Aikido vs MMA Sparring

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  • @MartialArtsJourney
    @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад +42

    Watch all the episodes here: ruclips.net/video/qQlXdXVulO8/видео.html

    • @lustalk-r5h
      @lustalk-r5h Год назад +1

      Hey Rokas, I hope you're doing well! As a fellow martial arts enthusiast and someone who used to practice Aikido, I came across something that I thought might interest you. Have you ever considered exploring Ninjutsu? I recently discovered Sensei Seth's videos, where he shares his experiences with Ninjutsu and the intriguing insights he gained from it. What caught my attention is that Ninjutsu incorporates many elements of Aikido but with notable modifications. This could be a fascinating opportunity for you to expand your skill set and delve into a martial art that has a familiar foundation but offers a fresh perspective. Exploring Ninjutsu on a good school could also broaden your knowledge of different martial arts and expose you to new philosophies. I thought it might be worth considering! What are your thoughts on this?
      From a big fan of your journey, Lucas.

    • @samuelplouvier6559
      @samuelplouvier6559 Год назад

      Noooo, I feel the video is too short 😢 😢😢😢
      Why do you keep making me wait for the next episode?? 😅

    • @makaiev
      @makaiev Год назад

      HAve you ever tried getting from a kai tanage to a quarter nelson? I say this because there is a similar move in grego roman, tho its a standing arm-lock, from which you can pull a quartaer, half or even a full nelson. The position seems favorable, and with hability to pin a person to the ground or to a wall, land some knees or sweep... Stuff like that...Its been a while since I have to use that sort of thing, so this may not be very accurately written...

    • @someman7
      @someman7 Год назад +1

      The cliffhanger series

    • @taylorfusher2997
      @taylorfusher2997 Год назад +1

      To martial arts journey:
      In a self defense situation, a woman is not always going to face against another woman in a self defense situation. Sometimes a woman is going to be facing against a man in a self defense situation.

  • @stevenmael
    @stevenmael Год назад +357

    You're revolutionizing martial arts and aikido specifically whether we see it now or not. Godspeed you magnificent bastard.

    • @Charge183IF
      @Charge183IF Год назад +3

      "Magnificent bastard"? I sense a fellow member of the whiskey tribe. 🥃😅

    • @saltshakergg1813
      @saltshakergg1813 9 месяцев назад

      I was looking for this comment these moves could be so useful imagine a pro mma fighter actually using aikido moves combined with everything else they know is crazy to me this is definitely revolutionary and ppl are sleeping on it for now

  • @fmazzarellio
    @fmazzarellio Год назад +318

    You would benefit greatly by studying the judo transitions from taichi wasa (throws) to ne wasa (ground). It will help you finalize the throw while maintaining control to work the ground without losing position

    • @aviv9400
      @aviv9400 Год назад +27

      If im not wrong the creator of aikido came from judo and he also said you need to know martial arts before you start learning aikido

    • @jmfana9154
      @jmfana9154 Год назад +29

      I came from Aikido into MMA. For me the trick is essentially fully understanding these techniques as "Joint Lock Takedowns." You still need good wrestling and JJ for control on the ground, but it can help me take the fight there.

    • @blitzthekraken9832
      @blitzthekraken9832 Год назад +3

      I keep telling him judo.😅

    • @stasmus1971
      @stasmus1971 Год назад +7

      One very important point for a lot of MA. Espacially when it goes to Self Defense. The missing of a good transition from stand to ground to a fast finishing.

    • @gajorg69
      @gajorg69 Год назад +9

      As a judoka this is an excellent suggestion. Hope rokas sees. Plus more judo content is always welcome. He needs to work with a high level active judo competitor though not just Chadi and a random brown belt.

  • @mrZavior
    @mrZavior Год назад +289

    From blind believer to blind disbeliever to conscious believer... Now THAT'S a journey right there...

    • @MartialArtsJourney
      @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад +23

      😁

    • @mattsuran1270
      @mattsuran1270 Год назад +8

      The classic heroes journey.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад +3

      I don't think Rokas was ever a blind believer tho

    • @muhaiminakbar4472
      @muhaiminakbar4472 Год назад +3

      @@jestfullgremblim8002 he was before he's become like this.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад +3

      @@muhaiminakbar4472 no no, he has ever said in some videos that he never though that Aikido would work very well in a fight. He even said it before his first spar against that one MMA practitioner. So he was definitely not a blind believer, he wasn't even a believer to begin with, just someone that liked Aikido.

  • @jmfana9154
    @jmfana9154 Год назад +75

    As an MMA guy who started in Aikido, I love to see this. I believe the BEST thing Aikido gave me was footwork. Traditional Dojos require you to use both left and right stances, and focus on precise footwork. The second thing is definitely applied in takedowns. These "Joint Lock Takedowns" are simply not performed by anyone else at my Gym and I am known for them. The others try them occasionally but its usually not pretty haha.

