As an ordinary Chinese, as long as it does not affect my life, most people can accept it, at least on the surface, they will not make any discriminatory behavior. But once this kind of thing happens to the family, the elders are generally quite repulsive, especially will not accept same-sex marriage.
Around 20 years ago, in south China, small city, we had some lesbian and gay friends. People around were not talking directly about that but nobody showed disaprovals. Chinese people are quite tolerant for many things.
@@jinhub2175Chinese state media criticized discrimination against gay people but gay marriage is not approved by them and gay tv shows are forbidden. So it’s more like neither bullying nor encouraging.
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH true that why they show lot immoral like when people fall on streets no one even go to help the person everyone mind their own bussiness to point no one show empathy or kindness
on the other hand, it is very bad to talk about any community without its participation. Imagine Americans discussing racism where all the discussants are perfectly blond-haired, blue-eyed Anglo-Saxons. That would be weird. Likewise, LGBTQ people - regardless of whether you like them or don't like them, accept them or not, are part of every society, they should be visible, especially in matters that directly concern them.
@@moonieek ok, I understand your point of view. Most of the people in this interview are LGBTQ or supportive, and I agree with you that this is a biased cross-section of the community. The problem is that street interviews are generally biased, they are not statistical research where you set the research conditions, sample size, etc. . You could probably even consider it an attempt at whitewashing, even if someone from the community was used to do it. However, I wouldn't go that far and I don't think that's the point. Street interviews are simply a source of opinions, they will never be a source of facts
i love that you’re so respectful and engaging when you talk to them! super nice to see!! also all these people u interviewed are so cool. like a prince for shanghai disney 🙀🙀
I've heard that Shanghai is more tolerant than Tokyo and this video would tend to support this. Frankly, the opinions expressed sound very sophisticated and genuine. I think tolerance of minorities of all sorts is a good barometer of a society's health. Just look at Russia as a counterexample.
The globalist media and their crap and their liberal ideas to destroy countries with that type of crap, first the globalists promote this stupid ideas and destroy cultures , being yourself God made woman and man period dont try to force yourr masters ideas on us , these people the elite in the world promote satanism and degrade your , dont promote globalist cabal satanic ideas
@@DutchComedian The situation is similar to that in Shanghai. The younger generation supports it, but the support rate may not be as high as in Shanghai. The older generation across China is almost all opposed to it.
Many people believe any sexuality that differs from heterosexual "norms" is considered the result of trauma or confusion as a child. Though I (a female) experienced SA when I was around 6, it was not the result of me being bisexual. When I was in preschool (about 3 years old), the very first day of attending, we were assigned seats and I was placed next to a girl the same age as me with bright green eyes and freckles. I was ABSOLUTELY infatuated with her (yes, it was a crush). We didn't even communicate because we were so young. I'm pretty sure we never even talked once, we'd just look at each other and smile and that was literally it, but my heart would pound and I wanted to show her "affection" that I literally had no clue was even about. I didn't know what gay or straight was, I just knew I liked her more than I liked anyone else, even more than those who actually talked to me or were really nice to me. You could try to say it was "innocent admiration", but I know what that would have felt like, so no it was not. Fastforward 21 years, I'm with a beautiful Texan woman who loves me unconditionally and I love her the same. I never changed, I was never influenced, nor was my ultimate decision to marry a woman the result of trauma. I was actually BORN this way.
Yeahh, when I came out to my mother as trans like the next day she said something along the lines of “was there army sexual trauma you didn’t tell me about?” No… and it’s pretty upsetting to hear that she assumed my identity was the result of being damaged somehow Hope you and homegirl are going strong
That’s actually a psychological research theory that scientists made regarding to understanding homosexuality that most ignorant homophobic people used to tell you somethings wrong with you ! Don’t buy it since it’s just a research theory not facts ! plus there’s more scientifically research that supports homosexuality as natural as it’s seen in nature !
The ultimate goal of sexuality by “higher design” is reproduction. Continuation of human race. Sexuality other than that purpose is selfish is abomination.
uh as a Chinese who is not a citizen of Shanghai I would say this video is only a representation of inclusiveness of Shanghai(though I suspect this too. It is possible that gender noncomforming people are more likely to be chosen as interviewees) I don't think any of the other cities in China have the similar level of inclusiveness as Shanghai owing to the fact that Shanghai is the center of multiculturalism and globalization due to historical reasons. All other cities have conditions that is MUCH WORSER for queers, including Beijing. I lived in a relatively inclusive city compared to other parts of the country and I still cannot believe that the video was a interview target at all citizens(most of the intervewees are queer and/or with a noncomforming dressing). Our country is working hard to erase us. (ex. speech control and arbitrary law enforcement, including arresting those who post iNaPpRoPrIaTe contents online and participating in march that fails to get started before the police came)
As someone who goes to middle school in Shanghai, sometimes when two boys are very close to each other in our class, we ship them and call them gay.(just for fun
I spent about a week in Shanghai earlier this year and I actually saw two young fashionable girls kiss each other at a train station whilst I was there which I was really surprised about as a gay man, because it was the first time on my Asian trip I saw gay PDA. I can definitely tell that at least of lot of the younger people of the bigger cities in China are a lot more LGBT friendly than people expect especially Shanghai and Chengdu.
