1958 Evinrude Fisherman 5.5hp Outboard Motor
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2017
- First time on the water with thus one after new points, condensers, plugs, wires, one coil, carb cleaning, fuel lines, and a new impeller. This is a VERY low hour motor and once the kinks were worked out, it runs beautifully. Like a new one 59 years later. Great runner and a pretty nice looking original.
I recently been snatching up all the classic outboards on FB marketplace in Portland, OR. Usually find them for a hundo. Not the highest performance, but they got style.
They definitely have style. Depending upon the motor, sometimes the performance isn't so bad either. The small motors typically aren't going to get you anywhere fast, but even the old 10hp motors will get you on plane and push you along at a very respectable pace. They're very comparable in performance to a modern 9.9. Thanks for watching!
We had one similar and I can still remember the day my Dad let me control the little Jon boat down Bayou Cortableau in St. Landry Parish in Louisiana. The 5 HP Evinrude was purring like a happy kitty. What a great day! Thanks for posting this video.
Great story and I'm sure you felt like you were on top of the world that day.👍 These are great little motors, especially when they aren't worn out. Thanks for watching!
WOW!!!!!! What a motor. A true beauty. Runs real nice ben.
Dave Skoczynski Thanks Dave! I'm very happy to have this one in my collection. It's mechanically or actually new and still pretty nice cosmetically. It turned out really nice, even though it threw me a curveball or two on the way. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for doing what you do ! Keep them alive ! :)
PRACERZ Thank you for watching! I'll keep keeping them alive.
Yes, that is one sweet running motor. Quality built back then. I have my Dad's 18hp Johnson, in the shed, Dad borrowed that motor to everyone who asked. At times it came back broken down, he never said to much, just repaired it and we took it with us to Canada fishing. Fond memories hearing yours run.
I have a few 5.5s that really run great and are a pleasure to run. This is one of them. The 18s are my favorite. The fact you have your dad's is great. I wish I had my dad's '58 Johnson 35hp from when I was a kid. Lots of memories there. Thanks for watching!
I'm building a 58 5.5 just like yours at the moment. Bought it with water in the cylinders but finally found a new powerhead for it. The rest of it is in beautiful shape and I have about $350 in new gaskets, carb rebuild kit, water pump, and various other parts. Your video was great. It gave me a great reference on expectations and proformance. And they're great little outboards to boot. Great video, 2 thumbs up.
Thank you! Thanks for watching! Good luck with your motor!
Love your channel mate. Love from Australia
Thank you so much! Thanks for watching!
That is one sweet motor! I think Ben should do a few full videos of the service that's performed. Good job!
Thank you. I did a full series of videos of tuning up my 1959 Evinrude Fastwin Electric Start. Benn Dittmar did an excellent full length video on a 1955 Johnson CD-12 5.5hp on his Chrysleroutboarddude channel. I figured his kind of negated the need for me to do one since it was probably done better than my series. Maybe someday I'll get better at video editing and have better equipment for doing how-to's. Thanks for watching!
In my own backyard. Beautiful motor, have a Lightwin same year.
Thank you. I have a few Lightwins, but not a '58. I have a couple I need to get on the lake this year. Thanks for watching!!
Yes Sir, a fine Blueboy!!
love to own that one!
Thank you! This is one of my favorite 5.5s in my collection. It is a joy to run. Thanks for watching!
Ooooh. Wow is that a beautiful motor. I like the look of the 58 even better than the 59! Man does that motor run like new. Just purrs. Great job Ben.
billrok Thanks Bill! Yes, this one is a beauty. I am.amazed at how little runnimg time this engine has. It was a bit of a challenge to get it back to right. I did not suspect a bad coil as it was a very nice looking Prufrex. I replaced it with a good used OMC coil and everything was back to normal woth the spark. I also got a bad set of OMC points in the tune up kit I put in this one. I'll be able to bend them a little and make them work, but I polished up a good used set and the adjustment problem end away. After that I was dialing in the carb and the rest is history. It's as close to brand new as any 50s 5.5 I have ever had or seen. Thanks for watching!
