@@KylieSparticus it's the Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD. Relatively new lens, can be had for pretty affordable used, and the photo quality punches well above it's price.
Hey ! I have a question, I want to change my 70-300 for a 70-200 f4. Did you use the tamron for animals and sport ? I don’t know if the price difference between the tamron 70-210 and the Nikon 70-200 f4 is worth or not
Eliminating price considerations, the lenses scored: 61, 39, 64, 63, 69. Eliminate weight as well and it goes to 51, 37, 64, 60, 65. Leaving the Sigma as the winner amongst DSLR lenses in "performance" categories. Though the Nikon and Sigma scored well in different categories so it really depends upon what is important to you. Thanks for the detailed comparison, very useful.
"I know when I'm smiling nice bc i make you smile" Very cute. Also "If you look at the difference between these two lenses the first thing you notice is her smile bc that what portraits are about" So sweet. Nice comparison of lenses too!
@@lior2538 pretty well the same way as it was working with Nikon D500 and I see no difference in autofocus and also its muuuch better than Sigma with FTZ (I have sigma art 35mm 1.4). there are an firmware update for compatibility with FTZ. When I bought the lens it alreay had that update, if not you can update it with tamron dock.
Hey ! I have a question, I want to change my 70-300 for a 70-200 f4. Did you use the tamron for animals and sport ? I don’t know if the price difference between the tamron 70-210 and the Nikon 70-200 f4 is worth or not
@@Pokzy I use it for street photography not for sports. Cant tell how it will perform for sports. But its much much cheaper than the nikom 70 200 F4. It costs 500 euros new and 400 second hand
Thank you doing such a thorough analysis. I'm mostly shooting Canon DSLR exclusively. But your reviews have helped with several of my past lens purchases (and very happy with those choices). Keep it up.
I can't tell you how much I come to rely upon you both for your reviews. I was looking for 70-200mm f2.8 but the Nikon brands were so much more expensive. I saw the Sigma at a more budget-friendly price, but I wanted to know how it compared. Your controlled, user-friendly, review gave me a better depth of knowledge to make my decision. I'm going with the Sigma because it handled well and was mid-priced.
Thanks - this has made me glad I plumped for the Tamron 70-210 f4. Bought for (mainly) equestrian pics, I decided f2.8 was unnecessary as I mainly shoot outdoors in daylight and a shallow DoF was not really necessary. Paired with a Canon 70D and 6D I've been really pleased with the results. Great comparison review.
Love this! I just bought the Sigma and so far love it! The eye af works great with the Canon R6 and R mount. Not sure why the Nikon had issues for you all.
I forgot to add thank you Tony and Chelsea for your hard work and putting this video out there is thoroughly entertaining informative and very much appreciated.
If you had updated the Sigma via its docking station you would have found it worked, you could also have set the lens to adjust focus correctly, it works fine on F Nikon bodies, its razor-sharp fast focusing not flaky, and produces good contrary images with great bokeh, many a professional written magazine has rated it the same as the F mount Nikon lens so the price makes it a better buy. The price of the USB dock is a pittance and it allows you to change the lens setting to what suits you, and use those four buttons on the lens body in the same way as back button focus buttons, very handy. I think you have done the Sigma lens an injustice, it is extremely good and the price makes it the best lens there other than the Z lens which costs an arm and a leg.
Credible review. Most youtubers nowadays presenting how good canon and sony is, some of them just review nikons bad gears but never appreciate their good ones. You guys showed how good nikkor z 24-70 f2.8 s is compared with sony and canon.
I bought (for $500) the Tamron 70-210 F4 earlier this year so I can have inexpensive 200mm lens for shooing mostly nature. Im really happy with how it performs, and its pretty light. I took it to vacation last month and then I learned how well it performs for portraits. This video just confirms that I bought right lens :) I would love to have Nikon 70-200 f2.8 but maan the price is just too much for me right now. Maybe in time.
Dustin Abbott and Matt Granger did detailed reviews of the Tamron 70-200 g2 on their channels and they did great. They really liked the lens. Sharpness is excellent and autofocus speed is excellent. 70-200 g2 was not much inferior to the 2nd version from Canon 70-200 Matt Granger compared 70-210 and 70-200 g2. Autofocus on the 70-200 g2 was faster and it was sharper. Are they lying or are you? who to believe?
I often think about this as well. Although I will say I've owned the g2 for 6 years (and have had issues with it) and I have spent hours if not days researching people's thoughts and comments. It seems that many have success, many do not, and many have sent their lenses back multiple times before they got a acceptable one. So maybe that's why the difference in reviews results?
There is another used lens alternative in the 80-200mm f2.8D Nikkor. It is heavy, sharp, and beautifully made. It is also cheap at the moment. Since the AF is screw drive it would be manual focus on a Z body. I do not recommend manual focusing as it is difficult with such a narrow DOF.
I bought the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VR I Gray version from someone in super good condition and still inside the box. I'm happy and thank you for your amazing lens review and the stats you show at the end of the video. Got it for $750
I've bought quite a bit of equipment from KEH and they are my "Go-To" camera store also. I've got the Nikon AF-S VR 70-200 f2.8G lens cause it was in my price range. I've teested it in my neighborhood, but not in the field yet. My lens selection is 11 Nikon's and one Sigma. I've been interested in Nikon camera equipment since I was stationed in Hawaii in 1970, but couldn't afford one until 2015. Anyway, thanks for taking time to test out the equipment.