Young Chinese people seem to be, not only very beautiful, they are so articulate & impressive!: there seems to be a level of frankness, depth & intelligence that I don’t often find in the Americas…
That's what China has been in history - what China has always been like. Homosexuality is known, accepted, but not celebrated either if you look into Chinese history. It's just a normal thing that exist in human society. And China doesn't have that Christian religious element which also is the major reason in America that make things hard. China is like: Why make a big fuss about it in either direction? But things may be changing now with all the western influence.
I was born and raised in Shanghai. It is a city that is very diverse and accepting. I love it. I had a lot of friends who are LGBTQ, they are generally respectful people. Don’t impose their view on others.
China has 70 million gay men, not counting lesbians, bi people, or trans people. That's more people than entire countries, and yet there are no civil or economic protections for LGBT people, let alone gay marriage. I really admire China for a lot of reasons, but this area is one of my biggest disappointments with China. I'm hoping that I live to see the day where LGBT Chinese people get full civil and economic protections, and the culture shifts in a positive direction for LGBT Chinese people.
infact no need to compare everything with foreigner and don't need to blindly admire them. you have your way and freedom. not like what western world used to blame China is oppression.
Attitudes here don't seem all that different from here in the United States except people in China seem to be more willing to be candid and not sugar coat things completely.
China is way more progressive than the U.S lol , there are places in the U.S where LGBTQ can not walk or pass by. Is like Curfew towns but for LGBTQ + People. The most progressive people I have found about LGBTQ+ were people living in China. Outside of China I can't think of another country as Progresive as China except some Nordic countries but even those Nordic countries aren't that super progressive either and have very bad rights for Indigenous people. Like Sami , Elfadalians, Jämts.
sure...This is not representative of the majority of Chinese people .China is probably the most conservative and traditional country, the lgbtq world has nothing in common with the values of Lao Tse and Confucius
My take is that in Asia LGBTQ is not accepted or disapproved one way or the other. Where as in the predominantly christian countries, the Christian hardliners/fundamentalists see LGBTQ as a threat to the their society and religion.
There are also a lot of people in Asia that very strongly disapprove of this type of behavior. I knew a gay Chinese guy and he was even afraid to talk about it in public to me when we sat on the train. Compared to my home country in Australia I was confused why he was afraid of any mention of it. I only know 2 gays and neither of them would dare come out to their parents.
way more tolerant. Being gay here is not big deal. I'm not LGBT but so many of my friends are and they say China is more tolerant than South Korea as well. Honestly the only Asian countries that are more tolerant than China is probably Japan and Thailand.
Seeing that after reading a book about the difficult way of surviving for gay in china in mid 1990s (北京同志研究社) make me really happy because I see how life is easier for them now
I think the difference is Americans LGBT are bad due to the crazy ones or those who are just looking for attention while the good ones are being painted the same color as the bad ones. In China, most are normal and they do not force you to just accept them, because they know it takes time to accept something new and while waiting, they will show you respect and love so you could understand they are still people that can be accepted in our society. work to gain your recognition and do not enforce your belief onto others.
There is already too much division and hatred in this world. I'm a straight traditional Chinese man born and raised in the UK. I don't care if your black or white, Christian or Muslim, tall or short, thin or fat, Chinese or Japanese, British or German, straight or gay. Just respect me and I will respect you. As simple as that. We can all be friends, you do you and I'll do me. I have no right to tell you what way to live your life. Do not bring harm to others physically or verbally. We are all human.
shanghai is different than all of china.. historically very open to outside world stemming for trade.. but obv expanding to culture. I wouldn't be quick to extrapolate to all of china.
my roommates gay, booth living in shanghai for four months and i think hes had less problems here than the gay-capital of europe where we're from (The Netherlands)
Collectivist societies tend to value family and place low emphasis on social movements. Individualistic societies tend to be the oposite. And so Europe is between East Asia and America both geographically and politically.
In my personal experience, all generations are getting awareness and acceptance towards lgbtq issues. Now there is grounds to cover in order to grand rights to real couples and families.
I am a Transgendered Pan man who has a transphobic and homophobic mother and her mother, but I am a huge fan of lots stuff Chinese and it's been a dream of mine to visit there someday and I'm already 19 yet still have to live with my family, tho my mom can be very controlling of what I do and I wanna escape her so I don't have to hear anymore deadname or her calling me by the wrong pronouns, she told me that there would be no lgbtq people in China cause of the evil ruler of China not allowing it and only wants people to be their birth genders to give more babies, which I did not want to believe her cause I know she's just stuck in the past thinking that God hates lgbtq people, I original wanted to move to Canada but I can't help but wonder if China would be a better place for me, I know my mother won't like that but I wanna finally have a life where I can feel like I'm being fully me instead of someone I'm not
In china you can do what ever you want as long as that your personal things that not disturb public but promote LGBTQ i think i will be never allow by the gov because that some kind of think that talk about sexuality and explicit.
