Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves - 100% Spoiler-Free Review
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I played and DM'd D&D 1980-1985. Had a blast. One of my fave characters was a tongue in cheek, overly top lawfully good Paladin named Persh of Noy who pissed off my friends but in a fun, eye rolling way. It was a ton of fun. We were mostly into Conan type action with Gothic horror thrown in. You're making me D&D nostalgic. 😉 I appreciate your 3 part review for different audiences. Great idea.
This film feels like the unofficial sequel to Your Highness starring Natalie Portman and Danny McBride.
Good call! It's a little more franchise driven but definitely going for a very light tone.
Are you going to have any more words about The Mandalorian season 3?
Tough to say. I've only seen the first two episodes and from what I hear the season is getting a little silly. Is it worth to dive back in?
Loved the movie!
Friends have bought me a ticket for next weekend.
I am not thrilled to hear that it is geared towards 5th Edition (yuck!) and Forgotten Realms.
Understandable since the modern audience doesn't know quality AD&D in the Greyhawk setting (or as a runner-up, Edition 3.5) but it makes me think the film will be dumbed down like the 4th & 5th Edition game mechanics.
Speaking of Greyhawk, last year I ran a giant 1st edition Greyhawk campaign and ran my players through 6 published modules from the early Eighties. We had a blast.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Excellent.
There is a lot of role-play opportunity when working with such a well-established & detailed world.
There was also some fun back in the day when Ravenloft was just an adventure module. Then a second module. Then it became the name of a demi-plane.
I'm glad you enjoyed the movie. I LOVED every second of it.
I've played D&D since the red box and I always point to the first 3 Lord of the Rings movies (minus the annoying hobbits) as the best gateway drug to our hobby.
For me it was all those early Eighties sword & sorcery movies like Beastmaster, Excalibur, Conan and Dragonslayer. Great time to be a young fantasy fan.
What is it with reviewers feeling the need to pander to the "anti-woke" brigade? You realise that you're doing something worse than what you think you're "protesting" against and that most of that doesn't even exist and it's getting kinda pathetic. The kinda person that goes into meltdown about a director quipping about "we like emasculating the lead..." as a bit of a not-so-modern subversion of the heroic trope is really just way too precious and more than a little sad.
It's a fun, D&D faithful, quality romp and Rodrigues completely kicks butt. This is proper 80's era nostalgia cinema with a modern take unlike the cringe of Top Gun: Maverick which really did pander to a certain dinosaur audience.
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It's the best, lol. I would never advertise a product that I would not personally use.
I really appreciated your 3-in-1 review for this. Very fair approach. Thank you!
Thanks! It was the only way I could figure how to wrap my brain around how this flick will appeal to different audiences in different ways.
He’s deserved at least his 30k Subscribers for a long time now.
lol, thanks James! From time to time I wonder what I should to lure in more viewers but I think I just need to be a lot more consistent in cranking out more content.
Nope. I'm an 80s fantasy fan, David Eddings, David Gemmell etc. Never played D&D but loved the 80s cartoon as a kid... Heard they kill their lookalikes in this movie... After the comments from the director about emasculating the guys, even if they don't do it in the film the thought is there... Nah. I'm so sick of Hollywood so have zero interest in this.
(I'm a woman BTW, not that it should matter, but nowadays it does)
I read a crapton of D&D books across all the Campaign Settings in the early 90s, and there was a ton of light, breezy adventures that were not to be taken too seriously. Spellfire, Curse of the Azure Bonds, any of the Dragonlance books centering around the more comedic characters. Certainly there was more grim content as well (like Cyric brutally murdering his way on the way to Godhood in the Avatar Trilogy) but if anyone is claiming the tone of Honor Among Thieves is new to Forgotten Realms then they either missed large swaths of the fiction that was put out thirty years ago, or are just choosing to remember things differently.
I actually loved this movie. It was a fun time at the movies and perfect to watch with a big crowd. I laughed a lot and the end was epic and these days its hard to get any kind of a good movie especially being soooo disappointed with last weeks Shazam!2. Definitely gonna rewatch movie again. 😊
I've been playing D&D since TSR's 2nd ed AD&D. I hated the Vox Machina show (couldn't get all the way through the first season) and couldn't for the life of me understand why it was so popular. If that is a better D&D adaptation than Honor Among Thieves, then it looks like a skip from me.
High five to a fellow 2nd edition fan. I ran a 1st edition campaign last year, but I've invested far more time into 2nd edition than other other. As far as Vox Machina goes, it's definitely got niche appeal at best but for whatever reason it makes me laugh. Also I have a crush on Laura Bailey.
