Bruh, engineers do love well made sophisticated designs, but they love cheap but quality stuff better, if anything can be done cheaper but just as good, it's the stuff that makes them feel good at night
Right now, a dude in rural China is having dinner with his family showing them this video of a couple white guys saying he did a good job on welding. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
He did a good job on welding because he doesn’t have a choice, he either does things right or he’s out of a job. And he doesn’t have time to watch videos
Seriously, if you're out in rural China living on a farm or a small village and you need to run errands but you're elderly and can't drive a car anymore, this is ideal. You still get some independence, you stay nice and dry and you can drag race the odd ox-cart.
@Phillip Aubin By the end of 2019 there are 98.3% rural road coverage in China. Actually the coverage clost to 90% on the 2011 by the report from United Nations ESCAP, Underestimatethe Infrastructure in China is laughable
@Phillip Aubin There are many types of "rural". I've seen "rural" area's in China WITH reliable electricity and (sometimes somewhat) well paved roads. "Rural"in China sometimes means shopping malls and up to a million inhabitants. But rural can also mean two houses, one cow and a chicken in the middle of nowhere, mostly a tourist destination 😉
This isn't made by one factory but by a whole ecosystem of little factories making parts at such scale that pricing simply becomes unimaginable in the USA.
It’s because’s he’s not a idiot. He can see what it represents. They can make this for $800. You could buy a full set of those rims and tires made in the US for $800. It wasn’t terrible quality and it had a market. If they can do that for $800 they can do anything. The American public isn’t going to ‘get manufacturing jobs back’ unless they are willing to take a MASSIVE pay cut. It was the same thing 5 years after they started making cars proper - they went from motorcycle 3 wheelers to BMW knock offs with reasonable quality in 5 years.
If they keep making improvements over time, while keeping costs low, that could help build up a reputation. I think there's a market for cheap electric cars right now. Cheaper the better. But it's like some people ride motorcycles, less ride mopeds. If they made a brand new electric car that was street legal, and under or around $5,000. I think I'd be interested. I always wondered growing up why there weren't any enclosed motorcycles or simpler options for transportation... It's because people kinda suck. Certain things just don't sell well enough. But that depends on where you are and when, so i mean, around this point in time i think that a cheap electric car can be a success. Maybe not. It's just a thought
That differential and rear axle alone is worth $900 bucks in the performance Go-Kart world. I wonder how the internal parts and axles look? It looks like it can take way more than 1 HP.
@@gtaonlinemodz4218 If you hit another one of these, not so bad :) It reminds me of the women who started the mass buying of SUVs to keep the kids safer since it is a bigger, stronger vehicle than most other cars on the road. Well, now you are very likely to hit another big strong SUV. Not so confident of a good outcome these days.
@@gtaonlinemodz4218 only if you get hit by someone else in a "real" car. Given its top speed is 23mph the chances of severe injury are actually pretty low if you hit something. It is not very heavy so will slow down quickly, if you manage to hit something in this you should not be allowed to drive at all....
It's actually pretty cool. The enclosed scooters and other similar items cost $5000 or more typically. Depending on where you live something like that could come in handy. I'm not sure what laws it would fall under where I live. It'd probably be regarded like a moped, but I'm guessing.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss - Although short circuits do indeed tend to lead to fire. When exactly have you heard about a lead acid battery fire, on a ventilated space?! Oh! Ridiculous bias! Hmm! Ok, we get it! More than changing engineering, a lot of short sighted people need to change mentality! ;-)
@@crpth1 That guy is just mad because he can't come to terms with the fact that a lead acid battery powered golf cart costs like 7 grand in the US, while this thing, which is a fully enclosed golf cart with more features and range, costs less than $2000.
@@scdevon that is the most ass backwards thing I heard lmao. This thing is cool everyone would drive it just because it's unique and cool, and the style is part of the charm
@@rexjolles it’s not backwards. He has a point. The styling is that strange ‘Chinglish’ style - a Chinese impression of Western Culture. Tho are why is boldly has the word ‘Fashion’ on the side. That’s why it has strange 90’s colours. That’s why it has chrome bars and a light bar.
Extra power? I would not want to go much faster in this, though I would want enough power for a solid 25 MPH even when fully loaded (to qualify as a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle) No faster though, since it has no airbags, seat belts, or crumple zones, and it would lose its legal status as a low speed vehicle. Added seatbelts would be nice, though. But I do think some useful upgrades could be had if the batteries were actually converted to Li-Ion and set under the body, the driver's seat moved farther back to accommodate fat americans, the steering wheel was in a more conventional position and size, and the speedometer cluster was made more accurate, and configurable for customary US units. Give the wipers a second faster speed, and make the audio "system" just a much simpler but powerful bluetooth stereo speaker system with a microphone and a USB cable routed to a phone/tablet tray, that can be used by the driver's phone. And make the front 'hood' a functional frunk with a durable cargo mesh net that could actually hold items. Final coup, replace front seat with a nice bucket seat with side bolsters and a heated bottom and back! Cheap, effective, and often used in more conventional EVs to save energy vs. running the climate control.
Exactly. I think this would be a great candidate for some LiFePO4 cells, 32700, or possibly prismatic/pouch cells like the kind used for solar purposes because that battery bay is big! Then strap 2 “Dongguan Freerchobby” 120100 BLDCs on there, powered by 2 BESC G2s, and add a ~500A BMS on there. Would cost about twice what the car does but for a relatively high-performing ‘micro electric car’ 3 grand isn’t too bad!