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 Год назад +109

    You still are able to make that style you originally loved a lot more functional in real situation. We believe in you, Rokas. Show the world that traditional martial arts can be modified for modern fighting, as a traditionalist myself in Goju Ryu karate and Bajiquan kung fu

    • @JosephGuitar_2000
      @JosephGuitar_2000 Год назад +4

      I also do Goju Ryu karate. Hi fellow karateka

    • @camiloiribarren1450
      @camiloiribarren1450 Год назад +3

      @@JosephGuitar_2000 always a fan and glad to meet another Okinawa karateka!
      Keep it up

    • @TheWesterlyWarlock
      @TheWesterlyWarlock Год назад +3

      @@JosephGuitar_2000 all of us Goju-Ryu karateka have been watching this journey closely lol

    • @azechase6597
      @azechase6597 Год назад +3

      Bajiquan is so beautiful to me I've always admired it and wanted to learn it

    • @dacedebeer2697
      @dacedebeer2697 Год назад +2

      I used to train Uechi Ryu Karate. My sensei would speak very highly of Goju Ryu folks. My transition into Kickboxing & Muay Thai was pretty smooth, had to improve my boxing mostly, and learned to put extra power into the kicks. Still getting the hang of clinch work though, still have a lot to learn.

  • @Mr71203
    @Mr71203 Год назад +13

    Maybe you can call that "back to the Japanese traditional jiu jitsu root" intead of modified Aikido? Because Aikido descended from much older jiu jitsu?
    Anyway you are doing a very good job Rokas!

  • @alexandermargolet9120
    @alexandermargolet9120 Год назад +42

    This is a true example that the journey to martial arts never ends. Still to this day, martial arts keeps evolving from generation to generation.

  • @guilhermebotelho8691
    @guilhermebotelho8691 Год назад +29

    It seems like the aikido moves were good as takedowns but not as good as control after the takedown

    • @thomas_lale
      @thomas_lale Год назад +2

      I think you just need to know where to go after the takedown is done. For example, going for an armbar while the opponent is rolling.

    • @timtime9167
      @timtime9167 Год назад

      When you use that shoulder lock take down if you hook a leg he can't roll. Of course your hips are turned the opposite way but if you transition when he rolls you could use it to solidify side control.

    • @kevingray4980
      @kevingray4980 Год назад

      It's easier to roll out and escape with no cloth to grab. That's why if I wear anything on the Streetz, it's a wrestling singlet.

  • @NestorLedon
    @NestorLedon Год назад +32

    You just need to work on those control points after the takedown. Most of those takedowns are easy to follow with an armbar, omoplata, or wrist lock. Also look for back takes once you turn their shoulder over.

    • @MartialArtsJourney
      @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад +29

      100%. I think I was so aikido oriented that I didn't consider blending it with BJJ. I think it will be much more effective once I'll start mixing it up

    • @ForwardSynthesis
      @ForwardSynthesis Год назад +3

      @@MartialArtsJourney Maybe this will come off as a bit silly, but have you considered what a blend of aikido and jujitsu might be called, considering their underlying meanings in Japanese? Would straight up "Aijitsu" work, or does that not make sense in Japanese?

    • @kevind3974
      @kevind3974 Год назад

      @@MartialArtsJourney also since a lot of them have you end up above them it might also be a good idea to try out a jump attack or vaulting them. you already control their arm and the way they escape that move is by rolling out so to prevent that you just go for a slam move or twist yourself. they lose control and thou you might possible lose their hand in the attack your now in a more advantageous position as now your on top of them or their in a weird position hard to get out of

    • @yarinelmaliach1444
      @yarinelmaliach1444 Год назад +1

      ​@ForwardSynthesis I am by no means a expert in japanese but that name is pretty odd since it roughly is translated to love way/truth or love technique and if you spell it differently it makes a existing phrase which means making the making the most of each day or having a great day

    • @Jikueshin
      @Jikueshin Год назад +2

      I saw the kodogashi and I saw atleast 2 different ways I could use it, both in freestyle wrestling to secure a pin and in bjj to secure a armbar

  • @richardburton6182
    @richardburton6182 Год назад +48

    Imagine going full circle and returning to pure aikido. That would make for a great story. After all this you're like "turns out aikido is the best"

    • @MartialArtsJourney
      @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад +15

      😁

    • @aviv9400
      @aviv9400 Год назад +13

      I wish he wouldnt do it. He goes in a good way and should keep going in it. Aikido can be good as we now know but it is only a very small part in something called martial arts.
      I believe he should train more wrestling and judo it will also help his aikido. But MMA is a way to go

    • @aviv9400
      @aviv9400 Год назад

      ​@@MartialArtsJourneyi hope you see that

    • @Joseferberger
      @Joseferberger Год назад +5

      @@aviv9400 If he is supposed to be a MMA fighter, perhaps.
      If he is supposed to be the coolest aikido guy in the world?

    • @aviv9400
      @aviv9400 Год назад +1

      ​@@Joseferbergeraikido yes but he want to be a good martial artist

  • @marktennenhouse6869
    @marktennenhouse6869 Год назад +20

    Both Judo and Wrestling have always included what you're starting to re-discover. The 2-on-1 tie up to a go behind, the Armspin to a front headlock or pull down, the figure four armlock- Ude Garami in Judo. These are standard moves in Wrestling, Judo and Aikido. But in Judo and Wrestling, you apply these moves during the clinch and scrambles. In Aikido, it's so over flowy and formalized, you lose the whole value of the technique. Now that you aren't afraid of strikes, you are able to get to the clinch and use these moves. Before you lacked realistic experience of fighting. Like I said in here months ago, Aikido only makes sense to fighters who ALREADY know how to clinch, wrestle and throw. Aikido isn't meant to be studied SEPARATELY as a cooperative dance. It's meant to be studied ALONG WITH other martial arts.

