I believe going back to small scale farming would solve most of our "problems". I live on a 20 acre Organic farm in Norway. We have 10 cows + all we need of vegetables and carrots for sale. Growing up on a farm really give you respect for the animals. And makes appreciate the food on your table.
the fact that farmers are there producing food on an intensive scale gives other the time to work at different things other than producing their own food. meat is a good source of food for humans and it can be produced from feeding animals plants and food that humans just cant digest, so increasing the amount of food for people we can produce from farms. you might not eat meat but factory farming has actually given you that luxury to decide what you want to eat in the first place.
Funny, in Texas we just run them through a squeeze chute, we bring them to us where we do dozens at a time as they move down the squeeze chute and through the head gate.
Always a method to the madness.... neat one man rig. Some don't use dehorn past anymore. Rubs off on the cow as it suckles or gets licked off. Propane dehorner's get's er done and over with. Not for rocky or uneven lands.
i did see in Africa one time how they did catch wild cow's also in Australia with a Jeep or landrover and a big Hydraulik arm..around the neck same time they did drive.
That's pretty neat. In a very nice pasture like you have and on brand new calves. I wonder how it would go on week or two old calf in a more typical pasture ( clump grass and uneven ground, trees ect....) It would sure be easy to break a calves leg or get out-turned with the 4 wheeler. It's hard to beat a good horse and a good hand. It would be nice to not have the cow blowing snot down your neck while you had her baby on the ground:)
as someone already pointed out, yes it is infact a legal requirement! need to learn these things , presuming you want to farm as your looking at these videos?
ok, i understand :) and no, i wouldn't do it to a dog, because we don't have to, but we do put bands around dogs tails, which in time cuts the blood circulation, and docking the tail. We do these things when they are young, i mean very young, maybe 2 days old, so that they don't feel it. Do you have you got your belly button? that was cut at birth with a bit pair of scissors, and i bet you don't remember that.
decent horse $1000 and rope $20 - $30, saddle $300, with a little feed !!!! ATV $8000, gas, and repairs, plus this thing !!!!!! maybe just cause i'm from Texas, but give me my horse any day !!!
I've been reading about animal stress and I can't decide what is best. I've been told that chasing, roping and slamming a calf on it's side can sometimes be unhealthy for the calf but I don't know if this would be all that much better. It does seem safer for the worker as they don't have as much worry about an angry mama coming after them.
People all want the society to change But no one's willing to sacrifice what it takes They have the option to drive or walk to work, and naturally choose to drive. Humans will always choose the easiest way out of anything. and to rise cattle is easier and way more effective then to hunt wild animals. Still tough, there is a lot of things that could change for the better when it comes to the keep of animals on many farms. when farms turn into factories, you know you have lost an important factor
do you have any idea how much production of food has multiplied from using modern farming techniques, fertilizers, genetic modification, animal breeding etc etc. in bad weather organic crops are the first to fail, if we all adopted the notion of just growing crops to survive in small scale, organic farms then i can guarantee you there would not only be starving people in third world countries.
Video was weak. Where it actually needs to be seen in action, it was cut off. I can see how handy it would be in the right areas, would just like to see how hard it was to get the calf far enough from it's mother and in position. I am guessing not near as smooth as portrayed here, or the whole catch would have been shown. Yes? Seems like a good idea though and can be used eventually.
all the grain must be dried to stop it going off, most climates this means actually using driers burning fuel to take out the moisture, cattle feed you add acid to it to preserve it and it's ALOT cheaper, storage can be in an open shed for cattle feed, human consumption requires a far cleaner environment which is alot more expensive. and so what about the amazon, how does this affect anything to do with our discussion.
the food that cattle eat is not the same as food for humans, understand people need their food to be alot more refined than animal feed, look at a maize plant, you can only eat the corn, a cow can eat the whole plant, and it won't pass through the cow as it's digestive system is better suited to digesting plant material. more refining of food takes more money, more money makes it less cost effective. and even if 50% of food is used for feeding cattle it comes back in the food chain as meat.
