasonable price when it’s obviously a scam.. that bit is too good to be true.
Ah yes the jeremy clarckson of computers
I can't believe they somehow managed to get current drivers running on what is unsupported hardware
It was kepler legacy driver not main driver. Nvidia already said that they will support the legacy driver for another 3 years after main support endded.
@@arenzricodexd4409 565.x is clearly not legacy driver for kepler
FINALLY A GRAPHICS CARD I CAN BUY.🗿
GTX 670 or 760 Ti by the looks of it
These came equipped with a cut down version of the GK104 chip, also found in the GTX 660, 680, or 770 in various configurations
I note the scare quotes around "RTX 4090 Graphics Card" on the thank-you card. Seems legit.
" hello valuable customer " 🤣
This is a Dell OEM GTX 760 ti. I have this card. Pulled it from an Alienware X51 R2 (old SFF prebuild) it crashes just like this one does. Now im 100% convinced even the latest official drivers (475.14) Nvidia released for Kepler just break the card.
Which is a rebranded 670.
The fact that it runs better than an actual 670 with stock firmware and drivers is kind of mind blowing. Reach out to them, my Radeon 4650 on my laptop could use a boost.
I wish that was going on in Brazil as well. Here, scam cards still are GeForce 210 and GT610, *sometimes*, but rarely, a 710. Most of those being sold as RX480/580...
I always go with the old saying "if it's too good to be true it probably isn't "
I recognized the shader count right away because I have one.. If you flash the correct VBIOS, the GPU can run CS2 at higher resolutions. The restriction is due to the fact the firmware has been given a hatchet job. Frankly, I'm impressed it ran like it did because of the fact it has spoofed the installer to install the 40 series driver. But I guess that's because CUDA cores still basically work the same way. Still, a 670 can do a lot better than that in GTAV. I get like 120fps on mine at 1440p Ultra. I get over 100fps most of the time at 1440p Ultra in Bioshock infinite. Crysis runs at like 140fps at 1440p Ultra on mine. I don't even have it paired with a modern CPU. I specifically bought it as a 1440p GPU for older games, something it does very well.
Because of the firmware hack, this 670 is performing worse than a Quadro K2200, which is a substantially weaker GPU.
If you took a r9 280 and passed it off as a 7900XTX, I doubt it would do anything except be a basic display adapter.
Not sure what the scam is because I just willingly paid $30 for a GTX 670 SC a few months ago.
Also, this GPU isn't really using 125% of the power limit. It just isn't reporting correctly due to the hacked VBIOS. This is what a standard 670 should draw. The SC I have draws nearly 200W.
I've seen gt 210's and 710's for $30 so it's still not a bad deal
Was a common scam a few years ago to sell a 710 with fake firmware, guess they ran out of those.
my research returns either a 670 or 760. both have identical specs since they are the same die, that make sense.
There have always been rumors that Nvidia artificially cripples their GPUs with their drivers so that people leave older GPUs behind and upgrade. This lends some evidence to those rumors/hypotheses. A Kepler card shouldn't be doing what it's doing in these games, but here we are. I'd love to see the same done to a GTX 980 or 1080.
Given that they somehow made a kepler card work with up to date official nvidia drivers (it would be one thing if it was using some custom frankendrivers) even though the drivers officially haven't supported kepler for like 2-3 years seems to indicate the current drivers still mostly support kepler cards they just don't feel like going through testing for them.
There is no driver crippling being done. This has been tested by various tech outlet in the past.
@@olnnnnvidia still support kepler under their legacy driver program. The driver being used here is not on the same branch as the main driver. There is no conspiracy theory here like nvidia purposely gimp kepler performance or not support kepler in newest main driver.
@@arenzricodexd4409 They support Kepler GPUs on a very old branch, and here we see a Kepler GPU running on latest 565.90 drivers. So, Kepler can work with those, Nvidia just doesn't feel like allowing it and forces you to use ancient drivers not optimized for modern games instead.
@@arenzricodexd4409 gpu-z shows it using the 566 driver though, not the legacy driver branch
i am heavily interested in videos like these because I've used an integrated graphics card for well over 6-7 years, and only now recently upgraded to an actual graphics card, but this still makes me feel weird.
Overall 13 minutes in and its an amazing video I've watched today
Still favorite techy channel! Good variety and you clearly love it as much as we do! Keep it up m8❤
Who actually buys these other than Tech Influencers looking for Video Content? Does anybody really think "OMG- a 4090 for almost nothing!! Must buy!"
sadly yes, a lot of times its people who were told a gift someone wants and having absolutely no idea about gpus they just buy the cheapest thing with that name they can buy
Very seldom, much more often its someone whos bored and is financially comfortable. Id seriously consider it for $20, worst case scenario you're out $20 and have ewaste. More likely you get a few hours of entertainment trying to figure out what they sent you and what theyve done to it, then you can turn around and sell it for $15 and someone will buy it.