不太理解那个说大学是直男因为被女友伤到而成为gay，这个说法我觉得我打问号而且觉得对这个群体不太公平。个人看法而已。很多人是在人生接段不同时候认识到真实的自己而已，不是因为什么就可以变。试问：假如反过来，gay可以变成直男吗？为啥不变呢？变了后生活和接受度不是更容易吗？如果可以这么容易转换，为什么gay还不转换而去面对家里和社会各种的不理解和挑战呢？简单一句："完全我个人观点，因为born this way, 只是自我认知的时间不同而已，有早有晚(当然也包括很多很多有一辈子也不会有不同自我认知的)，对那些有自我认知改变发生的人而言，不能鲁莽或片面的说因为自我认知发生改变时刚好有了一件事的发生所以就认为那件事是改变自己成为lgbtiq的，这样说在我看来站不住脚"。
Yeah,it’s true.China is a large country and Shanghai can’t represent the whole China.But through your emotion by this end of video,I think you may might believe how comprehensive between z generation people who live in the advanced cities in China.I would say especially in Chengdu hahaha
It's funny, I would've assumed the first two girls were Japanese by the way they're dressed. When it comes to Asia, I associate the influence of black/hip hop culture with Japan and maybe Thailand more than any other country.
I've lived in Japan for 3 years and I don't think I've ever seen anyone dressed even similarly or with similar hair. Not saying people like that don't exist, but I would guess it would be incredibly rare and flashy here, maybe only ok in specific night districts within a specific subculture
I think Chinese street style is way ahead of Japan's, the only problem is it's not promoted as much as Korea or Japan due to their use of different platforms, but once you will go to any 1st tier city in China you will be shocked of how stylish people are
Why are we getting opinions from people that are young and probably more expose to this lgbtq thing. When are we not interviewing 50-60 year old grandpas that are drinking beer on the street
I have a friend (I'm Mexican) who is the boyfriend of a Chinese guy. They recently went to Shanghai together to meet his boyfriend's family. I think in some gay/lesbian bars or maybe during Pride.
@@vanessacarses3942 I see I'm mexican too, I'm the L of LGBT and I was wondering if foreigners had opportunities to date in China I hope so, tried searching dating apps but there were no asians from this community thanks for clarifying my question ^^
Majority of those people are clearly Han Chinese. You never been to China aren't you? Most Chinese who are homophobic isn't even Han Chinese, many of those are manchurian/mongolian. CCP is the example, you can clearly see Xi Jinping looks more mongolian than majority of Han Chinese
@@physicslawss east asians don't have naturally curly hair nor hairstyles like this. It's obvious they were influenced by hiphop and african/afriacan american culture
@@mariaclaren-6094 Unrepresentative. It means that the views expressed are those of a small minority and do not represent, or reflect, the opinions of the majority of the Chinese people.
Omg. Pikirkan keturunanmu woiii. Saya tahu kalian masih muda. Tapi saya yakin waktu kalian sudah tua akan sangat menyesal apa yang pernah kalian lewatin saat muda. Bangunlah
but you could also argue that when they’re older and have children, they will be regretful because they were not able to do the things they actually wanted to do when they were young. everyone just has their own thing they want to do and this shouldn’t be decided by others
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As an ordinary Chinese, as long as it does not affect my life, most people can accept it, at least on the surface, they will not make any discriminatory behavior. But once this kind of thing happens to the family, the elders are generally quite repulsive, especially will not accept same-sex marriage.
‘the elders’ are not gonna be here forever. Let’s just hope the next generation of elders can accept differences better in society.
u can apply that to almost everything too, international marriage, unconventional career paths, skin color, etc etc
It makes sense. Fine as long as they are not ”involved”.
just like most grandparents around the world
So they basically like everybody else. Most elderly people will not accept it.
Can we take a sec to appreciate how stylish those people are? Wow
these poeple are so fresh
I love chinese people
Around 20 years ago, in south China, small city, we had some lesbian and gay friends. People around were not talking directly about that but nobody showed disaprovals. Chinese people are quite tolerant for many things.
Aaah i see but the Chinese government isn't i suppose?
@@jinhub2175no. The view of Chinese government is: no discrimination, but also no privilege. Or simply doesn't talk about it.
The government is mostly just indifferent. There’s not much in terms of gay rights but there’s also no discriminatory policies against LGBTQ
@@jinhub2175Chinese state media criticized discrimination against gay people but gay marriage is not approved by them and gay tv shows are forbidden. So it’s more like neither bullying nor encouraging.
Chinese people usually mind their own business and let other people mind their own businesses.❤
Also, they don’t have overbearing religions dictating how they think about lgbt people.
Soo they basically accept evil perversions abominations not saying anything. Sad they’re becoming like bad influence around them
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH What's the problem?
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH true that why they show lot immoral like when people fall on streets no one even go to help the person everyone mind their own bussiness to point no one show empathy or kindness
@@sakurakou2009 that’s common in large American cities.
i like the ppl you interviewed - very diverse :)
thank you! :)
I think it's fairer to ask Non-LGBTQ people about their opinions rather then members of the community.
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on the other hand, it is very bad to talk about any community without its participation. Imagine Americans discussing racism where all the discussants are perfectly blond-haired, blue-eyed Anglo-Saxons. That would be weird. Likewise, LGBTQ people - regardless of whether you like them or don't like them, accept them or not, are part of every society, they should be visible, especially in matters that directly concern them.
