Posting the fuel tank capacity is one additional detail to make the "Weight With Full Fuel" comparison valid. For all we know, they are only heavier or lighter because of that fuel!
Great you are assessing a Beta, the 390 is the most versatile in their range. I have a Beta 480 RR 2017 , it now has 8250 kms on it and 156 hrs, being used as an adventure bike, 15 litre tank, Golden Tyre GT201s, Seat Concepts comfort seat. Very happy with the bike and now issues what so ever! Trust you will love the 390! Keep winning!
I have been curious about the 390 for a couple of years. Never had the chance to ride one. I am looking forward to hearing what you think, Kyle. Keep up the great work!
Congratulations Kyle, Beta trusts you to be honest!! And so do we!! I have two Husqvarnas and two Betas, my favorite is the Beta 250 rr Race edition. I added some turn signals and a plate and now it is now a duel sport too!! Have fun! Ride on!
You are my go to youtuber for dirt bike stuff. I'm really looking forward to this review being that I'm a crack away from breaking down and buying one. I'm still in the air between the 390 and 430. Looking forward to your review!
I rode one for a little in Nova Scotia and let my buddy try out my 2011 Berg 390. Has awesome pull and awesome suspension. Felt lighter than my berg, but the berg seemed to have a little more pull, which can be back to tire traction really.
I have 2011 400rr its power is perfect. It pulls all day long and its torquy as all get out. She's a large girl though. I would bet she's pushing 270. But even still it can do a lot of the tight tech stuff I like. Its planted at speed and its flickable going slow. I wonder if the the 390 is the same. Great videos Kyle. I can't wait to see you future videos on the 390.
I've got a 2017 beta 390 and love it. So easy to ride. Mine comes with a kick start. It's useless because there is no decompression button which makes it impossible to kick start. I wouldn't worry about the kick-start Kyle.
Looking forward to seeing how this bike does. Hope you not only compare it to your KTM's, but also the Beta 300 2 stroke. I like this 390 because it has the longest stroke of the Betas.
My dealer asked the forbidden question when I ordered my 2022 beta 390 rrs. Whats your weight? I got the bike sprung to my weight from the factory . Couldnt be happier with how I got it.
I love my 2019 Beta 300rr. Super great bike. You need to cover the fact that the aftermarket for Beta is practically non-existent though. Something I wasn’t expecting when I initially bought my bike. Still in love with it just something no one talks about
I have had no problem getting parts for my xTrainer. Pipe guard, levers, bark busters that kind of stuff. Spring for the rear brake return was kind of a pain to find.
OMG Kyle, I hope you are kind to my favorite new 4 stroke brotha man! And please remember that being a tad smaller than a KTM is a virtue to some people. The first minute I railed tight woods on the 390 I fell in love.
Love my 17 xtrainer. This bike is insanely good looking. Dont forget to show people about beta's byob program. That is something only they offer and i know alot people in AZ that buy them that way. Trials and enduro
I have 350rr. I have been on ktm for a long time and beta is an absolutely great alternative. Best bike I've ever had. Suspension, motor, everything. Absolutely great.
can you help me its time for a new bike and i cant decide between beta rr 300 or beta 350/390 i like enduro bike but i dont do enduro and i use this only for weekend or a ride to work , im young and i want a bike more powerful than my 125 beta thanks
Subscribed! I went to a Beta Demo Day a couple months back, my favs were the 300 2T, 390, & 430. Trying to decide b/t the 390 & 430 (loved the 300 but not its vibes), cant wait for your review.
When the Beta gets low in the stroke it’s handing really suffers and it high, it becomes unstable. The KTM either packs or blows through the stroke if the ride height is off. Picky riders will spend more time making changes to the KTM’s PDS shock for changing conditions compared to the linkage system on the Beta.
I went to a Beat Demo days when they came through MO last weekend. Great power on the 390 but lots of engine braking and didn't like that because i ride 2t's. Its a 350 stroker motor to get to 390, same piston as there 350, is why i believe it had so much more engine braking compared to the 430 or 350. The 350 and 430 had minimal engine braking and great linear power, both my preference for that sol reasoning.