    • @douglasgomesbueno1526
      @douglasgomesbueno1526 Год назад

      Judo + Aikido Can work Very well If you train The two styles.

    • @bentinho
      @bentinho Год назад

      I think really, the difference is in wrestling these are somewhat transition holds and since wrestling is trained so practically, the body of knowledge of the art has maintained them as such. Aikido is so formalized and rarely even trained in that way that once the hold is secured the partner is already "submitting".

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад

      Exactly!!! Old Aikido practitioners already knew other martial arts

  • @ryanclark9686
    @ryanclark9686 Год назад +27

    I’ve been watching since your first spar and still I love watching these catch-ups. It’s like a season recap, but for years and years of your journey

  • @ctcm
    @ctcm Год назад +17

    I'm so happy to see Jeff, Mike and Seth motivating you to believe in your own Aikido. I'm so happy to see your Aikido journey becoming a full circle now. Time to keep testing it and maybe in the future you can go over the whole Aikido syllabus of techniques with a fighting approach given your experience.
    I also started with Aikido. I also went through a disillusion phase with it. Then with Karate. I started Gracie Jiu Jitsu and could see an amalgamation of things I had learned before as well as the Jiu Jitsu ground game. I can't wait to go back to practicing Aikido when time permits so that I can blend Aikido and Jiu Jitsu. I've fallen in love with it again!
    Thank you for devoting your time to Martial Arts and showing us your amazing journey. When you were a Sensei you were still very young, but you've become wiser, you've acquired new skills and have battle tested your skills. If one day you come back to teaching Aikido in any way, you will not only be a Sensei as you've done it before, but even without knowing it, you would approach your Aikido like a master who has accumulated wisdom and battle scars.

  • @ghostlightning
    @ghostlightning Год назад +16

    For someone who's been here watching you from the start (and as a frustrated former Aikidoka), this is is amazing and so fucking fulfilling.

  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary Год назад +1

    Amazing video, Rokas!

  • @englishflorist
    @englishflorist Год назад +2

    @hard2hurt's drunk white girl "WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"s really did it for me

  • @kenmasters6438
    @kenmasters6438 Год назад +2

    seems like the next step after Aikido would be BJJ since the maneuvers you pull bring you to a good position over the opponent. in Aikido these positions are the end game, in BJJ they're a good dominant starting position.

  • @gw1357
    @gw1357 Год назад +3

    I think saying "he rolled out of it, so it didn't work" is not giving the technique enough credit. Using the techniques, you created for yourself a moment of significant advantage -- in a self defense situation, you could have used that advantage to escape, recover an item (like a weapon or a phone), or to strike from a dominant position to finish the fight (such as dropping your knee on his face).
    Having watched the USDC, one thing that stood out for me on your fights were how well you managed momentum. You don't ever get bull-rushed. Part of that is that you're a big guy, but a lot of it also comes from your aikido background.
    I wasn't an aikido hater to begin with, but I think you're putting it in a very practical context now that shows that -- while it might be somewhat niche -- its not bullshido by any means.

  • @asg6888
    @asg6888 Год назад +8

    Man my first video I ever watched of yours was the one you mentioned, where you got your ass beat by that Russian guy. I have been with you watching journey ever since. You are truly amazing and inspiring, you never give up and if something doesn't work you put forth maximum effort to make it effective. I always thought aikido was Hollywood bullshido and thought you would leave it behind when you started all your MMA training... but after watching your journey and modifications to the art, I'm super excited to see how you can prove to the world that all it takes is hard work and some outside of the box thinking. Love you Rokas!

  • @yogsothoth-tz2bu
    @yogsothoth-tz2bu Год назад +2

    Ueshiba was right ,you must be a master of fighting before applying aikido.

  • @douglasgomesbueno1526
    @douglasgomesbueno1526 Год назад +2

    Even in UFC 1,2,3 We never see Aikido Guys in MMA we see Karate Guys, Sumo Guys, Savate Guys, Judo Guys, Boxing Guys, Sambo Guys, Kung Fu Guys but never Aikido.

    • @augustineleudar
      @augustineleudar 2 месяца назад

      because they all have full resistance full speed sparring against a properly resisting opponent except kungfu which is hardly ever seen in mma - except for one version of it - sanda or Sǎnshǒu which guess what - has full resistance sparring.

  • @ravenoushydra7948
    @ravenoushydra7948 Год назад +2

    Lol wtf its surreal to see aikido pulled off in actual sparring after over a century of there being 0 footage lol

  • @TheTripWhip
    @TheTripWhip Год назад +5

    Felt like this was a half spar half demonstration. You put yourself at a disadvantage by aiming for Aikido moves but then Jeff Chan’s such a nice guy he recognised that and went super easy. Should have a few more sessions like that and I reckon you’ll be landing those moves with normal intensity sparring 👌

    • @rocelderamos3013
      @rocelderamos3013 Год назад +1

      Yea. Jeff was going easy but you can tell he's kinda curious that's why he's not pressuring Rokas too much. He wants to know what would happen if Rokas actually applied the technique but still giving him enough resistance/feedback.