I see your point. But still, this is the way today's society works. Same about cows now, as with slaves a couple hundred years ago. Back then your slaves was seen as your property. And if anyone killed your slave you had the right to claim compensation. Today cows (and many other animals. pigs, chickens........) are look't at as farmers property. He spend money buying them. An get money selling them. Although it might seem cruel, it's just as much his property as his tractors.
yes but when have you ever seen a farmer feed cattle rice. barley, wheat and corn all cannot be digested by humans the way it is presented on the plant, cattle even need you to grind it a bit to break the outter shell, cattle can then digest it, people still need it to be refined further, need it cooked and some crop isn't suitable quality for human feed, suitable storage for human consumption is ALOT more expensive, methods for preservation of grain for human consumption is ALOT more expensive
Not his property? Do you think the cows live like wild animals out on the prarie, and that we still have to go hunting to get meat? Cows are owned by farmers! That means the calf is the property of the farmer. The tagging is done to tell them apart. its a way of giving the cow a "name", (a number).
Global warming happens now and then naturally, but have never before happened as fast as it does now! This is what concern people, the fact that we speed up global warming just by building and driving cars, and keeping cows that fart.
and of what use to us are these species, do we feed on them do they have a positive impact on our environment other than being some sort of entertainment where tourists can go spot them? it is a moral issue, i couldn't care less about some parrot in some forest, or some rare beautiful mushroom or whatever. if your point is about feeding starving people then i'm afraid with an ever growing population more land must be used for farming, and if not then farms must become more efficient.
and how many people can a cow feed?? many cows produce over 20 litres of milk a day, that will feed atleast 10 people would it not? and no, feeding a person 50kg of hay or maize meal will not feed them at all, you have to further refine the grain first, add to that the fact that most of the plant is lost because we can't eat the stalk of the maize plant. you really aren't getting it, people cannot eat the same food a cow eats, and even when we eat corn and grains we don't fully digest them.
sorry but that is a moral issue, it's got nothing to do with efficiency, which you are claiming factory farms are lacking compared to some hippie vegan vegetable plot.
what i'm trying to tell you is this, farming cattle to produce alot of food is easy and can be done in almost any climate, farming specialist high protein food for vegan diets are not able to be grown in harsh climates and even in the climates they are grown in are not cost effective to grow to supply the majority of the population with food. this whole eco living is just political nonsense, and it doesn't add up in the real world.
I believe going back to small scale farming would solve most of our "problems". I live on a 20 acre Organic farm in Norway. We have 10 cows + all we need of vegetables and carrots for sale. Growing up on a farm really give you respect for the animals. And makes appreciate the food on your table.
Cool no fuss secure from a protective mom attack... i like it!
I cannot get over you chasing the calf with a metal box, It is the funniest thing i have ever seen! I loved it :)
the fact that farmers are there producing food on an intensive scale gives other the time to work at different things other than producing their own food. meat is a good source of food for humans and it can be produced from feeding animals plants and food that humans just cant digest, so increasing the amount of food for people we can produce from farms. you might not eat meat but factory farming has actually given you that luxury to decide what you want to eat in the first place.
Quick tagging. Farmer straddles the calf the right way💪🏻💪🏻
Funny, in Texas we just run them through a squeeze chute, we bring them to us where we do dozens at a time as they move down the squeeze chute and through the head gate.
Always a method to the madness.... neat one man rig. Some don't use dehorn past anymore. Rubs off on the cow as it suckles or gets licked off. Propane dehorner's get's er done and over with. Not for rocky or uneven lands.
so right
nifty as hell, this seems like it would work for catching anything small enough like pigs or goats
Now this would've come in handy this time of the year. I wonder if there being sold here in Alberta?
I like it listening to guns and roses, while watching some rubber boot wearing farmer work his one calf with a four wheeler.