In Denmark we have so called mobility scooters. They are mostly three-wheelers with one wheel in front and two back. Many of them have damages in front because they tip over when you turn sharp. It's complete idiotic with one wheel in front. I've rather have two in front and one back, but this four wheeler would be a huge improvement. Btw our mob. scooters cost more than 4-times this vehicle.
@@peha524 3 wheel cars are a joke, if you have two in the back, your car is already wide enough for 2 in the front. It is beyond cheapo to try to remove one of four tires to save a tiny bit of cost.
@@americanrambler4972 That doesn't matter, everyone already has a driver's license. Making it 3 wheel and compromising safety to try to capture the 1% of the population without drivers licenses is silly.
Check out the recent video posted by channel "Wheelsboy", where a couple of white guys in China bought an old beater Geely Beauty Leopard (yes that is the actual name of the car). More specifically they bought the "fashion" trim of the Beauty Leopard, with a fashion badge right on the quarterpanel! Hard to believe that 20 years ago Geely was building this POS "sport coupe", and today Geely owns Volvo, Polestar, Lotus, 10% of Daimler Benz, and is putting out world class EVs like the Polestar 2 and Zeekr 001.
This is not about cheap labor. It is good engineering and cheap material cost. Sandy's point (I believe) is that he can't make this car this cheap even excluding labor cost.
@Lassi Kinnunen most the braking is done on the front brakes on a car this has none making them very crappy as all the weight is put on the front wheels, also yeh way it uses rods we don’t do that anymore for good reason lol
@@elliottslab Right, which is why this is barely registered as a vehicle. It's in the same ballpark as a golf cart (which does hurt when you ram golfers), but it's not a vehicle that really requires equipment for evasive maneuvers. Jason showed off the braking and it was totally adequate for this thing
It seems this business analyzes vehicle designs - it makes sense that they can access foreign vehicles for testing reasons without being required to import and register them as road-legal.
Makes for a great estate vehicle. I'd like to have it to run errands around the estate where I live. I could go to the store and market and it'll be perfect for the job.
It looks fine indoors and probably OK for optimal climates, but no AC and no heating means foggy/frozen windows and all that nonsense which would be a pain in the neck for practical everyday use in a lot of places I'm sure. Still a nice lil thing for the spot it fits.
It's a $1K vehicle with $300 batteries that costs another $1800 to import. With that balance there isn't much point to importing a cheaper version unless a bulk importer could reduce the port costs without adding too much of their own.
It's current technology. The bells and whistles you are talking about is probably just because there's no older option available to the cheng li car builders. It's projector beam headlights or just not fill the hole in the stamped steel body. It's their standard to the bare minimum. And factory cost of each individual part is just a fraction. Of the many many different factories and companies that all specialize in each different part that make this thing up.
@@1djbecker these cannot be imported in bulk into the USA. This one likely was brought in as a show vehicle with the exclusive requirement that it cannot be driven on US roads. Not a single safety mechanism, no ABS, no traction control, it cannot even be registered as a motorcycle, and thus, it cannot be imported in bulk or used on US roads.
@@chubbysumo2230 Really now, Then please tell me why here in South Carolina I have a sticker that cost me $5 to register my gas powered, and electric power golf carts(yes i have one of each), and I can drive them both on secondary roads, not the 4 lane going through the middle of town, but I can legally cross it, and drive the secondary roads to work if I want, and I sometimes do on very nice days as I'm about 7 minutes from my work, plus those stickers are for golf carts with no drivers license needed. So I have a feeling since these don't go more than 25 Mph they can be classified as electric golf carts here with the same sticker.
15:14 "They're buying this and this and putting their axle in and welding on the bits and pieces that they need to build their own product." Exactly why the cost is so low. Buying pre-existed components is much cheaper than designing and building from scrap.
@@somenygaard I think he was referring to the ability to achieve a comfortable living is the definition of human rights. The term human rights is not just a slogan by some government to throw at others and feel superior about. Look at the mess the poor people around the world are in, Latin America, Africa, India, Middle East, does anyone talk about their human rights? No because they are democracies... And according to us, does not deserve to live comfortable lives. China is singled out because they are succeeding with a different model. people in China has seen their living standard improve year after year, decade after decade, in all aspects. And we keep trying to tell them that they don't have human rights? And yes, I got all that from that one line. ;)
I actually love how they protect the battery terminal connections from the metal battery box by using the cardboard the batteries came in. Talk about being resourceful. When the lead acid batteries go bad, you could get some used leaf batteries and make a pack. This little thing would probably go forever on a charge then. The door slam is a nice old school thunk. Cant stand how they sound on modern stuff. Particularly Toyotas...ironic how some of the highest quality vehicles have the cheapest, tinniest sounding doors.
Well you'd have to completely redo the BMS and electronics for that which is not terribly cheap, but sure it would gain a ton of range and lose a lot of weight.
@@benbaselet2026 They sell LiPo Lithium batteries with exactly the same form factor as those marine deep cycle batteries, with BMS built right into the battery. You could just buy 5 of those for like $1500, replace the lead acid ones, and instantly the car will be faster, with twice the range, and will weigh less to boot.
I'm actually impressed. A radio and backup camera are a pretty good deal on a $900 car. If this were street legal, it would actually be pretty viable in big cities.
