Installing my own Electric Vehicle Charger
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2024
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A brickie told me you should always drill into the brickwork as it will stay solid forever whereas drilling into the mortar bed they crumble over time. That’s why older houses often need repointing. Love the videos and your work ethic btw. 👍
Thanks for the tip! I think I’ve done too much work in old listed buildings where you’re not allowed to drill the bricks 😂
I'm 62 now and have always mounted to the bricks and never the Mortar, you can hang off the charging cable and it will never pull the charger off the wall even if you forget and drive away.
A couple of good tugs on the charging lead and the charger will fall off Guaranteed.
Cracking job - my dad was an electrical engineer / electrician (ex MEB / Private - retired now). Showed him video and he was seriously impressed as was I. Good to see a true artisan at work !!
Interesting video! I'm an IT engineer but something about electrical works always gets me interested. Also fully approve of your neatness especially with the labelling 👍
Congrats. I'm getting mine installed this Saturday. Your videos were very helpful to decide which charger to get and to get an idea what's needs to be done at my place. Thank you!
Awesome hope the install goes well! What car are you getting??
These off cuts you think would come in handy but you keep them and they get in the way and other halves get annoyed by it 🤣👏🏻That’s my life right there mate 🤣
just wanted to say that i do love your videos, i was an electrician to the 17th edition but after the 18th came out i decided to retire, but looking at your videos, you are a man after my own heart, a bit OCD, like everything to be perfect, and the EV charger in Peckham, that consumer unit was horrible with all the insulation on cables cut so short. keep up the good work.
Love all the videos. I am taking my pre apprenticeship at the moment in Canada, starting apprenticeship in Feb.
Great to see someone who takes pride in their work
Thnks!
Hey, its been an absolute refreshing change to see a master at his trade!
I wouldt love to get into electrical vehicle trade with the company I work for.....in my eyes you recommend this highly!
I cant wait to do installs like you!
👍🏽
Thanks!
Our new favourite EV Charger is the Hypervolt, check it out here: ruclips.net/video/sL9aFwzWSwA/видео.html
Hi, interested to know why you rate the Hypervolt over the Zappi?
@@hottodropship9243because is a poor product
I had a funny feeling that was your property, interesting video as usual.
Yes it would be great to see some vlogs on your new Tesla.
Thanks! Tesla video to come soon.
Great Stuff 👍
It’s incredible that it’s legal to use bus bars like that in UK. In DK it has to be isolated wires
The tune the Zappi made @30:49 is the victory tune in final fantasy 7.
I hope you shifted all your neutrals and CPC’s over to suit the new consumer unit layout ... great vid 🇬🇧✊🏻
Great Video Jordan. I have a dental mirror in my kit so you check
the busbar is in the mcb terminal clamp. I do loads of inspections and see it all the time where the busbar has missed the clamp and has caused overheating 👍
Yeah me too I forgot to mention that it’s a great little tool!
Hi Jordan, this is Dave. We are loving your videos
You have great pride in your workmanship even on your own property. Good video mate 👍
Thanks
I thought you made a really smart job of installing that, the linian clips look very useful.
Thanks! 👍
A great job. Very nice charger and professional. Don't ever be tempted to DIY install this. Get an electician as you can see lots of testing needs to be done to check all is safe and working.
Yes absolutely! Thanks for the comment.
So I’m looking at getting an ev ,and home charger my question how do you go on when you don’t have an old style tap stopcock ? I have a Surestop switch stopcock under the sink in the cupboard with no visible bonding or no access behind the cupboard to check for bonding, I spoke to the council who believe the old tap stopcock would have been cut out when the surestop water switch was put in , thanks for any advice.
Great video Jordan. Thanks for featuring the LINIAN SuperClips. Very neat & tidy install!
Thanks. You’re welcome!
Yes the Joy's of off cuts, they make it untidy & the day after you get rid of it you get a job where it would be handy!!
Totally!
Water drainage pipe that close to the breaker unit would be a major problem if you had a blockage or waste problem
You should relocate it.
I'm researching what work I might have to have done to fit an EV charger. I have a 100amp fuse/switch. Doing a load calc 40 + (0.4x(32+32+16+6+6+6)) + 30.49 for the charger = 109A which exceeds the 100A. It looks like you have a greater demand on your CU. Is this only ok as your zappi has load management?
HI, How did you connect the Zappi to your home network to make it a Smart EV Charger, or did you not want to do this?
Watching from Australia having just bought a 3 SR+.