Interesting review but I appreciate the effort. However, to say "Tamron 70-200 isn't one you'd recommend" and it's disappointing?? That's very arguable and lots of professional photographers would disagree with that statement.
Tony overblows focus breathing out of proportions. For real life shooting (for people with legs, Tony not included) the effects are negligible if even noticeable. I had Tamron 70-200 G2 and Nikon 70-200 FL and have not seen much difference optically. Ended up keeping the Tamron G2 and trading the FL for Nikon 105 1.4 (plus cash). So people should not be afraid of looking into Tamron G2, it has a number of unique advantages.
I had the 70-200 Tamron G2 on my D850 instead of the FL ..What a great lens . However nothing beats my current Z version Nikon on my Z7 ..Next level asnd widely acknowledged as the Best 70-200 f2.8 ever made all brands included
Pointing out that a product does not deliver what you paid for is never blowing it out of proportion, it’s just stating a fact that is relevant to prospective buyers. There are many real world scenarios where taking even one step forward is physically impossible. If I pay for 200mm, I want 200mm.
I had a Tamron G2 on a D850, but focus/chromatic/all round results not good. Swapped it for another - not much better, also sent back. Then got the Nikon F mount - different league. Shame as the Tamron felt well built and obviously good value.
@@lenzyruffin agreed but Tony's test seems subjective as Ricci did exactly the same test with a camera body and shows almost no breathing so I guess you have to do your own research unless these reviewers can come up with an agreed upon test and terminology
I just really love your content. Even if I I cannot afford the products that you showcase I just love watching your videos and the information you provide. Keep posting these type of videos and do keep up the great work.
Thanks again for a very useful video but a little constructive criticism from an 8 year subscriber and customer, I've noticed the production quality and frequency of uploads has been decreasing lately, you're my favourite photographery channel and I have notifications turned on for your videos so this is coming from a place of love, no hate
Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 Sport works fine with the mc11 on Sony. Eye AF was amazing. Only thing I didn't like was the weight. I did eventually trade it in with some other stuff for the 135 1.8 GM
Having arrived very late to the D850, this video has been incredibly helpful sorting out my 70-200 options. Thanks for the excellent work that continues to be of value to F6, F5, and F100 legacy photographers. Brand new D850s are still an incredible value, provided they are attached to the right glass. Steve Briggs
Just want to thank you guys for all you do! I am in the market for a new 70-200 and this video is a great help in my decision. Thank you again! Be well.
Thanks for another great video, Tony & Chelsea. You do take testing to a whole new level. I got the Nikon F mount G model, bought two weeks ago secondhand for about 1000 $, and I am very pleased with the performance.
Very interesting and I too appreciate the effort that went into this testing. Some of these criteria should not have equal weight, although what may be more important could vary amongst different photographers. They pretty much glossed over the sharpness, especially in the corners, which could make more difference to a lot of people than was expressed in this presentation. Getting that right can be costly.
You could make a simple little excel, use the scores from the review, multiply with a weight factor yourself and see for yourself what the outcome would be for you, given your own weight factors.
I still use tamron G1 VC USD 2.8 and provide great value used is now just 500 what makes it very affordable option , I bought used g1 70-200 and 24-70 both 2.8 for like 1000 euro together with warranty and I still use em, not perfect but covered from 24 up to 200 at 2.8 for price of one new lense is great value
My take on this... the Tamron 70-200 G2 for Nikon is a good lens ,IF you can put up with the inconsistency of the focus. The Nikon is higher priced, but focus is probably more consistent, so you're paying for that. Never shot with the Sigma, but have heard some good things about it. So it really comes down to focus accuracy and speed, and how much you want to spend. For non-professionals, I'd say the Tamron or Sigma should be sufficient, but for working professionals, the Nikon is the better choice. And if you don't want to spend an arm and a leg but want a Nikon lens, you can always get the slower, but still great, 70-200 f/4 version.
how you're doing i just got my canon 80d and i want a good zoom lens like the sigma 70-200 and it's all black and i see it takes great pictures. i want a few lens but i don't want to kill my pockets you understand. but i'm in love with sigma products and plus it's cheaper than canon. i guess those photographers can buy them cause they get paid i do this for fun and i want to be good at what i do ya see.i want to get this 70-200 f2.8 over the canon 55-250 so i want your opinion i'm going to buy the 18-35 sigma lens the 35mm 1.4 sigma lens and the 70-200 that's a good combination right? i was thinking 24-105 and the 24mm pancake lens and my collection is complete
The test winner also has a sibling in the "HD Pentax-D FA 70-210mm F4 ED SDM WR" lens. I think it is "joint" development but not sure how much each company contributed. The Tamron tripod collar works fine on the Pentax though (Pentax does not officially sell/provide a tripod collar).
So just curious about the focusing issue that you had with the Sigma 70-200. Was this only on the Nikon mirrorless body or by chance was this also checked on any other Nikon body, Such as the D500 or D850? Curious if you did by chance. Thanks and keep the great videos coming.
The results you are getting with the Tamrom f2 G2 is not the results thatI get with my copy. Bokeh is better and backlit shots handle better than what shows in your images.