Please, I need answers and your the only man who can help me. I've desperately been looking for the actual dimensions of this vehicle. Online states about 59 inches wide but i just cant believe that. Could you please do me a solid and measure the dimensions of the Changli? Length, width and height? I'm looking for the dimensions of the body itself not including the bike rack rails or door mirrors. I'd greatly appreciate your help! Thank you!
The original machine had a base plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremmie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters.
Astounding! I wish we had these in the states! Maybe twice the price or even three times and an extra 10 mph and these things could fly off the shelves.
@@khamjaninja. Yeah, my mother-in-law lives in a retirement town in Arizona and they have special dispensation to drive golf carts around town. I imagine this would be quite a hit in places like that!
As was mentioned, keeping to the neighborhood electric vehicle or mobility scooter criteria is necessary for it to be legally driven. This is not a "car," and making it faster could remove your legal standing. If it was 3-wheeled, it could be classified as a motorcycle, without too many safety regulations.
@@questioner1596 Yes, however laws can be amended and up to about 30-35 mph is in a range where I believe the risks get to a level where it should be personal choice. Currently in many states I'm nearly sure you can legally drive 30-35 mph scooters without a license. In my state sadly and quite stupidly the law is that anything over 25 mph or over 50 cc must be driven with a license. Just like these laws there can be laws that require less serious safety requirements (and of course restrictions on where they can drive) for these kinds of slow speed cars (under 35 mph.) You don't need technology that can withstand a 60mph crash on a 30mph road. It also makes absolutely no sense that a slow speed car like this is regulated more than a way less safe three wheel "motorcycle" vehicle.
@@shadowdance4666 yup. Definitely thought about that typing that out. The difference is nobody knows what the Chinese citizen did to get a visit from the mobile execution unit. The government there has more in common with mexican cartels than the US government. As broken as it is right now here. But I'm not going to sit and pretend my cheap shit don't come from china either. Just gotta hope the distributors have a brain to make sure the conditions are somewhat humane because ultimately they have more of an idea of what's going on over there than I would looking online or at the stores.
boxed fenders I’ll wager that the guy getting executed might have a clue. I’m sure that they execute innocent people too. That happens everywhere that they have executions because men are imperfect even though enough of them believe otherwise
The price can be so competitive because of the advantage of the supply chain, that they can get all the parts locally, or even from a supplier across the street. Changli locates in ChangZhou city, a major city in Yangtze River Delta where you can find numerous manufacturing companies.
The brakes are enough. Someone mentioned them most cars use the front wheels for breaking. The reason is that the weight is on the front wheels. On this buggy it's in the rear wheels. It's basically set up like a cheap golf cart or riding mower. It's so ugly it's cute....
Because the speed and the weight is so low there's hardly any dynamic shifting of the point of gravity towards the front, so rear breaks are sufficient. If the speed and weight would be high than during breaking the dynamic point of gravity shifts towards the front so front breaks are very much required than.
@@johnsamu I agree that front brakes would be nice. Have you ever used a battery powered golf cart? Same thing but much heavier and it does fine if the red buggy went more than 20 mph then it would be a death trap otherwise. Also remember who is buying them. Old folks so they can get to the store. Mostly they drive slow - except for my mother in law, she went fast as her skills got worse. Her Camry started looking like a bumper car!
@@robertordewald8678 Good engineering and good marketing means knowing who your customers are. The (very) old people who want to bring their grandchildren to school and go shopping. So no need for a fast car and it must be cheap (old/retired people often aren't rich).
I seem to recall seeing them in Beijing yet they used to drive them mostly where the bicycles we're going. when I was there you could easily see them located in the old hutongs quarters of Beijing. (that's about almost 4 years ago and I'm sure things have changed a lot most likely since then.)
For real...a perfect car for small town america. Great to go from home to the grocery store, mall or random stuff around town and back. I would buy one if given the chance.
When he said that the motor was from a washing machine , I was wondering could you stick a motor on each back wheel ,( and shove extra batteries in ) , double your horse power ..
The trouble is making the motor controllers cooperate cheaply. You'd need some sort of steering angle sensor, and progressively vary the power to each wheel based on the amount of steering and accelerator pedal input. The track width, wheelbase and ratio of the rack would all need to be accounted for, so the controller would need to be calibrated for each specific vehicle configuration.
@@questioner1596 it is really simple to do. The controllers just take a torque command. You put the same torque command to each controller and you have the same function as a diff. No need for any sensors.
The first time I knew about Munroe and associates and what they do, it was from an article Jason Torchinsky wrote on Jalaopnik. Now these two legends are together in one youtube video. Great!
i would love one here in scotland but the police would have a canary if you tried to drive it on the road here. is it legal their? do you need to licence it?
You meant "it's getting better and better" and the Citroen 2CV was designed with rural use to. Given half a chance the Chinese can transform the world into a better place but we have egg heads who keep provoking them politically and militarily Tell me which country hasn't benefited from Chinese labour/business.
The weatherstripping method for the windows is used on airliners. I sealed up many a cockpit window this way. Tape is put on each side of the channel, then you smooth out the material, and remove the tape.
I like how Sandy was fascinated by it, he doesn't let biases get to him and the way he sees the positives in everything shows his passion for his job
Thats the engineer mind coming out.
Bruh, engineers do love well made sophisticated designs, but they love cheap but quality stuff better, if anything can be done cheaper but just as good, it's the stuff that makes them feel good at night
@@RENO_K It makes sense, because that shows a clever sense of engineering in finding a more efficient solution to a problem
Well… some of what he says in this video is actual positives. But a lot of it is sarcasm too.
that's the real spirit of a true professional with no prejudice!
