What if Italy FAILED their Invasion of Ethiopia in 1935?
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024
- Wait, pause your Hearts of Iron game and watch this video regarding the Second Italo-Abyssinian war in 1935, where Italy struggled to conquer Ethiopia.
While you may shrug it off as Italy losing wouldn’t change much, I would argue against that, as the government of a certain bald politician would collapse, as a result of this embracing defeat.
This may even lead to a civil war between the loyalists of the king and the ultranationalists. The communists in Italy can also rebel, so it can become a three way civil war.
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By the way the coins said 1936 written in Ge'ez an older form of Amharic. As an Ethiopian they were easy to translate
Oh, this is even better, so they were DURING the war, this is so cool!
@@rewriting-history25 and 10 cents from 1937
Remember, Germans instantly become millionaires after going outside
Hahha nice one! this is a reference from one of my older youtube shorts. I appreciate the 2 pounds, my friend!
@@rewriting-history That is 2 euro
@@rewriting-history Das sind zwei Euros, was zum Teufel ist ein Pohund
@@paulinalevina9690 a pound is £ the currency of the UK and one of the major world reserve currencies.
@@oppionatedindividual8256vereinigtes Königreich? Pffff sind dat nicht die Idioten die aus der EU ausgetreten sind??😂😂 Was ein lachhaftes land😂
“there was an obscure ethiopian rebel state that was 2 km large” … “anyways here’s a coin from them!”
I have coins from so many countries, some don't even exist anymore, which is really interesting
I think Yugoslavia would also take heavy control over the adriatic. In our timeline, the kingdom of Yugoslavia, suffered heavily because Italy basicly owned the Adriatic sea, forcing the Yugoslavs to pay whenever they wanted to use the boats, so together with Italian holdings in the balkans, the Yugoslavs would demand more control over the adriatic.
Good point, it's really possible
Without key ports in the balkans Italy couldn't remain the master of the adriatic, but Yugoslavia couldn't even replace it, because Italy always was military and economicly stronger and still has important ports on the mainland.
For sure Yugoslavia would become fully indipendent, but couldn't dominate the adriatic.
coin collection > Alt history
I'm so glad I got many people interested in coins lol
@@rewriting-history btw how do you get them?
@@rewriting-historyI noticed one mistake in your sealion video - the french coins from 1941 are both from "French state". The old coins were still minted, until in the same year, new coins were issued
You should now do "What if Italy won the 1st Italian-Abysinnian war" to finish the Abyssinian series
Only if this video does well, let us see
@@rewriting-historyoh please so that 🙏🏿
@@rewriting-historyit got half of your total sub count in just 8 hours
It’s doing great
@@rewriting-historyDAWG YOU HAVE TO DO IT PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS VIDEO IDEA
@@rewriting-historyit got more views in 20 hours than your previous video got in 4 days
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As it should be
"What am I? Russia in 2024?"
Lol somebody saw that :D
Key difference, Russia, the biggest country by a landslide, doesn't care that much about its 14000+ sanctions, whilst Italy would self destruct.
@NickAndriadze they do. The sanctions are hurting them a lot.
Let's congratulate this man for bringing us videos with an excellent quality almost every day.👏👏
My guy is back again with a banger
I didn't upload for 4 days tho
I don't think Ethiopia would lose Somalia, as Ethiopia has had a massive Somali population in their east for over 120 years. The added territories might cause mild instability, but there's no reason why they would seek full independence. (and if they did, the whole of Ethiopia would be split in half).
Eritrea much smaller and important to ethiopia fought a indipendence war for over 40 years and won
Somalia barely exist as its own country, under ethiopia i dont see them accepting their rule
I would agree, so they can still lose Eritrea after the fall of communism. Still in this realistic scenario, nothing much would happen
@@rewriting-history how do you think Ethiopia would escape socialism? Do you think it would be through a revolution, a coup or a democratic election?
@@isaacskinner5565 probably a coup, as it's how most countries leave communism
@@fiorino4554 Ethiopia will be in diffrent countries if they try to do something with Somalis
I enjoyed this video a lot. Explaining the tactics used in the war was very entertaining. You always find a way to improve!
I appreciate that, and I will keep finding ways to improve and all that! This is just the beginning, trust me!
I have a friend from Ethiopia while I'm moving to Italy soon, really ironic tbh.
Lol that is so rare
Hope you'll be enjoying your stay 🇮🇹
@@idk-cj8mnplease don’t invade ever again💀
Im not gonna lie its so cool seeing your coins they are just so interesting
I appreciate that! Will show off more!
Bro somehow made Italy military worse
It is possible
@@rewriting-historyPossible history eh eh why’s no one laughing
3:15 our soldiers where Barefoot and used the same rifles as the Italians used; plus some Russian British and French rifles and canons.
