I wouldn’t say we’re in the chest rig era again. It’s more like people realized that both chest rigs and plate carriers have their place and it’s good to have both.
As newbie....what are the places? I mean the difference to me appears to be one offers protection and the other doesn't, but both are made to carry stuff. Am I over simplifying this.
@@reddirtwalker8041 the general rule of thumb is if you expect to be shot at or to be engaging someone else wear body armor. That’s a simple explanation but a good foundation.
@@actionsonobj Thank you for the reply, but I still don't understand. To me it only makes sense to go plate carrier full time because I honestly can't think of a situation where I would need 4+ magazines, admin pouch, possibly a radio pouch and what not and not be engaging someone. Yes there is training, but shouldn't you train in what you will be fighting in?
Honestly been loving the Pattern 84 Kommandostore put out, all that SADF goodness with some molle on the sides for anything I want and 6 mags on my chest. Comfy to boot.
@@1594simonsays It’s really great for all types of mags, if your just running it bare bones it’s stellar, just not the best for putting pouches on the side if your a small dude.
Got a onward research rig that I threw a helicon Tex Fanny pack on as a dangler med pouch and an old saw pouch as a gp pouch. Just need a spud pouch for water/ smoke and y’all’s GMP for the back. Keep it up guys, great content.
Yo!I got the OR recce too(in M81❤) and i am running a saw pouch too and a spiritus sack for med. I wanted to say thanks for the spud pouch recommendation cause i currently got a frag pouch and have been looking for something thatll do more and the spud would be perfect!Well off to order a spud(hopefully in stock😂)thanks man and personally i am in love w the OR rig,stay dangerous🤙Saw pouches work great for holding my 14 and a baclava and some comms earpiece leads(uv5r beo)😊
I’ve used and owned some different chest rigs. Just bought some Alice gear and and have been working with a belt and suspender setup and it’s still a contender.
You guys should try the Platatac Peacekeeper jungle rig. The peacekeeper has always been a super popular rig with guys outside of Australia but this split rig from them is 🔥
One thing a few of us do while conducting EP work is wear a covert ballistic vest under a button up, With a chest rig nearby or in a bag with a collapsible rifle or SBR, that way if the situation turns from covert to overt. we don't need to try to throw on a vest while still having armor.
My rigs so far: Haley micro with spiritus expander wings and OR SIMP. (Primarily a plate carrier rig. Did use in a 3 gun and it was awesome) OR recce rig with defense mechanisms mag and radio side kick, spiritus spud pouch for x2 mags giving me 11 mags on the rig. Then Amazon mystery meat dangler and small admin pouch (not made of money 😂) comfy esp with a ruck and lots of mags. Then finally I’m running the invert with all the trimmings for my backpack .300 blk pdw setup. Awesome rig for traveling and keeping a low profile. Thinking about adding a ghost rig to my collection 🤣
When I was doing squad-leader stuff in the Army, I ran a SAW pouch on my right side of my FLC as a GP pouch, the radio went to the right of that, and my marking kit was to the right of that. All my ammo and my IFAK was on my left side; I typically ran my FLC zipped in the front, but I did tinker with just running the buckles in the front but the two buckles that come standard with it weren't enough. At the time, I didn't have the access to people to make me a mod to add buckles in without permanent modifying my FLC...so I'd have to pay for it when I left the Army. In hindsight, I could've bought my own FLC to tinker with and use in the field.
Id suggest really looking into the defensemechanisms LCP chest rig. Its ridiculously modular and if you wanted to run a cummerbund on it its very possible.
Great vid guys, definitely brings up the more than valid point that you fight and die with what you carry-- no less than 8 (+1 in gun) Mags in standard loadout, with another 10 to 15 ready in your Pack/ Sustainment Gear, period. Minimalist/ Low-Pro Rigs have their place too, moreso as the name states for Low-Profile activities (such as Surveillance or Advance Planning, low key Executive Protection/ PSD's, etc.), but that is more specialized and exigent/ ancillary.
