I know it's probably sole legal contract thing, but it's still upsetting...especially the changes to the pronunciation of some names. luh-Coos? Really? *sigh*
yea ikr honestly id rather watch the old version or this in JP i just cant with this dub everyone sounds very off AHQ where just too good with there English dub on seed
@@asimhussain8716 Didn't know there is more then one dub for Seed. Looking for the one that played on YTV in like mid to late 2000s. Pretty sure was Ocean Dub.
@@gummibears27 they use different bgm timings, and certain songs like the ed are completely different. One of my favorite scenes, for example, are when Kira slaps kagali and the ed fades in, it is completely different in remastered because of new song.. and scene where Frey is about to shoot dearka I think they used a completely different track.
The new version of the first ending loses some of its emotional impact with the addition of more musical notes as it starts, completely takes away from the dramatic effect of the Strike Gundam rising at the end of the first episode that was present in the original version.
I think the single worst change other than voices was the change to how Nicol dies. It was far more impactful when Kira took him out with a swing of the sword than Nicol running into the blade.
You said it exactly right, I was watching Hikaru no go and Gundam 00 which features the same cast as the original dub. This new dub cast did nowhere near good enough, which is disappointing if you saw their excellent performance on Iron-Blooded Orphans.
@@randomgraham4302 yes, this is a remastered. so the older voice couldn't be used. they put zero budget on this dubb. i recommend watching the orginal one.
Not gonna lie, I prefer Matt Hill Kira, Sam Vincent, and the original cast. They're more iconic considering they've been in other Gundam media, including video games.
Well to be honest I do to but unless you had the for sight to by the orginal dvd release back in the day. This the best we got. Even the news people sound worng
@@TheNerdyGuy84 uh do you mean the the old eng dub? Cause yo ho ho dude you can find that easy on the web. Because it’s not hard to fine (Edit: sorry youtube is being trash as always…)
I still like the original English dubbed by The Ocean Group way back than the all new English redubbed by NYAV Post. And this series has been reduced from 50 episodes to 48 episodes.
This is the Gundam Seed HD Re:Master that I've been waiting for!!! Been waiting a while for this to come out. This is still one of my favorite Gundam Series!
This redub was a disgrace to the series, I say this not simply as a fan of the original dub, but someone who has listened to the original dub over a hundred times to appreciate every single word spoken to know this redub was insulting. Not wanting to pay the ocean group or getting the original cast back was no excuse, nor not wanting to splice in the original audio as I have found a few sites where someone reuploaded the series with the HD version and took the time to splice in the original dub and I found it to fit about 90% perfectly. Only certain instances were obviously not able to be adjusted properly like the ending of Phase 26: Kira when the ending theme plays over the Kira athrun montages as that uses more footage but if someone could have spliced the original dub with about 90% perfect sync on a home setup no doubt, there is no reason the company that did this redub couldn't have paid a team with more technical resources to bump it up to a full 100% with the money they would have saved from hiring the new cast. I would post a link to these these episodes if I could but as some of you have noticed they are trying to justify this piece of garbage redub by replacing every single version of the original dub with this new one over every single anime streaming site, so there is nothing to compare it to, putting the illusion that this is the only dub in existence. Speaking of the new cast, I am at a loss for words as I can't believe after they did such good work on other series like Iron-Blooded Orphans they gave a crappy performance in this. For anyone who ever said Matt Hill made Kira too much of a crybaby, Max Mittelman made him sound a million times worse. He spoke pretty much all his battle dialouge while constantly whining. Both Athrun and Cagalli's new voices sound like their having an identity crisis. A good example is to take a good listen to the conversation between them in the original dub Phase 31 after Cagalli confronts him over killing Kira then that same conversation in the new dub, there is none of the emotion delivery that Samuel Vincent and Vanessa Moreley gave the characters present. Shame because I really like Cherami Leigh voice,, but when she says stuff like "whoa, slow down there hot rod" to Kira, I just wanted to hit my head against a wall. Cagalli is pretty much the most anime voice acting Vanessa Moreley has done so I can see getting her back would have been an impossibility, but she is still the far superior voice for Cagalli. Stephanie Step was the one VA I thought could actually properly replace her predecessor Chantal Strand, as they both do gentle voice characters. But she sounded like she was mixing her Mineva voice with her Hinata/Orihime voice too much. Oh look, Murrue is voiced by Carrie Keranen, she did such a great job as Karta in IBO. No wait, she's just as bad. She is also the narrator voice, but why did she feel the need to do every preview in a emotionless robot voice. The original narrator went the extra mile to give suspence tomake everyone look forwardtothenext episode. Alexa, Siri, I take back anything bad I ever said about you, there is a worse robot voice out there. WHY? WHY? Why for the love of all things Gundam couldn't they keep Tabitha St. Germain's and Jillian Michaels existing lines as Haro and Lacus Clynes singing voice. Instead now we get a Haro who won't shut up about birthday cake and ice cream instead of his original comical dialouge. Lacus was originally perceived to be a naive airhead when she was first introduced, well this new singing voice definitely makes her seem like an airhead now, and completely takes away the seriousness that Jillian Michaels gave her song. Johnny Yong Vosh, while a great VA, just was not right for Dearka, was he trying to give him an accent for sometime? On top of that why was he, along with Yuri Lowenthal and Michelle Ruff, downgraded to essentially cameo roles. These are legendary voice actors and they didn't bother to utilize them properly. Yuri played Miguel and Michelle was Aisha, characters who had very little lines and died quickly. Add in that Johnny had very little lines as Dearka, this was an insult to these voice actors skill and time, as well as the fans who admire them. The better casting would have been to have Yuri voice Kira, Johnny as Athrun, and Michelle as Cagalli. The original voice actors Matt Hill and Samuel Vincent made Kira and athrun work in the original dub because they were friends in real life. Johnny and Yuri already have much experience working together and they already have the "best friends trying to kill each other in the middle of a war" chemistry from their time as Suzaku and Lelouch on code geass and Michelle using something like her serious rukia voice would have made a much better Cagalli. If your already paying for these VA's you should use them properly right? Overall I'm not saying you shouldn't like this new dub if this is your first time seeing Gundam seed, but for those of us that have had the original dub to admire for almost two decades, this was an insult to us original fans and the talents of the original dub cast. I can only hope once the movie comes out next year that they will not be cheap and pay for the ocean group to dub it, regardless if the full cast can't make it in. We can live with if the HD version will always be this terrible new dub as long as we remember the quality of the original, but the movie will probably already be at a low standard if it follows the same formula of SEED Destiny, it shouldn't be ruined more by another terrible phone-it-in dub.