I have the Sigma lens and found the firmware update helpful, that being said I’ve been wrestling with idea of buying the 70-200 S lens for my z7ii. Thanks for your work here. I’ll keep my Sigma and wrestle no more. Or was this the pill I needed to relieve my G.A.S.
I bought the Tamron 70-210 mostly for it´s compactness (motorcycle dude) But it grows on you... The last upgrade on the Z6 3.4 did wounder and i had to upgrade the lens to work on the z camera.. and it´s easy to calibrate the focus in that lens to..
Still have Z6 with 24-70 f/4S and l am absolutely happy. But 70-200 f/2,8S is too expensive for me. Wich telephoto zoom should I choose for videography - AF-S Nikkor 70-200 f/4 G ED VR or Tamron AF 70-210 f/4 Di VC USd? Both of them around US $ +-500. I need silent non-breething AF lens.
Thank you for the honesty, and properly prefacing judgements with the explanation that the art is more important than the cost of the equipment. And then ultimately explaining why the super expensive new lens is valuable in specific situations. And the icing on the cake is the unscripted chatter between the 2 of you as you work, just lovely. Thank you again.
I have the Sigma and Tamron but really want the Nikon 70-200 2.8. My Sigma is great, My Tamron couldn't focus, had to send it to the factory but they don't ship to APOs to it's been sitting at my Father-in-laws's house for the last three years. With that said i have a Tamron 24-70 and it's an awesome lense.
Regarding weight and price comparisons, it seems somewhat unfair to include an f4 lens in this test. It might also be an idea to brainstorm the percentage value of each of the features so that sharpness ranks relatively higher than weight, for example. Anyway, thank you for all the work that goes into such a comparison.
You can do this yourself. Grab their scores, put them in an excel sheet and multiply by a weigth factors per category you choose. You can play around varying weight factors and you ll get an idea where the lenses are at. For me, weight is not a factor but light and sharpness is.Then you ll get your preference outcome.
When there is discussion about Lenses, there are only two persons who bring our focus on focal shrinking every time, one is Tony sir and Dustin Abbott, thank you very much 💞 💕 ❤ 💖
I love my Nikon 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3G ED VR AF-S DX Zoom Lens , I never have to change my lens. It is so versatile, and lucky for me it adapted automatically to my d750.
@@barryobrien1890 That Sigma is the newest 70-200 2.8. It is definitively supported. The old ones are not even in this test and not relevant to this video.
I have the sigma 70-200 f2.8 S, the 500 f4 S and 150-600 S and shoot with a canon R6, the eye and animal eye AF works flawlessly with the EF to RF adaptor on all three lenses. Sigma has always had focus issues on Nikon bodies.
Enjoyed the review, I have the Nikon F 70-200mm f2.8e for both my Z7 and D850 and it performs as expected. I was hoping the difference between the Nikon Z 70-200mm would have been better (my friend isn't going to like this because he sold his F mount in favor for the Z mount), so at this time there is no need for me to buy another lens. I was very surprised that the $400 lens actually beat everyone out, goes to show the more expensive does not equates to better performance.
I'm curious why you left out the Nikon 70-200 f4 F-mount lens? I'm wondering how that one measures up to the rest of the field since it's the one that I own : )
Hi Tony and Chelsea. What is your recommendation for events and sports 70-200 f/2.8 lens? I have the z7 upgrading to Z8. My two options are the used F mount FL version vs the new z mount 70-180 f2.8. My major concern would be autofocusing speed on afc mode, sharpness and keepers. They both would be same price point.
So now we need you to do this for Canon and Sony. I have the Tamron f2.8 on Canon and I notice that at close focus it doesn't zoom out much (focus length seems to stay in about the same from 150 to 200). I'm also interested in a lighter lens. The 70-210 looks nice especially at used price
Great review, I was looking for something like this few months ago when I was shopping for 70-200 lens to my Nikon. I used your channel also to inform my decision and I'm very happy with my sigma. Your latest review just confirms that I chose right 😊 thanks for all your content 😊
i dont understand why all the new 70-200 lenses move the zoom ring away from the body. especially with the focus by wire approach with the Z lenses and the awful manual focus performance of it, why would you want the focus ring closer to the camera? i found the manual focus override to be triggered alot when reaching for the zoom ring over the focus ring, which is quite an awful design flaw.
Good comparison. I've owned all these, except the Sigma. Your top marks lens, the 70-210 (cheapest), did not work out for me, besides being the cheapest and smallest. I've taken many photos , they are good but not one that made me say "WOW". I do not get into the nitty gritty specs. It's what makes me say "OMG" ! whatever that is !! The Z70-200 will consistently give me that. The F- mount E lens is a close second. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video guys !
You showed the Tamron when you presented the Sigma right? Good test. I already own one of them after trying another one of them before and I'm more than pleased with it.
I bought the Tamron F2.8 G2 because of price but I enjoy the performance and quality that I get from this lens. By using the FTZ adapter to put the third party lenses on the Zfc and Z7 could it be possible to reevaluate the two Tamron and Sigma and the one Nikon F-mount lenses on a DSLR like the D850? Then compare the results.
Awesome comparison but in real life the Nikon z 70-200 is much much better then the Nikon F 70-200 FL, and the difference is even bigger compared to the VR2 and VR1. Compared to sigma and Tamron in my books the difference is even bigger. So if money is not an issue go for the z mount lens, for sure! If money is an issue, go for the VR 2 Nikon version.