Yal should do a video on what goes into the pouches On yals Chest Rigs setups and also yals backpacks. I love listening to videos like this to figure out what gear I need.
im always suprised how people Prioritize chest rigg Features. Having a Split rig is a tiny bit easier to put on and off for the collectively 20 seconds you spend taking it on and off. for the rest maybe +8 hours of your use it makes no difference exept it takes prime real estate. If your usecase does not Include you having to put your rigg on and off in a stress situation maybe if youre on Standby and need to get ready fast then i dont see how that takes priority
@@Nick-hm9rhYou do have a very good point but having a fast rigg to put on in the trunk of your car if shit goes down isn't a bad thing rather then trying to put on something that takes more time to secure. If that's something you find important of course.
The SOE micro rig predates all of the micro rig by almost 20 years, it’s old, it’s not modular but a lot of lessons learned from this rig gave way to all the rigs that honestly haven’t been around for that long. And Rhodesian/ SA rigs predated all that stuff which were long sustainment rigs for long recce missions in the bush. All this gear is cyclical.
Have to say out of my several rigs I tend to gravitate towards my TT MK2 (standard 4 pouch) i can have armor up front but an open back for pack. Usually 6 mags plus helpful item in 4th mag pouch. the larger oblique pouches hold bottle water, snacks, batteries, and everything else that i might want to not dive into a pack for. med, pistol ammo, and single rifle mag on belt. The webbing is used sparingly since its already a double mag pouch thick and frankly i dont need extra crap lol
Unless you are trying to go covert, I think that your chest rig and belt should have the capability to hold just as much stuff as the old LBE and belt held. What I am trying to say is that I don't want to lose capability when switching to the new modern form of gear. In fact, I want it to be better. An example of that is young infantry soldiers carry a lot more medical supplies than we carried, and that is a good thing.
I really like the Eagle RRV if I’m going to use a “chest rig” as it gives me the option for some ballistic protection. But if y’all are looking for a cool chest rig keep an eye on Kinetic Relief Operations
I miss my tactical tailor with the y harness over my ranger plated body armor from oif 1-3. I always ran 14 mags and a few times came in the fob with 8-12 rounds, but clearing a house you felt like state puff.
Good talk to listen. Chest rig plus Simple plate carrier better suits light infantry tactics in my opinion. On the other site, integrated plate carrier is great for Direct, special operations and counterterrorism.
I'd love to Here you guys talk about other LBE systems aside from Chest rigs. Like the Velocity Jungle Kit or the JayJays Webbing. Kits better suited to environments like Florida, Louisiana, Texas, ect.
I got an LBT Rhodesian with four double mag DMR pouch and just two utility pouches on the sides then I took an OG 107 hydration bladder and wove it into the back and shoulder strap of the chest rig. It can load out 160 rounds of 308
This was my first time watching one of your videos and I love it and would love to come train with you guys. I live in north central florida,, close to Jacksonville. How far away are you guys Dwayne
Thank you I Just Subscribe To this channel I love it that's a very Informative and you show what you're talking about and give info in the proper info on the Subject. I get so tired of other channels where you have someone talking about a subject matter but that's all they do is talk talk talk talk talk and never show how it's applied or even the product they are talking about is just all about chatterbox. Thank you for the info very informative keep it going I love it and I'm sure most people do.👍
I use chest rigs because I play gelsoft and it doesn’t really hurt, and overall chest rigs are easier and more comfortable to wear in my opinion, but just use what you want we don’t need comment wars..
What’s the molle back piece on the rig. I see it in this video as well as in pics for the ghost rig on your site but don’t see it for sale or as a option. Love your vids!
@@barrelandhatchet Do you know if this X-H Harness will fit on the Onward Research Recce Rig, I've looked at the website you mentioned and can't find any specific info on that. Just curious if any of you, or people you know, have any first hand experience with the fitment of that particular set up. Thanks in advance.
Would like to see your all's full 3 lines of gear set ups. I have chest rigs but during my larping sessions, I find myself moving back to my plate carrier Plates are cumbersome but I find I carry far more, more comfortably on the carriers and in turn loading up my belt with 3 rifle mags, and 3 pistol mags, along with the 6&3 on my carrier, and been looking at how to secure more water to those items. Sustainability is always spoken of, and I've been to classes, where the instructor is preaching it, yet I look around and in the only guy with a water bottle on my rig. I also pack a water filtration system on my carrier and if I had to ditch it, that would go into my dump pouch immediately, where I have 3 bags of trail mix in the bottom. Ounces =Pounds. Pounds=Pain But when talking load outs, you really are talking survivability. And theses items are every bit as critical to your survival as ammo, coms, and land navigation equipment, and more so. IMO
That intro was absolutely 10/10. Wish I saw that level of production and focus from more RUclipsrs out there. The shenanigans from Administrative Results are hilarious, but I do prefer the serious vibe overall.