    • @TheTripWhip
      @TheTripWhip Год назад

      @@rocelderamos3013 100%

    • @rocelderamos3013
      @rocelderamos3013 Год назад

      @@TheTripWhip I think Jeff wants to see if he can resist the joint takedowns without getting too violent or if he can escape into an improved position. But given the video, he did manage to escape but Rokas is still in a better position than him. Thankfully, Rokas still doesn't know how to transition from Aikido to BJJ. If he does, Jeff could've been submitted multiple times every time he rolls out of the takedown.

  • @foggyplayz
    @foggyplayz Год назад +3

    FIRST LETA GOO!!!

  • @jacobjensen7704
    @jacobjensen7704 Год назад +6

    I thought what Jeff said about training your Aikido together with your BJJ made a lot of sense. Most Aikido techniques seem to be really good about getting opponents from clench to the ground. Once you're on the ground, switching into wrestling or BJJ would make more sense.

  • @chris1984plumb
    @chris1984plumb Год назад +2

    Looking forward to seeing you spar with sensei seth! He is a solid dude. He will test you for sure!

  • @rastfaliar9345
    @rastfaliar9345 Год назад +3

    Im truly Happy for you

  • @LunaHusky805
    @LunaHusky805 Год назад +5

    Can a martial arts journey ever really be complete?

    • @aviv9400
      @aviv9400 Год назад

      No it follows you to the

  • @sophiaisabelle01
    @sophiaisabelle01 Год назад +7

    Incredible content as always. Keep throwing those punches as always.

  • @HarfizanMohdSofian-vi6vc
    @HarfizanMohdSofian-vi6vc 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm really impressed your passion😮...can u imagine 15years learn something that....hmmmm

  • @albertbecerra
    @albertbecerra Год назад +3

    I love how you have not abandoned akido and only wish to make more practical and effective. I sincerely believe you are creating history here, in the martial arts.

  • @jamesoneill8901
    @jamesoneill8901 Год назад +1

    Kudos and I appreciate your humble, mindful and honest Spirit! Regarding your journey, you seem to be basically recreating Hapkido. Reinventing the wheel. The Principals are sound. The method of training in modern Aikido and much of Hapkido, does not allow for sufficient progressive resistance. Many American Hapkido groups have corrected this over the decades. Bottom line is, if you have a well rounded base and get good at standing locks, it becomes like rock paper scissors. If you can "fight", adding joint locks and such is next level. But not when its all you got. If you are a serious threat with your kickboxing you will find opportunities. Same when you know how to wrestle and throw. Brings your grip fighting a whole new dimension. YMMV.

  • @jestfullgremblim8002
    @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад +1

    Hear me out, i know that i'll sound a bit like a prick and all but i still got to say this, pls read it all, my only goal is to make your aikido even better:
    I am no Aikidoka, my first Style was Japanese Jujutsu tho, which was branded as Judo and they share a lot of techniques. But even tho i'm not an Aikido practitioner, i still am a martial art savy person and i have tried basically every popular styles and many others as well.
    What i'm trying to get at is that your Aikido is definitely not very good. Yes you were an Aikido teacher, but there are many Taekwondo and Karate teachers that suck at their respective styles (let alone actual fighting) even tho they might have memorized all the forms.
    Why do i say this? Well, it seems like you do not even know all of Aikido's techniques: that "modified Ikkyo" you used, is a real thing that exists! It is called Hiji Kime Osae in Aikido and Waki Gatame in Judo, so yeah, you ain't modifying anything.
    The next thing is that you do not understand how to put Atemi (striking) and regular Aikido techniques together. Haven't you heard? Striking is the biggest part of Aikido. You should use pushing punches, if your opponent resists them, you are supposed to do Tenkan or Tentai (you probably know what those mean) which will lead into them getting Aikido thrown just like in the forms because you'll use their own strenght plus yours, and talking about Tenkan does lead into the my next point
    You never use Tenkan, Aikido camnot be used properly without it! It is the thing that helps setup most techniques, to do Tenkan properly, you need to first push your opponent shock style or strike at them (hope you understand) and then suddenly grab their arm/wrist and do Tenkan; that will lead to pther techniques.
    Another thing is that you never use the techniques called "Aiki Otoshi" (which is just like what we call Sukui Nage in Judo) it is basically meant to be used after failing to perform another technique (and ending up in a undesirable position). You can also use like a double leg takedown, you fake a punch and then go for this technique.
    You also do not seem to know how to make the Aikido scenarios actually happen. With "Aikido scenarios" i mean the usual way in which Aikido is practiced. You know, with somone running at you or tryig to grab your arms/wrists. This allows you to catch their attacks very easily but it seems like it never happens in a real fight, right? Well, there are ways to make it happen and you do not seem to know about them, so here i go with the simplest one:
    You are supposed to always keep your distance from your opponent (just outside of kick reach, not very far) and back away everytime they aproach slowly. What does this do, you might ask! Well, as you are always "running" from them, they'll have to try and catch you, so they'll move quickly at some point, at that very momment you are supposed to move towards them instead. It will basically be the same as an "Aikido scenario" because they'll be moving into you without a lot of control and you'll have a rough idea of when and how they'll attack, if they don't attack in time, then you do what i said about Atemi or just push them and then do Tenkan.
    I think already wrote too much, pls let me know if you saw this and do try what i wrote!
    Like i said, i'm not an Aikidoka, but i know fighting and i have many friends that definitely know they Aikido and how to use it, if you want me to explain about anything else or how to set up any Aikido thing, pls talk to me.