I remember I watched Seed Destiny first, and throughout the series I saw that they mentioned a lot about the past, so it made me wonder if there was like something that came before, and then I found this, and even now it's still an amazing anime
Rau le Causet what have they done to him the og voice actor captured both sides of his character so well this cool calm leader and the other side of him that was this insane mad man who wanted to see the world burn
This is Max Mittelman's second time as the star leading male voice actor to play the main protagonist for the English dubbed version of the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise series. The first protagonist he has voiced was Io Fleming from Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt.
So I finally found it... I've wanted to get a chance to hear this variation of the dub for quite a while but I could never find it anywhere. This was the first Gundam Series I ever watched from start to finish. That being said, I can't bring myself to like this dub. There are multiple reasons for this but I am going to try take nostalgia out of the two primary reasons. The first reason is the prior experience that the main cast had with other Gundam Series. Mittleman and Cherami were both on Thunderbolt and IBO respectively and they performed flawlessly. This doesn't feel like they are giving their all, rather like they filmed this on a tough day for them where the coffee guy didn't show. When compared to Matt Hill and Vanessa Morley's dub performances they do indeed fall short. And Mu's voice is an abomination, enough said. The second reason is something that has bothered me about Funimation dubs for a while now - the ad libbed lines. I can take the ok voice acting and the cast changes but for the love of god stop putting in lines that aren't there! This is why dub shows like Dragon Maid failed. I'm not interested in hearing your personal take on the characters. Just do your damn job and keep the dialogue provided. Don't know if Marchi was involved in this but she should have been locked in the closet for this one. I'm not a sub elitist but I would rather they just not continue with a dub for GSD. Shinn and Stella are two of my favorite characters from that one and I'd rather remember them as they were. Besides, Kirby Morrow is gone now and nobody can replace him.
What adlibs?? They did in this show. I can understand jn comedies because jokes kn one language might just not work when translated. But this? Also This isn’t a funimation dub. It’s Nyah post. Funi just published it
I honestly just don’t like a lot of the funination voice actors in general, some are okay but I’ve seen other dubbed anime where they do add extra lines in.. like why ?
I just started playing SRW J. 2 Gundam series are present in that Game, SEED and G. The Previous Shuffle Alliance feel guilt for their failure to avert the Bloody Valentine Massacre, The Blue Cosmos are the ones who tried to usurp the Ultimate (Devil) gundam, Master Asia attacks the Archangel with his bare hands and freaks out the crew, The SEED cast is aghast that the gundam fight is even a thing. I just like how those parts of the story intertwine
Also, for those unaware, Bandai, Gundam Seed’s original licensor had the first dub commissioned in Vancouver, rather than in LA. The company went bankrupt in 2012, and since it’s extremely expensive to get Ocean to do it again, they chose to do a in-house dub. The reason they didn’t just overlap audios was because there was new content not present in the original version. I believe Sunrise had a hand in the casting as well. Plus, a couple of the OG actors aren’t doing much acting anymore. Also, Dearka went from being voiced by Light Yagami to Lelouch Lamperouge. How awesome is that?! Edit: Okay, we can all have our opinions, but could we stop being dicks about it?
I get it, but the nostalgia is constantly yelling at me. That this sucks, especially for the main characters. Like some of the cast could have came back. And as for Natarle Badgiruel voice actor sadly doesn't sound military enough.
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed It was my first animation I was born in 2000 When I was a little kid that was my first TV show Now my 21 is my favorite show I love Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
This show is SO good. Complex characters. Sci Fi world building of exceptional caliber. Varied and exciting settings, themes and plot. Criminally under rated anime!!
@@Raydnt69 I know, I'm saying the people that ordered a redub didn't bother to do it themselves. The spliced version that is out there though is only about 90% perfectly synced so why didn't they instead of redubbing it use their resources to make a perfectly synced version themselves.
The only actor I know in this dub is Ray Chase as Le Creuset's lieutenant. He was Gendo in THAT dub of Eva and he'll be in the new episodes of X-Men TAS. Yeah, that's right. They're bringing back X-Men TAS.
Weird seeing legal Gundam episodes being uploaded by someone other than GundamInfo. I actually really like the designs of the various ZAFT grunt MS, which makes it all the more disappointing how they get junked for recycled OYW designs in Destiny. As for the dub, while newbies may find it perfectly fine, as someone who has seen the Ocean dub dozens and dozens of times, hearing the new voices is just so, so OFF. Like, hearing somebody other than Matt Hill and Sam Vincent as Kira and Athrun, much less someone other than Lisa Ann Beley and Trevor DuVall as Murrue and Mu makes me cringe so, so hard. Don't even get me started on replacing Mark Oliver as Rau, possibly the most pitch-perfect voice in the entire series. EDIT: Also, LOL that they STILL couldn't get text-replacements on the intro and ending, leaving the massive wall of text like on the Ocean dub. Sheesh.
they are probably working off the original like Bandai had. It wasn't until quite a while after that it was made into HD and only released in the JP market.