Awesome video again Kyle thank for taking the time. Very interested in the Beta, i know they have some quality control issues so interested to see what you think. PS thanks for the weight conversion to KGs (whats a pound!!!! :-) )
From what I remember reading it was all assembly stuff like rad hoses and clamps but I could be wrong. Pointy kick stands and brittle plastics. Being exceptions.
I'm not an expert, but i did try the 390 racing edition MY 2019 in a beta demo day. The racing edition has 2 injectors which improves the mid and top end power. I tell you this is a beast, it has as much torque as my wr450f which is very torquey, but a lot lighter and better suspension.
@@ausforce1 Yeah, absolutely. I run stock rear sprocket and a 14 front - the bike came with a 13 and 15, and I like the middle gearing. It works fine. Go over to ADVrider and find the thread on these bikes as dual-sporters.
I was looking to buy a Beta 250 2-Stroke Race-Edition, but stayed away from it because of the low seat hight. Being 6'3 I felt I'd be better off with a bigger bike. Looking forward to your review.
I can't say never but not BETA for some time fore sure. Good stuff from their is frame and position similar to trial, seat opening, tool storage under seat. From the worst things is suspension (why not KYB), parts and solution for older bike. I think better is New Sherco 2019. This bike is really loaded.
Weighting the bikes with a full tank of gas say more about the size of the tank than the actual weight of the bike, which make weight comparaison between bikes very difficult. Probably too late to change that but they all should be weighted with the same quantity of gas to make a fair comparaison. And obviously, most of the time we spend on a bike is not with a full tank...
Not to hard to figure out what that weight is, just subtract the amount of gas times the weight of gas (6.3lbs/gallon). This bike holds 2 gallons of gas according to Beta's website, so the dry weight would be 259-(2*6.3)=236.4lbs
The 2019 Honda CR 250 has three more horsepower and weighs thirty pounds less (which means better handling, faster starts and stops, and less mass to fight thus making you less tired). Plus it costs about $1000 less. So go figure.
I have an 18 300 rr race with 55 hours that I race and trail ride and no issues at all. Once known issue doesn't mean piss poor quality control for the whole brand.
Tim Muis you are right I probably was being a bit harsh using that phrase. It's a known issue that beta are ignoring, with a huge brand that is for the most part well regarded. They should be issuing a recall or atleast a statement acknowledging it.
Comparable to what? Most of those modern 4strokes got no kick starter, so the weight is fair. I don't like that fact, but at least you can get a kit if you want.
@@DGfilms1996 obviously you have not installed a KTM kick starter kit it's not only the kickstarter arm it's the ratchet gear, it's the idler gear, it's the spring it's the shaft it rides on if it were only 2 lb they wouldn't have deleted it.
Apart of the blinkers switch you could also remove the chain guard from the top of the swing arm. It's mostly there for EU homolologation. If you leave it on, sooner or later will break while you're on the trail....
People tend to bleed orange because they are nicer than other bikes. And when they are newer you don't see the reliability differences between them and Honda /yamaha.
Kyle's upcoming summary..... "it's a really nice bike but doesn't fit me like the pumpkin, the fit and finish aren't as good, it's heavy and slow, not as reliable, Sachs doesn't handle like PDS blah blah blah" There will be little to no mention of Beta BYOB, handmade in Italy, factory uncorked, hundreds less than competition! You heard it hear 1st!
Posting the fuel tank capacity is one additional detail to make the "Weight With Full Fuel" comparison valid. For all we know, they are only heavier or lighter because of that fuel!
6 pounds per gallon! Thats why my bike feels best at the end of the day! Lol
Great you are assessing a Beta, the 390 is the most versatile in their range. I have a Beta 480 RR 2017 , it now has 8250 kms on it and 156 hrs, being used as an adventure bike, 15 litre tank, Golden Tyre GT201s, Seat Concepts comfort seat. Very happy with the bike and now issues what so ever! Trust you will love the 390! Keep winning!
I have been curious about the 390 for a couple of years. Never had the chance to ride one. I am looking forward to hearing what you think, Kyle. Keep up the great work!
i guess it's kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch new series online?
