It would be heartbreaking not to attend your wife’s funeral! What we have done when my father-in-law (ex elder but active JW) passed away, we were in charge of the funeral itself, we did it our way! We would not allow the witnesses to have their memorial talk in the funeral home. They did that afterwards in the kingdom hall and we did not attend that service for the same reason. The funeral itself was lovely, a lot of memories, photos and a gathering with true friends, no strings attached! Don’t let the witnesses take charge of something so valuable.
I would probably go to my beautiful wife Nicole,s jw funeral, just to wake up the jws how unloving they are. It was the jw funeral of a 78 yo pioneer sister that woke me up in 2015 when the elders pulled me aside and told me not to talk to her 40+ yo dissfellowshipped daughter, I ignored their unloving advice. I,d say at Nicole's funeral,, Nicole loved me regardless of what I believed in ,and never shunned me ,all you brothers and sisters can learn from her example ,,,I was a jw but I,m now a Militant Agnostic ,I don't know and neither do you ,, ,,So please stop acting as if you do ,have the answers to life's mysteries dear brothers and sisters,,❤❤❤
Just so you know. Every single person who leaves goes through "Dark Nights Of The Soul." Do what you can to reverse it. A stage of life at the end, is called "Integrity vs. Despair." To avoid despair, try to correct as much as you can while you are alive. Even if you can't, "Intent" is just as important as actually undoing irreversible damage.
Thanks for the advice ,I,m trying to avoid the despair ,but to keep my integrity I make these videos to help anyone who is in a cult and JWs aren't the only ones . These videos are also therapy for me and my commenters are 95% great and are a remedy for my despair .Thanks again for your advice ❤
Also, I always feel happy at a funeral. The fact that they’re out of this crap hole and in peace makes me feel happiness for them. Of course it’s always a little bitter sweet because they’re no longer here, but that’s what we have memories for. ❤
I am POMO. Stepdad died…a jw. The service was terrible because it didn’t focus on him, it almost dismissed his death and focussed the funeral on shoving scriptures down our throats. No coffin in the Kingdom Hall, he was cremated. But last year my dad died, he was never a jw. His funeral was beautiful, it was in the cemetery chapel but we covered the religious symbols. it was about dads life, I played the music that he loved and felt more closure from dads funeral. When mother dies, I’ll attend but not out of love but respect that she carried me for 9 months. What jw dint realise is we dint have to just have their funeral, we can attend their service then have a private PROPER funeral where you won’t be shunned. And with death, I was with my dad when he passed, it was peaceful and calm. It wasn’t traumatic for him. I dint know where he is, I just say he has gone home to his mum and dad….wherever that may be.
Thanks Lillywildflower for your comment, Your Dad's funeral sounded wonderful, covering the religious symbols great idea ,you must miss him terribly, but his in your heart full of precious memories. My Mum died in 1962 aged 30 when I was 1 yo. I often wonder if I would get on with her ,because you can't pick your family ,you can only pick your friends. Your step fathers Watchtower funeral, sounded dreadful, did they offer free home Bible studies at the end of the service ? Shameful,, I tell people,, I,m a Millitant Agnostic ,,I don,t know and neither do you !!!!! I hate when people make out they have all the answers ,but that use to be me ,when I was a jw . Thanks again Lillywildflower ❤
@@justinporter458 funerals should be about the person, celebrate them and showcase who they were. I wanted the cross covered because dad went to a Catholic school and was abused by the brothers there so there was no way I would compromise on that. Once I became Pomo I found my voice for speaking up about religion. Dad would have loved my sass simply because I remembered that detail of his service…. He wouldn’t have cared if I’d forgotten. He appreciated the tiny gestures so much more than mass e fanfare. Dad was a musician, loved family and history so we shared that. I miss him terribly. He was a gentle and kind man. I have a lot of peace knowing I held his hand until the end which is what he did for his mum. I promised him I would do the same. It was a privilege. I said to him that the moment he lets go of my hand, he will be holding his mums hand again. It helps to think of him being reunited with family instead of thinking of him leaving us. We do NOT go to funerals just to hear about the bible. We go to commemorate the life of someone. Stepdad died during Covid lockdowns so we were limited with numbers… but then, mum moved the service to a hotel so she could have 100 people instead of 10. She WANTED a crowd. I don’t understand that. There were only immediate family who aren’t jw…. Stepdads sons, sister and nephews, nieces…..so 10 people. The other 90 were jw (or Pomo for my husband and adult children). No bible studies offered but my brothers sang the jw songs because they thought they had to 😂. The elder didn’t even offer his condolences to them but it was their dad that died. It showed how arrogant and insensitive they can be. I was furious and accidentally called out that he should offer condolences to my brothers. I respect there are religious elements in some funerals but even my sister in laws grandmother had a nicer funeral…. She was Catholic. The service told stories about her, how she was born in Italy and during ww2 the Nazis came to take her sewing machine but she demanded paperwork. When they returned, they took her machine but didn’t realise she switched it with her old machine, so she hit to keep her new sewing machine. She brought it to Australia when she immigrated just after the war. We were laughing at the stories and it was nice to hear things we during already know. We all sang You’ll Never Walk Alone and the church sounded beautiful because it’s a song everyone knows. It was powerful. So create every funeral for the living but to commemorate the dead. Regardless of religion, there is SO much more to a person than their bible.