Someone mentioned the blu-ray to have both dubs. If such, then this is based on the original and you can't overlap the ENG Dub into the remastered version. There are time differences, so this will both be based on the original. (i prefer the remastered opening)
You are clearly someone who can identity good voice acting, you have my respect good sir. At the very least they should have had Kira and Athrun voiced Yuri Lowenthal and Johnny Yong Vosh, respectively.
It's a good thing I made a backup of the entire original dub. The original dub can almost be considered lost media now, you cannot find the original dub online anymore
Are you serious they really scrubbed it the same way they scrubbed the original patlabor movie manga dubs or even the 20th Century Fox dub of my neighbor Totoro which is completely different from what Disney did and also can only be found on old VHS tapes it’s nowhere to be found on digital media they’ve done the same thing to this series thank God I have the entire series on DVD way before this remastered came out
As a pure Gundam seed and Seed destiny fan. The dubbing is truly disappointing everyone sounds really off, I get the whole reason for a recast due to the original ocean dub studio going bankrupt but this new dubbing isn't it. Aside from a few voices I'm hearing with the new cast which actually isn't bad at all kinda cool actually. Kira's and Athrun's new VAs is throwing me off considerably to the point I feel like my ears are bleeding. I'm scared to hear lacus.... But I'll watch on for now it's been years since I watched this it's my favorite anime if all time.
😭 WHY??? This is one of the few anime I come back to watch every few years and I was excited to find out it been remastered. But the new voices quickly crushed that excitement. It’s kinda stupid to remaster an anime with new voice actors that already had good dubbing to begin with🤦♀️ Like why bother if you’re going to do a disservice like that to the fans. PS: If you have the OG dubbed show please share 🙏 I’ve been looking online for it but can’t find any of the episodes.
That would be awesome. I'd love to see all the variations of mobile suits in astray. That one little video was awesome but they never did anything else with it
It is rather unusual to redub. I speculate it is because of the actors ages and new SEED series coming out. When the new SEED movie was reannounced, that was enough confirmation for me.
Before the posting of the cast, I was hoping that Kira was voiced by Johnny Yong Bosch while Athrun was Yuri Lowenthal sort of like a reverse Lelouch and Suzaku, Kira would sound more like Renton while Athrun would sound a little bit like Sasuke.
I love the Ocean dub. I’m watching this for the first time right now. I’m really hoping Crunchyroll eventually uploads both dubs, until then, I guess I can rely on the physical media I have for Ocean’s dub when what we have on RUclips runs out.
I'm still compiling my full thoughts, I don't think my issues are completely with the new VA's. But why change already established dialog? For example when Cagali is first introduced I thought it was brilliant to refer to them as "they" as androgynous as she appears at first. Second, when Kira yells that he's heading for the other shelter Murrue replies, "There's nothing LEFT of that block!" Which imo provided so much more emotion and a much more solid reason for Kira to follow with her instead of..it's not as safe..why? Because some random EF soldier told you? Hell no, they're actively shooting at YOU lady, I'll take my chances. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, though if this is a trend in the new dub I think a lot of soul will be missing.
@@gilgamesh-cigar4106 I guess a lot of things. MC dynamic similar to Lelouch & Suzaku, female characters similar to Kallem & Euphemia, Sunrise trying to mainstream popularize thier mechs by incorporating elements of other genres. I mean I think that's a good start.
@@wuverrabbit Yeah, but Sunrise made Code Geass as well. Also I remember reading that the creator of Code Geass was heavily inspired by Gundam. Between the heroic looking white robot vs the monstrous red one, the masked man seeking revenge against an authoritarian government, etcetera.
Just finished the remasted dub, it was good, took some getting used to, Johnny young Boash was the best part about it, he nails any role they give him, best dubed voice
Here's an idea. Quit redoing are childhoods and ruining good shows! Stop redubing animes! What made these memories special were the times they came from.
Pretty sure Funimation is only posting because they helped with the remastered dub. (Don't quote me on that) Sumrise (the actual studio) had it up on their gundaminfo page but subbed for a bit.
Gundam wing was the first anime I watched with robots when I was younger. seed is one of my top favourites I was so excited when I seen the series and I was excited for my wife to watch it but as soon as I got 10 minutes into the first episode I had to turn it off it wasn’t the original voice actors and I just couldn’t do it. It put a sour taste in my mouth and I can’t watch it. I still have the original series on a external drive But if you haven’t seen the originals you’re gonna love this one no doubt with the voice actors they have!!!
Wow this is different. Makes me think about when Pokemon changed the whole Cast for Season 9 and threw many of us long time fans off for good. I've gotten used to the new Dub over time. So I'll give this new Seed Dub a chance too.
Is that Johnny Yong Bosch I hear or am I going crazy? I guess there's new voice actors. Weird hearing new voice actors. JYB is always a welcome sight to see though.
I remember when they showed a preview of this on Twitter, and the person running the Twitter got into a spat with me on how to pronounce the Taiwanese city of Kaohsiung. In the dub, they clearly say it with a K said like Kowshung. The correction pronunciation is gau-shaang. Someone who happened to be Taiwanese agreed that it was wrong. Ironically, the original dub got it right the first time. This one never fixed it. Considering how bad this dub is, I'm not surprised.
Watching Gundam series and other military animes for years makes you realise why children dont belong on the field of battle. The only one would be Tanya but then again she is a old soul.
