Raspberry Pi 4 8GB & USB Boot

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
  • Raspberry Pi 4 8GB and Raspberry Pi OS overview and demo, plus booting a Pi 4 from USB via a beta firmware update. These really are exciting times for the wonderful world of Pi! :)
    If you enjoy this video, you may also like my other Pi 4 episodes, including:
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    NOTE ON INSTALLING BETA USB BOOT FIRMWARE
    In this video I show how I configured three Raspberry Pi 4s to boot from USB. Please note that these instructions are provided in good faith, but that you install any beta firmware at your own risk. There is also no guarantee that what is shown in the video will work on your Pi 4 with your particular USB drives or USB SATA adapters. It is called beta firmware for a reason! Fairly soon the official Pi 4 USB boot firmware will be available, and waiting for this release is a safer option.
    If you are familiar with the Raspberry Pi RUclips and wider community, you may notice that the process I use to install the beta firmware involves fewer steps than included in many other guides. In part this is because I flashed the June 6th 2020 firmware (pieeprom-2020-06-03.bin), and not the initial May 15th file (pieeprom-2020-05-15.bin) used in many other videos and tutorials. The latter required fixes to be made to a Raspberry Pi OS installation. But at the time of writing (June 9th 2020), the June 6th firmware did not.
    Some other tutorials also execute unnecessary commands, as well as editing the rpi-eeprom-update file located in the Pi’s /etc/default/ directory. Specifically they change the environment variable “FIRMWARE_RELEASE_STATUS” in this file from “critical” to “beta”. As far as I am aware, this variable tells the Pi which category of firmware update to automatically install. However, it is also my understanding, as well as my practical experience, that this environment variable is ignored by the rpi-eeprom-update utility if you do a manual install with a -f flag included, followed by the location and name of a specific firmware file. Indeed, the -h help information for the rpi-eeprom-update utility states that the -f option installs “the given file instead of the latest applicable update”.
    If you have changed “FIRMWARE_RELEASE_STATUS” from “critical” to “beta”, then your Pi will in the future automatically pick up beta firmware updates, which may not be what you want it to do! So if you have followed another guide and edited this file, my strong suggestion is to change “beta” back to “critical”. Of course, I may be wrong about all of this. But this is the best information I can provide.
    More videos on computing and related topics can be found at:
    / explainingcomputers
    You may also like my ExplainingTheFuture channel at: / explainingthefuture
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:40 Pi 4 Models
    03:48 Raspberry Pi OS
    10:30 USB Boot demo
    12:57 Firmware Update
    18:06 Happy Birthday
    #RaspberryPi #RaspberryPiOS #Pi4USB #ExplainingComputers
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  • @PrajjalakChattopadhyay
    @PrajjalakChattopadhyay 4 года назад +193

    I'm a Physics masters (MSc) student from India, and since I don't have a laptop, I'm using the RPi4 4GB model. It just works fine for my tasks - programming in Fortran90, C, python, plotting in gnuplot, doing complicated calculations in GNU octave (CLI) etc. It's a cheap but beautiful thing for students.

    • @AtlantaTerry
      @AtlantaTerry 3 года назад +36

      If you look into the history of the Raspberry Pi, you will come to understand that it was designed for students to do exactly what you are doing with it.

    • @FuzzyElf
      @FuzzyElf 3 года назад +1

      Hurrah!

    • @defencebangladesh4068
      @defencebangladesh4068 3 года назад +1

      Perfect fit

    • @41708
      @41708 3 года назад +1

      You are the perfect case that demonstrates the utility of this SBC.
      We are trying to promote it's use on arabic speaking communities, to take people away from dependance on android phones to something more powerful and educational. Here is an (imperfect)attempt to do that; ruclips.net/video/Wr_UgTKkrpw/видео.html
      We all do our best my friend, the world needs us.
      Thanks to Chris we are all here discussing these "insects"

    • @markharrisllb
      @markharrisllb 2 года назад +2

      I hope 2020/21 didn’t have too negative impact on your studies.

  • @eeyoreofborg
    @eeyoreofborg 4 года назад +156

    This guy is the Bob Ross of tech. Happy little processes.

    • @RoborobsComputers
      @RoborobsComputers 3 года назад +4

      That's funny cause it is so true.

    • @MGSncB
      @MGSncB 2 года назад

      The mic needs to be adjusted a bit, though. A bit too sharp. "32" sounds like "sir-ty two"

  • @tonysanderson7741
    @tonysanderson7741 3 года назад +46

    I really like how Intuitive and thorough this guy is, he really acticulates very well

  • @drcesmartins
    @drcesmartins 4 года назад +7

    Chris your unboxing while you are describing your feelings about it make your videos the best ones! Furthermore the technical explanation, indeed. Keep rocking!

  • @omnivorace
    @omnivorace 4 года назад +64

    Raspberry PI is my musical server, connected on a DAC, and I use Audacious to manage the library (on a 7" screen). Once again, like my interest for Linux, I discovered all this by EC. Thanks a lot Christopher ! :)

  • @tedoyle61
    @tedoyle61 4 года назад +24

    I've always used my pi(s) for small services like dhcp, etc. I think the continual progress is great. I may grab one of the 8 gb models and setup a workstation around and see how it goes. But the video you created is a wonderful video. Thanks so much!