Right now, a dude in rural China is having dinner with his family showing them this video of a couple white guys saying he did a good job on welding.
That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
it’s probably restricted in china
They don't have youtube in China. But maybe the video will make its way to him somehow
essentially slave labor built
He did a good job on welding because he doesn’t have a choice, he either does things right or he’s out of a job. And he doesn’t have time to watch videos
Regardless of that fact op was right in spirit because it's clear that these people took some level of pride in their work
Seriously, if you're out in rural China living on a farm or a small village and you need to run errands but you're elderly and can't drive a car anymore, this is ideal. You still get some independence, you stay nice and dry and you can drag race the odd ox-cart.
@Phillip Aubin By the end of 2019 there are 98.3% rural road coverage in China. Actually the coverage clost to 90% on the 2011 by the report from United Nations ESCAP, Underestimatethe Infrastructure in China is laughable
@@dinx3815 but the roads are shit.
Why did you write rural? Or China?
@Phillip Aubin There are many types of "rural". I've seen "rural" area's in China WITH reliable electricity and (sometimes somewhat) well paved roads. "Rural"in China sometimes means shopping malls and up to a million inhabitants. But rural can also mean two houses, one cow and a chicken in the middle of nowhere, mostly a tourist destination 😉
@@ihavenoname4851 road and street are 2 different things
This isn't made by one factory but by a whole ecosystem of little factories making parts at such scale that pricing simply becomes unimaginable in the USA.
so no forced labor by/with Uyghurs?
Also what is effectively slave labor helps.
That's what happens when union isn't involved
@@vueport99 So you're advocating Communism and slave labor?
@@vueport99 good job sport
This video made my day. Sandy is so genuinely enthused at how the car is built.
Exactly, much better than just talking shit about it
@@jwatkins5155 it’s a really good and positive attitude: “how did they do it?” is way more productive than “get a load of this shitbox”
It’s because’s he’s not a idiot. He can see what it represents. They can make this for $800. You could buy a full set of those rims and tires made in the US for $800. It wasn’t terrible quality and it had a market.
If they can do that for $800 they can do anything. The American public isn’t going to ‘get manufacturing jobs back’ unless they are willing to take a MASSIVE pay cut.
It was the same thing 5 years after they started making cars proper - they went from motorcycle 3 wheelers to BMW knock offs with reasonable quality in 5 years.
If they keep making improvements over time, while keeping costs low, that could help build up a reputation. I think there's a market for cheap electric cars right now. Cheaper the better.
But it's like some people ride motorcycles, less ride mopeds. If they made a brand new electric car that was street legal, and under or around $5,000. I think I'd be interested. I always wondered growing up why there weren't any enclosed motorcycles or simpler options for transportation...
It's because people kinda suck. Certain things just don't sell well enough. But that depends on where you are and when, so i mean, around this point in time i think that a cheap electric car can be a success.
Maybe not. It's just a thought
In China we called this "the car that make old man happy"(老头乐）
Hahaha I love that
Beats the hell of walking or limping back home.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ClunFunDun yes it means old man happy😂
Well it's faster than an ox cart... Has weather protection and can go far enough to be a practical tool. Plus it's dirt cheap.
"This door Gap is better than what Tesla got" LOL XD XD I was laughing hard too
As a Tesla owner i laughed so hard XD XD XD
@@skodbolle The Elon stans are probably going to murder him for saying it though
@@OuijTube naah we actually don't care :D
its funny because its true
@@skodbolle you obviously aren't a musketeer then.
A great review that was fair considering the price.
“How the hell did they make it for that money?”
Ever heard of slave labour?
@@designanddirection BINGO
Uighurs fine work
Shhhhht
That differential and rear axle alone is worth $900 bucks in the performance Go-Kart world. I wonder how the internal parts and axles look? It looks like it can take way more than 1 HP.
Imagine the second hand price on these. One careful owner, fifty bucks.
I would talk them up cause it would be so low, 50 bucks? Nah how bout 100?
including shipping 😂
But imagine if you get in a car crash with that car you would be like mashed potatoes
@@gtaonlinemodz4218 If you hit another one of these, not so bad :) It reminds me of the women who started the mass buying of SUVs to keep the kids safer since it is a bigger, stronger vehicle than most other cars on the road. Well, now you are very likely to hit another big strong SUV. Not so confident of a good outcome these days.
@@gtaonlinemodz4218 only if you get hit by someone else in a "real" car.
Given its top speed is 23mph the chances of severe injury are actually pretty low if you hit something. It is not very heavy so will slow down quickly, if you manage to hit something in this you should not be allowed to drive at all....
A car that is cheaper than a phone, well that sums it up really nicely !
The lower labour cost in China used to contribute to cheaper price😀But I believe it will be a different story in decades!
Please tell me im not the
only who wants one of these?😂
Nope your not.
It's actually pretty cool. The enclosed scooters and other similar items cost $5000 or more typically. Depending on where you live something like that could come in handy. I'm not sure what laws it would fall under where I live. It'd probably be regarded like a moped, but I'm guessing.
Needs a bit more safety before I’d trust it out on the road
I want one because going to the grocery store is an 8-hour round-trip on the bus. >_< I hope it's legal without a license.