What a beauty! Must have low hours, plenty of pep for sure
This one is a nice one. It's one of my 5.5s that I really enjoy running. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 One of my favorites for sure
I'm in Scotland have two jonnyrudes the older ones a 75hp that I tuned (bigger coils & HTs, carb work and home made intake) it's easily at 85hp at the prop on a 1978 mayland 14ft fishing boat weighing 228kg it does 55+mph cruises at 36-38 70% best fuel economy while tramping and is one of the most terrifying boats I've ever been on nevermind built or owned. Anything over 90% throttle once it's on plane is just silly. It reels in all but the 300hp jetskis or proper speed boats and just eats anything thats designed for 40-50knot like they are nothing. It catches older skis about 40mph and I think I've done over 60knot on loch lomond full throttle on the calm days. I know the hull was a copy of Vospa MTB from ww2 and I know it was the same guys who built the actual huge Motor Torpedo Boat but I don't know the limit of the boat so I don't push too far, my fear is that it bursts a seam around the cuddy of I hit too big a wave above about 50. I'm just not sure but if I knew the boat could take it I would happily give it full stick everywhere and just book more dentist appointments.
I had the same engine, same year a real beauty.
Great little motors for sure. Thanks for watching!
Definitely the prettiest Evinrude in the 1950S in my opinion was 1958.Last year of the aluminum covers then to fiberglass in 1959.That motor looks alsmost new.I guess you got to expect a few scratches for its age.That motor will outlive most of us,LOLL.Need parts let me know I am a outboard mechanic and collector with around 200 old Evinrude and Johnsons and others going back to the early 1950s. Glenn in New York
GPALL52 In am quite fond of the 1958 Evinrude also. I do expect.a few scratches when a motor gets to be as old as thus one is getting. It is mechanically nearly new, and it shows when I run it. It is a beautiful runner and a good performer for a 5.5. It's a keeper for sure. Thank you for letting me know you have lots of parts. I'll keep you in mind. I have accumulated a pretty fair number of motors over the last few years too. Most of them are classic OMCs. There is often something I'm looking for. Thanks for watching.
Great little engine. Nice video.
Thank you. This is one of my really nice 5.5s and it is a pleasure to run. Thanks for watching!
Thats a pretty motor and it sounds good... and hey its older than mine and has reverse and neutral lol little jealous
This one is a sweetheart. Definitely one of the 5.5s I have that I'll hold on to. It is super low hours and runs perfectly. The OMC 5.5hp had full gearshift starting in 1954 with their introduction. The '53 was a 5hp and only had a neutral clutch. They're great little fishing motors and will happily troll for hours. Thanks for watching!
Now your talking my kind of motor like new nice find
Outboard Fun Thanks Scott! Yes, this is one if the shining stars in my collection. After doing all the mechanical it runs like a brand new one and it looks pretty good too. More scratches on the back of the cowl than I'd like, but it still looks good. Thanks for watching!
Be still my heart!
kramden She's a sweetie! Too bad it's got the scars it has. It's like a new one mechanically and it still looks pretty dang nice.
What a beauty! Thanks f. sharing!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Nice job!! I have a 1956 7.5hp
Thank you! I have a 56 7.5hp Fleetwin also. It's a nice runner as well. One of the better 7.5s I have had. Thanks for watching!
A thing of beauty!!!
This is a pretty sweet one. Thank you and thanks for watching!
Just got one today and it is clean and runs nice .Previous owner put in impellor and full tune up so no worries
oldmustang 1969 Nice!! They are really wonderful little motors. Make sure and not skimp on the oil in the mix. These are supposed to run on 16:1. Enjoy your motor and thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404... I live in Ida Michigan. Do you also work on Old outboard motors for other people ? I'm out around Irish Hills quite a bit. Great videos.....thx matt
@@TheMatt4840 I occasionally work on motors for others. It depends on what it is and how busy I am. Let me know what you have and what it's doing or if it just needs routine maintenance. I have quite a few projects lined up right now and 2 of them are for other people.
You could watch the prop spin at idle.
Yes, you sure can! Thanks for watching!
Picked up my very own 1958 Fisherman 5.5hp yesterday! Ran it in the tank and it ran well. Took it out on the water to see how it pushed the boat. After about 5 min it started to squeal. I shut it down and checked it out. Not overly hot (able to touch it) and nothing looked out of place or wrong. I paddled in after that. I run a 1:16 mix. It did have some old fuel in the tank. But not much. Thoughts?
what a beauty!!!
Thank you! It is a very nice original minus the paint damage on the rear of the cowl. It is a very low hour motor that runs great. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Well, you will rarely find an older engine that is absolutely mint. I had a 58 35 HP electric start/electric choke very similar to that on my 1958 wooden "Skipper Craft" boat. I honestly regret selling it, but your video brought back great memories...