Look man, I'm reading online this information, I cannot know everything. My sources must be wrong
@@rewriting-history You Must Diversify Your Sources And Reading Online Is Not Always Good Try Reading Books And Newspapers (Me Thinks)
Amazing video from Bulgarian painter 🎨
Glad you liked it, I also don't paint but sure :D
5:17 actually I did expect
No way
I think the civil war is far fetched, the scenario is really entertaing tho!
The British and the French condemning Italy for invading Ethiopia is also straight up hypocritical, they colonized half the world, but what to expect from the french (the British were against sanctions against Italy at the start, it's France's prime minister's fault.)
The coins look amazing btw lol.
They weren't actively invading any country in 1935 though. Its like saying america is hypocritical for criticising the russian invasion of ukraine because the west of the USA used to be ruled by independent native American tribes whom the USA invaded and cleansed.
@@mappingshaman5280Not cleansed
Simply on extended vacation
Love your content ❤❤❤❤
Appreciate that!
I noticed one mistake in your sealion video - the french coins from 1941 are both from "French state". The old coins were still minted, until in the same year, new coins were issued
One is from the French Republic, the other is from the French State
@@rewriting-historyYeah, but for the 1941 french republican coin, you said, that it was free french while in reality, it was still minted by vichy france and used by them. In the same year, vichy french coins were issued as new design
Day 2 Of Asking What If Serbia Never Unified With The State Of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs
They Would Have Become Medicore Forgotten Nation On The Level Of El Salvador and Guinea-Bissau
Can you please make a separate channel for coin collection? Im way to interested
Knowing about Italian politics at the time (especially as an Italian) I doubt the government would supress churches and other stuff as Gramsci for example converted back to Christianity in the last days of his Life and if I'm not wrong Togliatti was Christian aswell.
Also both of them advocated for laicism but NOT state atheism
Yeah I also think italy can become more socialist, not exactly full blown dictatorial communist. Maybe like Yugoslavia at worst
What if Ethiopia became a russian colony? If I remember correctly, there was a possibility of it happening, it would be funny if it happened.
Could become a nice short, I need to research it
Hey i got an idea for a video "What if Ottoman empire never succeeded in entering Balkans" love your videos ❤
Thanks for the idea! I'm not so good in earlier history, but I have considered it!
One thing to keep in mind. Without Italy, England could use the entire Mediterranean fleet elsewhere.
Nice one, but still it doesn't change the scenario, unless they D-Day
@@rewriting-history so you think Germany could still get Norway?
How do you make these maps? They are cool
Why would Germany start Barbarossa while leaving a communist Italy alone? I think Germany would have invaded after the fall of France.
Leaving a country with an ideology hostile to yours alone is very weird.
Also after a civil war Italy would have been like Spain, too battered to go to war.
How'd you know I was playing Hoi4!
I know my target audience lol
Good day Mr. Rewriting History, I'm ErFatalBoss, a 15 years old boy form Italy. I really like your videos, I see them from December 2023 and I got that idea: would you like to create translations of that beautiful videos in many languages? I would be very happy to hear them in Italian or Bulgarian for example and if you want I can help you translating them (I don't want money if you wanted to know). Would you like to do that? Thanks for reading that :) see you in next videos!
The new map is awesome!
i think i have said this before but man i am jealous of your coin collection
Haha you should be! I still have so much more to show!
this will be good.
edit: what are your expectations for this video in viewers?
'We won last time, so why change now?'
-Famous last words.
Where do you get all your coins from?
Damn I will make a coins video, so many people are interested
sorry if this is a dumb "what if" but what if france and britian declared war on the soviet union when it invaded poland alongside germany?
my guess is a three-way war, no way in christ hitler would purposefully align himself with the soviet union
Possible History already made it, so I will wait it out a bit before I give you my take
7:27 it say's 1948 not 1946?
Yes, I mispronounced, so it's 3 years after the Second World War, not 1
@@rewriting-history understandable mistake i'd probably make it to
Recommendation : what if boxer rebellion succeeded
Day 3
I already made such a video, it's on the AHTV platform, so subscribe there if that interests you! armchairhistory.tv/
@@rewriting-history ok
I think that if Italy lost in the non-communist route, it would still change things significantly as Mussolini would either be dismissed in favour of a conservative democrat, or he'd start another war he would lose. Probably against Greece. Only, this early on there is not going to be any help from Germany, and Britain would be succesful in aiding the Greeks and push Italy out of Albania. They would lose all their colonies, and Mussolini would be even more hated.