Voices all wrong. Lines messed up. End song and insert portion ruined. And Mobile 'Suite' Gundam? They butchered this redub. Friendly piece of advice, Funimation? If it isn't broken, DON'T FIX IT.
No, she made her too whiny. I love Cherami Leigh, but she ruined Cagalli with lines like "whoa slow down there hot rod". Cagalli was pretty much all the anime voice acting Vanessa Moreley ever did, but she put a lot more effort into giving Cagalli a voice.
Original audio was perfect all we needed from the remaster was the visuals!
I know it's probably sole legal contract thing, but it's still upsetting...especially the changes to the pronunciation of some names. luh-Coos? Really? *sigh*
yea ikr honestly id rather watch the old version or this in JP i just cant with this dub everyone sounds very off AHQ where just too good with there English dub on seed
@@asimhussain8716 Didn't know there is more then one dub for Seed. Looking for the one that played on YTV in like mid to late 2000s. Pretty sure was Ocean Dub.
@@gloriusk7105F because unless you got the box sets or want to loose 9 hours of story by watching the specials then your out of luck. Trust me
100% agree. i really miss the old dub.
I feel bad for ppl who didn't get to watch this series before the remaster.. the show had really good use of music and they changed a lot of it...
The music is the same though? It’s just different voices and different parts of the songs played for the endings I think.
@@gummibears27 they use different bgm timings, and certain songs like the ed are completely different. One of my favorite scenes, for example, are when Kira slaps kagali and the ed fades in, it is completely different in remastered because of new song.. and scene where Frey is about to shoot dearka I think they used a completely different track.
The new version of the first ending loses some of its emotional impact with the addition of more musical notes as it starts, completely takes away from the dramatic effect of the Strike Gundam rising at the end of the first episode that was present in the original version.
I think the single worst change other than voices was the change to how Nicol dies. It was far more impactful when Kira took him out with a swing of the sword than Nicol running into the blade.
the new dub ruined the anime
My first Gundam show, it will always hold a special place to me. That opening is pure nostalgia
Mine was Gundam Wing.
Same, first non-shounen anime as well for me. Animax had just aired in my Country.
@@Lone_Wolf91 same here, but my favourite will always be Seed!
I watched the original gundam on cable tv. I still remember they showed that nude scene uncut. Sayla boobs. 80s and 90s tv was the best.
Mine was wing, but after few years later seed would be my come back to gundan
I prefer the original dub than this The voice actors from the original put a lot of their effort into that.
You said it exactly right, I was watching Hikaru no go and Gundam 00 which features the same cast as the original dub. This new dub cast did nowhere near good enough, which is disappointing if you saw their excellent performance on Iron-Blooded Orphans.
So wait a second there are two dubbed versions ? Is this like a “remastered” version ?
@@randomgraham4302 yes, this is a remastered. so the older voice couldn't be used. they put zero budget on this dubb. i recommend watching the orginal one.
@@antiwufei553 theirbdub of escaflowne was alright, the more recent dub of that takes getting used to by comparison.
Same
Not gonna lie, I prefer Matt Hill Kira, Sam Vincent, and the original cast. They're more iconic considering they've been in other Gundam media, including video games.
Theres also some lines that come off sounding better in the old dub
Where can I find the ocean dubbed
The og dub? Anywhere
Well to be honest I do to but unless you had the for sight to by the orginal dvd release back in the day. This the best we got. Even the news people sound worng
@@TheNerdyGuy84 uh do you mean the the old eng dub? Cause yo ho ho dude you can find that easy on the web. Because it’s not hard to fine
(Edit: sorry youtube is being trash as always…)
Seed/Seed Destiny hands down best gundam designs.
I agree you may or may not like seed or especially destiny but I cant deniy the mobile suit designs are incredible.
Destiny was garbage. Seed was good but too many sexual depictions
I still like the original English dubbed by The Ocean Group way back than the all new English redubbed by NYAV Post.
And this series has been reduced from 50 episodes to 48 episodes.
Those are just clip shows that they removed. The back story footage concerning George Glenn, however, was kept and moved to The Respective Solitudes.
They cut out the recap episodes
@@BradLad56 that is true.
@@alexanderdrake7984 yeah.
They did.
And I was not so amused about that too.
@@alexanderdrake7984 Basically, nothing of value was lost.
This is the Gundam Seed HD Re:Master that I've been waiting for!!! Been waiting a while for this to come out. This is still one of my favorite Gundam Series!
This remaster has issues aka changing all the voices
This redub was a disgrace to the series, I say this not simply as a fan of the original dub, but someone who has listened to the original dub over a hundred times to appreciate every single word spoken to know this redub was insulting.
Not wanting to pay the ocean group or getting the original cast back was no excuse, nor not wanting to splice in the original audio as I have found a few sites where someone reuploaded the series with the HD version and took the time to splice in the original dub and I found it to fit about 90% perfectly. Only certain instances were obviously not able to be adjusted properly like the ending of Phase 26: Kira when the ending theme plays over the Kira athrun montages as that uses more footage but if someone could have spliced the original dub with about 90% perfect sync on a home setup no doubt, there is no reason the company that did this redub couldn't have paid a team with more technical resources to bump it up to a full 100% with the money they would have saved from hiring the new cast. I would post a link to these these episodes if I could but as some of you have noticed they are trying to justify this piece of garbage redub by replacing every single version of the original dub with this new one over every single anime streaming site, so there is nothing to compare it to, putting the illusion that this is the only dub in existence.
Speaking of the new cast, I am at a loss for words as I can't believe after they did such good work on other series like Iron-Blooded Orphans they gave a crappy performance in this.