  • @Diablokiller999
    @Diablokiller999 Год назад +1

    Looks like smacking a nail with a screwdriver - I don't think most Aikido techniques work in a professional fight (some could work with variations though, know them from JiuJitsu) but does Aikido have to?
    I think it belongs way more to self defense than sports competition, while most techniques need a revision since they are way to long but they actually can work as proven by bouncers and security personell. Have a look at some ATK-SV or something, they changed JJ moves to suit self defense needs and some of them also appear in Aikido.

  • @AdobadoFantastico
    @AdobadoFantastico Год назад +1

    CRUCIFIX! You need to practice attacking the crucifix, my guy! Jeff's response was usually to continue the movement the shortest way to turtle so he can fight back up. If you get good at timing those responses, you can use stuff like the kaiten nage to consistently force opponents into a position where you can threaten subs. Crucifix is an awesome entry for diverse attacks, you can control people and make them super tired.

  • @ismaelbouach5457
    @ismaelbouach5457 Год назад +1

    Remember when Kazushi Sakuraba broke Gracie's arm ? The technique looked Aikido-ish

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 8 месяцев назад +1

    your whole body has changed. your almost unrecognizable now from that guy 6 years ago. fuckin grade A work

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 Год назад +1

    I started in Karate and have cross trained extensively, am a veteran, and have been in numerous non-military, real-life fights/self-defense situations.
    My advice is this: The is only Combat, and to be good you need Skills. learn everything, add it to your mental library, train and try the techniques you learn to determine if it will work at all, and if it's right for you and your situation(s): if so, add it to your repertoire.
    Styles are just that: Stylistic preferences, no two people really have the EXACT same style, so don't try to. instead, try to work your brain into a state in which it can better identify opportunities, rather than obstacles. "Every door closed in your face can be opened if you have the right key"
    one must adapt oneself to the situation and opponent in order to overcome it, because it won't adapt to your preferences or style.
    think of it like surviving a plane crash: if you're gear and training only works in a wet, mountainous forest, and the plane goes down in a desert, you may be screwed: so learn the desert skills too, just in case, and how to tell when to use what skill: which is a skill in and of itself.

  • @willwailes9298
    @willwailes9298 Год назад +1

    You should train with some Hapkido guys. The reason Aikido doesn’t work is because there’s no sparring. Hapkido incorporates many of the same moves and principles, and they spar. I used to have a neighbor who was a Hapkido black belt. He showed me a couple submissions and they were legit.

  • @Baroxshitposter665
    @Baroxshitposter665 Год назад +2

    You are the proud of Aikido 👍🔥🥊💪

  • @KekLord-hq3yp
    @KekLord-hq3yp Год назад +3

    Have you tried adapting a more aggressive attitude? Maybe with going for the neck more often. After a takedown you could try to also go for a tighter arm lock/twist and laying your body more broadly as to not allow your opponent to roll. Try to make sure to restrict as much movement as you can while making it hurt. I believe Judo should have some good techniques to help with that

    • @KekLord-hq3yp
      @KekLord-hq3yp Год назад +1

      To add to this, you could also take some inspiration from the Aikido guy in Jesse's recent video. That guy showed some really unique approach to striking with applying some Aikido principles

  • @httohot
    @httohot Год назад +18

    I am so excited for you and the future of aikido and mma in general
    Dont stop you are one of the pioneers pushing the needle forward and we wont be able to fully recognize your work and progress for a while but that time will come

  • @EliteBlackSash
    @EliteBlackSash Год назад +1

    Nice, against someone whose not an MMA superstar that spends all his days on tour Fighting the best of the best, most of these would probably be very effective, with some work on the endings. Looking good :)

  • @ramjo1
    @ramjo1 Год назад +1

    The moment you start blending your aikido with bjj you gonna see things working.
    You need some follow up after you apply the aikido Technics, there is a lot of back takes and arm bars just hanging up for grabbing

  • @intricate9666
    @intricate9666 Год назад +2

    Cant wait to your spar against sensei seth

  • @seadawg93
    @seadawg93 Год назад +1

    Cool! It’s also inline with what another of your USDC competitors, Ramsey Dewey, says on his channel, that all martial arts work when you know how to fight.
    He’s got videos showing and it taking about Bagua or aikido guys that train with him so they can learn to fight, so they can make their art work.