A neutral Italy would not force the British to focus on North Africa, and Greece might be amenable to stationing British bombers in their country that could be used to threaten Romanian oil fields. Without any oil from North Africa or Romania, Hitler's campaign against the Soviet Union would be in jeopardy and he would have to postpone it to invade Greece. Only in this timeline, the British and Greeks are in position to stop or slow Germany down, and even if they're overrun on the mainland, an orderly retreat and greater focus on the Greek theatre would allow the Allies to hold on to many islands from which to bomb Romania.
With oil rapidly running out and the timetable for Operation Barbarossa pushed back, the Germans would either hastily launch their invasion and be less succesful, or it would be pushed back to spring 1942, at which point the end of Soviet purges and rearmament process would make the German invasion much more difficult. They might not reach Stalingrad this time before the tide begins to turn.
With control of the Aegean Sea, Churchill's obsession with the 'soft underbelly' of Europe would be more pronounced, but the commitment to Greek liberation would mean a Balkan front is certain. Bulgaria would do everything it can to make it clear they are not helping Germany, and switch to the Allies the moment it seems the Soviets might strike into Romania, betting on the British and Americans to prevent a communist takeover. Fighting in Yugoslavia would be slow, due to the mountains, but the activity of the partisans would undermine Germany, which would have no fuel left at that point. The Allies would race north to cut as much of Europe off from the Soviet counter-attack, while the Soviets try to push westwards as far as they can.
The end of the war would see the Iron Curtain pushed back significantly further east in at least the Balkans, and the Soviet Union far less secure. With the Cold War more in favour of NATO. And just because Mussolini decided to be a loser against Ethiopia.
I don't think Hungary would've joined the war against the soviet without the invasion of Yugoslavia, as the prime minister commited suicide because of that war(He was against Germany).
I didn't try to be realistic, but you make a good point
A underdevelopted nation become communist = a red world
This is why i love unrealistic scenarios
Yeah you just cannot expect my next step
What If The Americas were never colonized
What map source do you use?
I used Mapchart and drew on top of it. You can join my discord and get all of my maps
@@rewriting-history Thank you.
@@rewriting-historyAlso do you have a second channel? Im not talking about Rewriting-history coins but a completely different name but has the same voice and map style as you.
But I thought Germany invading the USSR without wasting time in Italy's Balkan adventure could lead to their victory?
The map for the Molotov ribbentrop pact is still wrong lublice was soviet
I'm glad I had such a minor mistake lol
@@rewriting-history if it's a minors mistake it means you're getting better at spotting mistakes
Dude I can't help but ask:Where are you getting these coins?
From Bulgarian Ebay - BalkanAuction and Bazar.bg
0:57 they also sent anti-air weapons, pak canons, 3 air planes, and military advisors.
Vielen dank Deutschland
This is useful to know!
As a Sicilian i think that if italy went in a civilwar then the evis in sicily would have declared the sicilian republic and would have fought against the italian monarchy and would have declared a free republic and since the ideology was kinda socialist maybe they would have made an agreement with the italian comunists and made sicily free but neutral or sicily would have been invaded again and reintegrated
That would be cool, but doesn't help the communists win, which is what made the video more interesting
I have 2 proposal for alternerà HISTORY videos:
1-What if Italy and the ottomans switched sides in ww1 but the Entente still wins(central Powers Italy and Entente Ottoman)
2-What if Italy was divided in a Socialist North(a republic with only LEFT parties) and a monarco-Tecnicrathic SOUTH(There Is a king,a prime minister and the pope that shares Powers)After the king doesn't give Mussolini the Powers
(I'm Italian so please forgive me if i have done some English errors)
Can watch this on repeat
That's the biggest compliment, I appreciate that!
7k views in 6 hours?
Fell off!!
Nah im good
Its funny that cause of ethiopia becoming communist and winning a war that theres now a possibility of a communist world 😂
This unrealistic detail makes the video 10 times more interesting
I think italian communism would be more accepting of relligiosity but still have some interesting theological divergences
Italy and communism don't work well together
@@rewriting-history i disagree but it'd be a strange and interesting mix. Definitely a lot of "socialism with italian characteristics"
I was in fact playing hoi4
And I stopped you lol
Ever since Josh's video on realistic althist and stuff, I've noticed in your videos that you keep putting many disclaimers saying that "This scenario is unrealistic"
I feel that's kinda redundant and a bit unnessecary at this point
You just leave 1 disclaimer at the beginning and it would all be good! Regardless, you shouldn't worry about if your scenarios are realistic too much, most of us don't really care
Other than that great video!
Well I used to do 1 disclaimer but people somehow missed it on mass, so I decided to do many. I just don't want to mislead people to think I'm being for real or whatever. As I said, the realistic outcome of this scenario is quite boring and can make for a good RUclips Short.