@@DONphantasmo That is very true. Not many left that are mint. This one is still nice but I don't mind using it, so it's probably anyway.
And she is a strong runner also...
kramden Yes, this one is strong. I want to run it on my Sea Nymph 14R this season to see what it will do. My 64 Fisherman gets 11mph on that boat. It's the fastest speed I have achieved with a 5.5 so far. This one seems really strong and the FD is a slower hull with lower HP motors.
Purs like a kitten Jim. 👍
Thanks for watching!
I have this exact motor, however the fuel lines and connectors were lost, do you know where I can new ones?
I use 3/16" rubber fuel line from the local auto parts store. The correct size is actually 5/32" and while that does work a little better and doesn't require much of a clamp to hold them, I use 3/16" and the hose clamp style zip ties and don't have any problems with leaks. As far as the fitting for the motor side, look on ebay for the seal line pressure tank style motor side fitting. If you have the pressure tank with a fitting already, you're all set. If the tank fitting leaks, they can be rebuilt with new o-rings. Thanks for watching!
Hi i just baught me 2 50s and was wondering if you no where i could buy the fuil line conection for this motors
Are you looking for the connector that goes on the tank or the one that fits on the motor? These motors use the 2-line pressure tank fuel system. If.you buy a working 2-line tank, it should have the tank side fitting attached to the hose. The hose doesn't detach from a pressure tank like the single line suction tanks do. Thanks for watching!
that one would look good sitting next to my 58 ten horse
Ron Baker Actually, I thought your ten would look good between this one and my 18.;-)
It would look even better next to mine..
chrysleroutboarddude Yup, your 10 would look really good sitting between this one and my 18! ;-P That 10 of yours is a sweet one!
No no no the other way around. Silly.
chrysleroutboarddude I like it better my way... :-)
Do you ever seem to have issues with plug fouling running these at 24:1? Mine seems to foul plugs if I idle for too long. I know eventually oil fouling is inevitable but it just seems I happen too quick. I’m using synthetic tcw3 and the plugs were new 3 years ago but I’ve cleaned them since. The condensers are still original tho, could that contribute? Thanks
No. I don't have spark plug fouling issues with TCW-3 oil all the way to 8:1 mix ratio. Excessive fuel innthe fuel / air mixture fouls plugs much more efficiently than the oil in the mix. If you are fouling spark plugs while idling, I'm thinking your low speed circuit is set too rich. It takes a long time idling to get the spark plugs to foul out from oil if the fuel / air mixture is correct. Bad condensers can certainly make for a weak spark condition which may lose its ability to fire through even a light coating of oil on the plugs. I would replace the condensers, clean and adjust the points, and dial in the low speed. I have a video on this channel explaining how to dial in the carburetor if you're not sure how to do that. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the quick reply! That’s what I’ve been suspecting is that these motors should idle for hours before fouling. I’ve got the carb as lean as I can get without sneezing so I’ll try the condensers like you say and readjust the points.
Ps always enjoy watching your videos and that motor is in gorgeous condition!
@@joeblo4306 Yes, you should get hours of trolling time ot of these motors without plug fouling if they are properly tuned. Condensers are worth checking/replacing if they are in question. If you cannot achieve a slow and steady idle without lean sneezing or fouling spark plugs, you may want to check your link and sync. It may be bringing the carburetor in too early. The notch on the throttle cam should be in the center of the cam roller for the carburetor at the moment all.the slack in the carburetor linkage is taken up and the actual throttle valve (butterfly) begins to move. If it is already set that way, try to delay the pickup of the carburetor to around 1/4" past the mark. I hope this helps.
Sounds good I’ll give that a try too! I changed the condensers and gave it a run. It actually idles pretty good but as soon as I rev it up past 1/3 throttle it seems to have trouble deciding between 1 and both cylinders... and then at higher throttle settings it runs smoothly. Might be plug wires... only thing left to change. Also does the stator on yours have a little play in it at all? And are you running champion J4Cs in that? Thanks
@@joeblo4306 I would definitely recommend replacing the spark plug wires. It sounds like a bad connection at one end or the other on one of the plug wires. It could also be contacting sometime and shorting to ground part way through the rotation of the mag plate. That is often the issue when one cylinder cuts out at certain throttle positions. You may try running the motor innthe dark with the cover off too. Sometimes the issue will show up as a visible spark in the dark. I'm not sure now if I put J4C or J6C plugs in this motor. I'm sure it has one or the other in it. I use J6C plugs in most of my OMC magneto motors, other than the ones that I run hard at full throttle a lot. I usually opt for J4C in those.