@@robertwisniewski2029 I'm part of the community but I'll rather have truthful answers rather than mostly positive vibes from the community.
@@moonieek ok, I understand your point of view. Most of the people in this interview are LGBTQ or supportive, and I agree with you that this is a biased cross-section of the community. The problem is that street interviews are generally biased, they are not statistical research where you set the research conditions, sample size, etc. . You could probably even consider it an attempt at whitewashing, even if someone from the community was used to do it. However, I wouldn't go that far and I don't think that's the point. Street interviews are simply a source of opinions, they will never be a source of facts
i love that you’re so respectful and engaging when you talk to them! super nice to see!! also all these people u interviewed are so cool. like a prince for shanghai disney 🙀🙀
I've heard that Shanghai is more tolerant than Tokyo and this video would tend to support this. Frankly, the opinions expressed sound very sophisticated and genuine. I think tolerance of minorities of all sorts is a good barometer of a society's health. Just look at Russia as a counterexample.
Much more diverse and less judgmental
I'd love to hear other answers from smaller Chinese cities.
The globalist media and their crap and their liberal ideas to destroy countries with that type of crap, first the globalists promote this stupid ideas and destroy cultures , being yourself God made woman and man period dont try to force yourr masters ideas on us , these people the elite in the world promote satanism and degrade your , dont promote globalist cabal satanic ideas
@@DutchComedian The situation is similar to that in Shanghai. The younger generation supports it, but the support rate may not be as high as in Shanghai. The older generation across China is almost all opposed to it.
@@DutchComedian One thing that needs to be added is that in China，men’s support for the LGBTQ community is much lower than that of women.
Thanks for showing real people talking about it.
I love it, way more accept than US, very surprised. Thank you for this video. I'm from Brazil, a big hug for you
Actually, 99% of Chinese do not accept LGBTQ, it's a biased sampling interview.
I am very excited to se how progressive the chinese were and how beautiful in general they were . Individualistic. Beautiful. Hello from Galveston
Many people believe any sexuality that differs from heterosexual "norms" is considered the result of trauma or confusion as a child. Though I (a female) experienced SA when I was around 6, it was not the result of me being bisexual. When I was in preschool (about 3 years old), the very first day of attending, we were assigned seats and I was placed next to a girl the same age as me with bright green eyes and freckles. I was ABSOLUTELY infatuated with her (yes, it was a crush). We didn't even communicate because we were so young. I'm pretty sure we never even talked once, we'd just look at each other and smile and that was literally it, but my heart would pound and I wanted to show her "affection" that I literally had no clue was even about. I didn't know what gay or straight was, I just knew I liked her more than I liked anyone else, even more than those who actually talked to me or were really nice to me. You could try to say it was "innocent admiration", but I know what that would have felt like, so no it was not. Fastforward 21 years, I'm with a beautiful Texan woman who loves me unconditionally and I love her the same. I never changed, I was never influenced, nor was my ultimate decision to marry a woman the result of trauma. I was actually BORN this way.
Yeahh, when I came out to my mother as trans like the next day she said something along the lines of “was there army sexual trauma you didn’t tell me about?”
No… and it’s pretty upsetting to hear that she assumed my identity was the result of being damaged somehow
Hope you and homegirl are going strong
Same, I was in kindergarten when I 'dated' a girl - had no idea about anything related to sexuality until like middle school 👀
That’s actually a psychological research theory that scientists made regarding to understanding homosexuality that most ignorant homophobic people used to tell you somethings wrong with you ! Don’t buy it since it’s just a research theory not facts ! plus there’s more scientifically research that supports homosexuality as natural as it’s seen in nature !
The ultimate goal of sexuality by “higher design” is reproduction.
Continuation of human race. Sexuality other than that purpose is selfish is abomination.
You are confused. I can change that.
wow, love your content. puts mainstream media coverage of china to shame.
uh as a Chinese who is not a citizen of Shanghai I would say this video is only a representation of inclusiveness of Shanghai(though I suspect this too. It is possible that gender noncomforming people are more likely to be chosen as interviewees) I don't think any of the other cities in China have the similar level of inclusiveness as Shanghai owing to the fact that Shanghai is the center of multiculturalism and globalization due to historical reasons. All other cities have conditions that is MUCH WORSER for queers, including Beijing. I lived in a relatively inclusive city compared to other parts of the country and I still cannot believe that the video was a interview target at all citizens(most of the intervewees are queer and/or with a noncomforming dressing). Our country is working hard to erase us. (ex. speech control and arbitrary law enforcement, including arresting those who post iNaPpRoPrIaTe contents online and participating in march that fails to get started before the police came)
Believe it or not, China's media coverage is more biased due to strict censorship.
@@hesperus4279
As someone who goes to middle school in Shanghai, sometimes when two boys are very close to each other in our class, we ship them and call them gay.(just for fun
Lol
I spent about a week in Shanghai earlier this year and I actually saw two young fashionable girls kiss each other at a train station whilst I was there which I was really surprised about as a gay man, because it was the first time on my Asian trip I saw gay PDA. I can definitely tell that at least of lot of the younger people of the bigger cities in China are a lot more LGBT friendly than people expect especially Shanghai and Chengdu.