I pretty much agree with your reviews. I went in with low expectations and had a good time. But I am tired of all the meta jokes about how ridiculous everything is in comic book and fantasy movies.
Wouldn't have been easier to say "Watching a cocky jerk get knocked down a peg is always fun in a movie"? Or am I the only one who saw the first Die Hard
When I was younger I wished someone would make a live action version of the D&D cartoon from the 80s. Still waiting.
I was obsessed back in the day. I think I was 6 when it first aired and it knocked me flat.
One of my all time favorite cartoons. I still watch it on my Plex account
Just saw it today, and was surprised by how much I liked it. I’ve got an expansive taste in fantasy, so while I love Howard and Bakker and other dark stuff, this has its own place. If it’s going to have to be 4-quadrant fantasy, at least they did it well. And I agree, never heard of Rege-Jean Page but he steals the show.
I foresee a lot of new players rolling up Paladins when they get their first chance to play the game.
The line wasn't taken out of context. It may well be poorly phrased, but the context that he said it in is exactly how it was presented.
You saw Conan in the theater at age five? Well, that explains a few things, James! 🤘😝🤘
I was the beneficiary of some quality parenting, lol.
Dragonslayer (1981) is probably my favourite D&D type movie.
After all these years it's surprising that the Robert E Howard stories have not been seen on the big screen.
Dragonslayer holds up so well. Tackled it on my podcast last year: wrongreel.com/podcast/wr610-five-fantasy-freaks-slain-by-dragonslayer-1981/
Robert E Howard movies: Conan the Barbarian (3 movies); Kull the Conquerer; Red Sonja (not really REH but attributed to him); Solomon Kane.
There have also been TV shows: Thriller Theater (Pigeons from Hell); Conan the Adventurer (Cartoon) and Conan the Barbarian (live action TV series).
The best D&D movie, without the D&D label on it, is Hawk the Slayer.
@Geekin' with James Hancock When it comes to the universe, I've only played Neverwinter Nighs 2 on PC, but I LOVED it. More accurate to the flavor of the modules?
Loved Neverwinter Nights 2. Played it through several times. That definitely feels more like classic Forgotten Realms. This movie is definitely going for its own thing, much more mainstream, and will probably be much more successful as a result.
The scene with the zombie that will answer 5 questions, was brilliantly funny.
But…..the trailer looked pretty crap.
The 5 question scene is definitely a highlight but the paladin character is even funnier.
Ah, 2nd Ed Dark Sun. Still my fav setting and era. How can you not love cannibalistic halflings!
It's my favorite campaign setting. Best combination of new races, classes and advanced being options. Brom is a god.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Brom's illustrations are amazing - totally set the tone and vibe. I love how it's got that great touch of 'Barsoom'. Some really great fantasy lineage lurking in the setting.
Just to Clear the record, No one is emasculated in this Film. It’s mean to be Heist Movie and it’s a great film!
Boys with really tiny micropenises were emasculated when watching this film.
its not going to do well, released between released between Wick and Mario, also the directors said they went out of their way to emasculate the males in the film, everyone wants more of that lol
The director was a moron for making those comments. I address them at the 02:42 mark.
I really appreciate the first review. I was wondering whether to take my kids to this. I’ll do it as soon as I can!
Totally. There's nothing in this movie that exceeds anything you might see in any of the major PG-13 franchises. But when your kids are ready, bring on 'Conan the Barbarian'.
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. I honestly thought it would be terrible after seeing the trailers but I loved seeing Neverwinter, I loved the mentions of forgotten realms lore. Now give us what we really need!!!! An R rated Menzoberranzan series, a Ravenloft series with Strahd (Jander Sunstar is a must) and a post apocalyptic nightmare based in Darksun. Gives us talented directors and a wonderful, but not necessarily famous cast. Hire the best writers on the planet and you will have something that will surpass Marvel.
I'm still perplexed by everyone having their normal hair they arrived on set with. I think that ties in with James's feeling things could get meta at any moment. There's a slight, but deliberate, distancing going on like the producers were afraid to commit to sincerity. Or that an earlier version of the script had the 'real people sucked into a game of d&d' angle.
Good call on the lack of sincerity. That's one of the main reasons why I think the movie fails as a pure fantasy movie, but I totally understand why folks are responding to and enjoying the overall light hearted tone.
I was put off by their realistic hairstyles when watching the trailer, but after just minutes into the film, I was sucked into a D&D world, so yeah, not really.