  • @adammoores8190
    @adammoores8190 4 года назад +69

    That bookshelf is something else, really.. really good stuff hahahah "and an interview .. with mee!" love it m8, keep up the good work

  • @shamrock1961
    @shamrock1961 4 года назад +5

    EXCELLENT VIDEO CHRIS as always!!! I learn more from you in less than 20 min. time than from anyone else. PLEASE keep up the great work. You really help us aged over 60 crowd make good sense out these new technologies. As a Linux user for more than 10 years I find products like the Pi as a liberating opportunity to down size for so many daily tasks. Thanks again!

  • @CenturionKZ
    @CenturionKZ 4 года назад +82

    The man is XIX century English nobleman and futuristic/progressive nerd at the same time.

    • @chborger185
      @chborger185 3 года назад

      or MCM -ESDproof take a 65,6168FEET gpio HONEYwell MICROswitch runs's 24/7 more over YEARS congratulation Thx oe5RDS 77.5Khz 107.3Mhz HtopJOB's

  • @taidee
    @taidee 4 года назад +7

    Great to see you featured on a magazine Prof, let the world know more about your massive amount of work, not just in academia 🤟🏾🙏🏾

  • @RoboNuggie
    @RoboNuggie 4 года назад +8

    That was great.... thank you, and the news that they have a Beta of this new firmware, brilliant news indeed.
    Well, Christopher - I must say that your place in the Raspberry Pi hall of fame is well deserved! Your contribution will be accessible to thousands of pupils across the world if they ever need help with their Pi :-)

  • @ctbinary42
    @ctbinary42 4 года назад +28

    That is a nifty little board! It's given me a few ideas now that it can boot from a USB drive. Thanks as always, Chris

    • @totophi
      @totophi 4 года назад +1

      InscrutableOwl : May I ask what sort of ideas? 😎

    • @PeterScargill
      @PeterScargill 4 года назад +2

      Just bear in mind that a USB stick is neither faster nor more reliable than an SD. A decent USB3 SSD drive on the other hand, should be.

  • @tbernesto0912
    @tbernesto0912 4 года назад +7

    As Always, a Very Professional Work Describing how Technology Interacts.
    Thank You Chris.. !!!

  • @TheSpicerider125
    @TheSpicerider125 4 года назад +8

    You wrote the latest OS for PI 4. Well done my friend, You're the Big Boss. Your videos are amazing. Thanks a lot.

    • @laineg.4468
      @laineg.4468 3 года назад

      New OS is great!

    • @earlsciambrajr.841
      @earlsciambrajr.841 3 года назад

      That's because Christopher Barnett is the still very alive Steve Jobs/John Lennon.

  • @henntendo
    @henntendo 4 года назад +1

    Was busy today, so I’m just sitting down for my favourite time of the week! A new ExplainingComputers video!

  • @ki4dbk
    @ki4dbk 3 года назад

    Thank you for the calm and patient Raspberry Pi videos. Cheers!

  • @lungaro
    @lungaro 4 года назад +20

    Where do I begin? The RPI helps me love and learn linux. I use my RPI4 (4GB) as a NAS (Samba), Webserver (Apache) with Owncloud, VPN Router (OpenVPN), currently testing Wireguard as a personal VPN. It has become the heart of my network.
    Well done to the Raspberry Pi Foundation. I had a BBC Micro growing up, and the new bookshelf app reminds me of the computer books my father used to buy in the 80's.

    • @andynl6443
      @andynl6443 4 года назад +2

      Nice! With clustering 8GB versions you can try doing the same and more in home made datacentre using Ansible, Kubernetes and Docker containers, and monitoring via Prometheus and Grafana.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 4 года назад +2

      @@andynl6443 a 64-bit arm version of Gitlab exists it seems... having a 3 node cluster wouldn't be a bad idea having all the data distributed properly so that the loss of one means everything keeps working

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 4 года назад

      If my Pi server goes down, half my network stops working... so I got a new 8GB to join the 4GB and have doubled up all the most important network services containers and VMs haha

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 4 года назад

      @@autohmae Gitea works on ARM64 as well :)

    • @soulest2081
      @soulest2081 4 года назад +1

      I would recommend looking at SoftEther VPN as well.

  • @SuperHaunts
    @SuperHaunts 4 года назад +4

    Just what I was waiting for!

  • @hasansalim1868
    @hasansalim1868 2 года назад +1

    Happy to buy this model. Didn't know it can boot from a USB till I watched this video. Thanks Chris for your efforts.

  • @augurseer
    @augurseer 4 года назад +2

    Chris. I loved the 2012 PI side by side. Omg you brought me back. I met Eben Upton at a conference in Toronto in 2012 before the launch and he made me fall in love with this project. I have owned every PI. Sold a few to pay for upgrades :). So much happy memories.

  • @SixOThree
    @SixOThree 4 года назад +62

    I use my Pi4 as a kitchen computer with an old 4:3 19" LCD. I use it for recipes and for watching youtube videos while I'm working in the kitchen. I have a Pi3 as a CUPS and pihole server.