Lillywildflower so sad your Dad was molested by so called God fearing men ,one of the main reasons I don't believe in a All Loving God ,any loving parent would protect their children from Pedophiles, why doesn't God take away the priests evil desires towards children since Jesus died to take away the sins of the world . Either God is not all loving ,all powerful or simply doesn't exist. Also there are Homosexual and Pedophiles in the animal kingdom .eg. Bonobo Apes . Why did God create them ? ....I hope you are reunited with your Dad in the afterlife ,I just don't know and neither does anyone else ,all we have is precious memories and hope ❤❤❤
@@justinporter458 thank you. Que sera sera hey…. I have beautiful memories of dad and the future will be what it will be. If there is no reunification, it won’t matter because I will be dead anyway. But I will still be with him even if there is no conscious thought. I agree, I find it difficult to comprehend why any religion condones abuse - because if they condemn it, the would report it and remove the perpetrators. In dads case, his parents didn’t realise… his dad was an alcoholic after losing three brothers during ww1 and ww2 and himself being on a ship bombed in Western Australia. I think it was too much for him. Dad was born during ww2. I believe gender and sexuality is not one or the other, they are a spectrum which is why I was labelled a tomboy as a child…. I preferred to climb trees, wear jeans instead of skirts and play with trucks and cars but I am a heterosexual. I had a massive issue with the belief that homosexuality was wrong because when they are two consenting adults, what they do in their bedroom is their business….not mine.
@@justinporter458 I believe in trying to be good, kind people with no hidden agenda but that is the old “do unto others” people quote from the bible. I think there is a distinct divide between god and religion. Religion teaches hate…. If you aren’t one of us, you are the enemy, you will die, you are not good enough. But the bible says good is love. Those two things contradict each other. There is nowhere in the bible that says we need to be in a religion. The bible teaches us about being a good person, but more importantly, it teaches us how to have a relationship with god. The bible of the jw has been changed a few times. I remember the reference bible of the 1980s and told to throw our old bibles away….. why? Did they not want us comparing scriptures? Then a new version in 2013? THAT version had some BAD changes. I don’t understand….. if Adam gave us sin….. but Jesus is the redeemer…..and the price sin pays is death… then our death means we have paid for our sin so if the paradise us real, we should live forever. But why is Satan going to be locked away for 1000 years and re-released? The resurrected have paid for their sin, why would they need to be tested again? If they are alive again, they would know his is real…. No conversion necessary. Humans dream…. God could give them a dream during resurrection so they know what’s happening but they will be perfect. Perfect doesn’t make mistakes or have flaws. If you are perfect, even WITH free choice, you wouldn’t make bad choices 🍎🍏🐍…. so we’re Adam and Eve really perfect? Or are they just characters in a book?
My atoms will last forever and have always existed, but my consciousness will cease to exist ,and I am at peace with that. I could be wrong ,I do like surprises. ❤
I may die before she does .Nicole has a jw friend who,s dying of a brain tumour 2 weeks ago her 75 yr old husband unexpectedly dropped dead of a heart attack ,completely out of the blue . If Nicole dies 1st ,I may just take your advice ,thanks again for commenting. ❤
I choose but her JW congregation will give her a funeral service at the Kingdom hall and a wake get together where JWs bring food ,because I,m a apostate ex jw the Bible says ,,don't even say a greeting or eat a meal with such a one,, It,s in 1st Corinthians ch 5 . Paul the writer never even met Jesus but had a vision of Jesus years after his death ,where Jesus never shunned anyone but ate with tax collectors and sinners .
Luke 11:37,38 Jesus accepted a dinner invitation from a Pharisee. (who were Apostates) If associating with apostates which Jesus did all the time is a sin. Please show us the scripture.
