Bill Browder: The future of Russia after the war
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- At Spear's 500 Live, private client professionals - from wealth management, philanthropy, luxury, law and property - gathered at The Savoy to share insight, strengthen networks and hone their understanding of the forces that shape the lives of ultra-high-net-worth clients.
Spear's Editor-in-Chief Edwin Smith was joined by Bill Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital Management - previously the largest foreign investor in Russia until 2005.
Browder spoke to the 500+ audience about his first-hand experiences uncovering corruption and money laundering in Russia; and the tragic death of his lawyer Sergei Magnitsky and his campaign in Sergei's name.
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For an alternative perspective on the debate, Spear's Magazine sits down with leading international lawyer, Robert Amsterdam: ruclips.net/video/QWKRMKrl5ak/видео.html
Trump is Putin's man in America A true traitor. Montague
Watching the two speakers is educational. It provides a sharp illustration, between on the one hand a professional individual who speaks from experience, competence and the highly risky management of both his professional and his personal life stages; and on the other hand an ideologist who has little to offer, sticks to the weak rationalisation of his opportunistic opposition to the Western support of an invaded independent country, and has little (if anything) to say on the merits of his supposedly humanitarian support of Russia. We do know who’s credible and worthwhile listening to.
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God be with you Bill Browder.
He's Satan's minion
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@@djape1977 pooptin is a Satan.
@@djape1977 🤡
clearly he's God's minion. He's been hunted literally by Putin's thugs, literally several attempts were made on his life by mysterious characters, etc. Putin used the international arrest-warrant system within Interpol to issue an arrest warrant, abusing that system! Time's up for Ru, it has violated the very terms upon which the RU Federation was permitted to take over the position on U.N. Security Council, that USSR had occupied. It now violated the conditions that was made on including Ukraine's border. HELLO russians: your time is up. Within two years at most, if u do not withdraw from all of Ukr, u will lose..everything... you love. @@djape1977
In a world of tankies like George Galloway and Russell Brand, it's nice to see someone who wants to stand up to the dictator.
American act like A dictator to the rest of the world
The interviewer and a number of the questioners betray the moral squalor of too many in the financial community. A common thread was ‘how can we just go back to making as much money as possible without having to worry about how monstrous Putin and his henchmen are’. The objections to sanctions were particularly vacuous and intellectually bankrupt.
Very well said.
Point well taken
Their grandparents prolly loved Mosley.
@@B.D.E.😊😊😊😊
When the interviewer invokes "russophobia" it becomes clear that this is an association of reputation and money launderers... you have to marvel at Bill Browder's moral leadership to go there and speak planily
It’s always easy to know what is right and what is wrong.
People that have too much reverence for money are the ones that have a hard time doing the right thing.
In the year 2000 I was running a construction company that I started in 1986. I turned in a person at a hospital that was demanding kickbacks.
I had to wear a wire with LAPD recoding the payoffs as I made them at a restaurant
I ultimately even had to testify in front of a grand jury.
It was scary as I also had my life threatened and as happens to whistleblowers my company was punished by the very hospital we helped. We were not asked to bid work for 5 years.
However, I’m glad I did the right thing as my 9 year old son saw the whole thing.
My wife later told that if I had cheated with another woman she might have forgiven me but would surely have divorced me if I had gotten involved in the kickback scheme.
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Snitches get stitches
Bill Browder is a very great man. Brave and highly intelligent. Definitely needs to be played by Stanley Tucci in any movie made about his life.
Put Trump on a plane and bring him to Ukraine... Not to see the distraction but experience the bombing. And find his life in danger.
Damn. He'd absolutely nail it!
One is NOT "great" through compartmentalizing his morality. As a US citizen of extreme financial power, his neutrality is amoral to an extent that implicates him in past and future social destruction and fragmentation there.
@@briseboy Your statement is non-sense at a factual, logical and intellectual level.
@briseboy is a ruZZast bot
Bill browder is the most courageous man today. He should be nominated for the Nobel Peace prize if it has any meaning left.
I would think his concern is justice, not necessarily peace. Those aren't necessarily compatible in cases where the only way to bring justice is by force and when state level scales by war. By giving Putin everything he wants would bring peace but certainly not justice.
Navalny and Kara-Murza are even more courageous than Browder . They could have stayed abroad, but they went back to Russia knowing they would be jailed or killed.
@@TedATL1 agreed
@@TedATL1 We're down with Navalny's right to not have his underpants poisoned with novichok, but that's not a qualification to become president of Russia, that's just regular common decency.