Spiritus didnt invent the "chest rig as placard" concept, Mayflower/Velocity Systems as well as the first gen of "Haley's" rigs (rebranded EGL) did that. All great products fwiw
I wouldn’t say we’re in the chest rig era again. It’s more like people realized that both chest rigs and plate carriers have their place and it’s good to have both.
exactly
Exactly, each has its place, and each should be had and trained in.
As newbie....what are the places? I mean the difference to me appears to be one offers protection and the other doesn't, but both are made to carry stuff. Am I over simplifying this.
@@reddirtwalker8041 the general rule of thumb is if you expect to be shot at or to be engaging someone else wear body armor. That’s a simple explanation but a good foundation.
@@actionsonobj Thank you for the reply, but I still don't understand. To me it only makes sense to go plate carrier full time because I honestly can't think of a situation where I would need 4+ magazines, admin pouch, possibly a radio pouch and what not and not be engaging someone.
Yes there is training, but shouldn't you train in what you will be fighting in?
I'm old, and my gear is too. Rock the LBE and the chest rig....
Spiritus System and Velocity chest rigs is what I have.
Chest Rigs are great for low threat contact while rucking around. Especially in the mountains.
oh yeah they are
That intro about put Garand Thumb to shame. Awesome
Makes me wonder what kind of context could garand thumb and barrel & hatchet come up with
If the intro doesnt, the content will. GT is a clown now
@@Nick-dz3ee still more serious and funny then demoranch
@@Nick-dz3ee who gives af lol. Guns are guns lol
@@MakeItUpAsIGo what a smooth brain reply
Big fan. Lighting looks much better this cast. Nice work with the intro!
thanks we are constantly working on it
Honestly been loving the Pattern 84 Kommandostore put out, all that SADF goodness with some molle on the sides for anything I want and 6 mags on my chest. Comfy to boot.
Not best for skinny or small sized people. Just a heads up.
@@lukewarmwater6713thanks
@@1594simonsays It’s really great for all types of mags, if your just running it bare bones it’s stellar, just not the best for putting pouches on the side if your a small dude.
I ran a Ferro Concepts chesty wide rig at Gunsite for a week long carbine courses….absolutely worth every penny. 5 Stars highly recommended.
Thank you for the solid production quality and great content!
Got a onward research rig that I threw a helicon Tex Fanny pack on as a dangler med pouch and an old saw pouch as a gp pouch. Just need a spud pouch for water/ smoke and y’all’s GMP for the back. Keep it up guys, great content.
Yo!I got the OR recce too(in M81❤) and i am running a saw pouch too and a spiritus sack for med. I wanted to say thanks for the spud pouch recommendation cause i currently got a frag pouch and have been looking for something thatll do more and the spud would be perfect!Well off to order a spud(hopefully in stock😂)thanks man and personally i am in love w the OR rig,stay dangerous🤙Saw pouches work great for holding my 14 and a baclava and some comms earpiece leads(uv5r beo)😊
that sounds like an awesome setup
Opening was really well done 😊
Running yals Ghost Chest Rig with the Thing 2. Absolutely love it!
Hell yeah man!!!!
I like the frizzled boonie hat. What I run is a belt setup with suspenders and a small chest rig for admin stuff and so.
the boonie cap is from Confections Carcajou
I’ve used and owned some different chest rigs. Just bought some Alice gear and and have been working with a belt and suspender setup and it’s still a contender.
VEry nice dude!
You guys should try the Platatac Peacekeeper jungle rig. The peacekeeper has always been a super popular rig with guys outside of Australia but this split rig from them is 🔥
Nothing like an ol 240 to regain the initiative. Great video fellas.
One thing a few of us do while conducting EP work is wear a covert ballistic vest under a button up, With a chest rig nearby or in a bag with a collapsible rifle or SBR, that way if the situation turns from covert to overt. we don't need to try to throw on a vest while still having armor.