Still have Z6 with 24-70 f/4S and l am absolutely happy. But 70-200 f/2,8S is too expensive for me. Wich telephoto zoom should I choose for videography - AF-S Nikkor 70-200 f/4 G ED VR or Tamron AF 70-210 f/4 Di VC USd? Both of them around US $ +-500. I need silent non-breething AF lens.
Great work, guys! Tony, you're my favorite nerd of all time! I've had my old gen Sigma 70-200mm since about 2012, I think. It's time for an upgrade and this video helped immensely. I'm going with the latest Sigma 70-200. I can deal with the slow AF since it will be primarily for portraits. I got the Nikon 200-500 that has excellent AF on my D850 & D500 bodies with wildlife and sports!
Thanks for this wonderful comparison, I personally choose the AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6E ED VR. A feather-light lens! It might be a bit out of the equation, but I know a lot of photographers who chose this option. For those who are interested, I have a comparison between this Nikon and a Sigma lens on my channel.
I had a bad experience with Sigma years ago on my Nikon. The only 3rd party lens I have in my kit is the 24-70mm 2.8 Tamron VC lens. I think it is the G2. I have been happy with that lens on my D850
How refreshing to see a video focused on the lens performance not looking at the perceived limitations of the camera. Really great video that I am sure Nikon users will appreciate. If you can look at the 24-70, 105 2.8 and the long lenses when they come out in the same manner that would be awesome!
Those prices are so incredibly nice that I could get a flight ticket to the US, by the lens there, fly back, and still be cheaper off, including the ticket.
I had exactly the same problems with the autofocus on my Canon R6 when I used the EF mount Sigma 70-200 F2.8. I had to return it and bought the Tamron 2.8 instead which workes perfectly (at least the autofocus).
Watching the whole comparison I have to add, that I'm just a hobby photographer and the shortcomings of the Tamron 2.8 (focus, Bokeh, focal shrinking?) have not registered with me and I'm more than happy with the results.
@@Yankeededandy62 I'm a professional shooter who owns both, the Tamron G2 and Nikon FL - I don't see a big difference either. The Nikon is slightly more reliable in the most challenging conditions, but the Tamron hasn't really disappointed me either in any way. In general, 70-200 lenses are workhorses - I'm rarely wowed by the images I get out of them (in contrast to, say, the 105mm f/1.4) but they get the job done. If I was a hobbyist I'd definitely buy the Tamron, not the Nikon. The difference in price is better saved or spent on an f/1.4 prime (as opposed to the f/1.8 version) for example.
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I've been extremely satisfied with the 70-210 f/4 adapted to my Z5. Serious value for money, and a near-macro shooter to boot. Thanks for sharing
Is that the Nikon/Nikkor f/4 … which is a lovely lens to use ?
@@KylieSparticus it's the Tamron 70-210mm f/4 Di VC USD. Relatively new lens, can be had for pretty affordable used, and the photo quality punches well above it's price.
Thanks for this comment I have the same camera and I’m about to buy that Tamron 70-210 mm lens
Hey ! I have a question, I want to change my 70-300 for a 70-200 f4. Did you use the tamron for animals and sport ?
I don’t know if the price difference between the tamron 70-210 and the Nikon 70-200 f4 is worth or not
Eliminating price considerations, the lenses scored: 61, 39, 64, 63, 69. Eliminate weight as well and it goes to 51, 37, 64, 60, 65. Leaving the Sigma as the winner amongst DSLR lenses in "performance" categories. Though the Nikon and Sigma scored well in different categories so it really depends upon what is important to you. Thanks for the detailed comparison, very useful.
"I know when I'm smiling nice bc i make you smile" Very cute. Also "If you look at the difference between these two lenses the first thing you notice is her smile bc that what portraits are about" So sweet. Nice comparison of lenses too!
Because the Nikon eye af isn’t as good. Z6 owner…
@@hotrod4x5 as good as what?
I loved it when she said that. The thing every couple wants to hear I'd say.
I use Tamron 70-210 F4 with Z6 II for street photography. Its perfect for that as it lightweight and love the quality of photo I get.
Lens is so underrated. I dont know why it's so unpopular.
With the adaptor works well? I have the Nikon z5
@@lior2538 pretty well the same way as it was working with Nikon D500 and I see no difference in autofocus and also its muuuch better than Sigma with FTZ (I have sigma art 35mm 1.4). there are an firmware update for compatibility with FTZ. When I bought the lens it alreay had that update, if not you can update it with tamron dock.
Hey ! I have a question, I want to change my 70-300 for a 70-200 f4. Did you use the tamron for animals and sport ?
I don’t know if the price difference between the tamron 70-210 and the Nikon 70-200 f4 is worth or not
@@Pokzy I use it for street photography not for sports. Cant tell how it will perform for sports. But its much much cheaper than the nikom 70 200 F4. It costs 500 euros new and 400 second hand
I lost it when he said “disturbing amount of detail.” 😂😂😂
Older people !!! Some folks, especially women, as they get older, tend to hate "details" in the photos.
😂😂😂
He’s a clown
Thank you doing such a thorough analysis. I'm mostly shooting Canon DSLR exclusively. But your reviews have helped with several of my past lens purchases (and very happy with those choices). Keep it up.