Young Chinese people seem to be, not only very beautiful, they are so articulate & impressive!: there seems to be a level of frankness, depth & intelligence that I don’t often find in the Americas…
Hi from 🇨🇦. Was quite surprised by their openness. Good for them.
@@frightfactoryYT Most Chinese wouldn't give a fxxk. Chinese is all about minding your own business. The only one who would care is their own parent.
Good?? Are you crazy??
That's what China has been in history - what China has always been like. Homosexuality is known, accepted, but not celebrated either if you look into Chinese history. It's just a normal thing that exist in human society. And China doesn't have that Christian religious element which also is the major reason in America that make things hard. China is like: Why make a big fuss about it in either direction? But things may be changing now with all the western influence.
@@frightfactoryYT accept the fact ignorant
Love how Canadian this comment is 😂
我是gay，周围的同学，朋友，都挺和善，对我挺支持，不过父母是有点难接受
Gay From 🇵🇭 and I want to live in China💖
感覺隨著時間越來越長理解的人也會慢慢變多吧。
我是中立派，來自中國一個小城市，對 LGBTQ+ 不支持也不反對。我覺得雙方都互相尊重吧，不要讓反感 LGBTQ+ 的人來支持你，也不要強行「矯正」LGBTQ+ 團體。
我初中時就有一個同學看起來像 Gay，但我從不在乎，一直跟他玩。別在乎別人有點異於常人的地方，因爲每個人可能都會有一方面和別人不同。到現在我都不知道他是不是 Gay，因爲我覺得沒有必要知道。
中国人对待这类议题就是，噢，好吧，我知道了。但是反感有人非要拿出来大说特说，特别讨论，还非要弄点什么活动到你面前求存在感那种。因为你这样反而打扰到他了。
@@monacolita9999 没毛病
“ Being yourself is very awesome”
great content, and it’s so impressive that you’re so good at languages, my goal!
That's so cool, I learned English through your videos.
I was born and raised in Shanghai. It is a city that is very diverse and accepting. I love it. I had a lot of friends who are LGBTQ, they are generally respectful people. Don’t impose their view on others.
China has 70 million gay men, not counting lesbians, bi people, or trans people. That's more people than entire countries, and yet there are no civil or economic protections for LGBT people, let alone gay marriage. I really admire China for a lot of reasons, but this area is one of my biggest disappointments with China. I'm hoping that I live to see the day where LGBT Chinese people get full civil and economic protections, and the culture shifts in a positive direction for LGBT Chinese people.
That NB legend is so insightful
infact no need to compare everything with foreigner and don't need to blindly admire them. you have your way and freedom. not like what western world used to blame China is oppression.
Thank you! This was interesting.
The two languages subtitles is awesome!
中国官方对LGBTQ的态度是不管，不支持也不反对，同性恋合法，变性手术合法且可以更改身份证性别。不过近年保守主义兴起民间反对声音也比较大，但绝大多数中国LGBTQ群体的压力不来自社会而来自家庭
Truth!
love this video
Attitudes here don't seem all that different from here in the United States except people in China seem to be more willing to be candid and not sugar coat things completely.
现在上海的年轻人打扮已经那么时髦了，我离开7年了，感觉变化了不少。
China is way more progressive than the U.S lol , there are places in the U.S where LGBTQ can not walk or pass by. Is like Curfew towns but for LGBTQ + People. The most progressive people I have found about LGBTQ+ were people living in China. Outside of China I can't think of another country as Progresive as China except some Nordic countries but even those Nordic countries aren't that super progressive either and have very bad rights for Indigenous people. Like Sami , Elfadalians, Jämts.
sure...This is not representative of the majority of Chinese people .China is probably the most conservative and traditional country, the lgbtq world has nothing in common with the values of Lao Tse and Confucius
实际上中国的同性恋历史比你想的更悠久 在官方史书上都记载着很多关于皇帝或者名人是同性恋的故事，你可以搜一下“龙阳之好”这个故事 这个故事就是发生在孔子的年代，顺便说一句 我不知道任何有关孔子或者老子对同性恋的否定 当然也没有任何肯定的记载
Great video
In my college class, there were four gays, and no one talked about it, all blessings.
My take is that in Asia LGBTQ is not accepted or disapproved one way or the other. Where as in the predominantly christian countries, the Christian hardliners/fundamentalists see LGBTQ as a threat to the their society and religion.
There are also a lot of people in Asia that very strongly disapprove of this type of behavior. I knew a gay Chinese guy and he was even afraid to talk about it in public to me when we sat on the train. Compared to my home country in Australia I was confused why he was afraid of any mention of it. I only know 2 gays and neither of them would dare come out to their parents.
Sounds like China is more tolerant than Russia at this time. Shanghai is a pretty cosmopolitan city. I wounded what tolerance is like in other areas.
Are you Russian?
There is state-sponsored homophobia, but in russian big cities people have tolerant attitude towards LGBTQ.