    • @Cneqq
      @Cneqq 4 года назад +3

      damn that actually sounds like a good idea lol

    • @tortysoft
      @tortysoft 4 года назад +3

      I've stuck an old iPad on the kitchen wall ( very old iPad ).

    • @michealdumasii5432
      @michealdumasii5432 4 года назад +1

      How does it connects to a monitor etc., through USB/HDMI male/female connectors?

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 3 года назад +1

      Did they actually fix the card reader boot issues? Like my comment on this vid, I spent literally 24 hours of troubleshooting to get Raspbian on pi3, and the only thing that worked was an ancient card purchased 15 years ago for my camera, with like 3 gb storage.

  • @dffabryr
    @dffabryr 4 года назад +4

    I think the USB boot it is a great step forward and yes ! Raspberry is closer to replace desktop computers, we even consider it while working to move 300 people using desktop computers from the office to their homes. Once again congratulations for your excellent videos Chris. Kind regards from Chile!

  • @AlKaBen
    @AlKaBen 4 года назад +1

    Sunday after sunday I become an even earlier viewer.
    The video I did not know i needed!
    Great channel EC !

  • @softstart100
    @softstart100 3 года назад

    I purchased the pi4/4 GB to use as a mobile amateur radio interface utilizing the software hampi. Then I found your channel which has me hooked on something I know nothing about ( raspberrypi) so far not coding or trying to be a programmer which I'm not, this has been Interesting and fun. Now to remove the ad card and upgrade to a ssd to boot from and run. Thanks for all your efforts and sharing information to help others (me).

  • @MdFahimMuntasir
    @MdFahimMuntasir 4 года назад +3

    Extraordinary as always!

  • @termile510
    @termile510 4 года назад +341

    This guy never ages... wish I knew the secret

    • @AndrewJackson2000
      @AndrewJackson2000 4 года назад +44

      The secret ingredient is -Umpa Lumpa -Slurm juice... Produced by Willy Wonka from Futurama time.

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 4 года назад +65

      He's a master with 3D graphics, you think that's a real person talking? :)

    • @garrockwaters304
      @garrockwaters304 4 года назад +9

      He's a ROBOT!!!

    • @USMCasper
      @USMCasper 4 года назад +10

      He created the deepfake software. This isn't really him. Just a simulation.

    • @supahfly_uk
      @supahfly_uk 4 года назад +8

      The secret is SBC's

  • @steelfalconx2000
    @steelfalconx2000 4 года назад

    Nice! I've been waiting for this review since the teaser. I find pis fascinating!

  • @totem168
    @totem168 4 года назад +1

    At last the waited video is arrive.
    As usual nicely done, thank you Chris.

  • @saturno_tv
    @saturno_tv 4 года назад +3

    Simply the best stuff of all. Never fails!

  • @IrishRasta
    @IrishRasta 4 года назад +5

    Congratulations on the feature Chris :)

  • @josephturner1119
    @josephturner1119 4 года назад +2

    Chris, This video was exactly what I was looking for. I was researching other SBC's because I wanted to run on an NVME or SSD. After watching, I decided to take a chance and install the 2020-06-15 EPROM, and it worked! This was a game-changer because I am converting and consolidating a few of my older Pi's to run off of a Docker server I have set up on my 4b. Currently, I have independent pi's running Pihole and Octoprint. Now, I'll be migrating those to my 4b Docker server.

  • @GraemeWant
    @GraemeWant 4 года назад

    Brilliant as usual. Thanks for that USB Boot update as well.

  • @paullandry6573
    @paullandry6573 4 года назад +13

    Another Sunday another great video. Thank you sir. BTW, whenever I wear my Mister Scissors shirt in public I get asked if I am a barber. LOL.

  • @MartinBgelund
    @MartinBgelund 4 года назад +13

    I recently bought the Pi4 8Gb along with the Argon One aluminium cooling case, previously tested here on this channel.
    I've set it up with Raspberry Pi OS 32-bit and will use it as my Linux system, which I access using VNC Viewer from Windows 10.
    Until now I've had a Linux/Windows dual boot setup. But this way I can have both systems entirely separate.
    I'm looking forward to the USB boot coming out of beta, so that I can skip the SD card.
    Thanks Chris, for this great video.
    And you really have earned to be directly featured in an operating system :-)

  • @resrussia
    @resrussia 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for a great video on the new 8 GB Raspberry Pi. Your channel is a great place to keep up to date on the developments. I think the Raspberry Pi 4 with 8 GB with 64-bit operating system will be a game changer and bring the Pi more into the mainstream. I thinking about getting one for my dad for simple email and web surfering as the video back looks relatively good and with a SSD (after the firmware is out of beta). As always, keep up the good work!

  • @andrewnichols7410
    @andrewnichols7410 4 года назад +1

    new to the Pi world, having a blast. Your video is fantastic for anyone who wants to learn. Thank you much!

  • @ezContents
    @ezContents 4 года назад +112

    A big advancement with the booting from SSD. No more worries with the swap partition and writing log files on the SD card.