For anyone who ever said Matt Hill made Kira too much of a crybaby, Max Mittelman made him sound a million times worse. He spoke pretty much all his battle dialouge while constantly whining.
Both Athrun and Cagalli's new voices sound like their having an identity crisis. A good example is to take a good listen to the conversation between them in the original dub Phase 31 after Cagalli confronts him over killing Kira then that same conversation in the new dub, there is none of the emotion delivery that Samuel Vincent and Vanessa Moreley gave the characters present. Shame because I really like Cherami Leigh voice,, but when she says stuff like "whoa, slow down there hot rod" to Kira, I just wanted to hit my head against a wall. Cagalli is pretty much the most anime voice acting Vanessa Moreley has done so I can see getting her back would have been an impossibility, but she is still the far superior voice for Cagalli.
Stephanie Step was the one VA I thought could actually properly replace her predecessor Chantal Strand, as they both do gentle voice characters. But she sounded like she was mixing her Mineva voice with her Hinata/Orihime voice too much.
Oh look, Murrue is voiced by Carrie Keranen, she did such a great job as Karta in IBO. No wait, she's just as bad. She is also the narrator voice, but why did she feel the need to do every preview in a emotionless robot voice. The original narrator went the extra mile to give suspence tomake everyone look forwardtothenext episode.
Alexa, Siri, I take back anything bad I ever said about you, there is a worse robot voice out there.
WHY? WHY? Why for the love of all things Gundam couldn't they keep Tabitha St. Germain's and Jillian Michaels existing lines as Haro and Lacus Clynes singing voice. Instead now we get a Haro who won't shut up about birthday cake and ice cream instead of his original comical dialouge. Lacus was originally perceived to be a naive airhead when she was first introduced, well this new singing voice definitely makes her seem like an airhead now, and completely takes away the seriousness that Jillian Michaels gave her song.
Johnny Yong Vosh, while a great VA, just was not right for Dearka, was he trying to give him an accent for sometime?
On top of that why was he, along with Yuri Lowenthal and Michelle Ruff, downgraded to essentially cameo roles. These are legendary voice actors and they didn't bother to utilize them properly. Yuri played Miguel and Michelle was Aisha, characters who had very little lines and died quickly. Add in that Johnny had very little lines as Dearka, this was an insult to these voice actors skill and time, as well as the fans who admire them.
The better casting would have been to have Yuri voice Kira, Johnny as Athrun, and Michelle as Cagalli. The original voice actors Matt Hill and Samuel Vincent made Kira and athrun work in the original dub because they were friends in real life. Johnny and Yuri already have much experience working together and they already have the "best friends trying to kill each other in the middle of a war" chemistry from their time as Suzaku and Lelouch on code geass and Michelle using something like her serious rukia voice would have made a much better Cagalli. If your already paying for these VA's you should use them properly right?
Overall I'm not saying you shouldn't like this new dub if this is your first time seeing Gundam seed, but for those of us that have had the original dub to admire for almost two decades, this was an insult to us original fans and the talents of the original dub cast.
I can only hope once the movie comes out next year that they will not be cheap and pay for the ocean group to dub it, regardless if the full cast can't make it in. We can live with if the HD version will always be this terrible new dub as long as we remember the quality of the original, but the movie will probably already be at a low standard if it follows the same formula of SEED Destiny, it shouldn't be ruined more by another terrible phone-it-in dub.
What do you mean disgrace, seed was already a terrible series anyway so what does it really matter
Jesus christ, calm tf down.
@@RedComet-xu7iv Seed isn't terrible, nowhere close. It's easily one of the best AU Gundam entries
What a emotional thesis haha!! Just a simple "I don't like this dub" is good enough man
You forgot that this crappy redub has Daman Mills, who is known pdfile, as Yzak.
I remember I watched Seed Destiny first, and throughout the series I saw that they mentioned a lot about the past, so it made me wonder if there was like something that came before, and then I found this, and even now it's still an amazing anime
Rau le Causet what have they done to him the og voice actor captured both sides of his character so well this cool calm leader and the other side of him that was this insane mad man who wanted to see the world burn
Exactly, what were they thinking?
New ra lue is literally Griffith from berserk
Ah my that’s pure nostalgia, watching the first episode on toonami. Then DVDs this is good. I love it.
WTF HAPPENED TO KIRA VOICE??????
this was unfortunately a total redub.
This is Max Mittelman's second time as the star leading male voice actor to play the main protagonist for the English dubbed version of the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise series.
The first protagonist he has voiced was Io Fleming from Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt.
He also voiced Ein Dalton from Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. Not a main protagonist like Kira or Io, but still a notable role.
@@TheAdorkableRJ yeah.
But the protagonist would've been better for him from that series though.
Maybe Max was a Gundam fan growing up.
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@@TheAdorkableRJ Io Flemming Gundam thunderbolt
I would like to see the ogival ocean dub with matt hill.
So I finally found it...
I've wanted to get a chance to hear this variation of the dub for quite a while but I could never find it anywhere. This was the first Gundam Series I ever watched from start to finish.
That being said, I can't bring myself to like this dub. There are multiple reasons for this but I am going to try take nostalgia out of the two primary reasons.
The first reason is the prior experience that the main cast had with other Gundam Series. Mittleman and Cherami were both on Thunderbolt and IBO respectively and they performed flawlessly. This doesn't feel like they are giving their all, rather like they filmed this on a tough day for them where the coffee guy didn't show. When compared to Matt Hill and Vanessa Morley's dub performances they do indeed fall short. And Mu's voice is an abomination, enough said.