People have such a fixed, rigid perception of a "masculine" character. This guy doesn't have powers but is confident in his role, leads a group of powerful characters, leads the into battle and comes out victorious, and participates in battle where he can. He's not emasculated, and people's idea of masculinity needs to be updated.
I like the movie but you have to remember its a PG fantasy movie , so no blood ect. As a old D&D I enjoyed the fan tidbits. I only bit that was a bit stupid was the bard fighting with the music instrument. One of the few movie I want to get as a blu-ray to rewatch in detail :)
I think i'm gona pass on Guardians of the Dungeon.
Totally fair. I enjoyed it but I won't claim that people absolutely have to rush out and throw down their hard-earned cash to see it.
Your loss.
Definitely your loss. I loved it
I think it's the perfect light fantasy movie, with great graphics, action and humor. Would be a good series
The Druid was my fave character actually haha I liked her chemistry with the others.
💚🇬🇧🌱 this sounds intriguing! Feel I missed the boat on D&D I loved the eighties cartoon but never had friends who played we went the skateboard route instead but always wished I'd of got involved in some RPG but wouldn't have a clue how now😥
I got sucked into the world of skating as well. I was terrible but I had the skater cut and all the gear. Total poser, lol.
That stupid interview is like they have to put in this line to show that they ticked the woke checklist and they kind of did but by choosing character classes that can be misconstrues to have those qualities but not thus they can write it whatever way they want. that's my opinion anyway.
This review comes from a very credible source.
I've definitely done my time in the trenches. We need to get a special appearance by you during my Monday night session. You'll have to pull an all-nighter.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Every night is all night.
would be interesting to do a deeper dive into what changed in Paramount and since when, if this is indeed a pattern and not a fluke
I'm not sure what happened but suddenly Paramount is firing on all cylinders and proving to be a fierce competitor again with all the major studios.
The problem of DnD and generic fantasy is that DnD is the definition of generic fantasy. The lore of it is plainly a clusterfuck. And yes, that detracts from the novels etc. a lot. DnD can never pull off a LOTR or anything similar precisely because it is designed to be a game with many many options and variants.
So I disagree on the fantasy review in that DnD fails hard in that department as a franchise. Yes, you can shove stories in there but you have to fight the lore and the world the entire way and suspend a ton of disbelief to accept it by shrugging and ignoring it just like in superhero comics you have to ignore where everyone else is.
Huh? Don't you shrug & ignore LoTR horseshit as well...? I thought BECAUSE of the game mechanics & rules, the "magic" was actually GROUNDED. Of course non-players wouldn't know & it doesn't detract from their enjoyment of a fun fantasy romp.
Im tired of weak male leads, strong female leads don't bother me. They just dont get it. everyone has their strengths, have them play off each other. I enjoy sword and sorcery movies, even the bad ones.
I don't think he's an emasculated or weak lead. People have such a fixed idea of what masculine is. A self assured, confident character who doesn't have powers but is more than able to lead a whole crowd of powerful characters, lead them into battle and come out victorious is not weak, nor emasculated
I walked out chocked on the woke
Dis dude is bald as hell. I love it!
I too miss the aesthetic of the oldschool Grey Box and the later Gold Box Forgotten Realms. I do like some of the 5th edition art, but I wish they'd kept some of the aesthetic of its roots.
Tough to beat the days where Keith Parkinson was in his prime. He and Brom are my two favorite D&D artists.
I'm still traumatized with the 2000's movie 🤕
lol, no one will ever recover.
You will have your catharsis, don't worry. Getcho tickets NOW!!!!
I think page could end up as the next bond.
Lol, sure hope not
Hey James, I've just spent the day binge watching the Fringe series for the first time & I had never heard of it! What a great show for its time! It'd like to see your list of top Sci Fi series people should see, having only found person of interest last year I've come across these two gems on my own but having discovered the fringe on Friday I wonder what other great shows have passed me by? You can see why they picked Anna Torv for the role of Joel's girlfriend in the last of us after seeing her in action in her younger days... Oh & I'm loving the John wick movies so far too, going to see four in the cinema on Friday! Can't wait! 💚🇬🇧🌱
Never saw Fringe but it sounds like it would be right up my alley. Huge fan of Anna Torv. As far as essential Sci-Fi series go, I'd be much better qualified to tackle Sci-Fi in cinema over TV. Thrilled to hear you're digging John Wick. You're going to have a blast with Chapter 4 in the theater.
The best movie I've seen in cinema this year so far!
Better than John wick?
No way