Everywhere is more tolerant than Russia regarding LGBTQ
way more tolerant. Being gay here is not big deal. I'm not LGBT but so many of my friends are and they say China is more tolerant than South Korea as well. Honestly the only Asian countries that are more tolerant than China is probably Japan and Thailand.
@@chenyuxuan1204 Japan?
Seeing that after reading a book about the difficult way of surviving for gay in china in mid 1990s (北京同志研究社) make me really happy because I see how life is easier for them now
I can feel like china is like people don't care about it, china is better than Japan and South Korea It's hard to find someone openly talking about it
Hi from southern California I believe we should except all people for who they are as long as your good people. In CA it's legal to marry same sex.
people are much more accepting these days what lovely interviews
I think the difference is Americans LGBT are bad due to the crazy ones or those who are just looking for attention while the good ones are being painted the same color as the bad ones. In China, most are normal and they do not force you to just accept them, because they know it takes time to accept something new and while waiting, they will show you respect and love so you could understand they are still people that can be accepted in our society. work to gain your recognition and do not enforce your belief onto others.
There is already too much division and hatred in this world. I'm a straight traditional Chinese man born and raised in the UK. I don't care if your black or white, Christian or Muslim, tall or short, thin or fat, Chinese or Japanese, British or German, straight or gay. Just respect me and I will respect you. As simple as that. We can all be friends, you do you and I'll do me. I have no right to tell you what way to live your life. Do not bring harm to others physically or verbally. We are all human.
totally agree with you
i respect it but i wont accept it so no i can tell you the globalist cabal has influenced you a lot
"In China, most are normal and they do not force you to just accept them" that is called living in fear of bigots
shanghai is different than all of china.. historically very open to outside world stemming for trade.. but obv expanding to culture. I wouldn't be quick to extrapolate to all of china.
my roommates gay, booth living in shanghai for four months and i think hes had less problems here than the gay-capital of europe where we're from (The Netherlands)
As an Indian my respect for chinese risen very high..
I wish to visit there someday
Collectivist societies tend to value family and place low emphasis on social movements. Individualistic societies tend to be the oposite. And so Europe is between East Asia and America both geographically and politically.
中国几千年来就有“龙阳之好”的说法。。。从中央政府到民间。。。都是“不推崇。不反对”的意识。。。也就是说。。你是什么喜好。是你个人的事情。。但。不要去影响别人。
别人如何看待你。那是你这个人的问题。而不是群体的问题。。你是个好人。对社会 对国家有贡献。既认同你。。而不是看你的性取向。哪怕你毫无贡献。只要你不影响其他人的正常生活。你都不会受到任何不公对待。
中国对LGBT这种事情 几千年来都是非常包容的。。从来没有在社会上去讨论。因为完全没有必要。这只是个人的事。
但是。也需要强调一点。。。如果你是同性恋。用同性恋的身份。去骚扰其他人。。比如去骚扰非同性恋人士。。那么你就必然受谴责。
总而言之一句话。。“不要试图骚扰其他人。给其他人制造麻烦。那么你与其他人没有什么不同。平等的。”
你说的有点意思。确实有这个情况，古代就很多同性恋。但中华传统文化还是很抗拒的。
@@jasonmai4771
我想。正常人都会抗拒LGBT。这不是歧视。而是正常生理反应。。
我被男同骚扰过。我很清楚这种感觉。
当然。我知道男同里也有不会骚扰其他人的。。这就是我上面留言中所说的。。这不是群体问题。而是个人问题。不要做出让人反感厌恶的事情才是对其他人的尊重。
同意。現在，法律權益上應有白紙黑字的「包容」和「公平對待」的實際條款
有些人会刻意将风向导向其他不相关的事情，说我们文化落后啊之类的，在西方甚至会往政治方面去想，完全没必要，在我看来这些东西确实不怎么合理，只要不涉及到我就行了，但我还是想解释一下，这些东西没什么特殊的，就像小时候喜欢什么，幻想什么东西，直到长大后依然没有做出改变罢了，大多数更像是一种社会底层的产物。
说白了就是一种我想怎么样就怎么样的态度，满足心中的幻想，这些人拥有一种特殊与他人的优越感，比如说我初中就这样了，觉得很骄傲，其实大多数人在小孩子时都有过这些乱七八糟的想法，但人是要长大的。如果能为社会做贡献，谁都会尊重你，而不是拿着标签做挡箭牌并要求特权。最后补充一下，有些杀人犯为什么永远是杀人犯？不是因为他们特殊，而是没有能力做出改变。🤣
中国是一个领土庞大，人口众多，各地资源禀赋不同，分配不均衡的国家，不久之前才实现了全面小康，脱贫摘帽。在上海这样的经济发展更加充分的地区，获得的采访结果偏向包容开放是可以洞见的。
在不损害他人利益的前提下，这是个人自由的范畴。
但一些LGBTQ群体，以一种继发性获益的姿态，想得取特殊的优待，这是对更多人自由权利之践踏。
我自己是成都人，环境对LGBTQ还算是比较可以接受的，但也有一些人，他们可能对此持鄙夷态度。LGBTQ话题对还在一些还在贫困线上徘徊的人，还是有些超前了。你很难要求刚吃饱饭的人，对这些议题有偏好的看法，这可能被认为是‘作’。
但仍然诚挚的祝愿我们国家越来越好。人民富足了，才会有更高的精神追求。这是一个自然且循序渐进的过程。
In my personal experience, all generations are getting awareness and acceptance towards lgbtq issues. Now there is grounds to cover in order to grand rights to real couples and families.
