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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Moving Towards A Subscription Model?
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- In this video, I argue that Jehovah's Witnesses already use a subscription model and tax their members for the privilege of being a Jehovah's Witnesses. I discuss 5 subscription models that I expect them to introduce within the next few years and discuss why I think these changes are imminent.
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Chaka Yumba is an ex-Jehovah's Witness elder, regular pioneer, SKE graduate and HLC member. This channel is a resource for anyone interested in scrutinising the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses and gaining an insight into how decisions are reached by Jehovah's Witness elders.
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I canceled my automatic donation to the org after I watched the Australian Royal Commission.
Wise decision! I'm sure they bank on the fact that some people will forget to cancel their direct debits.
I have a theory… The changes the organization has been making is to actually test their members to see how obedient they are to the society. I think they are preparing for something massive to really keep their members in
I absolutely love your content Chaka. I am a Pimo at the moment trying to get my brother and sister out of the CULT of JW'S. It is a challenge because they are so brainwashed... It is difficult to get past the cognitive dissonance that they have right now. I hope I can get them to leave soon. Thank you for all that you do greatly appreciated...
Thank you so much for your kind words 🙏🙏🙏 I've actually made a video about waking up family and friends that's coming out this Monday. It's a bit controversial so will be interesting to hear your thoughts 😬😬😬
Don't worry about your family. Get out for yourself.
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That's the first thing I thought when I read the OP's comment. Get yourself out. There's no way to know whether another person will or won't wake up. And there's no way to know "when" that person will wake up. So, waiting around for another person to wake up simply means that YOUR LIFE IS ON HOLD. We have lost so much to Watchtower. We should do all we can to enjoy what's left of our lives.
Wow same here as pimo trying to wake my sibling. I’ve shown this org article writing 1967 is the year of the end to my jw sibling but no response and worse started soft shunning😢imagine these jws even something wrong in their literatures and if will show it, I pimo am apostate to them😂
I'm in the same boat with my parents. I've been trying to plant seeds before I tell them I'm leaving but they are also heavily brainwashed. I guess we just keep doing the best we can and hopefully get them out.
I hate seeing little kids in suits, it looks so wrong
Man, if you missed ONE meeting back in the day, you were ridiculed & called weak. Now Zoom? The ultimate lazy way. They are absolutely ridiculous.
It's all downhill @jackijax🤦♂️
😂 from crossing crocodile filled rivers to ok better turn that zoom on its all so silly
They tell the public donations are voluntary, but every member /congregation/ country has different tithe they pay. They don't mention it as tithe but resolution. fake cover-up tithing ...hypocrites
Hey Giddy Giddy! 💯 As JT says, no one does hypocrisy like the Watchtower.
I remember paying for the magazines by subscription back in the day - and the 'resolution' passed each Thursday night - and signed the personal pledges!
This is actually a great point. They used to charge people for magazine subscriptions, so why not bring it back for JW stream etc...
My mom has been having watchtower take $25 a week out of her bank account for years, upsets me to no end
That's $100 a month. That's too much!
That's $1300 per year or $13,000 over 10 years .
That's a good holiday each year or a contribution to a medical savings fund.
"Helping Jehovah" The wording itself is very deliberate. As if she hasn't been told to say that ...
Yes, it's like the recent WT article that said Jesus will be helped by the Governing Body to execute his enemies
@@AnthonyMorrisReturnsI thought thunderbolts came from his eyeballs, why would he need helpers? 🤣🤣🤣
When I was regularly attending meetings it was endless resolutions and I wondered why they always needed money all the time. It pissed me of but I "closed my nose" and raised reluctantly my hand to support
It's probably even worse now than when you attended the meetings. Congregations now are only allowed to keep 3 months operating expenses in their accounts. So if they have any excess they are required to send it off to the organisation so that calls for a resolution on its own. Also, most elders don't do this, but when they present a resolution to the congregation they are meant to give the audience an opportunity to ask questions. It would be interesting if someone just challenged the elders and said "let's not send that money to the branch. Why don't we use it to pay for Sister So-and-so's hospital bills."
If they didn't have the idea, they do now as they are constantly getting their ideas from RUclips apostates.
I liked when Lett said it coats " billions each month " to keep the world wide work going . But theres only 8 million jdubs
Lett the millionaire😬😬😬This is actually a great point! Even if they spent $1 million on each JW it still wouldn't come to that. Plus they don't even have a wage bill, so they make 100 percent profit from the donations.
The only meeting anthony morris is attending is the AA meeting!
I'm crying 😂😂😂😂
this should make us sick...