    • @KaelumYodi
      @KaelumYodi 4 года назад +6

      An SSD and an SD card use the exact same technology. Both have the exact same write limits. So don’t go celebrating that you can write to a specific location more times, as you can’t. The only difference is that with an SD card the OS needs to manage write failures, whereas the SSD does it internally.
      FYI, I will not respond to anyone commenting about things that I have not discussed. I will only respond to what I have said above

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 4 года назад +6

      @@KaelumYodi I think I will keep to myself what I think about those first two sentences because, well, would not exactly be kind words. My god...

    • @kataseiko
      @kataseiko 4 года назад +3

      My big question now is: Will that firmware update also roll out for Pi3 devices or will it be the big improvement that will make us upgrade to Pi4?

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 4 года назад +6

      @@KaelumYodi A good SD card yes while most SSDs use good NAND Flash while you ca nstill buy a cheap SD card with bad NAND Flash on it. Most people do not want a bad hard drive but most people don't know much about SD cards.

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin 4 года назад +8

      @@KaelumYodi Your right, an SSD contains a controller that's able to do things like wear-leveling and caching, but its also worth noting that most SSD contain higher quality NAND flash chips that are rated for much higher write cycles than an SD card (which is really meant for sequential writes a handful of times, like in a camera).

  • @MikeCatrone
    @MikeCatrone 4 года назад +22

    The increased memory would be great for virtual devices and app development on the go. A tiny little programmer device is what I would like to build

    • @AndyPayne42
      @AndyPayne42 4 года назад

      I can use it for my camera application because I store video in memory to scan for motion changes and then decide to dump to disk github.com/physiii/open-automation/tree/dev

  • @rogerkoh1979
    @rogerkoh1979 4 года назад +2

    Indeed booting from USB is great event. Big storage is required as people run more stuff.
    The long awaited 64bit os. Something to look out for. Another great show.

  • @tomaszto
    @tomaszto 4 года назад +2

    Chris you doing amazing job! details in your videos and complex explaining of the subjects is the key. ...and raspberry pi cooling tests - proper nerd :)

  • @JimHendrickson
    @JimHendrickson 4 года назад +4

    USB boot is certainly an exciting development, though I'll probably wait for the non-beta release. It would be interesting to see a performance comparison on boot times over the SSD vs the micro SD.

  • @techman2471
    @techman2471 4 года назад +10

    I will replace my RaspPi 3B with the RaspPi 4 4GB for now. I would love to build a NUC-like portable minicomputer for testing and recording data at work.

  • @delta-game
    @delta-game 4 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this one, thx Chris

  • @Hombre1968
    @Hombre1968 4 года назад +1

    I've just found this channel and I think it's excellent - well done and please keep producing such informative videos, it's like being 12 years old with my BBC Model B again!

  • @jonmahashintina
    @jonmahashintina 4 года назад +19

    looks like a saucy interview full of gossip and bombshells.

  • @BeOurBee
    @BeOurBee 4 года назад +9

    1) I have a 4GB model on the way to use as a media server, my first foray into NAS hardware or software, and my first time converting all my disc-based media to files. I also ordered one of those alumin(i)um heatsink cases after watching your passive cooling video, to avoid throttling and pretty up the board a bit.
    I hope to have it attached via Ethernet to a WiFi extender in another part of my home with a 5GHz backhaul to the mane router. I have as couple of Pi 3 (not-plus) boards to use for playback on dumb TVs, so I'm going to try some Kodi-oriented images on those. Another first time project!
    2) I have a slightly different version of that model B, with a black audio jack and D14 populated on the board (bottom side). It's sitting in a dusty old Lego case I built shortly after buying it, right after release. One thing I liked is that the board's dimensions were extremely Lego-friendly and it fits snugly into a space of 11 by 7 Lego studs (with allowances for the ports). Sadly, not the case for the newer versions of the Pi!
    I was just wondering the other day if it was worth using versus a Pi Zero W for a networked music player build. The extra RAM and faster CPU are probably worth it, along with integrated WiFi.
    3) How are you liking the new Chapter feature for RUclips videos?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +3

      Thanks for this. I very much like the chapter feature -- but it gives me something else to do! :)

  • @MichelMorinMontreal
    @MichelMorinMontreal 4 года назад +1

    Greetings! It must be acknowledged that over the past year, our colleagues at Raspberry have been surprising us with constantly renewed and highly "competitive" components in the SBC field. With the huge community attached to it, it is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid becoming "Raspberry attached"! Thanks - of course - for this brillant presentation.

  • @dwarf365
    @dwarf365 4 года назад +1

    5 days late, however you can go to the beta eeprom folder click on tools and open folder in terminal. that way you don't have to type in the full path. This has been the only method I was able to successfully get working. I can ALWAYS count on Prof. Chris! Thank you SO much for all that you do!

  • @oscarl-b8870
    @oscarl-b8870 4 года назад +10

    Good to see the pi continuing to evolve! I’m still using a 2B, running ADS-B flight tracking ✈️

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад +2

      Hope your using a decent collinear antenna for best results ;).

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 4 года назад +1

      My OG 256MB Model B is still running a stratum-1 NTP server that I am mad enough to put in the public pool...