In Aus, all Tesla's come with the Gen 2 HPWC so will be installing that (only single phase like you so will be 32A).
Interestingly in Aus we are required to have an isolater/switch near any EV charger.
Surprised the UK doesn't have this requirement given you do have switches on far lower powered wall points
Lovely job once again Jordan. Congratulations on your anniversary too buddy
Thank you so much 👍
Hi I just wondered do you have to connect a home charger to your consumer unit or can all the wiring be done just in your outside meter box.
Final fantasy victory fanfare tune when you first connect the faceplate 😁
Subbed because you have bought a Tesla and sharing your Knowledge about it all. Thanks
Really like those Super Clips. No more plastic clips for me. Only slight thing I would have done differently, is I would have hidden the change of direction of the SWA between the brick courses behind the soil pipe.
Great install thanks for your input on the manufacturer of EV charger. Very thorough excellent..
Pleeease! Move the drain pipe an inch or two!
If it overflows it'll be interesting!
im getting a vw id3 and will need a 7kw charger. I want to lay the cable through the loft before the builders convert the upstairs to rooms. It will be a 20mtr run total inside and external. Do I need 6mm armoured cable or 10mm. Thanks
Nice to see how you connected to the existing DB and the use of those wall SWA clips ( really good) which is all common to general ccts , But ...
..... What would be good is : To see more about the EV testing itself which is more relevant ( in compliance with BS7671: 2018 section 722 Amd 1 ) and how the ZAPI EV charging unit complies with the requirements in BS761 2018 sect 722 regarding connecting to TN systems
- you mentioned this right at the end .. but rather glossed over it.
Have you seen JW’s video on EV chargers? Also, could you give us a demo of the charger in use showing us what sort of current it pulls etc, perhaps even if you could turn the electric hob/oven on to demo how it ramps back to stay under the maximum demand. Excellent video otherwise, would it be possible to wire the charger into the outside box (main incomer) with just a small main? I would be more comfortable with that amount of load staying away from my house’s main CU.
i have a rolec charger, which was fitted about 2 years ago. It stopped working (out of guarantee) last week. When i contacted Rolec they diagnosed the fault according to my description of the problem (The contactor) and even though it was out of guarantee sent me a new contactor free of charge.
If you drill from inside to uutside you can drill in the corner?
Yes best quality ever video and work man you are good.
Nice video. I can't tell you much I like to see work done well and neatly, unlike most of what I see here where I live!
It's all good for people who have a drive way but living in London on a terrace road it's next to impossible to install one when parking spaces is limited.
I keep hearing that, this is a way around it , they are going at quite a rate now. See ruclips.net/video/rKaEhBjt1ls/видео.html
Hi what type of cable did you used to connect the Zappi charger? What is the size? In mm2
Very helpful video, but one thing I may have missed is a clear statement of voltage - is it 220 or 240 volts? And, what is the charging rate in Amps or Watts? I live in Hong Kong and our standard supply is 220 volts and a geat many vehicles plug into a domestic standard 13 amp socket for EV charging. A friend's car uses 12.3 Amps for charging. The unknown is the next higher rate of charging. One neighbour with a Tesla uses 25 Amps for charging. The company meter is rated for 10 to 100 Anps AC. Three phase charging for EV's in my estate is a non starter because the local company - China Light and Power - would have to rewire the whole estate and build between 6 and 10 new sub stations to handle the load IF all the houses (5,024) wanted to charge EV's and run a home at the same time. Your comments would be helpful for background knowledge.
I thought I was being helpful by leaving the spare busbar ready for the next guy ( same as here) but I got a telling off by my Elecsa inspector for leaving it in the board. He said it was a contaminant and shouldn’t be there and made me take it out during the inspection visit
Wow interesting thanks
Really enjoyed the install, great job. Now we need the tour of the new car 😜 Stay safe!
Coming soon!
I know this video is 2 years old but I wonder, here where I am 3fase power is rather standard, even if you are single fase you have a 3 fase lead comming into the meter. Is this not a thing in the UK? or is it only older home instalations that have a single lead 100 amp?
witch type of cable and how many core we can use jordan
Do you carry out risk assessments and checklists prior to installing these? Also, with the PEN protection are you still required to ensure that everything within 10m that could possibly be earthed is either class 2 or separated from earth via an insulating section?
Could you explain again why the car charger is not put on the RCD? Does it have it's own RCD protection?
if you moved all the RH rcd ccts by one position to make room for the EV MCB - that would have changed all the existing cct numbers by "+1" ? - and then - presumably you moved all the neutral and CPC connections on the relevant busbars by +1 also to match the new cct numbering ?