从bilibili过来的🙋🏻♀️可以就这个话题发表一下自己的看法吗w我觉得人们对于LGBTQ的认识是一种基于物质基础以上很上面的思想层面认知的产物。白话讲，就是在人们不愁吃穿、不愁生存之后才要考虑的事情。但是中国的国情下，很多人才达到“温饱”这一阶段，对于思想层面的认识还远远没有达到那个高度。可能在一些一线城市或者对外交流多城市会受这方面影响比较大，人们的接受度也会比较高，但大部分也只是空中楼阁程度的认识。而且我觉得对于这方面的认识不能拔苗助长，毕竟我们现代化发展的起步是落后的。虽然国家层面在经济和科技追上来了一些，但是人文思想建设层面まだまだです。➡️我个人的话，虽然我暂时可能不属于这类人群。但是我觉得不管是LGBTQ还是男人女人黑人白人，只要我们对身边遇到的每个人都保持平等尊重这个世界就会变得更加美好。🕊️
才疏学浅还请多多指教🙇🏻♀️
同性恋不是现代才有的。你看看楼下那位说的大学直男变同性恋的说法。
就是没事找事
自己不是lgbtq不太體會得到性取向，性別認知的根源性。大多數性取向和學吃飯學走路是同一階段。不是說吃飽喝足之後的事，而是同等的需要。
那位為女友變彎的直男，不還是過兩年變回去了。人對自我的探索，最終會回到本性上
The person in grey shirt was lovely
This is make me so happy
help lgbtq in Indonesia . we still get discrimination and violence .
Susah kalau indo mah
Move to China
这个主题应该去成都，90年代我从小学开始周围就有很多，并且也有父母也接受的。
@@sosoable 我認識不少
your Chinese is so good
热知识:性取向根本不是自己选择的，别人喜欢同性的感觉和你喜欢异性的感觉是一样的，无法选择和判断，就是本能驱动。
I am a Transgendered Pan man who has a transphobic and homophobic mother and her mother, but I am a huge fan of lots stuff Chinese and it's been a dream of mine to visit there someday and I'm already 19 yet still have to live with my family, tho my mom can be very controlling of what I do and I wanna escape her so I don't have to hear anymore deadname or her calling me by the wrong pronouns, she told me that there would be no lgbtq people in China cause of the evil ruler of China not allowing it and only wants people to be their birth genders to give more babies, which I did not want to believe her cause I know she's just stuck in the past thinking that God hates lgbtq people, I original wanted to move to Canada but I can't help but wonder if China would be a better place for me, I know my mother won't like that but I wanna finally have a life where I can feel like I'm being fully me instead of someone I'm not
Hi did you go for Chinese class? Do you have a video of how you learnt the language?
In china you can do what ever you want as long as that your personal things that not disturb public
but promote LGBTQ i think i will be never allow by the gov because that some kind of think that talk about sexuality and explicit.
Friend in the grey shirt was serving a lewk. I know they put on when they step out
2:58 She looks like Neo. Based.
hi kaho, will you do interview in other cities or do vlogger things?
This should debunk the msm narrative 😂
Thanks God for Shanghai.
不太理解那个说大学是直男因为被女友伤到而成为gay，这个说法我觉得我打问号而且觉得对这个群体不太公平。个人看法而已。很多人是在人生接段不同时候认识到真实的自己而已，不是因为什么就可以变。试问：假如反过来，gay可以变成直男吗？为啥不变呢？变了后生活和接受度不是更容易吗？如果可以这么容易转换，为什么gay还不转换而去面对家里和社会各种的不理解和挑战呢？简单一句："完全我个人观点，因为born this way, 只是自我认知的时间不同而已，有早有晚(当然也包括很多很多有一辈子也不会有不同自我认知的)，对那些有自我认知改变发生的人而言，不能鲁莽或片面的说因为自我认知发生改变时刚好有了一件事的发生所以就认为那件事是改变自己成为lgbtiq的，这样说在我看来站不住脚"。
这个点有意思，所以要看是心理认知还是生理认知。我觉得这个世界百分之九十应该都是心理认知同性恋，也就是说可以掰回来，在同性恋异性恋之间转换。
可能他是双吧 偏gay多一点而已
什麼取向的人都有開竅晚的
看的时候一脸问号，不是双吗难道？
You're only showing people who accepted lgbt not showing the opposition.
3:20 You look at the subtitles in Chinese and see the word "Gay" with the characters. Don't they have a word for that in Chinese?
No. They just say "same sex attracted," which is easier than you think, since it's still only 3 syllables. But "gay" is 1 syllable, so ya know
Yeah,it’s true.China is a large country and Shanghai can’t represent the whole China.But through your emotion by this end of video,I think you may might believe how comprehensive between z generation people who live in the advanced cities in China.I would say especially in Chengdu hahaha
lgbt di china ternyata sangat diterima ya.