I always appreciate the depth of your comparison reviews, especially lens characteristics that I don't often think about
I can't tell you how much I come to rely upon you both for your reviews. I was looking for 70-200mm f2.8 but the Nikon brands were so much more expensive. I saw the Sigma at a more budget-friendly price, but I wanted to know how it compared. Your controlled, user-friendly, review gave me a better depth of knowledge to make my decision. I'm going with the Sigma because it handled well and was mid-priced.
Thanks - this has made me glad I plumped for the Tamron 70-210 f4. Bought for (mainly) equestrian pics, I decided f2.8 was unnecessary as I mainly shoot outdoors in daylight and a shallow DoF was not really necessary. Paired with a Canon 70D and 6D I've been really pleased with the results. Great comparison review.
Love this! I just bought the Sigma and so far love it! The eye af works great with the Canon R6 and R mount. Not sure why the Nikon had issues for you all.
Sigma has always had focus issues with Nikon for some reason, just like tamron does with canon.
All my Sigma lenses work flawlessly on my R6 as well.
I have the Sigma 70-200 and mine has no issues with focus or eye auto focus on either the z7 or z6ii.
I forgot to add thank you Tony and Chelsea for your hard work and putting this video out there is thoroughly entertaining informative and very much appreciated.
Would have liked to see the older Nikon G version of the f/2.8 too.
Thank you for the comparison. I’m buying the the Tamron G2.
If you had updated the Sigma via its docking station you would have found it worked, you could also have set the lens to adjust focus correctly, it works fine on F Nikon bodies, its razor-sharp fast focusing not flaky, and produces good contrary images with great bokeh, many a professional written magazine has rated it the same as the F mount Nikon lens so the price makes it a better buy. The price of the USB dock is a pittance and it allows you to change the lens setting to what suits you, and use those four buttons on the lens body in the same way as back button focus buttons, very handy.
I think you have done the Sigma lens an injustice, it is extremely good and the price makes it the best lens there other than the Z lens which costs an arm and a leg.
Man I am glad I got the Tamron 70-210 F4. I love how compact it is making me more likely to pull it out to take pics!
really nice lens! love it :) I use it with Z6II and D500
Credible review. Most youtubers nowadays presenting how good canon and sony is, some of them just review nikons bad gears but never appreciate their good ones. You guys showed how good nikkor z 24-70 f2.8 s is compared with sony and canon.
I bought (for $500) the Tamron 70-210 F4 earlier this year so I can have inexpensive 200mm lens for shooing mostly nature. Im really happy with how it performs, and its pretty light. I took it to vacation last month and then I learned how well it performs for portraits. This video just confirms that I bought right lens :) I would love to have Nikon 70-200 f2.8 but maan the price is just too much for me right now. Maybe in time.
Dustin Abbott and Matt Granger did detailed reviews of the Tamron 70-200 g2 on their channels and they did great.
They really liked the lens. Sharpness is excellent and autofocus speed is excellent.
70-200 g2 was not much inferior to the 2nd version from Canon 70-200
Matt Granger compared 70-210 and 70-200 g2. Autofocus on the 70-200 g2 was faster and it was sharper.
Are they lying or are you? who to believe?
I often think about this as well. Although I will say I've owned the g2 for 6 years (and have had issues with it) and I have spent hours if not days researching people's thoughts and comments.
It seems that many have success, many do not, and many have sent their lenses back multiple times before they got a acceptable one. So maybe that's why the difference in reviews results?
There is another used lens alternative in the 80-200mm f2.8D Nikkor. It is heavy, sharp, and beautifully made. It is also cheap at the moment. Since the AF is screw drive it would be manual focus on a Z body. I do not recommend manual focusing as it is difficult with such a narrow DOF.
I bought the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VR I Gray version from someone in super good condition and still inside the box.
I'm happy and thank you for your amazing lens review and the stats you show at the end of the video.
Got it for $750
I've bought quite a bit of equipment from KEH and they are my "Go-To" camera store also. I've got the Nikon AF-S VR 70-200 f2.8G lens cause it was in my price range. I've teested it in my neighborhood, but not in the field yet. My lens selection is 11 Nikon's and one Sigma. I've been interested in Nikon camera equipment since I was stationed in Hawaii in 1970, but couldn't afford one until 2015. Anyway, thanks for taking time to test out the equipment.
Bought the Tamron 70-210 f4 based on your recommendation and couldn't be happier. Awesome lense for the price! Thanks for your review.
The Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2 is the lens I will be recommending anyone who asks.
amazing comparison, really appreciate all the effort put in it. Thank you!!
Interesting review but I appreciate the effort. However, to say "Tamron 70-200 isn't one you'd recommend" and it's disappointing?? That's very arguable and lots of professional photographers would disagree with that statement.
I own it and couldnt be happier with the results. some focus breathing on very close range, all the rest performs great.
Tony overblows focus breathing out of proportions. For real life shooting (for people with legs, Tony not included) the effects are negligible if even noticeable.
I had Tamron 70-200 G2 and Nikon 70-200 FL and have not seen much difference optically. Ended up keeping the Tamron G2 and trading the FL for Nikon 105 1.4 (plus cash). So people should not be afraid of looking into Tamron G2, it has a number of unique advantages.