Sorry if I sound stupid, but I didn't understand this comment...
tithing by stealth they are getting more like other religions every day
The '700 Hundred Club' has worked in the USA Cristian community since 1966
Tried and tested 💰
This is where Lett got the "From the world headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses... " sign. On CBS they used to say "From Virginia Beach Virginia, this is CBS!"
absolutely great information & exposure of these ghouls, thank you good brother
I know a family who lost their father, the mother had died years before, and he let the JW org have the largest share of the inheritance; he left hardly anything for his three offspring. I genuinely DESPISE this cult.
It's absolutely disgraceful! In Eastern Europe people commonly accuse JWs of taking away people's property. I remember finding that accusation crazy but now I realise how so accurate it is.
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns The love of money is the root of all evil, and yet JW seems to have the love of money, and a the same time brainwash its followers to go as far as to leave family members should they dare questions the constant old light/new light flip flopping.
Its called a pioneer seminar i never went, i told the elders that's entirely too much worship 😂😂😂😂 seminar plus assembly 🙄 no thanks and every year always the friends ended up beings so sick from exhaustion constantly wearing themselves out especially the older friends i couldn't believe how much common sense they lacked regarding " self care " 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
The reward for working hard in that religion is more work and more meetings
Sophia’s mother’s putting money in that box should’ve been enough for “one” family to donate, but this org wanted more of money from child of this family😮
It's a psychological tactic. They want kids to grow up with the indoctrination that they need to donate no matter what their circumstances.
My old hall got renovated but the congregations are getting old and dying off. I think they will sell it off since the market is hot and there’s another hall 30 minutes away.
You cannot serve God and Mammon somebody once said
I always thought that contributing to the world wide work meant going out in the service. I remember the time when no one was coerced to contribute money, in fact they were extremely proud that they did not ask for money and at one time they said that it is a sign they are the truth.
They've always been interested in money. There was a time they used to charge a fixed price for their publications.
Your production quality has drastically improved. Keep up the good work.
Trying to represent well and be taken seriously 😊😊😊 Thank you so much for your kind words🙏🙏🙏
It could actually save JWs a lot of money if they watch an assembly from the comfort of their homes. Quite a lot of expense to attend an assembly in person, and even more cost if you have a family.
I'm sure these are some of the arguments they'll be using in the Governing Body update or annual meeting talk that announces these changes🤭🤭🤭
I can totally see any of these happening
I was in meditation and prayer last night
I was awakened by a shining bright light
Overhead a glorious spirit, he gave me a message and you all need to hear it
"Send me your money," that's what he said
He said to "Send me your money"
Now if you can only send a dollar or two
There ain't a hell of a lot I can promise to you
But if you wants to see heaven's door
Make out a check for five hundreds or more
"Send me your money", do you hear what I said?
"Send me your money"
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Send them a cheque for a penny, if you must, never a DD or SO. 😂😂
Ahh they get them to automatic take from personally checking account since KH everywhere will be sold soon.They will watch videos for their meetings. The big churches do it now. In NY and Australia building video studios plus they have acting school..JW.Acting .In year 2000 WT/JW change business status from a religion to video publishing company. I heard JW end of world now coming year 2034. ...the studios be done then
Oh wow! Do they have an actual acting school?
Their is NO proof of this acting school. I'm PIMO living in New york city! With many bethelites in my hall 😂😂😂! Sometimes apostates go overboard with stories
@@nenala7684 Relax! You're taking things too personally😃😃😃
Thanks for the video
All of these changes are making it seem more challenging for persons to access a meeting, based on the scriptures, jesus and the disciples did not engage in this type of behavour. Attending meetings should be very easy because it should be that anyone feels welcomed to attend, why all of these restrictions and obstacles?
Help jehovah every month 😮 what a crooked way to get money😢😢😢 I hate them more and more! Merci du Québec 😊
What would Jehovah do without the Governing Body🤭🤭🤭
@@AnthonyMorrisReturnsyeah Jehovah needs the GB to bankroll him, how ludicrous it's twisted 180°
Very intresting thoughts as always Chaka! I can totally see some or all of these changes happening. Some JWs might argue that they are really pushing for in person and that these changes can never happen. I would just throw the question did you ever think that ypu would see guys with beards or women wearing pants at the hall? Watch them go quiet and think. The governing body changes its mind like the wind. And they are just getting more and more turbulent as time goes on. Also they aren't even giving scriptural reasons for the changes anymore. Crazy times. I feel like im watching a JW weather report. Lol
Hey MovieMan! Great to hear your thoughts. I like the weather report analogy 😅😅😅 Although the weather report is more accurate than these charlatans and the weather forecaster doesn't claim to be God's channel of communication🤭🤭🤭
I agree, I think they will continue pushing for in-person attendance, but once they realise the majority of JWs in Western countries are not being compliant they will sell off properties and make in-person attendance a "privilege" you either have to work for or pay for. And yes, why do they have to bother explaining all these changes when suffice to say "The Governing Body has decided..."🤭🤭🤭
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns Totally agree. Also I put that weather remark in a weird spot in my reply. I meant watching your video was like watching a JW weather report. But I guess it also fits the governing body as well. Atleast you have the integrity to say that these things may happen. They have been saying things in the name of god for over 100 years that have not come true and also have negatively effected people's lives,even leading to thier deaths. But I forgot they dont have to apologize for being wrong. Very disturbing.