  • @legojenn
    @legojenn 4 года назад +9

    When I returned to Uni in 2014, I bought a mac mini and macbook air to permit me to use proprietary software for the programme. They're still running well and I'm in no hurry to buy a new laptop now that I'm in grad school and less dependent on proprietary tools. I do, however, miss having a Linux desktop. The 8 Gig Pi might help me with my Linux fix and put off a PC purchase a little further into the future. If only Mint would run on the Pi, it would be somewhat nifty. Thank you for the review.

    • @BoonieOetGelaen
      @BoonieOetGelaen 4 года назад

      The 2GB model will probably be more than you need. I would save some €€€ and nog go for 8GB.

    • @h.b.5577
      @h.b.5577 4 года назад

      Why not just install linux on the macbook air or mac mini? If storage is a problem you can simply upgrade the drives or boot from thunderbolt or usb. A pi is a great machine, but if I’ve already have both a usable laptop and desktop I’d just use them instead...

  • @guilhermeserpa690
    @guilhermeserpa690 2 года назад +1

    Hi, Mr Barnatt. I am new to your channel. By far the best RUclips channel ever made. I have started rebooting my old computers, updating firmwares, things like that. Soooo exciting, to just bring an EeePc back to life! Cheers!

  • @jerryd8022
    @jerryd8022 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this. I would've given up and not even thought about testing a thumb drive to confirm USB boot worked at all. It did. I just bought a different cable brand and now have HassOS installed and running beautifully on the new 8GB! Much appreciated dude!!!

  • @bensekh
    @bensekh 4 года назад +19

    This is what I waiting for...

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +5

      Glad to hear it!

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад +4

      Why?, the extra memory is not a performance booster in the way you think.

    • @stevetobias4890
      @stevetobias4890 4 года назад +2

      I want them to include SATA connectivity like the banana pi and orange pi. Then it would be the definite winner of them all, not that it isn't already but why can knockoffs include SATA and the raspberry still hasn't a few releases later

    • @williamhorton9763
      @williamhorton9763 4 года назад

      🥈

    • @stevetobias4890
      @stevetobias4890 4 года назад

      @@josephtremblant2173 this is an expansion board, it should be on the mainboard with an option to boot to SATA

  • @NewAgeDIY
    @NewAgeDIY 4 года назад +10

    My Pi collection is growing ever 4 months it appears.
    Finding a suitable projects is a problem. My Pi 4 4GB is a NAS , my new Pi 4 8 GB is operating as my latest daily driver (Desktop)
    Thanks Chris for your review.
    PS
    Your background information in the comment section is greatly appreciate Chris. Will done

    • @theJesai
      @theJesai 4 года назад

      You use a Raspberry Pi as a daily device!? Wow! How's the performance?

    • @NewAgeDIY
      @NewAgeDIY 4 года назад

      J T /. Thanks for the question.
      As a long time Maker, I have a number of computers ranging from a Ryzen 7 2700 to 27” iMac i7.
      I have setup my new Raspberry Pi 4 8GB to be able to run different office programs. Not to get into to much information I use different cloud based storage systems that I save all my files to. When I’m on my Pi I can call up anything I needs from Spreadsheets and word documents that I have saved from different computers including the Pi
      I also do photo editing using my Pi’s. because I’m working on different projects all the time having a computer that can be setup almost anywhere has it advances. Most people don’t realize that the Pi is just as powerful as any modern day tablet or even any low cost laptop.
      If you haven’t already picked up one yet you can get Raspberry Pi 4 2GB model and it will run the same as the 4 & 8 GB model. Just remember to get a case with a fan for it at the start.

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube 4 года назад

    Was busy gaming, so could not watch once the notification popped up. But this video introduces some quite powerful SBC. A Pie board with 8 GB ram, how far we've come. And the most amazing thing with this board is, it could become an actual desktop replacement, if not doing graphic intensive things.
    Gracias Chris.

  • @ronaldronald8819
    @ronaldronald8819 4 года назад +1

    Hi Chris. The RP4 i use for home automation (home assistant). You can imagine how happy i was with the news that the PI4 is now capable of booting from usb.

  • @tubegor
    @tubegor 4 года назад +15

    I have Raspberry Pi 4 8GB since July 2019, so I bought 2 pieces with 4GB back then :) But seriously, SD out SSD on it, this is new era for RPI. We have waited long enough for this.

    • @sethrd999
      @sethrd999 4 года назад +5

      An interesting observation is everyone is welcoming this boot over USB when eMMC boots just as fast without taking up a USB port, and yet oh but no wifi ( with other boards ) and I have to use a dongle O_o sorry there is alot of irony here with bias i think.

    • @billrichard9730
      @billrichard9730 4 года назад +5

      Hopefully it will be an expansion that fits under the board. I have seen a few others which put it outside the board or require a fancy rig to tuck under

    • @tubegor
      @tubegor 4 года назад +3

      @@sethrd999 Thanks for your information about wifi, I would never notice that because my RPI is in a solid aluminum housing and so RPI and I always have the same temperature 36.6 ° C (both of us at full load). Unfortunately, when it comes to SD cards, they don't live that long (they are not made for permanent access). For loss of a USB3 port I bought a USB3 (4X) hub with switches. I see no ironic bias here but an objective criticism and it is always welcome.