@Briar Immanuel flixportal :)
@Felix Duke thanks, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) Appreciate it !!
@Briar Immanuel no problem xD
I am so happy you picked the 390, BY FAR my favourite bike ever and the best beta in my opinion 💙
Same. I went to the Beta demo day and for some reason, the 390 was calling out to me. The RRS version too, not even the race edition.
My dad has a 2019 390, I really like it. great power delivery and in my opinion fantastic ergonomics.
Congratulations Kyle,
Beta trusts you to be honest!!
And so do we!!
I have two Husqvarnas and two Betas, my favorite is the Beta 250 rr Race edition. I added some turn signals and a plate and now it is now a duel sport too!!
Have fun! Ride on!
I also have the 250 RR and love it
You are my go to youtuber for dirt bike stuff. I'm really looking forward to this review being that I'm a crack away from breaking down and buying one. I'm still in the air between the 390 and 430. Looking forward to your review!
Glad to see another majestic Beta in your garage Kyle 🙏
I rode one for a little in Nova Scotia and let my buddy try out my 2011 Berg 390. Has awesome pull and awesome suspension. Felt lighter than my berg, but the berg seemed to have a little more pull, which can be back to tire traction really.
All brands should be giving you bikes to review!
Also, you can easily take the blinker control off. It’s just a screw and a wired in connection
I have 2011 400rr its power is perfect. It pulls all day long and its torquy as all get out. She's a large girl though. I would bet she's pushing 270. But even still it can do a lot of the tight tech stuff I like. Its planted at speed and its flickable going slow. I wonder if the the 390 is the same. Great videos Kyle. I can't wait to see you future videos on the 390.
This is exciting, can't wait to see the upcoming videos. The 390 is another one of those tweeners, like the 300 2 strokes.
I've got a 2017 beta 390 and love it. So easy to ride. Mine comes with a kick start. It's useless because there is no decompression button which makes it impossible to kick start. I wouldn't worry about the kick-start Kyle.
3:43 its 117.6 not .4 Kyle dont you lie to me!!!😎
I love having the turn signal switch and horn on my 250 RR. Put mini blinkers on it for the road.
Rode every bike in the demo today... 2020 390 rr-s was the easy standout.
For me it had the right amount of everything.
I just bought a Beta 390! But a used 2016...hey it's what I can afford.
Great bike. Congrats to your new beta. I love betas. I ride 2015 rr 300 and I absolutely love it. Believe it or not I like it more than ktm 300tpi
Looking forward to seeing how this bike does. Hope you not only compare it to your KTM's, but also the Beta 300 2 stroke. I like this 390 because it has the longest stroke of the Betas.
Can’t wait to see the full review on this
rode that same bike in october at the demo event, it was the favorite of all of them.
My dealer asked the forbidden question when I ordered my 2022 beta 390 rrs. Whats your weight? I got the bike sprung to my weight from the factory . Couldnt be happier with how I got it.
I love my 2019 Beta 300rr. Super great bike. You need to cover the fact that the aftermarket for Beta is practically non-existent though. Something I wasn’t expecting when I initially bought my bike. Still in love with it just something no one talks about
I have had no problem getting parts for my xTrainer. Pipe guard, levers, bark busters that kind of stuff. Spring for the rear brake return was kind of a pain to find.
OMG Kyle, I hope you are kind to my favorite new 4 stroke brotha man! And please remember that being a tad smaller than a KTM is a virtue to some people. The first minute I railed tight woods on the 390 I fell in love.
Very nice! Can't wait for the rides to start on this beast
Love my 17 xtrainer. This bike is insanely good looking. Dont forget to show people about beta's byob program. That is something only they offer and i know alot people in AZ that buy them that way. Trials and enduro
I have 350rr. I have been on ktm for a long time and beta is an absolutely great alternative. Best bike I've ever had. Suspension, motor, everything. Absolutely great.
And Kyle. Thank you for reviewing this! Waiting for more videos with this!
stoked about the beta.. Wish you had a 390 rrs. Almost got one but ended up getting a new 300. still might go back and get one but plated.