My rigs so far:
Haley micro with spiritus expander wings and OR SIMP. (Primarily a plate carrier rig. Did use in a 3 gun and it was awesome)
OR recce rig with defense mechanisms mag and radio side kick, spiritus spud pouch for x2 mags giving me 11 mags on the rig. Then Amazon mystery meat dangler and small admin pouch (not made of money 😂) comfy esp with a ruck and lots of mags.
Then finally I’m running the invert with all the trimmings for my backpack .300 blk pdw setup. Awesome rig for traveling and keeping a low profile.
Thinking about adding a ghost rig to my collection 🤣
Great B-roll footage!!!!!
Great video, appreciate the shout out. Keep up the great work gentlemen.
You bet
Great to see phaseline getting some love, his artwork is insane, been following him for a while now.
dude he is awesome and his artwork is incredible
Can’t wait for the video on the ghost rig excited to learn more about it waiting for m81 to come back in stock
When I was doing squad-leader stuff in the Army, I ran a SAW pouch on my right side of my FLC as a GP pouch, the radio went to the right of that, and my marking kit was to the right of that. All my ammo and my IFAK was on my left side; I typically ran my FLC zipped in the front, but I did tinker with just running the buckles in the front but the two buckles that come standard with it weren't enough. At the time, I didn't have the access to people to make me a mod to add buckles in without permanent modifying my FLC...so I'd have to pay for it when I left the Army. In hindsight, I could've bought my own FLC to tinker with and use in the field.
I just ordered a chest rig from MOS Tactical. Skeletal with a First Spear Tube split front. Can't wait.
Just as I’m in the market for a new chest rig. Perfect timing fellas 🤌
Boom
That intro video was legit. Those tracers looked pretty real.
Great intro and great content! More, more, more!
roger we will be pushing out weekly Mondays at 1915 est
Id suggest really looking into the defensemechanisms LCP chest rig. Its ridiculously modular and if you wanted to run a cummerbund on it its very possible.
I feel you need at least 3 chest rigs, and im doing a start over, 8 mags+1 and a few pistol mags and ifak, still working out the other 2
Thing2+shaw arcv3 w/4x insert
Great vid guys, definitely brings up the more than valid point that you fight and die with what you carry-- no less than 8 (+1 in gun) Mags in standard loadout, with another 10 to 15 ready in your Pack/ Sustainment Gear, period.
Minimalist/ Low-Pro Rigs have their place too, moreso as the name states for Low-Profile activities (such as Surveillance or Advance Planning, low key Executive Protection/ PSD's, etc.), but that is more specialized and exigent/ ancillary.
Newb talking here 😂
I have been utilizing the Viktos micro rig at the "flat range" with great enjoyment. The magnetic buckles are awesome ❤️
Yal should do a video on what goes into the pouches On yals Chest Rigs setups and also yals backpacks. I love listening to videos like this to figure out what gear I need.
Honestly, I've been carrying everything that's necessary for fighting on my chest rig, and everything else in my pack
Nice that is a good way to equal out your sustainment
Split rig seems to make the most sense for me. I think it'll be the easiest to put on and take off with a slick carrier underneath.
im always suprised how people Prioritize chest rigg Features.
Having a Split rig is a tiny bit easier to put on and off for the collectively 20 seconds you spend taking it on and off. for the rest maybe +8 hours of your use it makes no difference exept it takes prime real estate.
If your usecase does not Include you having to put your rigg on and off in a stress situation maybe if youre on Standby and need to get ready fast then i dont see how that takes priority
@@Nick-hm9rhYou do have a very good point but having a fast rigg to put on in the trunk of your car if shit goes down isn't a bad thing rather then trying to put on something that takes more time to secure. If that's something you find important of course.
@@AllenCleek however, an over the top rig will always be easier in a vehicle.
XH harness revolutionary
Amen to that dude
Great immersive intro cinematic, love the effort..
I've been using an FLC2 for years. Not a bad starter setup.
Good stuff. I am getting a Full Tang Tactical for a K-0
Digging the Green Mountain Boy flag.
The SOE micro rig predates all of the micro rig by almost 20 years, it’s old, it’s not modular but a lot of lessons learned from this rig gave way to all the rigs that honestly haven’t been around for that long. And Rhodesian/ SA rigs predated all that stuff which were long sustainment rigs for long recce missions in the bush. All this gear is cyclical.