This sleezy multimillionaire who made a fortune during the 1990´privatizations ?
I assume your other "heros" are called Gusinsky, Berezovsky and "persecuted" billionaires like Chodorkowski right ?
I have such admiration for Bill Browder, a business man, somebody who has made a lot of money and his ethics and awareness of human rights abuses are what matter most to him. Thank you!
He's the most hypocritical bastard I've heard lately. He's wanted in Russia for a crime spree starting with tax evasion ending with conspiracy to commit two murders
I too have a lot of admiration for Mr Browder - but not "because he made a lot of money".
Weird how making money impacts people more than the humanitarian herculean work he has done. I.e. the Magnitsky act.
@@gurupilates if he didn't conspire himself to kill Magnitsky it would be admirable
He should run for US presidency.
@@jefffoster8614 one president bought by east European oligarchs wasn't enough?
Read all Browders books - really worth it👍🏻
He's our of touch.
@@Noel-ji8nm Like to touch people, do you?
Watch the Magnitsky Act: behind the scenes - and you’ll find out that Bill Browder is a conman.
Bill Browder is a shining light of intelligence and decency. 10x the man that bunker-grandpa pootin is.
In my opinion the only really sane and reasonable voice in the midst of this horrible war.
Excellent!!! Thank You so much for this!!!
Thank You Bill ❤
Excellent interview.
Hats off to Bill browder 🎩
A wonderful interview with many salient observations by Mr. Browder!
his projet in russia failed, jew lost money. hence is the grief
@@calokraine5901a Russian showing his tru colors.
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@@dmitryshusterman9494 ok jew go fight 4 Israel
i can tell u r channeling Medvedyev's recent psychotic ramblings with antisemitic remarks! Russians and all reactionary populists globally are so predictable, with the exact same 120 year old themes/memes and b.s. You are a threat to civilization itself and if u dn't choose to wisen up, u will personally lose everthing u care about. I promise u, bcuz i know more than u do, about russian military history, as well as the history of the succesful part of the world, i.e the west. @@calokraine5901
"All that's required for evil to triumph is for the good man to do nothing." Thank you, and thank goodness for men like Bill.
Biden is the one sending all our money to ungrateful Ukraine.
U R a fool. Go to my comment above I can't take the time to lead all U ever trusters to do the work.
Thank you . Very enlightening speaker. Sorta restored my faith with sanctions.
Very informative.Thank you.
I live in Austria and always get annoyed when people confronted with Ukraine bring up Iraq. Can't they really see the difference? The US conducted precision attacks on key areas and the actual war was over in a month or so. They did their best to avoid civilian casualties, as far as I know. Yes, the invasion was a mistake and they got into a quagmire with many victims and people kept fighting and dying for years to come, which is sad and terrible, but Russia is committing crimes against humanity in Ukraine, targeting civilians on a massive scale and committing atrocities, destroying nature and risking a nuclear catastrophe. The crimes committed in Iraq were exposed by US journalists and people were free to express their criticism from the beginning, while in Russia teenagers got beaten up by the police when protesting and now people risk years long jail sentences even for calling it a war.
@@hey.you.. I know many Ukrainians who escaped from the war personally so I know about the atrocities and barbarity Russians are perpetrating there.
@dankam1508
Hello....
That is it...DEFINITIVE !
You are the naive fool.
@@dankam1508 American army also kill a lot of innocent people
Bill Browder has had the Russian scene pegged right from day one. To bad that the West was so slow to listen.
This is one of the weaknesses of the western warld: you are unable to differentiate between a good man and a rogue. Sometimes it feels you are all rogues, the whole nation are rogures.
I loved how Browder put the blase interviewer in his place in a cool, calm , collected way. I don't think I could have kept my temper like that.
Completely agreed. The interviewer is insufferable.
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Bill is my compass. Integrity inc.
This is a real hero.
If this hypocrite is a hero for you then you really need to rethink your life
Browder's position is both morally strong and logically sound. His point about the west reaching the position when it makes sense to deploy frozen Russian assets to the rebuilding of Ukraine was very well made.
U R a scuker, start with Wikipedia before U get yourself too excited about this con.
Я считаю, что замороженные деньги могли бы пойти на борьбу со всем терроризмом на планете.
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Give this guy a huge ovation-cheers bill
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Американские дебилы всегда аплодируют умным проходимцам.
He talks nonsense
Bill Browder is a great American!