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад +3

      @@sethrd999 emmc is handy storage, but not as fast a SSD on a usb.

    • @tubegor
      @tubegor 4 года назад +2

      @@williamrutter3619 That's right hdparm test shows:
      sudo hdparm -t / dev / sda1 shows 320.31 MB / sec for SSD
      sudo hdparm -t / dev / mmcblk0 shows only 70 MB / sec for SD card
      320MB and 70MB is a difference, SSD is 4.6 times faster

  • @stevenlischer
    @stevenlischer 4 года назад +4

    All of this is neat, but I've never seen the Pi as a desktop replacement and I'm a little worried the Pi Foundation is pushing too hard in that direction. I love the Pi because its a great integrated computer for robotics and controls hobbyists and I hope they don't forget that. Would love to see things like integrated ADCs, realtime clocks, CANbus/ISObus, or an FPGA onboard.

  • @steveshadowphoto9346
    @steveshadowphoto9346 3 года назад +1

    Chris, I was inspired by your video so I bought myself a Western Digital M.2 120gb and followed along. You'll be happy to know that it worked! Me and my Raspberry PI thank you!

  • @k.b.tidwell
    @k.b.tidwell 3 года назад +1

    Finally! Chris has illuminated that feeling that working with certain older technology gives me...it's "reassuring". I'll add "relaxing" and "blissful" at times.

  • @delta-game
    @delta-game 4 года назад +38

    10:16 smile more Chris, we all love you

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +29

      :)

    • @ozzymandius666
      @ozzymandius666 4 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Great smile. That aside, its too bad Microsoft doesn't open source their stuff. With this 8GB version, Id love to see a lean VM engine running enough of a Windows kernel+drivers to take advantage of the SW compatibility. Its still a nightmare to find a Linux-compatible eprom programmer, for example.

    • @MrBratkenSolov
      @MrBratkenSolov 3 года назад

      in that face i see an ultimate urge to talk to you again

  • @MrJozza65
    @MrJozza65 4 года назад +65

    Whilst the 8GB is an improvement to the Pi, I think that the OS and firmware updates are more exciting. Being able to boot from and use an SSD as the main drive is a major improvement to the Pi; it will open up a whole lot of new opportunities to use it as a more fully featured computer, and the option to run a 64 bit OS may come in handy for programs which make use of that. I would still like to see improved graphics drivers though, as I understand it the on board graphics are still being throttled by the lack of driver support for more GFX intensive programs.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +14

      We are in agreement I think! :)

    • @yxcvbnmmnbvcxy544
      @yxcvbnmmnbvcxy544 4 года назад +4

      With all of the improvements in the os my pi 2b can now play video on VLC media player, browsing is ok and RUclips also works if you're patient enough to load the site and go to full screen. When the pi 2 came out video playback were still frames with choppy audio and 100% CPU.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 4 года назад +5

      @@ExplainingComputers I don't fully understand the excitement, you could always just boot from a SD-card (/boot) and use USB-device as root. Thus not even touching the SD-card anymore only reading it at book and no reading/writing during normal operations. Is it just that people don't know how, or to much work ?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +12

      @@autohmae It is neither "don't know how" or "too much work". The Pi before could not boot from USB, as you make clear. It now can, and that opens up many possibilities. Hybrid boot setups are hardly ideal or common.

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 4 года назад +3

      @@ExplainingComputers I don't see the big deal with hybrid setup being "bad" at all? It literally is only active for a few seconds at the very start of the boot process and then doesn't get touched again until next boot or a bootloader update. I've been running my Pi4s with Ubuntu like this since the 4GB came out with no issues I didn't cause myself by trying to mess with that setup.

  • @keithmiller9665
    @keithmiller9665 4 года назад +2

    Another excellent video Chris, thank you. I am going to wait until everything is stable, both with 64 bit OS and SSD boot. Gives me time to save up for 8GB Pi4 !

  • @mirzosharifjalolov4247
    @mirzosharifjalolov4247 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for short and concise presentation!

  • @waynenewark5363
    @waynenewark5363 4 года назад +3

    I must admit I like to see boot messages as an indication that something is happening. If the start-up sticks you are soon aware of it.
    I have installed both Nagios and COPS on a headless Raspberry Pi3.

  • @Electromakerio
    @Electromakerio 4 года назад +13

    Eagle-eyed Raspberry Pi fans would have noticed that information on the 8GB version was leaked on compliance leaflet of the Raspberry Pi 4! ruclips.net/video/SgK5g8kmZ7E/видео.html

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video. I must say, it doesn’t seem like a year since the release of the pi4. How time flies. I don’t have one yet, but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time. Still running a 3b with Retropie at present, plus a version 1 that I used to extract EEPROM data from an original Xbox.

  • @dilipsharan8699
    @dilipsharan8699 4 года назад

    Worth the wait for this video. I bought the Raspberry Pi 4B in the first place to command my Telescope + Mount + Camera set up while connecting from inside the house. I use the KSTARS + EKOS INDI astronomy software to do this. However I soon found I could use it for lots of other things. I recently bought the FreeNova electronic project kit from Amazon and am happily teaching myself Python while making LED blink and motors purr. I'm even using the Pi to watch this RUclips video. In fact I'm spending more and more of my spare time on the pi. I'm hoping that more memory and a 64 bit o/s will make the pi even more capable when using my astronomy software which has a lot of graphics and also for other uses.