  • @ianoji
    @ianoji Год назад +1

    I feel like you're putting an impossible burden on aikido. It's almost like if you were in a wrestling gym, and told a wrestler, "double legs don't work because after your opponent's down on the ground he doesn't instantly combust into flame and die"

  • @rodneywoods9299
    @rodneywoods9299 Год назад +7

    That Aikido move that you pulled off looked really impressive. I was surprised it worked. I would love to see you work on making it more functional with some sort of follow up move. Definitely cool points for the execution of the technique!

  • @w8ngr
    @w8ngr Год назад +1

    Jeff even gave you a chance to start something (and that’s ok) but weather it follows through (which is equally good) is up to you, that’s your journey I think for the next year taking what YOU have learned in combative martial arts and trying to apply something from aikido eventually you’ll find some things, there’s bound to be SOMETHING APPLICABLE I find it hard to think an entire martial art doesn’t have ANY applicable moves even if it’s 1% that’s still double of zero

  • @lordMartiya
    @lordMartiya Год назад +1

    I hear that Aikido was originally taught to people who were already skilled martial artists. If anything, this seems to confirm it.

  • @Mishkola
    @Mishkola Год назад +1

    So....does this mean we've learned the lost truth of Aikido: that it is largely about takedowns from the clinch?
    Also Rokas, I noticed from this video that you had a lot of opportunity to convert your Aikido takedowns into submission attempts. The next part of your quest to make Aikido functional?

  • @handytechnique6609
    @handytechnique6609 Год назад +1

    Great stuff mr R , you did real good in usdc under pressure. Just spar more in MMA and bjj like Jeff

  • @Nova-hw9fr
    @Nova-hw9fr Год назад +2

    First

  • @illumitabris
    @illumitabris Год назад +1

    "How to make aikido semi-effective: Spend 20+ years doing it"

  • @mycheung6757
    @mycheung6757 Год назад +1

    Great, but I think he is letting you to do them. Anyway, good techniques

  • @VincenzoL
    @VincenzoL Год назад +2

    Jeff is so amazing because he got used to destroy his comfort zone, sparring anyone.
    Martial arts, every martial arts, usually give strong roots, but you (we) need to practice, teach our brain how to apply these movments in a "not friendly" enviroment.
    Rokas, you are doing great, good job and good luck with your journey!

  • @marcusmjx740
    @marcusmjx740 Год назад +1

    It's so great that you have friends like Icymike and Jeffchan to help you on your journey to improve your style. You're sparring to try to make certain techniques work, and how to improve on their execution. Jeff Chan is sparring to help you learn, not to prove hes better. This is what martial arts camaraderie is about 👍

  • @chubbymoth5810
    @chubbymoth5810 Год назад +1

    I think that now you have some experience with real fights, the highly ritualised Aikido moves start making more sense when applied in a real combat setting. It will be very interesting to see if you can return Aikido to its true form.

  • @shoulung
    @shoulung Год назад +1

    There is something my Martial Arts teacher used to say. He said, Aikido would only work if the person using it, is skilled enough to not need it.

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative Год назад +3

    It's not Aikido that changed... You did! Great video man!

  • @CentipedeGuy
    @CentipedeGuy Год назад +2

    These are potentially very effective take downs, moves to get positioning and possibly even submissions that no one is doing in combat sports. You could change the game with this stuff. (More just add stuff to it but you get the point) keep it up!

  • @MysTicBiGz
    @MysTicBiGz Год назад +1

    Jeff Chan is the modern-day Bruce Lee

  • @bangermccrusher
    @bangermccrusher Год назад +2

    Years ago I told you that once you became proficient at fighting aikido would started to Flow a little bit more, people laughed and said things like "that aint aged well" etc etc but here you are. Good for you man.😮😮

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 Год назад

      then aikido isnt effective then if you have to be good at fighting to pull it off. Or in his case study OTHER proven systems.

    • @discipleofkhorne9472
      @discipleofkhorne9472 Год назад

      ​@@teovu5557That literally applies to everything. You could be practicing boxing for years by hitting pads and a heavybag but if you don't spar you won't learn to fight and it will do you no good. You have to get good at fighting to apply any martial art against someone who can fight.

  • @victorribeiro2431
    @victorribeiro2431 Год назад +1

    Plot twist: Rokas is about to create a new federation/school of Aikido focused in the fighting aspects, and this series is a promo

  • @samk8470
    @samk8470 Год назад +1

    I watched with auto generated subtitles, and this was the ending '...to spar with Scenty Seth' 😂

  • @MasterTrainerFred
    @MasterTrainerFred Год назад +4

    That was great skill shown. You went in with an objective to work on specific principles. This is all progressing into functional principles. Finding what works for you.

  • @solovyeva-altarce1894
    @solovyeva-altarce1894 Год назад +1

    This could be very interesting in the future - perhaps we could see if there are aikido techniques that could really be applied in MMA.

  • @olebon6019
    @olebon6019 11 месяцев назад +1

    No fight, just boring talking

  • @PalonDude
    @PalonDude Год назад +1

    Think the main issue is the lack of your opponents momentum to redirect and fuel the technique - which I believe is the general concept. Making it work without it, while possible, will just yield suboptimal results. Then again, not everybody can have the supposed Ueshiba lvl of predicting the future in a fight and/or having Flash tier reflex.
    PS. from my experience kotegaeshi always was hands down one of the most practical aikido techniques (I also went Aikido -> MMA but on a far more amateur scale). Glad to see someone with clearly higher expertise reach a similar conclusion :P GJ and GL.