Wish I could hear it. Have my speakers way all the way up just to hear. Great conversation! Will be very interesting to see how our world shakes out in the coming months and years.
same here Heath, so ,plug in headphones OR watch on your TV , much better
Glad to hear bill Browder is fighting for Vladimir kara-murzas life.
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Refreshing having Browder stating the facts that have lead us to this. I hope Western governments take notice...we have willingly stepped into this nightmare because of our greed.
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@@arisnotheles You can sit on your high throne and make philosophical BS, the reality is where we stand. After this Ukrainian war and the destabilised world, the West has lost the military and economic advantage. Europe is in dire conditions due to the increase in the cost of energy, the reduction of trade, increase in countries debt as well increase immigration and social destabilisation. This is the reality. The US keeps growing by taking advantage of Europe's dilemmas. I guess you know everything on global economy and geopolitics.
Bill browder is doing a fantastic job with courage and smartness,i really hope and think he ca play a big role when times comes to rebuild russia to be a democracy,glory to him
What courage? nobody need this clown.
Bill Browder is fighting for a better world. Support him!
Child sex trafficking, child labor, children changing their gender at 8 years of age are the better world? Holy...
No, he doesn't.
Bill, you are a great man of integrity and honor. I want to help you anyway I can.
Купи ему пистолет Кольт, чтобы Билл смог из него застрелиться.
Brave Browder. Thank you for all you do! I hope American Congress folks will be as brave as you.
'Maybe there's a talk here on asset protection schemes?' .... ouch Bill ouch you cheeky buggah!
Oy vay
Bowder is an excellent speaker! Smart and versed in the russian dealings! Too bad he is put in front of this guy who is utterly annoying and doesn’t seem to be knowing what the hell he is asking.
Bill was great, also impressed with the moderator, appreciate the vid
can feel the tension in the room; seems the shoe fits most. thanks for speaking clearly about the realities on the ground and not sugarcoating to placate.
Bad audio lads
Good answers and good thoughts Dr. Bill .....
This guy is great to listen to. Clearly an intelligent man but then combined with a personal and compulsive commitment for justice for his friend. He probably thinks about ways to achieve justice and change for a bigger portion of his waking hours than most people, so he is definitely a voice to listen to on this.
Well, in Russia and in the West, justice is understood differently
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Read his "Red Notice" and you will see his character - he was very happy and supportive of Russia when he was in on the plunder of national wealth. And that's how he made 95% of his life's money. Once he was cut out of those deals, he started to complain and become righteous... What does that tell you about him?
@@bostjanklemencic That he's a businessman, and like every other human. Nobody is 100%, people change with experiences over a lifetime and there are degrees to crimes. Your rigid judgements are not applicable to the real world
Прислушиваться к проходимцу и негодяю - значит остаться без последних штанов с голой задницей!
The fact that people think this war is going to end is embarrassing
Everything ends eventually. Europe has seen wars last a century but I doubt that Russia will survive as it is for another 5 years and if it starts to fall apart then the war in Ukraine will be over very quickly.
Well one way or another, every war stops eventually.
It will end, even if russia would like to continue to bully its neighbors, ivan
What's embarrassing is believing it will last "forever."
As unsettling as it may be to watch millionaires asking a billionaire questions about geopolitics, one has to find hope in Mr. Browders humanity and compassion. Especially notable is his emphasis on being nations of laws - which reflects both his values and his actions. Considering recent colossal financial sector scandals and bank collapses, we need to remain ever conscious of how our values should inform our actions, and that those actions reflect our values.
Look deeper in the COVID vxx cover-up of shenanigans…
what values? you certainly should've trusted your initial instincts
Both of Bill's books are the most exciting and informative books I've ever read, fiction or non - fiction. Compulsive reading from the get go.
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Thanks for posting. Mr. Browder's long history with finance, Russia and Russia's endemic corruption gives him a unique, detailed perspective on Putin, the oligarchs, sanctions, and proper responses to Putin's war. His efforts to pass the Magnitsky act formed a good baseline for the much more extensive sanctions following the invasion of Ukraine. The most disturbing comment was that about trump, It was bad enough when trump won the 2016 presidency through electoral gerrymandering. But even the thought of him winning in 2024 (it would have to again be via. electoral manipulations, not by the popular vote) is deeply upsetting.
Bill Browder is such an example, I can only support his mission. Thank you for the interview!
Thanks for an excellent interview
Bill Browder is a hero, fighting the good fight against evil.