  • @dr.horror138
    @dr.horror138 4 года назад +3

    waiting for a new chip, now I’ll buy my first raspberry pi

    • @billrichard9730
      @billrichard9730 4 года назад

      Be sure to look at other videos on what to do with it. Lots of versitile things. P,us free online magazines

  • @heinrichkeyser4217
    @heinrichkeyser4217 4 года назад +5

    I totally agree, the fact that we can boot from usb is way more exciting than the 8GB RAM.

  • @JeanBrito666
    @JeanBrito666 4 года назад +1

    Im using the beta version since May and is working very well. USB Boot is a must to Raspberries.

  • @vidasvv
    @vidasvv 3 года назад +1

    Great intro for the Pi 4, TNX 4 the upload !

  • @pianosdeaf
    @pianosdeaf 4 года назад +5

    Me: Hey Pi 5 whatcha cooking?
    Pi 5: M.2 SSD port

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад

      I have had a look, it seems unlikely, you would need 4 PCI lanes to work properly, a bit expensive, and if you just stick one on it's not going run at the full speed, like on the rock pi 4, booting from usb once official is great.

  • @World_Theory
    @World_Theory 4 года назад +6

    (Fair warning: I don't say much of importance in the following comment.)
    Once the 64bit OS version comes out of beta, it might ge just what I need. I recently revived my old desktop computer that was sold in 2007 or 08, and it has a bunch of issues with compatibility with modern … everything. It was actually a fairly high end computer when sold at the time, but now it just … a fancy calculator. It's sound card isn't detected at all. There's some issue with the videocard which was actually a newer (relatively) addition, that locks the screen resolution to 640 by 480 and 73fps exactly. The card is an Nvidia GTS 450. And then I have a separate but related issue that none of the available monitors I have can use HDMI as an input. (There's a TV that technically has the ports for it, but something's wrong with the board in the TV, so only the VGA input works. That's actually why I have it, it wouldn't connect with a Roku's output, so it got given to me.) The computer also has just shy of 4GB of RAM. And the upgrade slots for installing new video cards and suchlike are version 2, x16 pins. (Forgot the proper name of the slot. But I could look it up again if needed.) So even with forwards compatibility built in, data transfer speeds will still be limited to the version 2 standard. So… While I have some video, and no sound, and barely adequate RAM, and a very early Intel 4 core processor, it's just a pain to use. Oh! I forgot to mention the mouse! I'm using a ball mouse. Without a scroll wheel. Though it does have a middle mouse button which lets me pan windows by holding down and dragging. I have spent a considerable amount of time changing settings and messing around with different desktop environments, to get a UI with compact enough buttons and text, to use properly with my 640x480 screen resolution. It's appalling how many programs UI aren't built to allow the window to be resized small enough to fit inside a 680x480 area, especially system settings windows.
    Sorry about the rant. I think I just needed to get that off my chest. But anyway, in summary, even if this Raspberry 4 8GB was by chance less computationally powerful than my ~12 year old computer, it should still be able to manage to give me a screen large enough to see things on, and to bless my ears with beautiful sound, which I have been missing dearly. And to top it off, it might have a chance of having more accessible RAM than my old computer, eventually. I'll still be using LXQT for my desktop environment though. (I've never used Raspbian, but it looked like it might already be using either LXQT or LXDE, judging by the Task Manager's process name.)
    Thanks for the video!

    • @GiulianoMazzina
      @GiulianoMazzina 4 года назад

      I just bought one finally because of the 64bit os being available now. I have an old unused SSD ready for booting to and ya, time to start tinkering. Maybe I'll try a USB gigabit ethernet port and see if it can run Pfsense.

  • @ikichullo
    @ikichullo 4 года назад +2

    Your videos are always so straight to the point I love it!

  • @petermitchell2448
    @petermitchell2448 4 года назад +1

    Another very informative review, and as you say so many choices now with the Pi.

  • @poppedweasel
    @poppedweasel 4 года назад +8

    Aaargh, I've got to go out now, until thiis evening. Can't wait!

  • @duncan94019
    @duncan94019 4 года назад +13

    I have several projects I'd like to do. First off I want to use a Pi as a dedicated email device. I have several friends who, like me, are older and not interested in learning the latest ins and outs of a computer. For us, the computer needs to be simple, reliable, and easy to use. So for my first project I want to roll out a simple, easily (perhaps even automatically) updateable machine that just does email and maybe some word processing. For me, that means something that, ideally, can be left on all the time or that powers on and comes up and logs onto email. It also needs to be able to print on a networked printer. I think the new OS and a 4GB Pi 4 is probably right for this job.
    As noted, I am older, but as an engineer who has made my living working on computers, I want to have my own VPN and NAS. I am not satisfied with the 1080p video, or I would like to use the Pi to repace my google cast system and use a simple interface to select various streaming video sources to my TV. I find my (age) contemporaries have a real problem selecting different HDMI inputs on their TVs. I think Pi can help solve this if they get the video improved.