  • @gengotaku
    @gengotaku Год назад

    Good to see how are you starting ti get interested in aikido again. I will get my black belt in aikido in aikido and am excited to see new ways to use aikido, should I need to defend myself sometime in Japan. lol

  • @klimu4710
    @klimu4710 Год назад +1

    Can i use your pfp as inspiration for mine

  • @arnie9913
    @arnie9913 Год назад +2

    Great content man, I love your spirit and humility, your mindset is that of a pioneer, what you are doing is awesome, I remember seeing your first attempt at trying aikido vs mma years ago, your journey since then has been magnificent.

  • @questions9856
    @questions9856 Год назад +1

    Oh look! Maybe you shouldn't have shat on your TMA origins and just needed... actual fght experience.

    • @MartialArtsJourney
      @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад

      Maybe all TMA guys need actual fighting experience but most don't go to get it?

    • @questions9856
      @questions9856 Год назад

      @@MartialArtsJourney And like you said, maybe it wasnt worthless all along

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 Год назад +1

    This reminded me of combat practice at bujinkan, at least at my local dojo, most jointlocks start from another position od control, be it a clinch, an armdrag, or something else... Biggest difference is when the oponent rolls over we go for ground and pound... Also, lots od shoves as part of the throw... Like... You get the gyaku dori(either ikyo ro kote amgaeshi are variations of gyaku dori in bujinkan... But in this case ikkyo) and when the guy is oit of balance, before you take them down, you step foward and push them so you force them to either roll or eat the ground... It works for us because our ibjective is for they to fall away from us, either to stomp on them or to run away... So we dont care about keeping control in those cases

    • @nagyzoli
      @nagyzoli Год назад

      Fellow ninjutsu here, brown belt. I also love the style for the throws / takedowns. Once on the ground ( I suck hugely there) disregarding some ultra-traditional position like ioi-dachi + armbar that very evidently was a sword fighting position where you use the sword or stick as leverage it is mostly BJJ (well.. not mandatory Brasilian variant, same stuff is found in any "jutsu" involving grappling nin, aiki, jiujutsu, even old korean styles). I found myself in the same dilema as Rokas. I can strike. I can even perform a joroi-otoshi or the low stance takedowns from Tokagure-ryu. But for the love of god I can not control a quality opponent once on the ground. I simply can not grasp BJJ. VERY VERY very technical. And a weakness on ninjutsu I found affecting me.. is the lack of defense teaching against a big opponent that rams you. You have the redirects with ichi-monji and low leg kicks (targeting the knee or below, not the calf as kickbox) or absorbing and throwing over the hip or shoulder. But you do not always have the luxury of time and skill. The other guy is better and faster, you failed to dodge or swipe his leg or perform the hane (low lift of the leg, like in classical judo)... now what. There is no transitioning defense. My teacher loves BJJ and taught us to "glue" to the opponent, landing in a BJJ rear guard position when smashed into the ground. This part I have not seen in the first 3 (out of 9) schools of bujinkan. Again I suck and ground stuff.

  • @ElevateSuccess-p3h
    @ElevateSuccess-p3h Год назад +1

    "my martial arts journey is complete" dude you are saying that you got to the end of eternal road

  • @davidvelardevelasco2471
    @davidvelardevelasco2471 Год назад +2

    Bro im proud of you being capable of making aikido functional keep like that master, cheers from Mexico

  • @landoftheninja
    @landoftheninja Год назад +1

    Wow. It's almost like these techniques were once perfectly functional and were watered down to make a softer martial art system🤔
    - Brought to you by the jujutsu gang

  • @grantoaklands4724
    @grantoaklands4724 Год назад +1

    Would be good to see you spar with a beginner to see how well your Akido works

  • @lazerfruit2121
    @lazerfruit2121 Год назад +1

    We shall call this Rokas Aikido

  • @johnytipu4514
    @johnytipu4514 Год назад +3

    Great work, keep in mind that guy is a professional mma fighter at level that a few people are at, so imagine what you would do to an untrained or even a less trained attacker

  • @alvininuk7492
    @alvininuk7492 Год назад

    If you combine this and other ground fight submission , it will be much harder to defend

  • @Elementlul
    @Elementlul Год назад +1

    Im loving this series!

  • @Raivon
    @Raivon Год назад +1

    All great things start with a crazy idea

  • @deadmeatgames2
    @deadmeatgames2 Год назад +2

    Look at yourself!! Now have the confidence you have rightly earned. You are a big strong guy who knows how to fight. Aikido works. Just not many folk seem to be able to do it well. You have fixed those problems. Good work man

  • @OneaeMighty
    @OneaeMighty 23 дня назад

    Aikido Master Rokas I Would Be Honored Loving Respective To Learn Routine Practice Fitness Prevention Health Martial Art Of Peace Together Pacifist Friendship.