Negatory. I'm still trying to find a way to incorporate one into my life.
This actually could have some practical industry use here in the US, think security in a warehouse or campus etc.
Rollerblades would be more effective.
I think I'd want to put my fellow countrymen in something a little more... umm.. confidence enspiring. Also not trying to set my garage on fire
@@TheAnnoyingBoss - Although short circuits do indeed tend to lead to fire.
When exactly have you heard about a lead acid battery fire, on a ventilated space?!
Oh! Ridiculous bias! Hmm! Ok, we get it!
More than changing engineering, a lot of short sighted people need to change mentality! ;-)
@@crpth1 That guy is just mad because he can't come to terms with the fact that a lead acid battery powered golf cart costs like 7 grand in the US, while this thing, which is a fully enclosed golf cart with more features and range, costs less than $2000.
11:10 "they tell me this is an old man car."
"old man car?" -passive aggressivly slams door bc he likes it-
Millennials in America would drive this as a gag or to be "nerdy-hip" or Green in America. I wish the styling wasn't so "Asian" looking though.
@@scdevon the styling looks like a toy car ngl
@@scdevon that is the most ass backwards thing I heard lmao. This thing is cool everyone would drive it just because it's unique and cool, and the style is part of the charm
@@rexjolles it’s not backwards. He has a point. The styling is that strange ‘Chinglish’ style - a Chinese impression of Western Culture. Tho are why is boldly has the word ‘Fashion’ on the side. That’s why it has strange 90’s colours. That’s why it has chrome bars and a light bar.
@@5hiftyL1v3a I wasn't talking about the Asia comment
"The gaps on the door are better than what Tesla's got." - LOL!
Does the $7500 tax credit apply? LOL
if only it was street legal- and you'd have to pay for car insurance for it.
Yes. IRS will send you $6300 check. 😂😂😂😂
😂 if you buy 20 of them to get over 30kWh, perhaps.
Variable formation: Train it is.
Schools: no bikes or skateboards inside the building
This guy: *”are you challenging me?”*
See, this is the kind of thing we need to see upgraded. Extra power, and battery. Seems simple enough. Would be one of the coolest projects ever
bigger motor, Lipo batteries ect.?
Extra power? I would not want to go much faster in this, though I would want enough power for a solid 25 MPH even when fully loaded (to qualify as a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle) No faster though, since it has no airbags, seat belts, or crumple zones, and it would lose its legal status as a low speed vehicle. Added seatbelts would be nice, though. But I do think some useful upgrades could be had if the batteries were actually converted to Li-Ion and set under the body, the driver's seat moved farther back to accommodate fat americans, the steering wheel was in a more conventional position and size, and the speedometer cluster was made more accurate, and configurable for customary US units. Give the wipers a second faster speed, and make the audio "system" just a much simpler but powerful bluetooth stereo speaker system with a microphone and a USB cable routed to a phone/tablet tray, that can be used by the driver's phone. And make the front 'hood' a functional frunk with a durable cargo mesh net that could actually hold items. Final coup, replace front seat with a nice bucket seat with side bolsters and a heated bottom and back! Cheap, effective, and often used in more conventional EVs to save energy vs. running the climate control.
It also needs a seat that folds into a bed.
@@SweetBearCub Get CyberLandr to create a proper living space. Only $50,000
Exactly. I think this would be a great candidate for some LiFePO4 cells, 32700, or possibly prismatic/pouch cells like the kind used for solar purposes because that battery bay is big! Then strap 2 “Dongguan Freerchobby” 120100 BLDCs on there, powered by 2 BESC G2s, and add a ~500A BMS on there. Would cost about twice what the car does but for a relatively high-performing ‘micro electric car’ 3 grand isn’t too bad!
I love the way Sandy appreciates details with no bias
There needs to be a racing series with these
He sorta did this a few videos ago
@@AZITHEMLGPRO We are talking about all vehical are these kind.
Or endurance. LeMans with these anybody?
You stole my idea lol
GOTTA GO FAST
The curved glass alone would cost more in America than what they charged gor the whole vehicle
It’s actually a mobility scooter for senior citizens which explains why this vehicle has more amenities than ordinary golf carts.
In Denmark we have so called mobility scooters. They are mostly three-wheelers with one wheel in front and two back. Many of them have damages in front because they tip over when you turn sharp. It's complete idiotic with one wheel in front. I've rather have two in front and one back, but this four wheeler would be a huge improvement. Btw our mob. scooters cost more than 4-times this vehicle.
In retirement communities in the US golf carts are common mobility scooters.
@@peha524 3 wheel cars are a joke, if you have two in the back, your car is already wide enough for 2 in the front. It is beyond cheapo to try to remove one of four tires to save a tiny bit of cost.
@@_PatrickO lots of times local laws, taxes and regulations are different for a 3 wheeled vehicle vs a 4 wheeled vehicle.
@@americanrambler4972 That doesn't matter, everyone already has a driver's license. Making it 3 wheel and compromising safety to try to capture the 1% of the population without drivers licenses is silly.
The stickers all over it really help it look like a toy. I especially like the "Fashion" one. Really adds a touch of class!
Check out the recent video posted by channel "Wheelsboy", where a couple of white guys in China bought an old beater Geely Beauty Leopard (yes that is the actual name of the car). More specifically they bought the "fashion" trim of the Beauty Leopard, with a fashion badge right on the quarterpanel! Hard to believe that 20 years ago Geely was building this POS "sport coupe", and today Geely owns Volvo, Polestar, Lotus, 10% of Daimler Benz, and is putting out world class EVs like the Polestar 2 and Zeekr 001.