I just purchased one of these.
It says to mix 1 pint of oil per gallon of gas. That is a 16:1 ratio. Isn't that a little high?
No, it's correct. This is a 16:1 mix motor. It is a bushing powerhead with no rolling bearings. They need the oil. They're great little motors and they run very quiet and smoothly. Lots of them have been ruined by too little oil though. With a good modern fully synthetic TCW3 outboard oil you may be able to cheat it a little drier, say 24:1, but I recommend sticking with the factory ratio for best results and longest engine life. Thanks for watching!
And Hi Octane Gas .
@@carvinlambert6899 Hi octane isn't really necessary, but if premium is all that is available without ethanol, then use it. 87 octane regular is plenty high for these engines. They are fairly low compression. I have seen ethanol do things that we don't want to see though. Thanks for watching!
Where do you get the parts for your motors
The consumable parts I usually buy from Marineengine.com, Vintageoutboards.com, iboats.com, etc. My closest Evinrude dealer is 30-40 minutes away the opposite direction from work and is never open when I can get there. The non-consumables I usually source from club meets by buying either individual parts, boxes of parts, or parts motors from other club members. I occasionally find what I need on EBAY or locally on Craigslist or something like that. Thanks for watching!
How Much does it cost for all these replacement parts?
Usually between $70 and $180 for tune up parts and seals depending on what parts have to be replaced. Sometimes other things need to be replaced too. Cost varies but I buy spare parts when I can find them cheap. To replace many of the non-consumables is cost prohibitive to buy new even if they are still available. I have been building parts inventory to fix my own motors since I got into the hobby. Thanks for watching!
What do you use for the fuel feed to the motor? I noticed on your 1960 you had a regulator of some sort
The 1960 has a fuel pump. I was running it with an adapter off of my pressure tank. You were seeing my single line adapter for my dual line pressure tank. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I have the same motor! I have a tank with 2 lines air and fuel. The motor will start but won’t stay running without me babying the throttle. Does the tank need to be pressured?
@@billyho5993 which motor do you have? The 1960 Fastwin? The '60 is the first year for the single line with a fuel pump on the motor. If you're using a 2-line pressure tank on a motor with a pump, the tank does not need to be pressurized, it would need to be vented. The fitting is different for the pressure tank, so I'm unclear as to what you have?
What nice motors Evinrude/Johnson made. I just picked me up a 1957 Evinrude 5.5hp but I have had conflicting answers on the oil/gas mixture. The guy that sold it said 24:1 yet others say 14:1 What is your recommendation?
Thanks, highly enjoy your videos
Yes, they made very nice motors. It is a shame they are not still building them today. The 5.5hp OMC motors were 16:1 mix motors from their debut in 1954 until 1960. In 1961 they went to 24:1 with needle bearings on the crank journals until 1964 where they changed the mix ratio across the board to 50:1 (except for the 3hp). Yours is a 16:1 motor. It will thank you for running plenty of oil in the mix. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks you for your thoughts. Highly appreciated
@@seniorLu48 You are very welcome.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 my '67 Johnson 3hp owners manual says 50 to 1 with the new Johnson 2 stroke oil.
@@brianchisnell1548 That is true. 1964 was the year they changed the recommended mix ratio on their motors to 50:1. Some had internal changes that made this possible, some were already able to handle it amd others just got changed. The 3hp is a plain bearing powerhead with no needles or rollers at all. I never run any of my 3hps on less oil than 24:1 and if they have an adjustable high speed needle, I use 16:1 and tune accordingly. Thanks for watching!
Does this motor throttle off a roller?
Yes, the throttle arm has a roller that rides the cam on the magneto plate to open the throttle as the timing advances. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 thanks. Thought so. Mine is apparently missing.
@@DiabolicalDesigns You're welcome. You are not getting anywhere close to full throttle opening without the roller, obviously. I have seen those turn up missing because the little E-clip had failed or gotten lost of the roller arm.
Yeah, I'm going to have to order one. For now...I have fishing string tied to it with a handle lol.
@@DiabolicalDesigns I guess that works till you get one, but you need to replace it. You'll like the motor a lot more with that fixed.
Keep this little beauty for yourself....Or, sell it to me....
kramden I think this one will be in my collection for a long time Don. I'm working on the series of 58 Johnsons and Evinrudes from 3 to 18hp. I'd go to 35, but I probably already have enough larger motors.