The second reason is something that has bothered me about Funimation dubs for a while now - the ad libbed lines. I can take the ok voice acting and the cast changes but for the love of god stop putting in lines that aren't there! This is why dub shows like Dragon Maid failed. I'm not interested in hearing your personal take on the characters. Just do your damn job and keep the dialogue provided. Don't know if Marchi was involved in this but she should have been locked in the closet for this one.
I'm not a sub elitist but I would rather they just not continue with a dub for GSD. Shinn and Stella are two of my favorite characters from that one and I'd rather remember them as they were. Besides, Kirby Morrow is gone now and nobody can replace him.
What adlibs?? They did in this show. I can understand jn comedies because jokes kn one language might just not work when translated. But this? Also This isn’t a funimation dub. It’s Nyah post. Funi just published it
I honestly just don’t like a lot of the funination voice actors in general, some are okay but I’ve seen other dubbed anime where they do add extra lines in.. like why ?
Gundam seed may not be my most favorite gundam series but I will always appreciate it for being my first gundam series.
It IS my favorite. This dub is slicing my heart into a million pieces.
Good thing I have the ol' anime legends packs
@@MaddJakd I think it's great that you love this series.
The strikes activation sequence is so iconic
I just started playing SRW J. 2 Gundam series are present in that Game, SEED and G. The Previous Shuffle Alliance feel guilt for their failure to avert the Bloody Valentine Massacre, The Blue Cosmos are the ones who tried to usurp the Ultimate (Devil) gundam, Master Asia attacks the Archangel with his bare hands and freaks out the crew, The SEED cast is aghast that the gundam fight is even a thing. I just like how those parts of the story intertwine
Everyone: I like the OG dub better!
Me watching this for the first time: damn this is some cool shit
Yeah me too!
Original dub doesn't have a known pdfile voice actor. This one does.
@@ippo8477who
I miss the original dub already. I know the original was pretty cheezy, but it's nostalgic to me.
Awesome Gundam seed . Definitely will hold me over until Gundam seed Destiny
12:39 20 seconds is the moment when everyone's lives change forever.
Also, for those unaware, Bandai, Gundam Seed’s original licensor had the first dub commissioned in Vancouver, rather than in LA. The company went bankrupt in 2012, and since it’s extremely expensive to get Ocean to do it again, they chose to do a in-house dub. The reason they didn’t just overlap audios was because there was new content not present in the original version. I believe Sunrise had a hand in the casting as well. Plus, a couple of the OG actors aren’t doing much acting anymore.
Also, Dearka went from being voiced by Light Yagami to Lelouch Lamperouge. How awesome is that?!
Edit: Okay, we can all have our opinions, but could we stop being dicks about it?
I appreciate the information
I just wish they actually did more research into getting the names right.
@@XTheCrystalBeastGuyX So many different pronunciations of these bloody names. The way they pronounced Lacus is the worst out of all the changes.
I get it, but the nostalgia is constantly yelling at me. That this sucks, especially for the main characters. Like some of the cast could have came back. And as for Natarle Badgiruel voice actor sadly doesn't sound military enough.
And Kira went from Ed from Ed edd n eddy to saitama from one punch man.
This show 😢makes me cry. The character development and action blends well
I dont care what anyone says. Gundam seed is my favorite anime!
Seed may not be mine(I still like it), but I support you full on👍
@@FOXZILLA5734 thanks man. It's my 1st gundam. It's my favorite tied with code geass and inuyasha
I like Seed more than Seed Destiny. At least the character development is there, unlike Seed Destiny.
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
It was my first animation
I was born in 2000
When I was a little kid that was my first TV show
Now my 21 is my favorite show
I love Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
Mone was gundam wing
I remember being a high schooler when this came out then college for seed destiny. 2006
This show is SO good. Complex characters. Sci Fi world building of exceptional caliber. Varied and exciting settings, themes and plot.
Criminally under rated anime!!
Wish the og actors and actresses reprice their roles
Believe me, we all do. But they were too cheap to hire them again or to properly splice the original dub over the HD remaster.
@@alexanderdrake7984 Theres already a spliced HD remaster english dub out there
@@Raydnt69 I know, I'm saying the people that ordered a redub didn't bother to do it themselves. The spliced version that is out there though is only about 90% perfectly synced so why didn't they instead of redubbing it use their resources to make a perfectly synced version themselves.
The only actor I know in this dub is Ray Chase as Le Creuset's lieutenant. He was Gendo in THAT dub of Eva and he'll be in the new episodes of X-Men TAS.
Yeah, that's right. They're bringing back X-Men TAS.
The opening song slaps. I havn’t heard this in yeeaarrs.
Weird seeing legal Gundam episodes being uploaded by someone other than GundamInfo.
I actually really like the designs of the various ZAFT grunt MS, which makes it all the more disappointing how they get junked for recycled OYW designs in Destiny.
As for the dub, while newbies may find it perfectly fine, as someone who has seen the Ocean dub dozens and dozens of times, hearing the new voices is just so, so OFF. Like, hearing somebody other than Matt Hill and Sam Vincent as Kira and Athrun, much less someone other than Lisa Ann Beley and Trevor DuVall as Murrue and Mu makes me cringe so, so hard. Don't even get me started on replacing Mark Oliver as Rau, possibly the most pitch-perfect voice in the entire series.
EDIT: Also, LOL that they STILL couldn't get text-replacements on the intro and ending, leaving the massive wall of text like on the Ocean dub. Sheesh.
they are probably working off the original like Bandai had. It wasn't until quite a while after that it was made into HD and only released in the JP market.
Someone mentioned the blu-ray to have both dubs. If such, then this is based on the original and you can't overlap the ENG Dub into the remastered version. There are time differences, so this will both be based on the original. (i prefer the remastered opening)
You are clearly someone who can identity good voice acting, you have my respect good sir.