Please review GAS GAS EC or XC300. Keep up the great work.
Wow the 390 has a really nice engine, super long power.
This channel is awsome! When is the Honda crf 125f review?
can you help me its time for a new bike and i cant decide between beta rr 300 or beta 350/390 i like enduro bike but i dont do enduro and i use this only for weekend or a ride to work , im young and i want a bike more powerful than my 125 beta thanks
Subscribed! I went to a Beta Demo Day a couple months back, my favs were the 300 2T, 390, & 430. Trying to decide b/t the 390 & 430 (loved the 300 but not its vibes), cant wait for your review.
When the Beta gets low in the stroke it’s handing really suffers and it high, it becomes unstable. The KTM either packs or blows through the stroke if the ride height is off. Picky riders will spend more time making changes to the KTM’s PDS shock for changing conditions compared to the linkage system on the Beta.
Dude... I LOVE MY BETA !
I went to a Beat Demo days when they came through MO last weekend. Great power on the 390 but lots of engine braking and didn't like that because i ride 2t's. Its a 350 stroker motor to get to 390, same piston as there 350, is why i believe it had so much more engine braking compared to the 430 or 350. The 350 and 430 had minimal engine braking and great linear power, both my preference for that sol reasoning.
Yes! About time there's another 4 stroke.
This bike looks nice. I’m excited to see the reviews.
Awesome video again Kyle thank for taking the time. Very interested in the Beta, i know they have some quality control issues so interested to see what you think. PS thanks for the weight conversion to KGs (whats a pound!!!! :-) )
From what I remember reading it was all assembly stuff like rad hoses and clamps but I could be wrong.
Pointy kick stands and brittle plastics. Being exceptions.
We need to know if it will it on 60-70mph on the highway ????? no one has ever shown this and us light adventure bike riders need to know.....please!
I'm not an expert, but i did try the 390 racing edition MY 2019 in a beta demo day. The racing edition has 2 injectors which improves the mid and top end power. I tell you this is a beast, it has as much torque as my wr450f which is very torquey, but a lot lighter and better suspension.
Hell yeah. I've got one. Use it like that a lot. Me, Giant loop luggage, aux fuel tank, no problem.
@@dznnf7 I m thinking of buying a 390r but I need it to do 60-70mph om the highway without it blowing up ? will it do that ?
@@ausforce1 Yeah, absolutely. I run stock rear sprocket and a 14 front - the bike came with a 13 and 15, and I like the middle gearing. It works fine. Go over to ADVrider and find the thread on these bikes as dual-sporters.
I think this is the beta to get, I feel like it's something no one offers right now. Curious how it goes for you.
I was looking to buy a Beta 250 2-Stroke Race-Edition, but stayed away from it because of the low seat hight. Being 6'3 I felt I'd be better off with a bigger bike. Looking forward to your review.
At least we will get a normal persons opinion not some pro level rider, can't wait
Only 5.5 lbs heavier than the TE 300i is pretty good. Maybe 3 more if you add the kicker.
For 2023 what would you recommend? I'm stuck between the Beta 390 rr-s and 500 rr-s
You should check out some steep long hill climbs Kyle I’ve seen videos where it looks like these things do way better than 300s
I love betas start stop switch.
Ive had 2016 350 rr since new and like never use kickstart
Nice vid Kyle love it
I can't say never but not BETA for some time fore sure. Good stuff from their is frame and position similar to trial, seat opening, tool storage under seat. From the worst things is suspension (why not KYB), parts and solution for older bike. I think better is New Sherco 2019. This bike is really loaded.
PNW Enduro did a 2018 or ‘19 demo day impression on these a year or so ago sponsored by Schuschwap Extreme (sp?) Motorcycle shop in Washington state.
Great video! Looking forward to see what you think!
Can't wait for the review
That bike is bad ass! Just out of my price range. Maybe one day.
The bike is gorgeous!
Weighting the bikes with a full tank of gas say more about the size of the tank than the actual weight of the bike, which make weight comparaison between bikes very difficult. Probably too late to change that but they all should be weighted with the same quantity of gas to make a fair comparaison. And obviously, most of the time we spend on a bike is not with a full tank...