@@Movieman64 ah that's very kind of you😊😊😊 I plan to document Winder refusing to apologise on the Governing Body diaries🤭🤭🤭
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns Sure thing😁 Also look forward to that. That clip is going to live on and be replayed alot. It just really shows thier arrogance and also that they really dont care at all about the rank and file.
@@Movieman64 Yes, it will age well😄😄😄 I think since the death of the last original Governing Body member which was John Barr in 2010 these impostors well and truly turned into the "evil slave.:
just lost my girlfriend to this religion because of her parents what sould i do now guys im kinda lost and dont know what to do
So sorry to hear this. I've made a video that's coming out on Monday that may have some ideas for you to think about.
Yes I believe they will stream everything also, the reason because of degradation of world conditions
Im such a recluse anyway that would be great.
If they are watching. You may have given them ideas they may not already have thought of 😅
They are a corporation and a business plus they always boast of planning 10-15 years ahead. Also why do they have a streaming service apart from jw.org if they don't plan to monetise it. When it all comes to pass say you heard it here first😊😊😊
I agree with everything you're saying as it's been my line of thinking as well but i am just wondering why all this money? They live in dorms or apartments at bethel, right? And most age out there so why do they need/want so much money
Well, why does Lett, who claims he has a one way ticket to heaven, keep investing in properties, most famously going in halves with his brother on $500,000 property... Their words and actions do not align at all.
@AnthonyMorrisReturns yeah absolutely agree with you! It's just all bizarre given how old they are. Maybe they really do think paradise is coming and they will have all these extraordinary properties and homes to live in? Who knows?!
@@shyfranklinstein9650 Well, if they believe they are going to heaven how are they going to live in properties which are on earth... It's funny that they call themselves the "faithful and discreet slave" when they very much fulfill the parable in the next few verses of the evil slave who thinks his master is delaying and starts to beat his fellow slaves. Exhibit A is them building Warwick for themselves.
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns ohhhh please do a video on this!!!
@@shyfranklinstein9650 It's actually a great idea for a video: "Have The Faithful and Discreet Slave Turned Into The Evil Slave?"
For years JWs have boasted that they don't tithe or pass the plate for collections. What justice it is to see them scratch and claw and sell off the family silver (ie KHalls) to make ends meet.
It's yet another Watchtower lie. Technically speaking they don't tithe but they definitely tax each publisher.
Jehovah needs money it seems
Been a subscription model for years the same as any other religions
Omfg...life insurance policy? Really? What.Did.I.Just.Hear?
Indeed! It's not like people have families that could benefit from those policies
Tell them I'll send you mine if you send me yours. 👍🐑
Insert George Carlin meme
receiving a brief out of season FM E-skip on the 24th May (Australia), 87.6 was in & is usually a God Squad station & guess what they had on??? yep you guessed it........a shameless money beg!!
Hmmm. When Tony returns, will he be wearing tight pants?
Literally everyone wants to know the answer to that question 😅😅😅
So the God of everything and the universe needs money and needs humans to spread his word? Wouldn't you think the god of everything and the universe, being so powerful, be able to do it without humans?
If New York chooses to build a tunnel under the river to allow access to the other side of the river it does not mean building a bridge or using a ferry system instead wouldnt have not been just as good. You draw a classic false dichotomy. No one believes God “needs” anything. He can “chose” to do things as He wishes though.👍🏻
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So WT is moving from the freemium model to subscription+freemium model?
I love it!
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns to anyone who doesn’t know freemium, it’s a business model which I believe starts in games, in particular iPhone games, which you can play for free, but in order to play properly or even to progress, you need to pay a hefty price to buy the in game currencies. And those who spent a lot, are called of course the biggest creatures in the world, the whales.
In my observation, freemium existed since religion existed, because that’s the exact business model each and every single religion uses, which implies all religions are businesses.
@@LittleRadicalThinker It's a perfect analogy
All powerful God needs donations,strange😂
This is just giving WT ideas. There are so many PIMO's out there, apostates will get their hands on material anyway.
I don't think I'm giving them ideas. WT is a corporation so they've already explored all the options I've discussed and some. Of course, apostates will get their hands on stuff but WT will use it as an excuse to milk their followers.
Sorry, are the donations for JW worldwide work and JW congregations voluntary (as bible and JW claim to bible students) or compulsory?