At the very least they should have had Kira and Athrun voiced Yuri Lowenthal and Johnny Yong Vosh, respectively.
It's a good thing I made a backup of the entire original dub. The original dub can almost be considered lost media now, you cannot find the original dub online anymore
Well.. it is knocking around online
Are you serious they really scrubbed it the same way they scrubbed the original patlabor movie manga dubs or even the 20th Century Fox dub of my neighbor Totoro which is completely different from what Disney did and also can only be found on old VHS tapes it’s nowhere to be found on digital media they’ve done the same thing to this series thank God I have the entire series on DVD way before this remastered came out
I prefer the original dub better, at least they say Lacus' name right
It’s actually pronounced as La-Koos in Latin. It means “Merry Christmas.”
@@michaelarroyo02 only Kira got the good presents
There have never been more truer words.
As a pure Gundam seed and Seed destiny fan. The dubbing is truly disappointing everyone sounds really off, I get the whole reason for a recast due to the original ocean dub studio going bankrupt but this new dubbing isn't it. Aside from a few voices I'm hearing with the new cast which actually isn't bad at all kinda cool actually. Kira's and Athrun's new VAs is throwing me off considerably to the point I feel like my ears are bleeding. I'm scared to hear lacus.... But I'll watch on for now it's been years since I watched this it's my favorite anime if all time.
Kiras was the only one that I didn't like to much, I was fine with the others, but yes the original was better
Still one of my all time favorite Gundam series to this day this is the remastered version right not bad still prefer the original voices but not bad.
😭 WHY??? This is one of the few anime I come back to watch every few years and I was excited to find out it been remastered. But the new voices quickly crushed that excitement.
It’s kinda stupid to remaster an anime with new voice actors that already had good dubbing to begin with🤦♀️ Like why bother if you’re going to do a disservice like that to the fans.
PS: If you have the OG dubbed show please share 🙏 I’ve been looking online for it but can’t find any of the episodes.
deadass same they ruined that shit :(
I wish they did the Seed Astray series.
That would be awesome. I'd love to see all the variations of mobile suits in astray. That one little video was awesome but they never did anything else with it
Where is your pfp from?
@@alexthorsman3186 I don't remember what actual site I was on, it's been awhile. I just googled Black Panther pics.
Maybe a video game.... but its expensive and pointless to animated series that already has established characters and machines
Me too.
I wish they did though.
anyone know where i can watch gundam seed english dubbed the original one not the remastered
Why they changed their voices? It's so wrong, specially Cagalli's 😭
It is rather unusual to redub. I speculate it is because of the actors ages and new SEED series coming out. When the new SEED movie was reannounced, that was enough confirmation for me.
Unpopular opinion, I VASTLY prefer this dub over the original.
they slaugthered the ending music. It was So beautifull in the original
Was kinda hoping Xander would be Athrun so it'd be Ryuji vs Ren for the series but eh this works too lol
I'm still hoping Ray Chase would voice Gilbert Durandal and maybe Bryce Paperbrook as Shinn Auska.
Before the posting of the cast, I was hoping that Kira was voiced by Johnny Yong Bosch while Athrun was Yuri Lowenthal sort of like a reverse Lelouch and Suzaku, Kira would sound more like Renton while Athrun would sound a little bit like Sasuke.
@@Herowatcher_007-42ah dude really! It could’ve been way cooler to have best duo chemistry but damn those funimation miss the chance
Nice sound effects, very real.
is this the HD remaster?
I dont really like Gundam Seed, but i do prefer the originak dub to whatever this is. Peace ✌🏻
I love the Ocean dub. I’m watching this for the first time right now. I’m really hoping Crunchyroll eventually uploads both dubs, until then, I guess I can rely on the physical media I have for Ocean’s dub when what we have on RUclips runs out.
Matt Hill's Kira voice is better.
More importantly why isn't this available on CrunchyRoll now? Funimation owns Crunchyroll and the dub is missing.
Is this the dub remaster?
Yes
Unfortunately
Original voice actors and the original version to the ending song was waaayyyyy better
True..why did they tone down the ending song..it was way more bombastic and better than this toned down ho-hum version.
@@shootingreal5945 you are 100% correct
Why the dub is not on Crunchyroll? Want to watch it on the app!
I'm still compiling my full thoughts, I don't think my issues are completely with the new VA's. But why change already established dialog? For example when Cagali is first introduced I thought it was brilliant to refer to them as "they" as androgynous as she appears at first. Second, when Kira yells that he's heading for the other shelter Murrue replies, "There's nothing LEFT of that block!" Which imo provided so much more emotion and a much more solid reason for Kira to follow with her instead of..it's not as safe..why? Because some random EF soldier told you? Hell no, they're actively shooting at YOU lady, I'll take my chances. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, though if this is a trend in the new dub I think a lot of soul will be missing.
shout out to funimation posting whole episodes lately for people who may have never seen these series
The new Dub is shit, though.
Nah, I just watched the HD remaster, then the movie trilogy with og cast, and the new dub is better overall
@@anzaca1you must be on some good shit, og dub was way better
They got Daman Mills to voice Yzak and he's a known pdfile, so no.
An interesting show. Not my favorite, but can definitely see how it lead to Code Geass and such.
What do you mean by lead to code geass??
@@gilgamesh-cigar4106 I guess a lot of things. MC dynamic similar to Lelouch & Suzaku, female characters similar to Kallem & Euphemia, Sunrise trying to mainstream popularize thier mechs by incorporating elements of other genres. I mean I think that's a good start.
Gundam Seed has others that are similar from the same character designer.... Though Code Geass character designers was CLAMP...