Not to hard to figure out what that weight is, just subtract the amount of gas times the weight of gas (6.3lbs/gallon). This bike holds 2 gallons of gas according to Beta's website, so the dry weight would be 259-(2*6.3)=236.4lbs
Alright!!! I have the 2018 300 and 430 RE . I think you are going to be surprised.
Hope you can do a Gas Gas EC review soon.....
Do they make this available in street legal?
Clay hasn't let you borrow a sherco yet?
Never heard of beta , or those other bikes growing up , only Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, honda,ktm
That would be nice to see a review of a dual sport bike, ktm exc's, honda's, drz...
Nice Bike looks cool 👍
I realise the bike u had doesn't come with the O2 sensor. Do you think is better to take mine off and what effects does it have on and off? TIA
Great video!
Pretty cool swingarm
The reason Beta let u was because they knew its a good bike nu are honest n dont talk crap even about crap bike, u give fair opinions
ahh! come on man! gonna make me want one of these anymore than I already do hahaha
The 2019 Honda CR 250 has three more horsepower and weighs thirty pounds less (which means better handling, faster starts and stops, and less mass to fight thus making you less tired). Plus it costs about $1000 less. So go figure.
Getting my 350inneutral has always been aproblem
Be sure to time it up the " razor back" .
Does that thing have a ZF transmission? That's expensive!
Heard in there newer machines quality control is slipping.
A Gas Gas guy talking about quality control?
Bruce Copner ruclips.net/video/AJOE3I0Vc4M/видео.html
Bruce Copner heard it from a few other channels. not just one video on it.
I have an 18 300 rr race with 55 hours that I race and trail ride and no issues at all.
Once known issue doesn't mean piss poor quality control for the whole brand.
Tim Muis you are right I probably was being a bit harsh using that phrase. It's a known issue that beta are ignoring, with a huge brand that is for the most part well regarded. They should be issuing a recall or atleast a statement acknowledging it.
I'd ride one : )
Don't forget to add 6 or 7 pounds for a kickstarter before it's comparable.
Comparable to what? Most of those modern 4strokes got no kick starter, so the weight is fair. I don't like that fact, but at least you can get a kit if you want.
@@andrejskamla9736comparable to something with a kickstarter like our 2 strokes, I personally won't ride something without a kickstarter
7 pounds for a kick starter??? Lol what a kicker is like 2 pounds maybe
@@DGfilms1996 obviously you have not installed a KTM kick starter kit it's not only the kickstarter arm it's the ratchet gear, it's the idler gear, it's the spring it's the shaft it rides on if it were only 2 lb they wouldn't have deleted it.
Apart of the blinkers switch you could also remove the chain guard from the top of the swing arm. It's mostly there for EU homolologation. If you leave it on, sooner or later will break while you're on the trail....
Where is the kickstart lever! Why!! (i know they did it a coula years ago, before KTM, but I still hate it!).
P.S, still a bloody nice bike tho. nice 1 Kyle.
You can order it with one 🤷♂️
Paint it orange so it has a chance in your “unbiased” reviews
Why do you think he's biased? He seems to be honest and explains the good and bad sides of every bike he rides.
I mean I feel like one of his favorite bikes has been the yz250x
People tend to bleed orange because they are nicer than other bikes. And when they are newer you don't see the reliability differences between them and Honda /yamaha.
Speed & Power you’re high.
🤪🤣🙃 & its not 2 stoke 🤷♂️☠️
There a little bit heavier
I’m here for seat height. Flat earth
Kyle's upcoming summary..... "it's a really nice bike but doesn't fit me like the pumpkin, the fit and finish aren't as good, it's heavy and slow, not as reliable, Sachs doesn't handle like PDS blah blah blah" There will be little to no mention of Beta BYOB, handmade in Italy, factory uncorked, hundreds less than competition! You heard it hear 1st!
Wrong. I actually really, really liked this bike on my first ride. Forks were fantastic. Full review will come in a couple of months.
Use kilograms ffs.