Oh, no! I am not interested to watch this idiot.
Didn’t this guy take part in asset stripping/selling of national assets at massive knockdown prices?
Did he??
I would like to hear the other side of the story.
He is a very knowledgeable man
I have a friend in St Pete, Ru who says her life has not changed
So what happened to that Oligarch’s money in the Swiss bank? 29:00
They just fired him? What does that mean, they released his money?
Dear Mr Bill Browder,
I admire you and are so proud of the difficult but wonderful tasks you undertake to help get rid of the russian regime and the bad ruskies, and at the same time help the ones in need! Thank You Sir!
a very brave and honourable man
Bill Browded thank you for information
I’ll wait to see.
I admire and respect Bill Browder immensely. I have learned a great deal from him in recent years. I will listen to Robert Amsterdam’s perspective but I already know who I appreciate more.
Thank you very much, Mr. Browder, on behalf of all Ukrainian people. In 2009, I read about Sergey Magnitsky's tragic end of life. Then, I learned about you.
Now, you are helping democracy stay strong. Best wishes to you!
❤🌍🙏🏻🕊️
Thank you Bill,,,a real eye opener….!
Great man !!!
An inspiration.
Wonderful video. It should be broadcast everywhere.
Oh, no! I am not interested to watch this idiot.
Excelent speaker! 👍
Bravo! Klar und deutlich!
Scavenger, chased away from a foreign turf.
Freezing Order is one of the most thrilling and scary books I have ever read !
It portrays a system that is so evil it´s hard to understand such a thing exits today, but it does...
This is why we must never seize to support Ukraine until they have won and we can get them into NATO.
Thank you for the insights, particularly about our government is, and has been complicit.
great man - great interview
Great interview, great answers from Mr Browder. Just wish all the western leaders would watch it.
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The future of Russia after the war is highly dependent upon who ‘wins’ the war.
I don’t think that this question exists at all. Way too much monstrosity and destruction from RuZZia. There is only one winner here and it’s not Pootin and his evil regime!
@@silviadunderdale9400 You are naive. Only one possible winner? . Does Ukraine win if half the country is contaminated with nuclear contamination? . The purpose of Putin’s double is to avoid assassination and escape.
RuZZia will fail, ivan
Russia will never be allowed to win this war because Russia 's victory would bring World War III. The geostrategic goal of Moscow is to rule the whole world, not just to occupy Ukraine and live happily and peacefully ever after. Russia is the Nazi Germany of the 21st century.
Go to bed
Excellent 👍
If he is such a “expert” why was he “surprised” and “caught off gaurd” by the move against Putin?
He can't be expert in others.
Russia has to sell its oil at a large discount due to the EU price cap (irrespective of the country buying). Also, it's not cheap and easy to ship the oil to India and China. So Russia is making only marginal profit out of the oil sales. Their production cost is quite high. It's surprising that Bill didn't mention this.
We in Spain get our bottled butane from Russia or by pipeline from Libya , price in Summer € 15.20 per 32 kg . So far the recent 23 July vote puts the socialist in top place !
Ну насчёт продажи Россией нефти по сниженным ценам, ну тут ты бессовестно врёшь. У российских компаний имеются множество возможностей, чтобы продать нефть с хорошей прибылью. А вообще-то надо поменьше слушать Западных экономистов и политиков. Ибо они родились лгунами, и в могилу ляжут лгунами.
@@tolyamochin4066 Ongea Kiingereza, jamani. Hongera kwa Ukraine!
I never heard of BB before ( my bad) but wow, how educating was that ? Glad we’ve got people like that on our side. I do feel though that the further we live from Russia then the less likely we are to get informed. There are also many companies still doing business with Russia and I think that should be stopped completely, even if it means losing jobs in the west, but we somehow turn a blind eye. Slava Ukraine.
Suggest you read his two autobiographical books - Red Notice and Freezing Order - easy read and page turners.
100% agree with Bill.
I just noticed that Bill Browder and the writer Jonathan Franzen have almost exactly the same voice haha. Love them both.
This man has more moral fibers than a UK textile mill
God bless you Bill...Keep up the fight You (the World) will succeed!
Very interesting, thank you:)
Brilliant!
The interviewer was preoccupied with relativism, while Browder persisted with his focus on what's important. Putin's enablers materially aided and abetted their benefactor's gross transgression.