I had the 70-200 Tamron G2 on my D850 instead of the FL ..What a great lens . However nothing beats my current Z version Nikon on my Z7 ..Next level asnd widely acknowledged as the Best 70-200 f2.8 ever made all brands included
Pointing out that a product does not deliver what you paid for is never blowing it out of proportion, it’s just stating a fact that is relevant to prospective buyers. There are many real world scenarios where taking even one step forward is physically impossible. If I pay for 200mm, I want 200mm.
I had a Tamron G2 on a D850, but focus/chromatic/all round results not good. Swapped it for another - not much better, also sent back. Then got the Nikon F mount - different league. Shame as the Tamron felt well built and obviously good value.
@@lenzyruffin agreed but Tony's test seems subjective as Ricci did exactly the same test with a camera body and shows almost no breathing so I guess you have to do your own research unless these reviewers can come up with an agreed upon test and terminology
I just really love your content. Even if I I cannot afford the products that you showcase I just love watching your videos and the information you provide. Keep posting these type of videos and do keep up the great work.
Great video. It would have been fun if you included the 80-200 2.8 nikon just to see how things have moved on.
They still produce the lens funny enough the two-ring AF-D version.
Thanks for all of the hours you put into this video. I can only imagine how much work had to go into this.
Good review. It's a pity there was no nikon 70-200f4 in this comparison. Also I would suggest to add some points for mfd of the lenses.
Thank you for taking the time to do this testing. It was so helpful
Something wrong with the approach as tamron G2 is way sharper and has better contrast than sigma lens for 70-200
Thanks again for a very useful video but a little constructive criticism from an 8 year subscriber and customer, I've noticed the production quality and frequency of uploads has been decreasing lately, you're my favourite photographery channel and I have notifications turned on for your videos so this is coming from a place of love, no hate
That f/4 lens looks pretty darn compelling! Thanks for the tests, very cool.
Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 Sport works fine with the mc11 on Sony. Eye AF was amazing. Only thing I didn't like was the weight. I did eventually trade it in with some other stuff for the 135 1.8 GM
Having arrived very late to the D850, this video has been incredibly helpful sorting out my 70-200 options. Thanks for the excellent work that continues to be of value to F6, F5, and F100 legacy photographers. Brand new D850s are still an incredible value, provided they are attached to the right glass.
Steve Briggs
Just want to thank you guys for all you do! I am in the market for a new 70-200 and this video is a great help in my decision. Thank you again! Be well.
Thanks for another great video, Tony & Chelsea. You do take testing to a whole new level. I got the Nikon F mount G model, bought two weeks ago secondhand for about 1000 $, and I am very pleased with the performance.
15:08 by the way, on this pictures focus is more accurately at f-mount 70-200
Very interesting and I too appreciate the effort that went into this testing. Some of these criteria should not have equal weight, although what may be more important could vary amongst different photographers.
They pretty much glossed over the sharpness, especially in the corners, which could make more difference to a lot of people than was expressed in this presentation. Getting that right can be costly.
You could make a simple little excel, use the scores from the review, multiply with a weight factor yourself and see for yourself what the outcome would be for you, given your own weight factors.
I still use tamron G1 VC USD 2.8 and provide great value used is now just 500 what makes it very affordable option , I bought used g1 70-200 and 24-70 both 2.8 for like 1000 euro together with warranty and I still use em, not perfect but covered from 24 up to 200 at 2.8 for price of one new lense is great value
My take on this... the Tamron 70-200 G2 for Nikon is a good lens ,IF you can put up with the inconsistency of the focus. The Nikon is higher priced, but focus is probably more consistent, so you're paying for that. Never shot with the Sigma, but have heard some good things about it. So it really comes down to focus accuracy and speed, and how much you want to spend. For non-professionals, I'd say the Tamron or Sigma should be sufficient, but for working professionals, the Nikon is the better choice. And if you don't want to spend an arm and a leg but want a Nikon lens, you can always get the slower, but still great, 70-200 f/4 version.
I recommend KEH, too. Post-sale customer service is two thumbs up.
how you're doing i just got my canon 80d and i want a good zoom lens like the sigma 70-200 and it's all black and i see it takes great pictures. i want a few lens but i don't want to kill my pockets you understand. but i'm in love with sigma products and plus it's cheaper than canon. i guess those photographers can buy them cause they get paid i do this for fun and i want to be good at what i do ya see.i want to get this 70-200 f2.8 over the canon 55-250 so i want your opinion i'm going to buy the 18-35 sigma lens the 35mm 1.4 sigma lens and the 70-200 that's a good combination right? i was thinking 24-105 and the 24mm pancake lens and my collection is complete
The test winner also has a sibling in the "HD Pentax-D FA 70-210mm F4 ED SDM WR" lens. I think it is "joint" development but not sure how much each company contributed. The Tamron tripod collar works fine on the Pentax though (Pentax does not officially sell/provide a tripod collar).
Very interesting test! Thanks for all the work you put into this!
Is the sigma the sport version?
Very true. I understand how much time photography takes. Weeks in testing these lenses is totally fine.
So just curious about the focusing issue that you had with the Sigma 70-200. Was this only on the Nikon mirrorless body or by chance was this also checked on any other Nikon body, Such as the D500 or D850? Curious if you did by chance. Thanks and keep the great videos coming.