Looks like a good idea!
These cows are extremely lucky compare to the ones in factory farms
mother cow: omg! you got your ears pierced!
calf: aw cmon mum, all the calves are doing it these days
i did see in Africa one time how they did catch wild cow's also in Australia with a Jeep or landrover and a big Hydraulik arm..around the neck same time they did drive.
That's pretty neat. In a very nice pasture like you have and on brand new calves.
I wonder how it would go on week or two old calf in a more typical pasture ( clump grass and uneven ground, trees ect....) It would sure be easy to break a calves leg or get out-turned with the 4 wheeler.
It's hard to beat a good horse and a good hand. It would be nice to not have the cow blowing snot down your neck while you had her baby on the ground:)
Where can you get one of these just like this in the United States preferably near Colorado
hey there !!
the paste you used for debudding the calf, wouldnt it hurt the cow's udder if it touches her ?
good field work 👍
as someone already pointed out, yes it is infact a legal requirement! need to learn these things , presuming you want to farm as your looking at these videos?
Hello there! Can you explain me please what was that which you have put on horns.? Thanks a lot!
It's dehorning paste. It destroys the tissue.
good idea , would be a bit concerned about dismnting the quad if cow was angry , some cows can be very wild after calving,
Handy machine !!!
tags are used for traceability, the idea is that you can trace a packet of meat from the shop right back to the farm and know it's history.
ok, i understand :) and no, i wouldn't do it to a dog, because we don't have to, but we do put bands around dogs tails, which in time cuts the blood circulation, and docking the tail. We do these things when they are young, i mean very young, maybe 2 days old, so that they don't feel it. Do you have you got your belly button? that was cut at birth with a bit pair of scissors, and i bet you don't remember that.
is this worth the risk of breaking a calf's leg with human error?
what was that cream and what does it do. does it dehorn?
Yes its Hornex paste and kills the horn before it starts growing
Will you be watching the video again?
decent horse $1000 and rope $20 - $30, saddle $300, with a little feed !!!! ATV $8000, gas, and repairs, plus this thing !!!!!! maybe just cause i'm from Texas, but give me my horse any day !!!
+jonathon watterson we would be in court for animal cruelty I we tried roping cattle in the UK.
After reading that, I just said a short prayer and thanked my forefathers for escaping the UK and Sweden.
I've been reading about animal stress and I can't decide what is best. I've been told that chasing, roping and slamming a calf on it's side can sometimes be unhealthy for the calf but I don't know if this would be all that much better. It does seem safer for the worker as they don't have as much worry about an angry mama coming after them.
i belive this way is more fast then a old facion way with a lasso..
If you catch thus calf I promise that I will become a man married to a month.
Still easier to get your rope down and rope him horseback, and its way lower stress on the cattle if you do it horseback
Cool
excelentr
Cool contraption but not for certain cow types.....lol like Brahma and SG
People all want the society to change But no one's willing to sacrifice what it takes They have the option to drive or walk to work, and naturally choose to drive. Humans will always choose the easiest way out of anything. and to rise cattle is easier and way more effective then to hunt wild animals.
Still tough, there is a lot of things that could change for the better when it comes to the keep of animals on many farms. when farms turn into factories, you know you have lost an important factor
portequip is my uncles business
That calf is tiny it would be just as easy to catch it without the special machine. especially if they are packed together
do you have any idea how much production of food has multiplied from using modern farming techniques, fertilizers, genetic modification, animal breeding etc etc. in bad weather organic crops are the first to fail, if we all adopted the notion of just growing crops to survive in small scale, organic farms then i can guarantee you there would not only be starving people in third world countries.
lol...a ranch rope is about $22.
yeah but this a hell of a lot faster .. and u can use less skilled labor
lol some rancher
+skoshabmosha also illegal to rope animals in the uk
break the law
Video was weak. Where it actually needs to be seen in action, it was cut off. I can see how handy it would be in the right areas, would just like to see how hard it was to get the calf far enough from it's mother and in position. I am guessing not near as smooth as portrayed here, or the whole catch would have been shown. Yes? Seems like a good idea though and can be used eventually.