@@idiotphd1046 yep and the actual definition of apostate is someone who has left a religion. It doesn’t make someone dangerous or evil. The jw have created some bigger interpretation. I hate the hypocrisy- they will be kind and show love to non jw if they think there’s a bible study in it…. But won’t show love to someone who leaves…. They ignore them… shun them…. Gossip etc
@@lillywildflower Some say……They created this “apostate” lie so members will disinherit the “apostate” and leave their estates to them. They estimate over 1 billion in assets.
@@justinporter458Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
I never excepted my mothers radical faith. Nonetheless, when my step-father passed I did go too his service. I was ABSOLUTELY DISCUSTED. 5 minutes was on his life and the other 55min was like a typical service. I zoned OUT, yet, all I could hear bibles flicking and ....... For goodness sakes, this was meant to be a celebration of his life NOT a weekly brainwashing service.
Hi Justin. Thank you for posting another video. Your stories are comforting. I especially love that you refer to your “beautiful wife Nicole.” I’d love to know how your life has improved since leaving the organization. Do you think it makes Nicole sad? Thank you in advance. The looking like a Greek made me laugh! 😅
This bit about funerals is concerning to me , my hubby of 52yrs is like your dear wife thinks he will see his parents again . He won't talk to me about funerals, they can put me in a black bin bag who cares 😊
Hi Justin! You know wer'e about the same age. I can see how you are torn between loyaties to family and religion. I always say blood is thicker than religion. We have come to many of the same conclusions about not knowing what lays beyond. Saying we don't know, is as honest as you can get. We may not like it, I mean, everyone wants a happy ending to the story, but at least there's no lies or wishful thinking. I had a freind who recently died. We grew up together as witnesses. I left the J dubs early in life and he followed many years later. He was however, as you say, a POMI ( phisically out but mentally still in.) He told me that he was going to go back and I warned him not to. I tried that once, and got soft shunned for an eternity. I think he was hoping for things to go back to the way they used to be. He commited suicide. You can see in the pictures leading up to his death, how unhappy he was. His mother requested me to go to his funeral. The one who always called me bad association. The one who told me to please stay away from him. I didn't go! I tried to make a comment on the online obituary and the witnesses kept taking down the comments they felt didn't suit them. I talked to other winesesses that I knew and non witnesses who attened and they basically told me his funeral was mostly an adverisment for the Watchtower! I can't beleive the amount of control they had. Such hypocrates saying nice things about him, after they treated him like shit. I've missed so many weddings and funerals cuz of this cult, I can't beleive they still have an effect on me this late in life.
Gday Tyrone, Your friend was in a sad situation, Believing in something and not practicing the cult rules fully ,I've heard many stories of ,pomi,s going back to the cult just to see their family again ,and dissociating or fading soon after Because they never treat you the same ever again ,once bad always bad ,that's their motto. My Father suicided in 1969 when I was 8 ,and my big sister suicided in 1994 when I was 33 and my sister was 36 , even though they weren't religious but Agnostic and Atheists, I feel Watchtower is truly evil because they produce suicidel thoughts in me ,especially the year after I was baptised, I never felt good enough and in nearly all ex jw videos I've watched, they say the same thing ,Watchtower breeds suicidel thoughts and that's why I fight the Watchtower and make videos ,thanks again Tyrone for commenting ❤
come back as a 25 year old and after 1000 years of wonderfull all hell breaks out on earth again. its a game that god plays. a game of chess with satan.
I agree with you George, Satan is Jehovahs attack dog ,,Go get them Satan ,I bet you can't make them disobey me ! ,,Your on God ,I bet I can ,if I do ,will you give me rulership for a 1000 years ? ,,Your on Satan ,this should be fun ,ha ha ha ,,
Well here we are again ,Sunday morning , mike at the KH doing his thing with his mates , to me they are not my brothers & sisters , l got 5 of my own and we are all still close , anyway hear l am watching Utube and loving every minute of it 😁🤭🤭🤭🤫🤫🤫🤣
She,s not dead yet and may well out live me and all her jw friends shun me . Nicole has a 70+ girl friend who,s dying of a brain tumor, her healthy husband 70+ has just dropped dead from a heart attack out of the blue . Sudden death is the most heart breaking occurrence in our life ,she has her faith in the resurrection and I hope it comes true ,I just don't know and nobody else knows either ❤.
with the shunning, it seems like when your 'product' is gullibility and wishful thinking your need to have some kind of company policy to alienate the people who see that it's all a scam... they see the emperor has no clothes on, if you sell imaginary clothes, you don't want the people who can't help but speak up about it to have a voice. on the subject of funerals, my mother was catholic, I'm an atheist, we agreed to disagree, she once told me I was going to go to hell, I was 6 or 7 years old and got scared like hell about that, but for the rest religion was never really an issue. She died 5 years ago, I called the priest to give her the last rites, and I went to talk to the priest for the funeral, I asked him to read from the bible the story of the Good Samaritan... it's funny, because it fit her well, but now I realise probably the Samaritan is in catholic hell now, because he was a happy honest decent human being and he didn't really know jesus ... If I were you, I'd go to that funeral, although women live longer, so I wouldn't worry about that. on the singing, can I do a fitting request: that song from Van Morrison... I'm a working man in my prime, cleaning windows...