The results you are getting with the Tamrom f2 G2 is not the results thatI get with my copy. Bokeh is better and backlit shots handle better than what shows in your images.
I have the Sigma lens and found the firmware update helpful, that being said I’ve been wrestling with idea of buying the 70-200 S lens for my z7ii. Thanks for your work here. I’ll keep my Sigma and wrestle no more. Or was this the pill I needed to relieve my G.A.S.
How much better is the autofocus with the sigma after update on the ftz
I bought the Tamron 70-210 mostly for it´s compactness (motorcycle dude) But it grows on you... The last upgrade on the Z6 3.4 did wounder and i had to upgrade the lens to work on the z camera.. and it´s easy to calibrate the focus in that lens to..
Still have Z6 with 24-70 f/4S and l am absolutely happy. But 70-200 f/2,8S is too expensive for me. Wich telephoto zoom should I choose for videography - AF-S Nikkor 70-200 f/4 G ED VR or Tamron AF 70-210 f/4 Di VC USd? Both of them around US $ +-500. I need silent non-breething AF lens.
Thanks for the hard work, guys. Even though I've been shooting professionally for 9 years, I still bought one of your books recently to support you.
Thank you for the honesty, and properly prefacing judgements with the explanation that the art is more important than the cost of the equipment. And then ultimately explaining why the super expensive new lens is valuable in specific situations. And the icing on the cake is the unscripted chatter between the 2 of you as you work, just lovely. Thank you again.
I have the Sigma and Tamron but really want the Nikon 70-200 2.8. My Sigma is great, My Tamron couldn't focus, had to send it to the factory but they don't ship to APOs to it's been sitting at my Father-in-laws's house for the last three years. With that said i have a Tamron 24-70 and it's an awesome lense.
What's your advice on the kind of lens to use with my Nikon d7200 is it the Nikon 70-200mm 2.8 or the tamaron 70-200mm SP 2.8?
I truly do appreciate you guys. Your reviews are always fun and interesting.
Regarding weight and price comparisons, it seems somewhat unfair to include an f4 lens in this test. It might also be an idea to brainstorm the percentage value of each of the features so that sharpness ranks relatively higher than weight, for example. Anyway, thank you for all the work that goes into such a comparison.
You can do this yourself.
Grab their scores, put them in an excel sheet and multiply by a weigth factors per category you choose. You can play around varying weight factors and you ll get an idea where the lenses are at. For me, weight is not a factor but light and sharpness is.Then you ll get your preference outcome.
When there is discussion about Lenses, there are only two persons who bring our focus on focal shrinking every time, one is Tony sir and Dustin Abbott, thank you very much 💞 💕 ❤ 💖
I love my Nikon 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3G ED VR AF-S DX Zoom Lens , I never have to change my lens. It is so versatile, and lucky for me it adapted automatically to my d750.
I calibrated my sigma lens using the USB dock and got significantly better autofocus. It's heavy but performs really well.
The older Sigma is not supported bu the dock
@@barryobrien1890 That Sigma is the newest 70-200 2.8. It is definitively supported. The old ones are not even in this test and not relevant to this video.
I have the sigma 70-200 f2.8 S, the 500 f4 S and 150-600 S and shoot with a canon R6, the eye and animal eye AF works flawlessly with the EF to RF adaptor on all three lenses.
Sigma has always had focus issues on Nikon bodies.
Wao very surprised about the Tamron 2.8 G2 !!! And the F4 too
Enjoyed the review, I have the Nikon F 70-200mm f2.8e for both my Z7 and D850 and it performs as expected. I was hoping the difference between the Nikon Z 70-200mm would have been better (my friend isn't going to like this because he sold his F mount in favor for the Z mount), so at this time there is no need for me to buy another lens. I was very surprised that the $400 lens actually beat everyone out, goes to show the more expensive does not equates to better performance.
ThankYou Two for all of the work to show us....
I'm curious why you left out the Nikon 70-200 f4 F-mount lens? I'm wondering how that one measures up to the rest of the field since it's the one that I own : )
Thank you so much for this video! This is so helpful having all the lenses being compared in one place :)
Perfect timing for this review. I was just looking into this type of lens for my next purchase. Very useful information!!!
I wish you included the Nikon 70-200 f4. I know you can review them all, but any thoughts on that lens?
Hi Tony and Chelsea. What is your recommendation for events and sports 70-200 f/2.8 lens? I have the z7 upgrading to Z8. My two options are the used F mount FL version vs the new z mount 70-180 f2.8. My major concern would be autofocusing speed on afc mode, sharpness and keepers. They both would be same price point.
Thank you for this video. Good timing before Christmas
Im getting into photography because of your content. I really do appreciate the informative videos. Keep at it!
I love my Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR
So now we need you to do this for Canon and Sony.
I have the Tamron f2.8 on Canon and I notice that at close focus it doesn't zoom out much (focus length seems to stay in about the same from 150 to 200). I'm also interested in a lighter lens. The 70-210 looks nice especially at used price
Great video - sooooo helpful! Thanks - I’m looking forward to watching and learning more from you all!