@@rewriting-history Understandable
Why dont you make a "What if the Bavarian SSR?"
Good luck for you!
Appreciate that!
They would loose Ogaden
Yeah most likely
Bro has every coin😂❤ also can u show MORE coins or make a video about all of ur coins
I do have a lot of coins that you haven't seen! Making a video where I show them all could ruin the magic of me showing a unique coin every time on a video. I am considering a livestream where I do that
@@rewriting-history oh ok i didnt think about that
0:00 sry i cant i bought a dlc but il watch while i play
What if Derg happened 3 decades early instead of 1970s?
how did you know i was playing hoi4
I know my target avatar/audience
the scary part is that i was playing ethiopia but i was getting pushed on both fronts
this can be recreated using HOI4... To some extent
I didn't intend for that, but it would be cool if it can be
@@rewriting-history Ethiopia has a communist tree
and if Italy fails certain "missions" in Ethiopia they can access their own communist tree
*17:23* By the way, with USSR getting all of Germany, I doubt they'd mutilate its borders like they did in our own timeline. Maybe annex the Polish-speaking regions of Germany into Poland, but not much else.
So the world would be worse(according to the unrealiatic route at least)
New video let's goooooooooooooo
Based new vid
@@rewriting-history agreed 👍
@@rewriting-history are you also subscribed to this guy?
you gave me motivation to play hoi4 lmao
I did it! Hope you have fun!
When I saw the map I said “ red world?” lol
And you were right!
I have a question
Why did Bosnia become part of Austria-Hungary after they revoltred and what if they did actually stay independent
Legend says history is rewritten by victors they’re no country called Ethiopia 🇪🇹in 19th century except Britain colony.
What if Marathas defeated Britain in 2nd and third anglo maratha war?
Day 1
7:25 The year on the coin says 1948, not 1946.
Pause my hoi4 game? God damn it.
Gottem
Nice coins collection bro 👍 but also Norway will communist right
Glad you liked it! I don't know about Norway tho
How do you have so many coins from so many time periods! Tell me your secrets to gaining these!
Step 1: Have money
Step 2: Buy coins
@@rewriting-history ah
Why is Ethiopia's borders different?
They were like that?
Suggestion: what if the 1826 Congress of panama succeeded in uniting the entire americas? (Yes even the united states was invited) how would the British and other European empires react to such a massive country forming? I think that could be interesting albeit pretty unrealistic
What if sweden regained Finland after the Napoleonic wars
In my opinion they kind of did being superior in size and weapons although geography did play a part in it
Large Ethiopia looks nice
It does!
I love etiopia ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Tutorial of Hearts of Iron 4 be like:
Mate I was JUST about to hop on HOI4
Glad I stopped you with the best call to action :D
Video Idea: what if turkey and iran join the axis, that means that germany could stop uk and ussr from occupying iran and even could attack ussr from that side getting the oil rich Caucasus and middle asia which could make ussr have oil shortages.
10:29 Never say "Cooking up" ever bro 💀🙏
no
@@rewriting-history just "no", what a chad
+
“No”🗿
What’s your favourite coin ?
Discounting the north african front? Both britain and germany would have more men and equipment on land for barbarossa and the italian campgain
No I won’t Pause my hearts of iron 4 game 0:00 and I will keep on playing my hearts of iron 4 till midnight next week lol
This is so sad I hate communism but I love how interesting it is 😂
I don't like communism either, I am from Bulgaria, a former Eastern Bloc country. The scenario became really interesting with that, however.
!8ball is Palpatine the G.O.A.T
I love your videos, but can you make a russian channal? I understand english but, its will be better if you make russian videos, also you will have a New auditory
I'm Bulgarian, not Russian tho :D
@@rewriting-history ok, but you can Hire a narrator
At the end, you forgot that Germans originally planned to invade USSR a month earlier, but were disrupted by Balkan Campaign, so they'd have a better outcome after Barbarossa (or even a complete succes), thanks to additional month before winter
Complete success won't be possible, but I should have mentioned there would be early war
@@rewriting-history I agree, but it depends mostly on Soviet morale and a hit given to Soviet administration after, possible in such a case, fall of Moscow
I don't know if anime's noticing about the Russia didn't exist.It was the Soviet Union, not Russia.The soviet union make up your mind go back to school
Cool
Average non-historical hoi4 game
really fun scenario but was there any actual justification why italy would be "dictatorial"? I would argue that the communist revolution would be mixed with demands for democracy, especially if they are fighting autocratic monarchists in the south.
Yeah I don't rule it out, they can be mostly socialist, not brutal communists.
Why does bro have so many coins😭🙏
Plis what if roman empire never collapse plis
Trust me ethiopia would hate to occupide somalia