I do
Repair shops for example, a real 4090 board, even without core and memory, can be used to fix up a card with a cracked PCB.
He wanted some arguing in comment section, he wanted people talking about it, that's his purpose.
Hate to break it to you, but you might've been scammed 😂
Who knows lol😂😂 the video came out 5 minutes ago and it's 24 minutes long , maybe he got his money worth in the end
Nah it reports as a 4090 so it must be one.
It was simply a loss in translation. Too many English characters. It's supposed to be an R4 90. 😁
I used to watch your content 7 to 8 years ago, you were my favorite youtuber because your content revolved around cheap, old junk hardware, something I was rocking myself as a poor kid.
Nowadays I can afford to play any game at any config but I’ve long lost interest. Although, I still like your content as much as before.
Keep it up! 👍🏻
Dude that isn't a scam at all that is actually an incredible deal for the performance of that card
It's no surprise that it ran some of the older titles smoothly, considering what the chip-set really is and when it was originally released.
If the cards were declared as refurbished Retro-Windows XP cards, they would be bought like crazy 😁
I agree 🤣
I hope this video makes you back your $30. Thank you for taking the hit for the rest of us.
you think?
This card probably worth 30$ on the market, just don’t brand it as a 4090.
Honestly surprised that the latest drivers ran fine on this unsupported old card
It was latest driver from kepler legacy support not driver from main branch.
I love how they don’t condone the use illegitimate software, but are absolutely fine with the use of illegitimate hardware.
That customs officer got himself a sweet upgrade!
3:39 it certainly is one of the graphics cards of all time, it's even remarkably recent if you're going off geological time
Ofc fallout 4 runs great on a weird bios flashed gtx 670 scam gpu, the only card to handle Bethesda's spaghetti code lol
i played and finished f4 on 560ti.
"It just works."
-Todd Howard
And since it's practically the same engine as Fallout 4, this is probably the best GPU you can buy if you plan to run Fallout 76!
I'm going to buy 2 of these and use SLI for better than 5090 perf.
You were very close with the GTX 670! You appear to have the refresh version from VBIOS versions and the PCB layout, same specs, sold as GTX 760 Ti.
It's the new 0-megabyte tech, it can do infinite compression. It is actually working, you can already send data to it, even a terabyte, but there are still issues with the retrieval of any of the data. But they are on it.
5:30 "A few odd things going on here" - as I look at _a long-defunct SLI slot_ to the right perfectly in view.
Budget builds, I just helped my grandma replace her old athlon II X2PC. Before then, I was very unfamiliar with the whole AM3 bundle. I now have a dell Inspiron that I just ordered a phenom ii X6 for. To get to my point, I am very curious about how these older phenoms do today, especially after the old core i7 "getting better with age" due to having 8 threads, and modern tasks being able to utilize all those threads.
Certainly one of the RTX cards of all time!
At least they dont use the stupid ‘racing stripe’ cooler anymore.
This is progress !
"better than 2% of results" that's quite impressive
I saw a scammer put an actual keppler chip on a 4090 board and sell it as a broken 4090 for $1200. I feel bad for whoever bought it thinking it was a broken 4090.
How did you see it if you weren't the one who bought it. You would have had to been in on it
@@wackeyful you can just...look at pictures~
seems legit.
Daymn what a steal, RTX4090 for 30-ish pounds!? Bless their souls.
Clearly a man of taste, I also have a Corsair 220t and a 90's volvo
Jeremy Clarkson having a pc channel before gta6 is wild
Me: Mom, can I get a 4090?
Mom: We already have a 4090 at home.
The 4090 at home
😂
something i would get under my temu christmas tree
30 pounds for an RTX 4090? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. /s
I would buy it out of curiosity
What does"/s" mean?
@@Quryam sarcasm.
@daemonspudguy thanks for explaining
Imagine all this old tech being re-purposed and resold into an a fully fledged plug and play emulation box or DIY arcade cabinet .. That I would appreciate and would be an excellent way to save old hardware being thrown into landfill
The funny part is, if the bios was reporting the correct GPU, it would perform as good and not crash as much, is it wouldn't report to the drivers with features it doesn't have.
16:33 Ah yes finally found bethesda optimized hardware
lmao
4:00 gonna guess an old quadro card maybe. I'll watch the rest of the video to see if I'm right. Close.
Imagine it was actually a 4090 and customs swiped it
Lmaoooo at 4:31 the moment you clicked the power button i got an an and it scared me i thought the PC blow up
Ewwww brother eewwwwwe
I feel sorry for people who have to suffer through ads lol
Understandable search from customs side tbh. You can easily use that chassis to hide illicit substances
Ngl, I personally feel like it's not a bad GPU for the price
next time try to flash her original bios back
Guys he knows he's been scammed when he brought it...that's the point. So no one else does.
This card could be worth buying for some people
12:23 bro got up after getting his chest crushed by a lorry like it was nothing 0-0
The instant I saw that shroud, my first thought was, "Is that a 600 series?"