Van Morrison is awsome, check out the 1936 song ,,Just Cleaning Windows,, by George Formby . I get shunned by the people who went to the funeral today everyday in the supermarket and street ,so I won't go to a funeral at a Kingdom hall .
@@justinporter458 I guess even if it's a loved one there's something to say about not attending a funeral organised by them... I think it's enough as a sign of respect to her if you'd grant her wish to be buried the way she wants... it's a tough one, I admit.
Adam and Eve is just a nasty story ,I,d rewrite it into a nicer story, eg. God loved the world so much that he forgave Adam and Eve but did smack their bottoms, no need to torture your dear son as a blood sacrifice, no need to create their great ,great ,great great grandchildren into born sinners ,no need for 6000 years of human suffering just very sore bottoms. It,s still OK to turn Satan into a legless lizard even though in Job ch 1 Satan told God he,d been walking about on the Earth not slithering. Jesus said to forgive your brother 77 times but God couldn't forgive Adam just once . Thank God it,s just a nasty story .
I was 10 in 1971 what a fantastic year for music ,Ram by Paul McCartney, Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin, 10 was so much fun ,I agree with you .JWs teach we,ll be in our 20,s our young adulthood for eternity, I,m looking forward to death hood where I get to sleep in for centuries ❤
There is an “evil slave” in charge. (Matt 24:48-51) He “beats the other slaves” and gets some to follow. (Luke 12:45-48) Upon seeIng this, Jesus orders us to leave and head for the mountains. (Matt 24:15) He says “let the reader use discernment” not listen to a “faithful slave.” Jehovah’s brilliant prophesy only gives us more reason to believe and trust in him.
Sorry about your wife, that sounds bad for you. The cult will focus on the GB if you did attend any funeral, it's NEVER about the person, always goes back to them. I understand why so many who leave stop believing in God, and with the born again mad ideas it's enough to put anyone off. Religion causes a lot of problems, but the Bible alone (and especially if you leave the JW's out of it) does have some interesting points that I have researched for decades and can't find answers in the secular world. Don't fall for the evolution con, you're smarter than that.
Evolution makes more sense than the Adam and Eve con . Gen ch 6 says ,,I do regret I made man ,because he is bad from his youth up,, The NOT so intelligent designer
@@justinporter458 I know a friend who's son is a total scumbag, she even says that she regrets giving birth to him, he's violent and doesn't have anything to do with her. It was his choice to turn against his mother, she brought him up well but he chose the wrong path. God did the same, created humans and they turned on him, their choice that was given to them, the ability to choose good or bad. And I am not arguing but evolution teaches we came from water dripping on a rock, then a primordeal soup that, with zero odds, brought about all the life we see today, our atmosphere, and the universe. If you believe that by accident this could happen then sorry, you are being stiffed.
Mother Nature is her name ,and she is not aware of our existence ,she,s awe inspiring and magnificent but she doesn't write books but we can discover her with the microscope and telescope.
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I’m sorry, Justin that you are going through these things!
The best thing about life is it doesn't go on forever ❤ Thanks @kdrazalotg❤
Sad life being a JW. Happily out... We encounter joy each day.
It would be heartbreaking not to attend your wife’s funeral! What we have done when my father-in-law (ex elder but active JW) passed away, we were in charge of the funeral itself, we did it our way! We would not allow the witnesses to have their memorial talk in the funeral home. They did that afterwards in the kingdom hall and we did not attend that service for the same reason. The funeral itself was lovely, a lot of memories, photos and a gathering with true friends, no strings attached! Don’t let the witnesses take charge of something so valuable.
I would probably go to my beautiful wife Nicole,s jw funeral, just to wake up the jws how unloving they are. It was the jw funeral of a 78 yo pioneer sister that woke me up in 2015 when the elders pulled me aside and told me not to talk to her 40+ yo dissfellowshipped daughter, I ignored their unloving advice. I,d say at Nicole's funeral,, Nicole loved me regardless of what I believed in ,and never shunned me ,all you brothers and sisters can learn from her example ,,,I was a jw but I,m now a Militant Agnostic ,I don't know and neither do you ,, ,,So please stop acting as if you do ,have the answers to life's mysteries dear brothers and sisters,,❤❤❤
Just so you know. Every single person who leaves goes through "Dark Nights Of The Soul." Do what you can to reverse it. A stage of life at the end, is called "Integrity vs. Despair." To avoid despair, try to correct as much as you can while you are alive. Even if you can't, "Intent" is just as important as actually undoing irreversible damage.