The answer is haley strategic , spiritus systems lbx
Chest rigs do have their place and uses. I find myself using a vest more often because I can put more pouches on it.
Have to say out of my several rigs I tend to gravitate towards my TT MK2 (standard 4 pouch) i can have armor up front but an open back for pack. Usually 6 mags plus helpful item in 4th mag pouch. the larger oblique pouches hold bottle water, snacks, batteries, and everything else that i might want to not dive into a pack for. med, pistol ammo, and single rifle mag on belt.
The webbing is used sparingly since its already a double mag pouch thick and frankly i dont need extra crap lol
Unless you are trying to go covert, I think that your chest rig and belt should have the capability to hold just as much stuff as the old LBE and belt held. What I am trying to say is that I don't want to lose capability when switching to the new modern form of gear. In fact, I want it to be better. An example of that is young infantry soldiers carry a lot more medical supplies than we carried, and that is a good thing.
I really like the Eagle RRV if I’m going to use a “chest rig” as it gives me the option for some ballistic protection.
But if y’all are looking for a cool chest rig keep an eye on Kinetic Relief Operations
we will look it up
I miss my tactical tailor with the y harness over my ranger plated body armor from oif 1-3. I always ran 14 mags and a few times came in the fob with 8-12 rounds, but clearing a house you felt like state puff.
Recently started to rework mine to add a Nalgene so I have water when I am separated from my pack
What GP pouches were on the heavy rigs? The ones with the Velcro front and bungie cords around.
Prototypes from lunar concepts
I bought the TAPS and have upgraded it. Whole thing has cost under 150 after all the upgrades.
I'm a fan of the Helikon rig, I replaced the shock cords with Kywi inserts.
Plate carrier and belt setup anytime?
Roger we will do a plate carrier video
@@barrelandhatchet tysm!
Sweet intro. Another banger vid as usual
Good talk to listen. Chest rig plus Simple plate carrier better suits light infantry tactics in my opinion. On the other site, integrated plate carrier is great for Direct, special operations and counterterrorism.
I'd love to Here you guys talk about other LBE systems aside from Chest rigs.
Like the Velocity Jungle Kit or the JayJays Webbing.
Kits better suited to environments like Florida, Louisiana, Texas, ect.
I got an LBT Rhodesian with four double mag DMR pouch and just two utility pouches on the sides then I took an OG 107 hydration bladder and wove it into the back and shoulder strap of the chest rig. It can load out 160 rounds of 308
As a fellow nerd I am so happy to see that the truck's name is a nerdy reference.
This was my first time watching one of your videos and I love it and would love to come train with you guys. I live in north central florida,, close to Jacksonville. How far away are you guys
Dwayne
Thank you I Just Subscribe To this channel I love it that's a very Informative and you show what you're talking about and give info in the proper info on the Subject. I get so tired of other channels where you have someone talking about a subject matter but that's all they do is talk talk talk talk talk and never show how it's applied or even the product they are talking about is just all about chatterbox. Thank you for the info very informative keep it going I love it and I'm sure most people do.👍
how about VIDEO on how to camoflauge your rifle (in the intro Broll sequence) ...Do it!
Ok fine we will do one.
I use chest rigs because I play gelsoft and it doesn’t really hurt, and overall chest rigs are easier and more comfortable to wear in my opinion, but just use what you want we don’t need comment wars..
What’s the molle back piece on the rig. I see it in this video as well as in pics for the ghost rig on your site but don’t see it for sale or as a option. Love your vids!
that is the X-H Harness and is available at wismencompany.com
@@barrelandhatchet Do you know if this X-H Harness will fit on the Onward Research Recce Rig, I've looked at the website you mentioned and can't find any specific info on that. Just curious if any of you, or people you know, have any first hand experience with the fitment of that particular set up. Thanks in advance.
What are those tall GP pouches you’re running on the sides?
How are y’all more Call of Duty than Call of Duty?!?! That intro was intensely rad! Great job, y’all!
Still holding out for the Mini Micro Chest Rig that converts into the Tier 1 Macro Recce Rig.