This is not about cheap labor. It is good engineering and cheap material cost. Sandy's point (I believe) is that he can't make this car this cheap even excluding labor cost.
I mean it’s far from a safe just look at the brakes 😂
@Lassi Kinnunen most the braking is done on the front brakes on a car this has none making them very crappy as all the weight is put on the front wheels, also yeh way it uses rods we don’t do that anymore for good reason lol
@@elliottslab It also goes less than 25mph and weighs as much as a Porta-potty, it doesn't need brembos
@@WittyDroog 25mph still hurts when you hit stuff lol
@@elliottslab Right, which is why this is barely registered as a vehicle. It's in the same ballpark as a golf cart (which does hurt when you ram golfers), but it's not a vehicle that really requires equipment for evasive maneuvers. Jason showed off the braking and it was totally adequate for this thing
There's nothing like watching a great engineer have their mind blown by cleaver design.
It's half the reason why I watch RUclips.
this is about to blow up on chinese youtube
"Chinese RUclips" lol
You got a point
On WeChat
Youku tudou
Chinese Invention "TubeYou"
Sandy “what is this shit?” 😂 Genuinely I think he was blown away by how cheap & yet well made it is!
Please more videos with Sandy!
I work at a golf course and when people break the carts, the repairs usually cost half of the price of this car.
If there is a problem buy a new one
2:26 - OMFG a blue Renault Kwid in America !!
I was trying to figure out what that was! I could tell it was a Renault but not the model. Definitely the first one I've seen in the US
It seems this business analyzes vehicle designs - it makes sense that they can access foreign vehicles for testing reasons without being required to import and register them as road-legal.
When will Renault make it to NA
@@RockyFoxxowo, they were here and left.
Where are they known as the Kwid?
I would absolutely love to have one of these! This would be perfect for 80% of my day to day needs
Center drivers seat?? Its basically an Electric McLaren F1
Makes for a great estate vehicle. I'd like to have it to run errands around the estate where I live. I could go to the store and market and it'll be perfect for the job.
It looks fine indoors and probably OK for optimal climates, but no AC and no heating means foggy/frozen windows and all that nonsense which would be a pain in the neck for practical everyday use in a lot of places I'm sure. Still a nice lil thing for the spot it fits.
More videos with Sandy Munro please! I'd love to see him geek out on normal cars too!
If golf carts cost 5x more, then these things should be a pretty good alternative.
There are cheaper ones than chanli because this one is pretty fancy.
It's a $1K vehicle with $300 batteries that costs another $1800 to import. With that balance there isn't much point to importing a cheaper version unless a bulk importer could reduce the port costs without adding too much of their own.
It's current technology. The bells and whistles you are talking about is probably just because there's no older option available to the cheng li car builders. It's projector beam headlights or just not fill the hole in the stamped steel body. It's their standard to the bare minimum. And factory cost of each individual part is just a fraction. Of the many many different factories and companies that all specialize in each different part that make this thing up.
For a car it's among the less typically named products to come out of China that has a funny sounding name.
@@1djbecker these cannot be imported in bulk into the USA. This one likely was brought in as a show vehicle with the exclusive requirement that it cannot be driven on US roads. Not a single safety mechanism, no ABS, no traction control, it cannot even be registered as a motorcycle, and thus, it cannot be imported in bulk or used on US roads.
@@chubbysumo2230 Really now, Then please tell me why here in South Carolina I have a sticker that cost me $5 to register my gas powered, and electric power golf carts(yes i have one of each), and I can drive them both on secondary roads, not the 4 lane going through the middle of town, but I can legally cross it, and drive the secondary roads to work if I want, and I sometimes do on very nice days as I'm about 7 minutes from my work, plus those stickers are for golf carts with no drivers license needed. So I have a feeling since these don't go more than 25 Mph they can be classified as electric golf carts here with the same sticker.
15:14
"They're buying this and this and putting their axle in and welding on the bits and pieces that they need to build their own product."
Exactly why the cost is so low. Buying pre-existed components is much cheaper than designing and building from scrap.
Tell that to Tesla
That is the smallest sway arm I've ever seen but it's still a sway arm. It looks like it was adapted from an office chair, but it works.
That thing is totally worth a thousand bucks.
@@justynthyme Not if you live in China.
@@somenygaard That mean humanright in China.(For people living in rural area to drive without being blewed or wed)
@@hanningwang3481 I dont understand, can you explain? Thanks!!
It's probably more reliable than most domestic cars
@@somenygaard I think he was referring to the ability to achieve a comfortable living is the definition of human rights. The term human rights is not just a slogan by some government to throw at others and feel superior about. Look at the mess the poor people around the world are in, Latin America, Africa, India, Middle East, does anyone talk about their human rights? No because they are democracies... And according to us, does not deserve to live comfortable lives. China is singled out because they are succeeding with a different model. people in China has seen their living standard improve year after year, decade after decade, in all aspects. And we keep trying to tell them that they don't have human rights?
And yes, I got all that from that one line. ;)
Alternate video title: How to get Sandy laughing hysterically throughout the day for $1200.
I actually love how they protect the battery terminal connections from the metal battery box by using the cardboard the batteries came in.
Talk about being resourceful.
When the lead acid batteries go bad, you could get some used leaf batteries and make a pack.