Thanks for the advice ,I,m trying to avoid the despair ,but to keep my integrity I make these videos to help anyone who is in a cult and JWs aren't the only ones . These videos are also therapy for me and my commenters are 95% great and are a remedy for my despair .Thanks again for your advice ❤
@@justinporter458 maybe you can find a hobby or go to cookingclub, or dance lessons. Those things help me
Also, I always feel happy at a funeral. The fact that they’re out of this crap hole and in peace makes me feel happiness for them. Of course it’s always a little bitter sweet because they’re no longer here, but that’s what we have memories for. ❤
The saddest thing about life ,is our loved one who gives us the best memories in life ,becomes just a memory ❤❤❤
@@justinporter458 I have to agree with you. ♥️
I am POMO. Stepdad died…a jw. The service was terrible because it didn’t focus on him, it almost dismissed his death and focussed the funeral on shoving scriptures down our throats. No coffin in the Kingdom Hall, he was cremated. But last year my dad died, he was never a jw. His funeral was beautiful, it was in the cemetery chapel but we covered the religious symbols. it was about dads life, I played the music that he loved and felt more closure from dads funeral.
When mother dies, I’ll attend but not out of love but respect that she carried me for 9 months. What jw dint realise is we dint have to just have their funeral, we can attend their service then have a private PROPER funeral where you won’t be shunned.
And with death, I was with my dad when he passed, it was peaceful and calm. It wasn’t traumatic for him. I dint know where he is, I just say he has gone home to his mum and dad….wherever that may be.
Thanks Lillywildflower for your comment, Your Dad's funeral sounded wonderful, covering the religious symbols great idea ,you must miss him terribly, but his in your heart full of precious memories. My Mum died in 1962 aged 30 when I was 1 yo. I often wonder if I would get on with her ,because you can't pick your family ,you can only pick your friends. Your step fathers Watchtower funeral, sounded dreadful, did they offer free home Bible studies at the end of the service ? Shameful,, I tell people,, I,m a Millitant Agnostic ,,I don,t know and neither do you !!!!! I hate when people make out they have all the answers ,but that use to be me ,when I was a jw . Thanks again Lillywildflower ❤
@@justinporter458 funerals should be about the person, celebrate them and showcase who they were. I wanted the cross covered because dad went to a Catholic school and was abused by the brothers there so there was no way I would compromise on that. Once I became Pomo I found my voice for speaking up about religion. Dad would have loved my sass simply because I remembered that detail of his service…. He wouldn’t have cared if I’d forgotten. He appreciated the tiny gestures so much more than mass e fanfare. Dad was a musician, loved family and history so we shared that. I miss him terribly. He was a gentle and kind man. I have a lot of peace knowing I held his hand until the end which is what he did for his mum. I promised him I would do the same. It was a privilege. I said to him that the moment he lets go of my hand, he will be holding his mums hand again. It helps to think of him being reunited with family instead of thinking of him leaving us.
We do NOT go to funerals just to hear about the bible. We go to commemorate the life of someone. Stepdad died during Covid lockdowns so we were limited with numbers… but then, mum moved the service to a hotel so she could have 100 people instead of 10. She WANTED a crowd. I don’t understand that. There were only immediate family who aren’t jw…. Stepdads sons, sister and nephews, nieces…..so 10 people. The other 90 were jw (or Pomo for my husband and adult children). No bible studies offered but my brothers sang the jw songs because they thought they had to 😂. The elder didn’t even offer his condolences to them but it was their dad that died. It showed how arrogant and insensitive they can be. I was furious and accidentally called out that he should offer condolences to my brothers.
I respect there are religious elements in some funerals but even my sister in laws grandmother had a nicer funeral…. She was Catholic. The service told stories about her, how she was born in Italy and during ww2 the Nazis came to take her sewing machine but she demanded paperwork. When they returned, they took her machine but didn’t realise she switched it with her old machine, so she hit to keep her new sewing machine. She brought it to Australia when she immigrated just after the war. We were laughing at the stories and it was nice to hear things we during already know. We all sang You’ll Never Walk Alone and the church sounded beautiful because it’s a song everyone knows. It was powerful.
So create every funeral for the living but to commemorate the dead. Regardless of religion, there is SO much more to a person than their bible.