Great review, I was looking for something like this few months ago when I was shopping for 70-200 lens to my Nikon. I used your channel also to inform my decision and I'm very happy with my sigma. Your latest review just confirms that I chose right 😊 thanks for all your content 😊
i dont understand why all the new 70-200 lenses move the zoom ring away from the body. especially with the focus by wire approach with the Z lenses and the awful manual focus performance of it, why would you want the focus ring closer to the camera?
i found the manual focus override to be triggered alot when reaching for the zoom ring over the focus ring, which is quite an awful design flaw.
Good comparison. I've owned all these, except the Sigma. Your top marks lens, the 70-210 (cheapest), did not work out for me, besides being the cheapest and smallest. I've taken many photos , they are good but not one that made me say "WOW". I do not get into the nitty gritty specs. It's what makes me say "OMG" ! whatever that is !! The Z70-200 will consistently give me that. The F- mount E lens is a close second. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video guys !
You showed the Tamron when you presented the Sigma right?
Good test. I already own one of them after trying another one of them before and I'm more than pleased with it.
why did you guys skipped the 70 200 f4 from nikon?
I liked there format of these tests
The z 70-200 images seems to "pop" more imo
I bought the Tamron F2.8 G2 because of price but I enjoy the performance and quality that I get from this lens. By using the FTZ adapter to put the third party lenses on the Zfc and Z7 could it be possible to reevaluate the two Tamron and Sigma and the one Nikon F-mount lenses on a DSLR like the D850? Then compare the results.
The F-Stoppers have done that comparison, it's on their channel here.
Awesome comparison but in real life the Nikon z 70-200 is much much better then the Nikon F 70-200 FL, and the difference is even bigger compared to the VR2 and VR1. Compared to sigma and Tamron in my books the difference is even bigger. So if money is not an issue go for the z mount lens, for sure! If money is an issue, go for the VR 2 Nikon version.
I actually have done some shoots at hardness park. I used to be stationed in Groton and the park is beautiful and perfect for all kinds of shoots
i own the tamron 70-210 and im very happy~
Still have Z6 with 24-70 f/4S and l am absolutely happy. But 70-200 f/2,8S is too expensive for me. Wich telephoto zoom should I choose for videography - AF-S Nikkor 70-200 f/4 G ED VR or Tamron AF 70-210 f/4 Di VC USd? Both of them around US $ +-500. I need silent non-breething AF lens.
Excellent presentation and covers the topics I was tryign to get in one place. Great work!!!
Great work, guys! Tony, you're my favorite nerd of all time! I've had my old gen Sigma 70-200mm since about 2012, I think. It's time for an upgrade and this video helped immensely. I'm going with the latest Sigma 70-200. I can deal with the slow AF since it will be primarily for portraits. I got the Nikon 200-500 that has excellent AF on my D850 & D500 bodies with wildlife and sports!
Hi
Thanks for the full comparison video.
one question:
Did you calibrate the lenses through the AF-Fine Tune menu before testing?
Don't need to do that on mirrorless cameras.
Thanks for this wonderful comparison, I personally choose the AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6E ED VR. A feather-light lens!
It might be a bit out of the equation, but I know a lot of photographers who chose this option.
For those who are interested, I have a comparison between this Nikon and a Sigma lens on my channel.
just a thought for the future, maybe bonus points for how smooth and precise the manual focus ring feels. loved the video 👍
I had a bad experience with Sigma years ago on my Nikon. The only 3rd party lens I have in my kit is the 24-70mm 2.8 Tamron VC lens. I think it is the G2. I have been happy with that lens on my D850
I second that. I've tried a bunch of Sigma glass and af was always flaky. With the newest Tamrons that's not an issue. They've performed great for me.
How refreshing to see a video focused on the lens performance not looking at the perceived limitations of the camera. Really great video that I am sure Nikon users will appreciate. If you can look at the 24-70, 105 2.8 and the long lenses when they come out in the same manner that would be awesome!
For me Sigma #1
Nikon F mount #2
Tamron f4 #3
Where did you get a Sigma 70-20 f/2.8 Sport for $1100? Used they sell for like $1500 and up.
Thanks. I appreciate the thorough, objective testing to make it less of a personal preference.
Those prices are so incredibly nice that I could get a flight ticket to the US, by the lens there, fly back, and still be cheaper off, including the ticket.
I had exactly the same problems with the autofocus on my Canon R6 when I used the EF mount Sigma 70-200 F2.8. I had to return it and bought the Tamron 2.8 instead which workes perfectly (at least the autofocus).
Watching the whole comparison I have to add, that I'm just a hobby photographer and the shortcomings of the Tamron 2.8 (focus, Bokeh, focal shrinking?) have not registered with me and I'm more than happy with the results.
@@Yankeededandy62 I'm a professional shooter who owns both, the Tamron G2 and Nikon FL - I don't see a big difference either. The Nikon is slightly more reliable in the most challenging conditions, but the Tamron hasn't really disappointed me either in any way. In general, 70-200 lenses are workhorses - I'm rarely wowed by the images I get out of them (in contrast to, say, the 105mm f/1.4) but they get the job done. If I was a hobbyist I'd definitely buy the Tamron, not the Nikon. The difference in price is better saved or spent on an f/1.4 prime (as opposed to the f/1.8 version) for example.
Thank You so much, the focusing of My 70-200 V1 Nikon is dead, and i'm wondeing which one to Buy if it's unrepairable, great review!