@@wuverrabbit Yeah, but Sunrise made Code Geass as well. Also I remember reading that the creator of Code Geass was heavily inspired by Gundam. Between the heroic looking white robot vs the monstrous red one, the masked man seeking revenge against an authoritarian government, etcetera.
Well the animation is similar to code geass, thanks to sunrise working with clamp.
I miss the original dub. Matt Hill was amazing as Kira Yamato
Just finished the remasted dub, it was good, took some getting used to, Johnny young Boash was the best part about it, he nails any role they give him, best dubed voice
Where did you watch it ?
9 anime
I'll never accept it for it has Daman Mills as Yzak and screenshots revealed him to be a pdfile.
@@ippo8477 the ones that came out in 2022 were deemed False so you talking about new ones?
Here's an idea. Quit redoing are childhoods and ruining good shows! Stop redubing animes! What made these memories special were the times they came from.
No Matt Hill sad face :(
I just noticed that its called "Mobile Suite Gundam".... that E...
When’s the rest of the episode coming to RUclips
Yay post more of Gundam seed please funimation can you do it for all the gundam fans please we appreciate
Ps if funimation post all 48 episode everybody of the gundam fans will be very happy same for me Becuase I love gundam series all the way🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pretty sure Funimation is only posting because they helped with the remastered dub. (Don't quote me on that)
Sumrise (the actual studio) had it up on their gundaminfo page but subbed for a bit.
I can feel the salt happening because of which dub it is.
Gundam wing was the first anime I watched with robots when I was younger. seed is one of my top favourites I was so excited when I seen the series and I was excited for my wife to watch it but as soon as I got 10 minutes into the first episode I had to turn it off it wasn’t the original voice actors and I just couldn’t do it. It put a sour taste in my mouth and I can’t watch it. I still have the original series on a external drive But if you haven’t seen the originals you’re gonna love this one no doubt with the voice actors they have!!!
This NYAV Post dub's OK, but I'm glad I've got the original box sets of the series. Dirt-cheap too.
I can hear that this is the NYAV Post dub. I like it and the Ocean Group dub.
I don't like dubs that have knwon pdfiles in them like Daman Mills.
Wow this is different. Makes me think about when Pokemon changed the whole Cast for Season 9 and threw many of us long time fans off for good. I've gotten used to the new Dub over time. So I'll give this new Seed Dub a chance too.
Hearing that OP is pure nostalgia
Is that Johnny Yong Bosch I hear or am I going crazy? I guess there's new voice actors. Weird hearing new voice actors. JYB is always a welcome sight to see though.
nope JYB is dearka lol
JYB is one of my favorite voices but....no, not this......just no.😔
I wish he could've did the voice at least one of the protagonist in any of the Mobile Suit Gundam series though.
Wait a minute, something isn't right here...this isn't the voices I remember....
I do like that they still say electric magnetic bucket.
It’s sounds like the voice of Richard Ian Cox
Why did they change the voice actors wtf? So unnecessary...
Biggest problem with this dub is that a lot of the voice actors have similar voices. It's harder to differentiate them
No, the biggest problem is that they got Daman Mills, a known pdfile, to play Yzak, even after that information came out.
Athruns voice sounds a little too whiney to me
Where to watch the original dubbed version?
What happened to the original audio?
Do they have rhe full 50 phases for gundam seed?
So glad I got the original on dvd
Same
God i hope they get the original VO actors for the new movie if they do a dub. Cause this is a travesty.
How could they do such a god awful job at this dumb. Its like how can we put the lease amout of care and effort into this as we can.
Does anyone know where i can find the ocean dub
I like max, but his kira sounds so generic compared to the iconic Matt Hill.
Where can I find the original dub version? It really doesn’t hit the same you know
I love gundam I can't wait for the new one
Ayo thats sick bro
False Peace is what I have for my Pixiv account. Damn.
The animation has held up well for being 14 years old.
This is the HD remastered
Not sure if serious.....
How come it’s been dub here, but I can’t find the dub on Crunchyroll?
Thank You ❤🙏
Does anyone else want revives of the original 4 stolen gundams
They really haven't revived those (not the HG anyway) WTF Bandai!?
It is SEED anniversary though. Hopefully that's in the works
I remember when they showed a preview of this on Twitter, and the person running the Twitter got into a spat with me on how to pronounce the Taiwanese city of Kaohsiung. In the dub, they clearly say it with a K said like Kowshung. The correction pronunciation is gau-shaang. Someone who happened to be Taiwanese agreed that it was wrong. Ironically, the original dub got it right the first time. This one never fixed it. Considering how bad this dub is, I'm not surprised.
Gettin' crossed up be like. @ 14:51
so wierd hearing a new dub cast after having the sunrise dub for so long.
Watching Gundam series and other military animes for years makes you realise why children dont belong on the field of battle. The only one would be Tanya but then again she is a old soul.
Voices all wrong. Lines messed up. End song and insert portion ruined. And Mobile 'Suite' Gundam? They butchered this redub. Friendly piece of advice, Funimation?
If it isn't broken, DON'T FIX IT.
Is this the original or the HD remaster?
Watching this again and then the Gundam Seed Movie in 2 weeks on May 7th! Likely not going to get Crunchy roll to watch it all but will see.
My condolences. This redub and the movie got Daman Mills, a known pdfile, to play Yzak.
@@ippo8477 Hah what a bad man. I honestly don't care about the details of the voice actors. But shame on him FR.
Cagali dubbed by cherami Leigh….it’s actually pretty nice.
No, she made her too whiny. I love Cherami Leigh, but she ruined Cagalli with lines like "whoa slow down there hot rod". Cagalli was pretty much all the anime voice acting Vanessa Moreley ever did, but she put a lot more effort into giving Cagalli a voice.