Lillywildflower so sad your Dad was molested by so called God fearing men ,one of the main reasons I don't believe in a All Loving God ,any loving parent would protect their children from Pedophiles, why doesn't God take away the priests evil desires towards children since Jesus died to take away the sins of the world . Either God is not all loving ,all powerful or simply doesn't exist. Also there are Homosexual and Pedophiles in the animal kingdom .eg. Bonobo Apes . Why did God create them ? ....I hope you are reunited with your Dad in the afterlife ,I just don't know and neither does anyone else ,all we have is precious memories and hope ❤❤❤
@@justinporter458 thank you. Que sera sera hey…. I have beautiful memories of dad and the future will be what it will be. If there is no reunification, it won’t matter because I will be dead anyway. But I will still be with him even if there is no conscious thought.
I agree, I find it difficult to comprehend why any religion condones abuse - because if they condemn it, the would report it and remove the perpetrators. In dads case, his parents didn’t realise… his dad was an alcoholic after losing three brothers during ww1 and ww2 and himself being on a ship bombed in Western Australia. I think it was too much for him. Dad was born during ww2.
I believe gender and sexuality is not one or the other, they are a spectrum which is why I was labelled a tomboy as a child…. I preferred to climb trees, wear jeans instead of skirts and play with trucks and cars but I am a heterosexual. I had a massive issue with the belief that homosexuality was wrong because when they are two consenting adults, what they do in their bedroom is their business….not mine.
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I believe in trying to be good, kind people with no hidden agenda but that is the old “do unto others” people quote from the bible. I think there is a distinct divide between god and religion. Religion teaches hate…. If you aren’t one of us, you are the enemy, you will die, you are not good enough. But the bible says good is love. Those two things contradict each other.
There is nowhere in the bible that says we need to be in a religion. The bible teaches us about being a good person, but more importantly, it teaches us how to have a relationship with god.
The bible of the jw has been changed a few times. I remember the reference bible of the 1980s and told to throw our old bibles away….. why? Did they not want us comparing scriptures? Then a new version in 2013? THAT version had some BAD changes.
I don’t understand….. if Adam gave us sin….. but Jesus is the redeemer…..and the price sin pays is death… then our death means we have paid for our sin so if the paradise us real, we should live forever. But why is Satan going to be locked away for 1000 years and re-released? The resurrected have paid for their sin, why would they need to be tested again? If they are alive again, they would know his is real…. No conversion necessary. Humans dream…. God could give them a dream during resurrection so they know what’s happening but they will be perfect. Perfect doesn’t make mistakes or have flaws.
If you are perfect, even WITH free choice, you wouldn’t make bad choices 🍎🍏🐍…. so we’re Adam and Eve really perfect? Or are they just characters in a book?
You are made in gods image and likenesses. So you never die.
My atoms will last forever and have always existed, but my consciousness will cease to exist ,and I am at peace with that. I could be wrong ,I do like surprises. ❤
Hope all goes well for you sir here in California.
Thanks Tom ,I hope your OK in the wild fires ,stay safe .❤
If you're wife dies before you do, don't invite the Jehovah's witnesses your the one that has right to be with your wife , don't worry about them
I may die before she does .Nicole has a jw friend who,s dying of a brain tumour
2 weeks ago her 75 yr old husband unexpectedly dropped dead of a heart attack ,completely out of the blue . If Nicole dies 1st ,I may just take your advice ,thanks again for commenting. ❤
Good vid justin. As your wife's husband, dont you choose whether to have a funeral for your wife or not?
I choose but her JW congregation will give her a funeral service at the Kingdom hall and a wake get together where JWs bring food ,because I,m a apostate ex jw the Bible says ,,don't even say a greeting or eat a meal with such a one,, It,s in 1st Corinthians ch 5 . Paul the writer never even met Jesus but had a vision of Jesus years after his death ,where Jesus never shunned anyone but ate with tax collectors and sinners .
Luke 11:37,38 Jesus accepted a dinner invitation from a Pharisee. (who were Apostates) If associating with apostates which Jesus did all the time is a sin. Please show us the scripture.
@@idiotphd1046 yep and the actual definition of apostate is someone who has left a religion. It doesn’t make someone dangerous or evil. The jw have created some bigger interpretation. I hate the hypocrisy- they will be kind and show love to non jw if they think there’s a bible study in it…. But won’t show love to someone who leaves…. They ignore them… shun them…. Gossip etc
@@lillywildflower Some say……They created this “apostate” lie so members will disinherit the “apostate” and leave their estates to them. They estimate over 1 billion in assets.
I think I remember that song😁I was born in 1963, and that song feels like it’s from my past.