This little thing would probably go forever on a charge then.
The door slam is a nice old school thunk.
Cant stand how they sound on modern stuff. Particularly Toyotas...ironic how some of the highest quality vehicles have the cheapest, tinniest sounding doors.
Well you'd have to completely redo the BMS and electronics for that which is not terribly cheap, but sure it would gain a ton of range and lose a lot of weight.
@@benbaselet2026 They sell LiPo Lithium batteries with exactly the same form factor as those marine deep cycle batteries, with BMS built right into the battery. You could just buy 5 of those for like $1500, replace the lead acid ones, and instantly the car will be faster, with twice the range, and will weigh less to boot.
3:41 Renault Kwid :D
Show this "car" for us plz!!!!!
I'm actually impressed. A radio and backup camera are a pretty good deal on a $900 car. If this were street legal, it would actually be pretty viable in big cities.
Hey! that's not the Car Wizard!
wiiiizard!
Next episode of Hoovies Garage
Just what I need to get from my house to the dollar store 5 miles away, or the post office 3 miles away. It even has heat! Are those 12" wheels?
This would be great if you have a big property to get around on. That or a business.
Wish they sell these back in my college years
I would totally drive it every day, picking up ladies and stuff...
Don't underestimate tiny cars, chicks love them
But the fat girls you pull couldn't fit 😂
@@ajones3038 nah, fatties find a car that weighs less than them offensive
Small chicks
@@gadgetsage the best kind
Jason is so proud of his baby. lol
1:19 there's no way that door shuts that densely.
i was expecting it to be like closing the lid on a box of fries.
I can't believe you took the Changli to Sandy. Well done.
Please, I need answers and your the only man who can help me. I've desperately been looking for the actual dimensions of this vehicle. Online states about 59 inches wide but i just cant believe that. Could you please do me a solid and measure the dimensions of the Changli? Length, width and height? I'm looking for the dimensions of the body itself not including the bike rack rails or door mirrors. I'd greatly appreciate your help! Thank you!
I honestly couldnt believe the de-grundling on the trendal arms girders. Not to mention the dephase coupling on the rotary encaburators
The original machine had a base plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremmie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters.
I kind of want one of these for the beach here. 😂
“Does it have a mirror? OH MY GOD!” 😂
Gave up on mask wearing after 30 seconds...
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I wish we had these in the states!
Maybe twice the price or even three times and an extra 10 mph and these things could fly off the shelves.
Build a decent size Li-Ion pack and install a bigger motor, and you're golden.
@@khamjaninja. Yeah, my mother-in-law lives in a retirement town in Arizona and they have special dispensation to drive golf carts around town. I imagine this would be quite a hit in places like that!
@@skmetal7 you can choose the lithium ion pack allready this guy just wanted to base model that's why the pack is sold separately
As was mentioned, keeping to the neighborhood electric vehicle or mobility scooter criteria is necessary for it to be legally driven. This is not a "car," and making it faster could remove your legal standing. If it was 3-wheeled, it could be classified as a motorcycle, without too many safety regulations.
@@questioner1596 Yes, however laws can be amended and up to about 30-35 mph is in a range where I believe the risks get to a level where it should be personal choice. Currently in many states I'm nearly sure you can legally drive 30-35 mph scooters without a license. In my state sadly and quite stupidly the law is that anything over 25 mph or over 50 cc must be driven with a license.
Just like these laws there can be laws that require less serious safety requirements (and of course restrictions on where they can drive) for these kinds of slow speed cars (under 35 mph.) You don't need technology that can withstand a 60mph crash on a 30mph road.
It also makes absolutely no sense that a slow speed car like this is regulated more than a way less safe three wheel "motorcycle" vehicle.
Thank you Jalopnik ; thank you Mr Sandy Munro , big respect
I’d rather have this than a golf cart! Lol
I have been a voc school and factory trained Mechanic for 46 years and am equally impressed with the product.
Imma go re watch every Changli video Jalopnik made...
If I lived in town and didn't have to get on the highway to get to work or food, I woukd totally buy one of these.
Likewise
This is cheaper and better than my electric bicycle
Does your bicycle come from a country that executes more people than any other country?
boxed fenders well, the parts come from China I’ll bet but, it’s assembled in the US I believe. Both are big in that regards
@@shadowdance4666 yup. Definitely thought about that typing that out. The difference is nobody knows what the Chinese citizen did to get a visit from the mobile execution unit. The government there has more in common with mexican cartels than the US government. As broken as it is right now here. But I'm not going to sit and pretend my cheap shit don't come from china either. Just gotta hope the distributors have a brain to make sure the conditions are somewhat humane because ultimately they have more of an idea of what's going on over there than I would looking online or at the stores.
boxed fenders I’ll wager that the guy getting executed might have a clue. I’m sure that they execute innocent people too. That happens everywhere that they have executions because men are imperfect even though enough of them believe otherwise
The price can be so competitive because of the advantage of the supply chain, that they can get all the parts locally, or even from a supplier across the street. Changli locates in ChangZhou city, a major city in Yangtze River Delta where you can find numerous manufacturing companies.
9:04 This should be the Changli's official tagline
"None of it is as crappy as it should be"
Eh, I think @5:22 would work better XD
Lmaooo
@@FappinSteve 5:05 is even better!
I love how thrilled he is with it. It's really a charming little car and I would love to see someone just go nuts customizing one.