It's funny, I would've assumed the first two girls were Japanese by the way they're dressed. When it comes to Asia, I associate the influence of black/hip hop culture with Japan and maybe Thailand more than any other country.
I've lived in Japan for 3 years and I don't think I've ever seen anyone dressed even similarly or with similar hair. Not saying people like that don't exist, but I would guess it would be incredibly rare and flashy here, maybe only ok in specific night districts within a specific subculture
I think Chinese street style is way ahead of Japan's, the only problem is it's not promoted as much as Korea or Japan due to their use of different platforms, but once you will go to any 1st tier city in China you will be shocked of how stylish people are
The dancer guy was hot! 😊
Kaho l am looking for a very humble lady to start friendship with.
I will really appreciate it.
Why are we getting opinions from people that are young and probably more expose to this lgbtq thing. When are we not interviewing 50-60 year old grandpas that are drinking beer on the street
I think your in the wrong city ma’am, I’m pretty sure that’s just Chinatown in America
那么我在中国哪里可以找到同性伴侣，或者这是一个愚蠢的问题吗？😐 我不是来自中国.
I have a friend (I'm Mexican) who is the boyfriend of a Chinese guy. They recently went to Shanghai together to meet his boyfriend's family. I think in some gay/lesbian bars or maybe during Pride.
@@vanessacarses3942 I see I'm mexican too, I'm the L of LGBT and I was wondering if foreigners had opportunities to date in China I hope so, tried searching dating apps but there were no asians from this community thanks for clarifying my question ^^
There are two popular gay app in china: blued and aloha
grindr or gaybar
@@Togya_Ma interesting
Shout out to Asian SZA
I hope to find a Chinese girlfriend soon 🥰🥰🥰
你们圈子自己搞就行别妨碍到我没人管你。
顺直丢脸丢到国际上了
A lot of these people don't look like Han Chinese
Majority of those people are clearly Han Chinese. You never been to China aren't you? Most Chinese who are homophobic isn't even Han Chinese, many of those are manchurian/mongolian. CCP is the example, you can clearly see Xi Jinping looks more mongolian than majority of Han Chinese
@@kopitah7620 Simple answer many of these homophobic Chinese people are Turks not Han Chinese.
@@kopitah7620 We‘re still under Turkish rule anyways so nothing’s changed since the Qing Dynasty except for the Sun Yat Sen to Hu Jintao era.
Song
Dam Japanese lady is beautiful ❤
Lgbtq as pompeii country
Que porque su novia lo lastimó se hizo gay 😂😂😂😂😂 ..por favor 😂😂😂 ese no es gay ...está mal de la cabeza ... .
Kkkk sim a galhada é enorme.
Well this is certainly hopeful.
Sins
try to do the same street interview in other cities like Beijing or Xi'an, you will get totally different answers.
Motywacja do przyjazdu tam. Normalnosc.
00:45 never thought i'd see cultural appropriation in china lol
Wdym
@@physicslawss east asians don't have naturally curly hair nor hairstyles like this. It's obvious they were influenced by hiphop and african/afriacan american culture
@@painexotic3757 she could be mixed
@@physicslawss im talking about both of them. And it's unlikely. Both of them look full asian. I'm black and dont see any visible black features lol
@@painexotic3757 I disagree, I think they look mixed
That's the most unrepresentative video ever.
Have you lived in China?
@@davfb8622 Yes.
@@mariaclaren-6094 Unrepresentative. It means that the views expressed are those of a small minority and do not represent, or reflect, the opinions of the majority of the Chinese people.
@@tomarmstrong5244 from 18 years of personal life in a relatively big city, this feels correct enough
Here in China most of us are orthodox and we view LGTBQ as degenerate
謝謝你特地學日文接訪在中國的日本人民 💚💪
Omg. Pikirkan keturunanmu woiii. Saya tahu kalian masih muda. Tapi saya yakin waktu kalian sudah tua akan sangat menyesal apa yang pernah kalian lewatin saat muda. Bangunlah
but you could also argue that when they’re older and have children, they will be regretful because they were not able to do the things they actually wanted to do when they were young. everyone just has their own thing they want to do and this shouldn’t be decided by others
How do you know?
Lah, yang mau punya anak dan keturunan ya dia, kenapa lu yang repot? Bakal menyesal, apa yang mesti disesali?
Those are the set of people who came back from the USA
Lgbtq as pompeii country @stupido#
我只是好奇,视频想体现"我是"所以所有的人都应该是这个逻辑???? 🐶🐶🐶🐶保命
Are you against lgbt people?
@@xoho3462 My perspective, none of your business.
@@Paulzhu my perspective, you voice your opinion on the comment section and people will comment.
@@xoho3462 It's find then, like II leave comment to this video and your comment too.
@@Paulzhu sure dear
I'm dead, since when did Chinese people become gay? The world's gone mad
They didnt, this is CCP propaganda. Its still an awful homophobic country
You have gone mad, did you seriously think gay people only exist in certain places?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
May Allah guide them...
不在乎，那是自己的事吧。 但是正反方都不能骑脸输出， 去拉着你宣传
比如 我去台北有基督徒给我发传单，说那个地方是用来xxxx，不是用来xxx。 我擦，我真是无语了😓