@@elvenrights2428 Hi again Elven. Donations from individual JWs are voluntary. However, congregations are required to send a specific amount of money to Watchtower each month: The amount is calculated by using a fixed sum set by Watchtower and multiplying it by the number of congregation members (referred to as "Publishers"). In the UK this year the amount set by Watchtower was £5 per publisher. Congregations also need to pay for the maintenance of the buildings they use for worship (referred to as "Kingdom Halls") and also for the running of their larger gatherings (referred to as "assemblies and conventions"). If the amount received from donations is not enough to cover these costs, elders give talks and announcements pressuring JWs to donate more to make up for the deficit... as Watchtower will not cover these costs.
Also congregations have to pay for the food, housing and travel expenses of what's called a "circuit overseer" and his wife. This is basically an inspector who visits each congregation twice a year to ensure that the elders are implementing all of Watchtower's policies.
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns and what do JW and JW congregations get in return for all the money paid to Watchtower's worldwide work? 1 issue of Watchtower per month doesn't cost 5 GBP (6 EUR) per month...
@@elvenrights2428 They get to attend indoctrination sessions at the Kingdom Hall etc where they are trained to do free work for Watchtower like going door knocking and trying recruit new members. Basically Watchtower gives nothing back to its members. They just take and take and take.
@@AnthonyMorrisReturns It is very sad.
@@elvenrights2428 Would you consider coming onto the channel? I'd love to do a video of a non JW asking me about the JW belief system. If you're interested please send an email to television2087@gmail.com
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What! The BEST GIFT to Jah😮while indoctrinated I must have pushed aside that statement in that donation video! How dare a God is happy people giving MONEY to him and says it’s the Best Gift I ever have😂
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Jehovah is fucking rich then😂😂😂 big hello from Québec 😊 had to watch it again 😊
He's doing well for himself 😃😃😃Hello from sunny Leicestershire😃😃😃
I'm too old to be drafted 😢
I see what you've done there 😃😃😃
You can be like the Old Lady who lives in a Shoe ,she has so much money she doesn't know what to do ,just don't tell the GB otherwise they will be on to You, and Thanks to our friend for giving us the Clues ******** .GB will go broke if everyone puts in as much as we do, Zero, 😊😢😊🎉* .×
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You are very handsome and i love your work..but where are you getting information that publishers are expected to pay 5$ per month for world wide worrk? I been in the truth all my life..this seems like your making this up 😮
I'm not making anything up. Please be careful about making such accusations without any facts to the contrary. I don't know when last you attended JW meetings but at least for the last 10 years they've been asking congregations to send a fixed amount each month to the worldwide work based on a calculation of a specific amount multiplied by the number of publishers. As I said in the video, in the United Kingdom for the 2024 service year the price is £5 per publisher. Obviously, this is different for each country. If you don't believe me send me an email and I'll send you the proof.
He is correct. The elders are instructed to make a resolution before the congregation to make a fixed amount per publisher “donation”. The amount per publisher is determined by the branch. It is presented as a resolution to give the appearance of a voluntary contribution. But it always passes. And if the amount isn’t sent it every month then the elders will get a talking to from the circuit overseer. Personal donations are counted as above that amount.
Its a set amount per publisher via resolution but each individual is not required to make that specific amount. For example if someone makes 0.50 cents of the $5 for example they use the principle at 2 Corinthians 8:14.
But they do have a set amount per publisher. In that sense yes Mr. Chaka is correct
@@QuëstionšnÅňşwęŕż This principle has never been reported to as being applied to my knowledge. The resolutions are always in favor if not always unanimous. No one wants to stand out as opposing the resolution and become singled out as a troublemaker. The point is that the branch always gets a per head amount for meeting and assembly publisher count even before individual donations are counted. So even if someone cannot afford the monthly publisher rate, they will be subsidized by others in the same congregation. It is particularly tough for families with multiple publishers. The branch doesn’t care who caries the burden as long as the per publisher rate is covered.
@@domaininsights oh ok. I am mentioning 2 Cor. 8:14 because that what I remember hearing during the resolutions. No worries I could be wrong, I'm on the bottom of the totem pole anyway so Its not like I have any documents to refer too. Just what I remember thats all.
Yeah your right everyone always agrees.
Maybe all those called apostates should come back and get counted and then not donate lol.
£££££££££ 😂
I did the accounting for years. The monthly accounting report is also actually fake.
It states how high the balance was at the end of the month, but in the JW.borg accounting software the fixed monthly amount for the following month has already been deducted. So the balance appears lower than it really is.
I saw this as an "encouragement 🙄😉" to encourage the JWs to donate more.
BTW, is there a difference between "encouraging" and "putting psychological pressure on"?!?
It's crazy, right? In JW lingo "encourage" = apply psychological pressure = use emotional manipulation
So it's deducted before being paid to Watchtower? It's not income and expenditure account? You could always put a notation on accounts that they include next months donation.
PS those internal accounts don't match any accounting conventions or rules normally adhered to.