I'm legit impressed! Kinda has a Nissan S Cargo vibe.
That thing will not break down. It will DISINTEGRATE within a year. 😵😱🤣🤣🤣
The brakes are enough. Someone mentioned them most cars use the front wheels for breaking. The reason is that the weight is on the front wheels. On this buggy it's in the rear wheels. It's basically set up like a cheap golf cart or riding mower. It's so ugly it's cute....
I get what you're saying, but it's such a light car that sitting in in would make the front heavier.
Edit: and yes it is also kinda cute
Because the speed and the weight is so low there's hardly any dynamic shifting of the point of gravity towards the front, so rear breaks are sufficient.
If the speed and weight would be high than during breaking the dynamic point of gravity shifts towards the front so front breaks are very much required than.
@@johnsamu I agree that front brakes would be nice. Have you ever used a battery powered golf cart? Same thing but much heavier and it does fine if the red buggy went more than 20 mph then it would be a death trap otherwise. Also remember who is buying them. Old folks so they can get to the store. Mostly they drive slow - except for my mother in law, she went fast as her skills got worse. Her Camry started looking like a bumper car!
@@robertordewald8678 Good engineering and good marketing means knowing who your customers are. The (very) old people who want to bring their grandchildren to school and go shopping. So no need for a fast car and it must be cheap (old/retired people often aren't rich).
Also it's electric so it can engine brake down to 0mph
I have only ONE question. Is it street legal in the USA?
You can tell Sandy is jealous and he's definitely gonna go out and buy one for himself xD
I seem to recall seeing them in Beijing yet they used to drive them mostly where the bicycles we're going. when I was there you could easily see them located in the old hutongs quarters of Beijing. (that's about almost 4 years ago and I'm sure things have changed a lot most likely since then.)
This is a grown ups version of a power wheels
Soon we can buy cars from the dollar store. That scary.
When Postman Pat pimps his ride
For real...a perfect car for small town america. Great to go from home to the grocery store, mall or random stuff around town and back.
I would buy one if given the chance.
When he said that the motor was from a washing machine , I was wondering could you stick a motor on each back wheel ,( and shove extra batteries in ) , double your horse power ..
The trouble is making the motor controllers cooperate cheaply. You'd need some sort of steering angle sensor, and progressively vary the power to each wheel based on the amount of steering and accelerator pedal input. The track width, wheelbase and ratio of the rack would all need to be accounted for, so the controller would need to be calibrated for each specific vehicle configuration.
@@questioner1596 Yeah, easiest way to double-up power with a second motor would be to gang them together
@@questioner1596 it is really simple to do. The controllers just take a torque command. You put the same torque command to each controller and you have the same function as a diff. No need for any sensors.
@@compwiz101 can you imagine how that thing would go with a Tesla drive train? 😂
Just put li-ons under the seat, and presto 100 miles range!
I would love to see a video explaining some of the specs on why drums can be as good as disk brakes.
I want this grandpa to review everything I'm ever going to buy 😂
The first time I knew about Munroe and associates and what they do, it was from an article Jason Torchinsky wrote on Jalaopnik. Now these two legends are together in one youtube video. Great!
Jason's having better luck with this thing than he is with his VW Tiguan !
That headlight stalk is exactly the same one on my 1980 corolla!
Someday people will look on the changli as the new Mini
Winning every rally in the snow? Naaaa
i would love one here in scotland but the police would have a canary if you tried to drive it on the road here. is it legal their? do you need to licence it?
12:00 That's not a McPherson strut 🙄🤔
Thank you! It has nothing to do with steering the "car"
Lol just like that's a washing machine motor..
He's not talking about the tie rod that he has his hand on, he's talking about the strut behind it. Notice he points to it at 11:59.
@@PlayWaves1 a McPherson strut turns with the steerings..
@@iamelvisman68 Ah ok.
"Hi there! As its raining and all, I saw you and wondered if you wanted a lift to the office...."
02:28 I see a Renault Kwid in the background. Ooooh
You're right ! I hope they have a look at it too 😅😄
they have the indian version
You meant "it's getting better and better" and the Citroen 2CV was designed with rural use to. Given half a chance the Chinese can transform the world into a better place
but we have egg heads who keep provoking them politically and militarily Tell me which country hasn't benefited from Chinese labour/business.
This cost about the same as my gaming laptop
@Adrian Vegas second hand from craigslist?
But your laptop hopefully won't need repairs just because you drive it hard on bumpy roads?
How much was shipping? And what fees to allow it in the US?
I want one! Ummm, I have a sewing machine that uses the same size motor.
The weatherstripping method for the windows is used on airliners. I sealed up many a cockpit window this way. Tape is put on each side of the channel, then you smooth out the material, and remove the tape.
I say drop a 5hp motor in it. Should make it fly. Lol
I mean, it would be five times as powerful...
@@timweber4318 true. I'm just saying that it goes pretty fast with just the 1hp motor. So 5hp would make it like a sports car
Awesome! More of this stuff please!!
The tailgate they smashed on the Ford cost more to FIX , then that whole car is to BUY!
I’ve visited where they make these. Yup, manual welds and no on site stamp machines being used.
16:44 This guy is hilarious!
How much is shipping tho?
Damn, I need one lol
Like.. we could be classified as consultants or something
4:47: "I mean... the gaps in the doors... are better than on a Tesla" < double-handed facepalm >
sandy munro AND torchinsky? Never clicked faster on a youtube video great job!