Damn, that spirit pilot got absolutely vibe checked. Should have flown for Delta.
Thoughts on tracer tactical chest rigs ??
Just got their compact rig it seems to be really well made
The SOE micro rig is my preferred choice
Who makes the split rig with the four mags and tubes in the middle? That looks awesome!
What are the zippered GP pouches you have on the rigs?
What's the pouch on the heavy chest rig that was holding the notepad behind the mags?
That is our GHOST MAP POUCH
barrelandhatchet.com/shop/
Good intro keep it up !
7:22 versatile is the word your looking for
Would like to see your all's full 3 lines of gear set ups.
I have chest rigs but during my larping sessions, I find myself moving back to my plate carrier
Plates are cumbersome but I find I carry far more, more comfortably on the carriers and in turn loading up my belt with 3 rifle mags, and 3 pistol mags, along with the 6&3 on my carrier, and been looking at how to secure more water to those items.
Sustainability is always spoken of, and I've been to classes, where the instructor is preaching it, yet I look around and in the only guy with a water bottle on my rig.
I also pack a water filtration system on my carrier and if I had to ditch it, that would go into my dump pouch immediately, where I have 3 bags of trail mix in the bottom.
Ounces =Pounds. Pounds=Pain
But when talking load outs, you really are talking survivability. And theses items are every bit as critical to your survival as ammo, coms, and land navigation equipment, and more so.
IMO
Rewatching the intro 😮
I like the tab and loop closure on your rig. Any chance of selling 2 and 3 mag molle pouches with the same setup? Belt kit gang ftw bae bae!
No, but if you check out the lunar concept expander wings, they work specifically with the GHOST. Wisemencompany.com
Well...
Damn, dude didnt even flinch when he got shot at 1:22. lol
1:12 "Rico! You know what to do!"
dude this intro 😲💘
I like that heavy chest rig setup what are the pouches on it on the sides of the mag pouches
Oh shit, I see we're upping the production quality
thanks so much for checking out the channel!
What’s the low profile 4 mag split rig with the tubes connecting the mag pouches in the center at 14:08?
a prototype from lunar concepts
@@barrelandhatchet Looks great. I like the Tubes connection. Put that bad boy into production so I can replace my spiritus bank robber rig!
biggest recommendation for training with your kit is airsoft by a decent $180 replica and play a skirmish or milsim
Wow! Best opening I have seen on almost any tactical video
Intro with them shots fired at micro rigs 😂🤣
I currently have an HSP Micro chest rig but I want to get something larger like the onward research chest rig.
verynice, we will have to try the OR rig
Just ordered the Recce rig. Should be here Thursday.. hoping the hype is real
@@michaelwilson6742 let me know how it is if you can. I’d like to hear what you think.
@@barrelandhatchet is there a chest rig you’d recommend for AK mags?
@@Braekker19 yes check out the rigs at PARASHOOTERGEAR
Thoughts on belt kit?
What is the grey split front rig in the video?
That intro was absolutely 10/10. Wish I saw that level of production and focus from more RUclipsrs out there. The shenanigans from Administrative Results are hilarious, but I do prefer the serious vibe overall.
we are trying to fill the gap
@@barrelandhatchet well it's definitely appreciated! Got yourselves a new sub BTW. I'm a total noob to the channel, but I like y'all already.
@@connorbaz5980 🥹🙇🏽♂️
Let’s goooo!
LFG!!!
What brand of harness is in the video with the wide back and laser cuts?
That is the h-x harness
Wisemen company
@@barrelandhatchet thanks!
When can we expect to see more ghost map pouches drop?
Spiritus didnt invent the "chest rig as placard" concept, Mayflower/Velocity Systems as well as the first gen of "Haley's" rigs (rebranded EGL) did that.
All great products fwiw
What kind or brand of pants are these at 8:30?
The word is modular for future reference
You’re intro was better then the last Steven Segal movie I saw 😅
Oscar the grouch is at it again
Intro
Sorry....but where can i find that large panel back peice(h harness..)..but not the h.....flat panel between the shoulder blades
Is Lunar still dialing in those GP pouches, or what? I'm dyin' ova 'ere
hahaha we hope he releases them
Need more AK rigs
go check out PARASHOOTERGEAR
What happened to the resonator 2 video?