Bill Browder lost a court case in the UK ,and the judge stated that his testimony was not creditable, ( a legal and overtly nice way of saying he's as liar)
You are a Putin supporter?
@@gibbogle lol 😆 anyone who doesn't buy what this guy sells is a Putin supporter? Yep, must be 100%
@@gibbogle tell that to the judge and jury, your forgetting your history lesson's, the Ukrainian's fought with the NATZIS during WWII, the Ukrainian SS were the most evil of all NATZIS they murdered 98 Brutish prisoners in a barn in France and similar atrocities with Canadian POW's and we mustn't forget the one hundred and thirty thousand polish POW's shot in the back of the head, will we never be done with subsidising Ukrainians and wiping there dirty shity arses, after Chernobyl billion's subsidising the clear up, and now free billions of weapons at the expense of the poor tax payers queuing up at food bank's, thanks for your comment.
Got some links?
Free Julian Assange !!!
Absolutely no regard for the human suffering and near complete demolition of most of Ukraine, when Ukraine could have peace any time..
You mean Ukraine should surrender?
Good to get Stanley Tucci's take on the situation.
Btw i agree with bb. He just looks like stanley tucci.
Lol he's less pretentious than Stanley Tucci, despite being like 30x richer. A lesson for moneyed persons the world over
@@jessewhittemore784 - You personally know Tucci, Jesse? Are you still kayaking?
Excellent comments and perspective from BB, as usual. Courageous man.
Билл Браудер мужественен пока спит, а как просыпается так сразу страхи приходят.
How can you say that there is rule of law in the USA while Julian Assange remains imprisoned?
Listen to this man. Smart thoughts
Corruption is big in the USA also,or do you really live in a bubble?
Sanctions have worked? How much is the ruble worth today?
Yes, the sanctions are working. The ruble is worth less than before, but you should know that the ruble is not trading freely on the on the global exchanges. It's real value is unknown. What we do know is the ruble is in a down-trend. Russia's profit from oil as gas has also slumped due to the sanctions.
I really enjoyed that. What a great man. Feels good
Это вы об Владимире Путине, ну тут я с вами полностью согласен!
@@tolyamochin4066 glad you enjoyed it too! Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
It's so refreshing that Spear's Magazine and the interviewer are completely open and transparent about voicing the concerns of Putin's friends and supporters in Londongrad and The City. Finally someone is sticking up for the folks who've made millions or billions helping out Putin's regime and his cronies.
Те граждане России, которые вывели свои капиталы за границу и там живут, они ни к российской власти, ни к российскому народу никакого отношения не имеют. Так что пусть западные правохоанительные органы отбирают у них все деньги и выбрасывают на улицу из их домов. Российский народ им за это только спасибо скажет.
bring weapons, tell zelensky not to negociate and once all the ukrainians are dead, blame russia. bravo
You think Ukraine should surrender?
@@gibbogle it will end like this anyway. the more they wait the more dead people. time will tell.
because i dont think usa cares about ukrainians, as long as russians Russians are dying... its all about weakens Russia.
Bill is so lucid
Crickets in the audience over at Londongrad magazine for some of these lines about oligarch assets
Brilliant man
Browder is a very, very wealthy financier, not a politician or normal person who suffers with a 30 % increase in power and general inflation of 8-9 %. Saying we should stop Russian supply of gas and oil is fine with him. It’s pocket money impact for him. He needs interviewers who hit him hard with reality.
UK gov offered massive protection against the energy spike that never hit you that hard... Unless your name is Ivan.
what is the price of tolerating Russia's aggression? to not only you and me, the Russian people also.
@@joythought energy prices is one item of hundreds of increased prices of items. Inflation.
Mr. Browder showed a distinct lack of compassion for Russians who are keeping a low profile in these turbulent times. It made me think. Much is said about how Putin has de-politicised the Russian population. This view of things promotes a sense of sympathy regarding the predicament of a people under the authoritarian thumb.
Mr. Browder's take on it struck me. I don't like drawing parallels between Nazi Germany and any modern situation, but sometimes the similarities are too similar to ignore. The Russian people's blind eye vis-a-vis what's happening in Ukraine is identical to German apathy to the holocaust under Hitler!
Do you really compare the scale of the atrocities that were committed by Nazi Germany (and I emphasize that it's not just the Holocaust, even more people were killed on the territory of the USSR) with the conflict, where a little less than 10,000 civilians died in a year and a half?
The courts here are independent lol 😂
Thank you so much, but please take the bottles off the table next time :) Greetings, Andreas