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@capsunful Its a legal requirement in this country!
I would never do this it could break there leg
all the grain must be dried to stop it going off, most climates this means actually using driers burning fuel to take out the moisture, cattle feed you add acid to it to preserve it and it's ALOT cheaper, storage can be in an open shed for cattle feed, human consumption requires a far cleaner environment which is alot more expensive. and so what about the amazon, how does this affect anything to do with our discussion.
the food that cattle eat is not the same as food for humans, understand people need their food to be alot more refined than animal feed, look at a maize plant, you can only eat the corn, a cow can eat the whole plant, and it won't pass through the cow as it's digestive system is better suited to digesting plant material. more refining of food takes more money, more money makes it less cost effective. and even if 50% of food is used for feeding cattle it comes back in the food chain as meat.
Why do you have to pin them down like that they can't run
Josiah Cannaday they can run within thirty minutes of birth
So they don't thrash most likely
i think this would work with deer
dead deer sure.
I see your point. But still, this is the way today's society works. Same about cows now, as with slaves a couple hundred years ago. Back then your slaves was seen as your property. And if anyone killed your slave you had the right to claim compensation.
Today cows (and many other animals. pigs, chickens........) are look't at as farmers property. He spend money buying them. An get money selling them. Although it might seem cruel, it's just as much his property as his tractors.
yes but when have you ever seen a farmer feed cattle rice. barley, wheat and corn all cannot be digested by humans the way it is presented on the plant, cattle even need you to grind it a bit to break the outter shell, cattle can then digest it, people still need it to be refined further, need it cooked and some crop isn't suitable quality for human feed, suitable storage for human consumption is ALOT more expensive, methods for preservation of grain for human consumption is ALOT more expensive
No more wrangling for you then I guess
like to have more infro. on price and ava. to get it ship to gonzales louisiana
Not his property? Do you think the cows live like wild animals out on the prarie, and that we still have to go hunting to get meat? Cows are owned by farmers! That means the calf is the property of the farmer.
The tagging is done to tell them apart. its a way of giving the cow a "name", (a number).
Global warming happens now and then naturally, but have never before happened as fast as it does now! This is what concern people, the fact that we speed up global warming just by building and driving cars, and keeping cows that fart.
was sich die Menschen nicht alles ein fallen lassen??? Damit kann man Menschen auch einfangen???
and of what use to us are these species, do we feed on them do they have a positive impact on our environment other than being some sort of entertainment where tourists can go spot them? it is a moral issue, i couldn't care less about some parrot in some forest, or some rare beautiful mushroom or whatever. if your point is about feeding starving people then i'm afraid with an ever growing population more land must be used for farming, and if not then farms must become more efficient.
que loco
and how many people can a cow feed?? many cows produce over 20 litres of milk a day, that will feed atleast 10 people would it not? and no, feeding a person 50kg of hay or maize meal will not feed them at all, you have to further refine the grain first, add to that the fact that most of the plant is lost because we can't eat the stalk of the maize plant. you really aren't getting it, people cannot eat the same food a cow eats, and even when we eat corn and grains we don't fully digest them.
Di certo....
wieso
sorry but that is a moral issue, it's got nothing to do with efficiency, which you are claiming factory farms are lacking compared to some hippie vegan vegetable plot.
what the FUCK did I just watch?!!
that's cool man run down into cage.
what i'm trying to tell you is this, farming cattle to produce alot of food is easy and can be done in almost any climate, farming specialist high protein food for vegan diets are not able to be grown in harsh climates and even in the climates they are grown in are not cost effective to grow to supply the majority of the population with food. this whole eco living is just political nonsense, and it doesn't add up in the real world.