Yesterday ,When I was Young by Roy Clark 1969
@@justinporter458Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
I never excepted my mothers radical faith. Nonetheless, when my step-father passed I did go too his service.
I was ABSOLUTELY DISCUSTED.
5 minutes was on his life and the other 55min was like a typical service.
I zoned OUT, yet, all I could hear bibles flicking and .......
For goodness sakes, this was meant to be a celebration of his life NOT a weekly brainwashing service.
Yes Jehovah Witnesses use funerals to recruit new members and your right @joartym6649 it's disgusting.
Hi Justin. Thank you for posting another video. Your stories are comforting. I especially love that you refer to your “beautiful wife Nicole.” I’d love to know how your life has improved since leaving the organization. Do you think it makes Nicole sad? Thank you in advance.
The looking like a Greek made me laugh! 😅
I think Nicole is relieved to know she doesn't have to spend the rest of eternity with me .❤
@@justinporter458 😂 Understandable. Great sense of humor.
This bit about funerals is concerning to me , my hubby of 52yrs is like your dear wife thinks he will see his parents again . He won't talk to me about funerals, they can put me in a black bin bag who cares 😊
Hi Justin! You know wer'e about the same age. I can see how you are torn between loyaties to family and religion. I always say blood is thicker than religion. We have come to many of the same conclusions about not knowing what lays beyond. Saying we don't know, is as honest as you can get. We may not like it, I mean, everyone wants a happy ending to the story, but at least there's no lies or wishful thinking. I had a freind who recently died. We grew up together as witnesses. I left the J dubs early in life and he followed many years later. He was however, as you say, a POMI ( phisically out but mentally still in.) He told me that he was going to go back and I warned him not to. I tried that once, and got soft shunned for an eternity. I think he was hoping for things to go back to the way they used to be. He commited suicide. You can see in the pictures leading up to his death, how unhappy he was. His mother requested me to go to his funeral. The one who always called me bad association. The one who told me to please stay away from him. I didn't go! I tried to make a comment on the online obituary and the witnesses kept taking down the comments they felt didn't suit them. I talked to other winesesses that I knew and non witnesses who attened and they basically told me his funeral was mostly an adverisment for the Watchtower! I can't beleive the amount of control they had. Such hypocrates saying nice things about him, after they treated him like shit. I've missed so many weddings and funerals cuz of this cult, I can't beleive they still have an effect on me this late in life.
Gday Tyrone, Your friend was in a sad situation, Believing in something and not practicing the cult rules fully ,I've heard many stories of ,pomi,s going back to the cult just to see their family again ,and dissociating or fading soon after Because they never treat you the same ever again ,once bad always bad ,that's their motto. My Father suicided in 1969 when I was 8 ,and my big sister suicided in 1994 when I was 33 and my sister was 36 , even though they weren't religious but Agnostic and Atheists, I feel Watchtower is truly evil because they produce suicidel thoughts in me ,especially the year after I was baptised, I never felt good enough and in nearly all ex jw videos I've watched, they say the same thing ,Watchtower breeds suicidel thoughts and that's why I fight the Watchtower and make videos ,thanks again Tyrone for commenting ❤
come back as a 25 year old and after 1000 years of wonderfull all hell breaks out on earth again. its a game that god plays. a game of chess with satan.
I agree with you George, Satan is Jehovahs attack dog ,,Go get them Satan ,I bet you can't make them disobey me ! ,,Your on God ,I bet I can ,if I do ,will you give me rulership for a 1000 years ? ,,Your on Satan ,this should be fun ,ha ha ha ,,
I'm a year younger than you and I was thinking about the song Yesterday. And yes, it was Roy Clark. He was a great guitarist.
Roy Clarke 1933 to 2018
@@justinporter458 I was wondering. I figured he'd be passed away by now. Great singer and musision
one questions. Jehovah witnesses diies ? i thought they was promised to live to the end. what happened ? or everything just a lie
Like Jesus who promised he,s disciples they wouldn't taste death until they see him coming again .
Well here we are again ,Sunday morning , mike at the KH doing his thing with his mates , to me they are not my brothers & sisters , l got 5 of my own and we are all still close , anyway hear l am watching Utube and loving every minute of it 😁🤭🤭🤭🤫🤫🤫🤣
Sorry here 😊
Who needs 1000,s of plastic friends when you can have just 1 friend made of diamond my beautiful wife Nicole ❤
Justin, why don’t you organise a secular funeral for your wife and invite her friends? That would take the pressure away from you.