Washing machine discharge pipe right next to consumer unit???? Water and electrics???
My understanding of the Zappi version 1 is that your not allowed to use it on PME and it does not provide disconnection of the supply in case of DC Fault current above 6ma. 18th Edition Regulation 722.531.2.101
I don’t know anything about Zappi V1 to be honest they don’t make them any more
Did you predrill for clipping, it was fastforward speed so i could not see what you used. ?
Looks great! Sorry to inform you that is NOT a charger. It is a 'smart' extension cord. The charger (battery charger) is in the car.
Great install. I am getting a pro in to do mine but as part of the landscaping work I am getting them to lay the cable as it is a long run. Is this normal armoured 3 core? Or do I need 3 or 5 core with data? I want to future proof as garden isnt coming up again!
Neat job and love the linen clips. Much neater than cleats.
Just a question. Does the cable supplying the ev charger not require RCD protection? Thanks.
Hi, just one stupid question from me, was that a type B 40Amp MCB you used ...i thought it had to be line protected by type A throughout? or do es the IEE/IET allow for manufacturers RCD to be included in the BS EN rating of the charger?? cheers.
Do we need to seal the holes we drilled on the wall, or to seal the anchor screws for the charging station? I am just worried about moistures going into the wall and causing condensation in winter
nice video... great for newly qualified guys like myself. keep them coming bro
Hi my mate got one installed and told me that all they did is, run the power to the white box outdoor where the meter sits instead of the fuse box. So just wondering if that is possible and how come you did not do the same ? maybe you did not have space
On the wireless unit for the load monitoring, does it need pairing again in case say of a power cut? Thanks.
nope it connects back up when powered
Can you please tell me how much would be the electric costs of charging? 7kW for 7 hours full charge, is that right?
Would the producer specify the cable size? Regardless of the size and installation method can we use any kind of cable rather than SWA?
Thanks
What size armoured cable did you use for this? Brilliant video
I don't like that washing machine exhaust hose right on top of a consumer unit is that spec? Could you not cut that pipe to be lower down?
Good video, thanks. What determines the 7kw as I have a garage at bottom of garden already with armoured cable but not sure if I can run straight off that.
See a really good job on here keep up there good work on here mate keep up the good work on here mate
Hi Jordan, Looking at getting an EV charger installed at my house. Im with Octopus, Would you still recommend the zappi as an EV charger or is there any others that you would favour now? How has your experience been with the zappi?
Jordan awesome job with a pros finish and a great Ad for the Zappi
Thanks a lot!
is an SPD surge protection device necessary for an home ev charger installation? to protect against lightening strikes etc
It's worth doing in my opinion to provide protection against various surges, an EV Charge Point and Electric Vehicle are expensive pieces of equipment!
very neat nice work as always jordan keep them coming
Let us know how you get on with the Model 3. Post some vids!
Thanks i'm loving it so far!
You seem so happy. Nice to see 👍🏼
Haha thanks yeah it was a joyful moment for me! 😁
If the Zappi didn’t have DC detection and you had to install a type B RCD
with built in dc capability/detection, would this need to be in its own box with earth rod? Or could it be installed as you did in the consumer unit if the earth was up to standard?
Great video, thanks. I'm a Model 3 owner and in the process of moving to be able to install a charger.
You mention that you didn't want to see so much cable on the outside, which looks great, but was there any technical reason you couldn't continue to the meter box and put your cable in through the wall using whatever hole is already there for the existing cables? Thanks
Great video, thank you, how will you stop someone else using your charger when you are not home .? , can it be locked ?
I think the government made a mistake with the whole EV market. From the start they should have said when you have a charge point installed in your home it needs a separate meter, that way they can charge vat at 20% and calculate fuel duty.
There's nothing to stop you from charging via the granny lead (supplied with most EV's) plugged into a 13A socket though.
Very neat install. The only I don't like is how for out the charging connection sticks out. I'll have think how to make one vandal / thief proof!
Greetings from Manchester once again....As always quality video... keep up the great work ethic.... great to see someone that takes great pride in their job...😁📽️👍👊✌️🧰🔧🍻🏍️
Much appreciated
With the Zappi chargers, do you need a type b rcd ? or is it built in on these. Thanks.