  • @MrOfigenko
    @MrOfigenko Год назад +1

    can you widen your a roll camera angle, we need to see more of your hands; it's generally too tight and feels a bit claustrophobic when the camera is so close to the talking head

    • @MartialArtsJourney
      @MartialArtsJourney  Год назад

      Note taken

    • @MrOfigenko
      @MrOfigenko Год назад

      @@MartialArtsJourney wow, I didn't expect my comment to be seen! sorry for the absence of "please" and stuff :) Found your channel couple of weeks ago and find it fascinating, thanks for the work you do

  • @marcoeugeniogallina5486
    @marcoeugeniogallina5486 Год назад +1

    Being a Bjj guy, I always thought that Aikido was perfect for short distance fight where the opponent is limited by ground or walls or even a cage. In my firsts bjj class I sparred a lot wirh an Aikido blackbelt and I learned at my expenses how Aikido wrist and joint lock can be effective in ground fight

  • @kristianOLS
    @kristianOLS Год назад +1

    Its interesting to note the functional version of the aikido techniques are just other techniques of other systems that are already functional.
    Kote Gaeshi being the notable exception

    • @nagyzoli
      @nagyzoli Год назад

      Aikido did not appear from thin air. Of course tehniques from other, older styles were used in the creation.

    • @douglasgomesbueno1526
      @douglasgomesbueno1526 Год назад

      ​@@nagyzoliJudo and Aikido are soft Versions of Classic Jujutsu.

  • @TreyYork1
    @TreyYork1 27 дней назад

    Until this event, I never realized what a big guy Rokas is! Clinching is a good strategy when you're that big. Making the other guy carry your weight can wear most people out pretty quickly!

  • @ElselchoGaming
    @ElselchoGaming Год назад +3

    Great to see my favourite martial youtubers collabing.

  • @fighting.words.ma.library
    @fighting.words.ma.library Год назад

    That's interesting. I love playing around with standing submissions, and have been able to hit some bent and straight arm locks from the Greco-Roman Wrestling style clinch in friendly sparring. I wonder how far you could take this if you invested some serious time in clinch fighting, either Greco or maybe Muay Thai style. I'm convinced I'm going to pull off a Shiho Nage from a two-on-one arm control one day 😄 Well, I've got almost no formal training in Aikido, so maybe you're a better candidate for that.
    I'd also like to offer up Erik Paulson's concept of "running Judo" as possible inspiration for some throws, maybe Irimi Nage:
    ruclips.net/video/c61tT0Hd_Dg/видео.html
    Anyway, here's to your continuing journey.

  • @devindodge8648
    @devindodge8648 4 дня назад

    That second modified kaitonage could aim to enter a kimora lock that would've finished someone.

  • @mrjoemikeymercado8197
    @mrjoemikeymercado8197 Год назад

    For me,, I most preferd the, Brazilian jujitsu,, compare to the,, traditional combat aikido,,, that's all,,,😊😅

  • @VladSuperKat
    @VladSuperKat Год назад

    Don't take a big break. I've made the mistake once and lost all my mobility and then I got lazy. After two years I was so thin, no conditioning but lucklily I got back and in 3 months I recuperared some of my mobility but never like before. Before I could have kick above people heads that are much higher than me. Now I can barely kick at the head but with not much power, I have the power but not the mobility.

  • @mariogarcia620
    @mariogarcia620 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do hapkido.

  • @EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes

    Wow, brilliant. I would like to see Sumi Otoshi attempts from a clinch. You know, I think maybe that your future is to continue with your Aikido dojo but have a street-element class afterwards - or - begin your own Aikido Foundation because I think you will take it to where it needs to go :)

  • @devindodge8648
    @devindodge8648 4 дня назад

    Sensei, you are a great martial artist, you have the right philosophy and that is why you will be a sensei to so many.💯

  • @autistpatrol2493
    @autistpatrol2493 Год назад

    My Prescription for Rokas is to intensively explore after his next MMA bout.
    Kodokan’s one year to judo black belt program. Nage Waze, Te Waza and Bogyo Waza (Takedown Defense) Improvement.
    Rokas talks to Shintaro Higashi, Chadi, Matt D'aquino and Travis Stevens
    Shodokan Aikido (Competive Aikido) 1 month of cross training while doing Judo
    Ashihara Karate or Enshin Karate (at least 6 months, maybe cross train while doing the judo program) - full contact brawling karate with Nage Waza and Sabaki Movement. Both styles have produced kickboxing and MMA champions.
    Sumo Kimarite / Yotsu Sumo aka the grappling portion of Sumo (1 month)
    Phuket Top Team’s 3 months intense BJJ program (most intense 3 month BJJ program in the world
    Phuket Top Team’s Muay Thai program
    The puzzle will be complete. Rokas will create a new Aikido that has learned from similar arts and can apply itself in sport and self defense.
    He will invent a new system!

  • @rankpa
    @rankpa 8 месяцев назад

    Seems like Aikido has 2 faces. 1. - Training and sparring are more like a ‘dance’ where the moves are PRACTICED, the ‘attacker’ and ‘defender’ are cooperating, and much attention is paid to safety to avoid destroying joints. 2. - In a no-holds-barred, life and death self defense fight, a competent Aikido defender facing a real attacker could probably quickly destroy a joint and cripple his opponent.