She,s not dead yet and may well out live me and all her jw friends shun me . Nicole has a 70+ girl friend who,s dying of a brain tumor, her healthy husband 70+ has just dropped dead from a heart attack out of the blue . Sudden death is the most heart breaking occurrence in our life ,she has her faith in the resurrection and I hope it comes true ,I just don't know and nobody else knows either ❤.
with the shunning, it seems like when your 'product' is gullibility and wishful thinking your need to have some kind of company policy to alienate the people who see that it's all a scam... they see the emperor has no clothes on, if you sell imaginary clothes, you don't want the people who can't help but speak up about it to have a voice.
on the subject of funerals, my mother was catholic, I'm an atheist, we agreed to disagree, she once told me I was going to go to hell, I was 6 or 7 years old and got scared like hell about that, but for the rest religion was never really an issue. She died 5 years ago, I called the priest to give her the last rites, and I went to talk to the priest for the funeral, I asked him to read from the bible the story of the Good Samaritan... it's funny, because it fit her well, but now I realise probably the Samaritan is in catholic hell now, because he was a happy honest decent human being and he didn't really know jesus ...
If I were you, I'd go to that funeral, although women live longer, so I wouldn't worry about that.
on the singing, can I do a fitting request: that song from Van Morrison... I'm a working man in my prime, cleaning windows...
Van Morrison is awsome, check out the 1936 song ,,Just Cleaning Windows,, by George Formby . I get shunned by the people who went to the funeral today everyday in the supermarket and street ,so I won't go to a funeral at a Kingdom hall .
@@justinporter458 I guess even if it's a loved one there's something to say about not attending a funeral organised by them... I think it's enough as a sign of respect to her if you'd grant her wish to be buried the way she wants... it's a tough one, I admit.
Cray cray.
Adam and Eve is just a nasty story ,I,d rewrite it into a nicer story, eg. God loved the world so much that he forgave Adam and Eve but did smack their bottoms, no need to torture your dear son as a blood sacrifice, no need to create their great ,great ,great great grandchildren into born sinners ,no need for 6000 years of human suffering just very sore bottoms. It,s still OK to turn Satan into a legless lizard even though in Job ch 1 Satan told God he,d been walking about on the Earth not slithering. Jesus said to forgive your brother 77 times but God couldn't forgive Adam just once . Thank God it,s just a nasty story .
I think I would like to be 10 years old if I got to pick. Of course not being a JW I am out of luck.
I was 10 in 1971 what a fantastic year for music ,Ram by Paul McCartney, Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin, 10 was so much fun ,I agree with you .JWs teach we,ll be in our 20,s our young adulthood for eternity, I,m looking forward to death hood where I get to sleep in for centuries ❤
There is an “evil slave” in charge. (Matt 24:48-51) He “beats the other slaves” and gets some to follow. (Luke 12:45-48) Upon seeIng this, Jesus orders us to leave and head for the mountains. (Matt 24:15) He says “let the reader use discernment” not listen to a “faithful slave.” Jehovah’s brilliant prophesy only gives us more reason to believe and trust in him.
Sorry about your wife, that sounds bad for you. The cult will focus on the GB if you did attend any funeral, it's NEVER about the person, always goes back to them. I understand why so many who leave stop believing in God, and with the born again mad ideas it's enough to put anyone off. Religion causes a lot of problems, but the Bible alone (and especially if you leave the JW's out of it) does have some interesting points that I have researched for decades and can't find answers in the secular world. Don't fall for the evolution con, you're smarter than that.
Evolution makes more sense than the Adam and Eve con . Gen ch 6 says ,,I do regret I made man ,because he is bad from his youth up,, The NOT so intelligent designer
@@justinporter458 I know a friend who's son is a total scumbag, she even says that she regrets giving birth to him, he's violent and doesn't have anything to do with her. It was his choice to turn against his mother, she brought him up well but he chose the wrong path. God did the same, created humans and they turned on him, their choice that was given to them, the ability to choose good or bad. And I am not arguing but evolution teaches we came from water dripping on a rock, then a primordeal soup that, with zero odds, brought about all the life we see today, our atmosphere, and the universe. If you believe that by accident this could happen then sorry, you are being stiffed.
god is not his title and jehovah is catholic church nor is jesus his name we are so mislead by men even those who do not claim the creator justin?
Mother Nature is her name ,and she is not aware of our existence ,she,s awe inspiring and magnificent but she doesn't write books but we can discover her with the microscope and telescope.
@@justinporter458 so who created Mother Nature Justin.
I don't know and neither do you ,maybe matter has always existed ??? ,unlike Yahweh who was created in the imaginations of ancient Goat Herders
@@justinporter458 yahweh is not the name by the way that is how much we have been lied to as no e in hebrew.