No need as it has a built in Type A RCD with 6mA DC leakage protection
Hi I have a separate electric supply to my garage with 5 other garages I believe it’s a 60 amp supply could I have a ev charge point installed
"We're gonna need a bigger boat, and while you're at it get a bigger / longer drill bit" 😂😂😂
HAHA
A good quality long drill bit for concrete and bricks, with a good drill / hammer, saves SO much time. Something that can take an hour with a shitty tools, can take 1-2 minutes with proper drill bit and drill. Love my long SDS plus drills. But the longest I own is 45cm. I guess having a longer one could be handy, but I am not a professional electrician :)
What’s to stop someone from having a bog standard 32amp socket installed, and use the cable that comes with the car or buy another charging cable (like the one from Ohme)... surely that wouldn’t need an Earth rod, and would be cheaper than buying a home charger unit. Maybe not a perfect solution...
Little or nothing. But it wouldn't comply with BS7671 and would be potentially dangerous.
The car wouldn't charge at 32amps....as you would only get a limited charge as the car wants to see the signal to say fast charge so you would just get a slow charge
Can a wallbox be fitted direct to the electricity meter through a standalone RCD without connecting it through the consumer unit?
Have a look at this video, there he does it that way: ruclips.net/video/RhdMMmSGyB8/видео.html
how to connect ev breaker to the main power supply?
Your really professional. Great vid.
60cm deep is a recommendation if likely to be damaged. In that situation it would be fine 👍
Thanks
I was going to look that up as was sure it was to do with damage, thinking armoured which you are using anyway as a starter alternative?
522.8.10 doesn't mention a depth. Just 'sufficient depth'. I love the book of grey areas 🤣
The Zappi is a very nice bit of kit and if you have a Solar PV installation it can do some very clever things. It’s worth checking out the fully charged channel, Robert Llewellyn’s has a recent video of his home demonstrating the Tesla power wall and Zappi setup.
Thanks I love that Channel
what would the 6 amp circuits be used for and what size wire is used for 6 amp than 16 amp circuits what size wire and what would be used for than what would 20 amp circuits be used for and what size is the wire in the us we use 14 gage wire 15 amps 12 gage wire 20 amps 10 gage wire 30 amps black live white neutral green or bare wire ground gage is the American wire gage
Nice and easy install bro! Need to see the car and the performance of the Zapi in action😉
Thanks
Jordon, would you not recommend an spd is fitted when installing Zappi ev charging points?
Good sales pitch, sound electrics. Thanks. Very informative.
Have you made one on the 'Harvi' device? Sounds useful.
Love it We dig it!
2:45 Funny that this house looks same as the last video where do you talk about the charger station and the video before where do you install cables. I know this washing machine some minutes later. Why YT talk me that this Video is 5 hours old?
Hi Jordan love the videos and quality installations. Just have one comment. I am not a qualified electrician so shoot me down with the regs, but as Joe Bloggs is it wise to have a washing machine waste so close to a main consumer unit? Looking forward to seeing the model 3 . Great choice. Wish I had trained as an sparky I'm stuck with a 24Kw leaf. (Still a great car) Regards Keith.
Thanks! I would never install a washing machine that close to the consumer unit but it’s not my own house! 👍 glad you like the videos!
Excellent. My next car will be electric, nothing as expensive as a Tesla. My question is as I don't know what car I will go for ,which unit do I put in ( I am renovating my house top to bottom now seems a good time to put a unit in ) needs to be a unit to cover a broad range of cars. Thank you in advance.
Is the s.w.a armouring not connected to earth?
Why didn't you fit a surge protector?
Hi Jordan
I am looking to get a Model Y when it comes to UK built in Giga Berlin
I shall be installing a V2 ZAPPI charger, outside mails box, Solar Panels eventually and Power Wall Eventually too.
I shall be installing a HARVI with a CT clamp and a HUB in the Sitting room near the modem.
I am planning for the future and so have worked out where to run the cable from the Consumer unit to the V2 ZAPPI charger on the wall outside. I also want a Mains Wall switch double weather proof box, so two Armoured cables with the Linian clips that you used very neat.
I may need a separate Consumer unit for the extra future Power Wall and Solar panels ?
I have watched your video on you installing the V2 ZAPPI charger on your own house and I was very impressed.
Are you a recognised V2 ZAPPI charger installer for OLEV etc, and secondly I an in Lancing West Sussex. Do you cover this area?
I am already with OCTOPUS and will change to AGILE when I get the car.
I am in a semi detached and have seen on RUclips that there is sometimes a problem with properties having shared supply, what do you know of this
Sorry if this is long. Hope to hear from you soon
James
With the 40A MCB what size cable did you use? I am looking at 25m max underground cable for mine.