    • @dffabryr
      @dffabryr 4 года назад +2

      While reading your post I remembered the mainframe era, those wonderful and rock solid computers such as IBM, Burroughs, Digital, Data General

    • @adammoores8190
      @adammoores8190 4 года назад +1

      I strongly recommend an odroid XU4 with Armbian, I'm able to host an nginx, PHP, elasticsearch, redis and mysql instance, and also run visual studio code AND make live edits using Firefox/Chrome element inspector for a complete webdev solution all under one tin lid and it barely breaks a sweat. I did try the rp4 for the same task but I had issues with CPU throttling that made it unusable though it did have a really.naff power supply which I'm not sure but believe are upgradable on the pi's. Using a powered usb hub did help but opted for the odroid and will probably continue with them for the foreseeable

    • @duncan94019
      @duncan94019 4 года назад

      @@adammoores8190 Thanks a lot!! I will do!

    • @duncan94019
      @duncan94019 4 года назад

      @Jules Moules I too have been playing with these things on the Pi 4. I'm not entirely satisfied with the results, but hopeful they will arrive. I am disappointed there has not been more progress in the last year. That is probably just unreasonable expectations on my part.

  • @harrychatwin
    @harrychatwin 4 года назад +1

    You can just tell that Christopher is a really nice and wholesome person just by the way he commentates his videos. Thank you Christopher for all these awesome videos, I really enjoy watching them and they're my favourite source of updates from all these pieces of hardwares and softwares. Have a nice day!

  • @carronthedesigner1484
    @carronthedesigner1484 2 года назад +1

    This was a great video! Your explanation was very simple and straight to the point. I appreciate that!

  • @ChrisShadowens
    @ChrisShadowens 4 года назад +7

    G'morning, Stanley! ☕🙂

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +5

      He says "hello". He is shy and cannot type here himself.

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers He'd only damage the keyboard if he did.

    • @JROwensPhotos
      @JROwensPhotos 4 года назад +1

      What, you think he can't cut it here in comments?

    • @Pygar2
      @Pygar2 4 года назад

      @@JROwensPhotos Pity. He's never dull...!

  • @dustinsippel1845
    @dustinsippel1845 4 года назад +3

    Watching this on a pi4 8GB, overclocked and running ubuntu. Nice...

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino 4 года назад +1

    Well I have already done all I ever wanted with a pi.. from adding an ssd hard drive to a model 3b and putting movies on it for the bedroom to using one as a small research computer in my shop.. But now I will have to make some better things with the 4.. after this project I am on it will be next.. (I am remodeling the house) Thanks Chris for keeping us posted on all the coolness out there.. carry on, and take care..

  • @wint3rxxx
    @wint3rxxx 4 года назад +1

    After you explaining RAMS to me... I've been enjoying your videos so much... thank you!

  • @AdamReakesHerdMentality
    @AdamReakesHerdMentality 4 года назад +24

    So, I've already done it... now I need to see if I Chris did it better. (He probably does, and with a video to cover it off.)

  •  4 года назад +6

    Why do thy use code on the memory chips instead of 2gyg, 4gyg and 8 gyg.

  • @karlsa6298
    @karlsa6298 2 года назад +1

    You video tutorial is still as useful today as when you first published it. You saved me lots of headache and I thank you for that! Cheers!

  • @andrewg1969
    @andrewg1969 4 года назад +1

    can i just say a big thank you for several reasons ,
    1 i have been putting off getting a 4 because of the heating issues and i was reassured by one of your great videos that they had fixed that
    2 this video showing me how to boot from a usb which eliminates the sd card problems

  • @DaveGagliardi
    @DaveGagliardi 4 года назад +66

    Chris, I understand that this can also boot from ethernet? Can you do a video on that also please?

    • @iflnr978
      @iflnr978 4 года назад +3

      i want the same video

    • @x91w
      @x91w 4 года назад +9

      @@iflnr978
      www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/net_tutorial.md

  • @SouravTechLabs
    @SouravTechLabs 4 года назад +5

    2 GB RAM + 2 GB ZRAM + Archlinux ARM 🔥🔥🔥

  • @kitkats2391
    @kitkats2391 4 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video! i've been looking forward to it since i heard about the 8GB model. Going to attempt to obtain one here soon and hopefully set it up as a desktop, test it, see if i can play some games on it. Set it up as a replacement for certain things! We'll see. Either way, it'll make a heckuva dedicated server! Thank you as always for your work.

  • @evertondave5825
    @evertondave5825 4 года назад

    What a great video, the Raspberry Pi is going from strength to strength

  • @ahoj113
    @ahoj113 4 года назад +3

    Great video as always :). But, couldn’t you boot rpi from usb before?
    By the way, I looked at the interview ;).

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      You could boot a Pi 3 from USB, but this is the first time a Pi 4 has been USB bootable. :)

    • @ahoj113
      @ahoj113 4 года назад +1

      ExplainingComputers oh, okay :)

  • @StefanRachev
    @StefanRachev 4 года назад +5

    So i have this project in mind about a box for dry-aging and cureing some meat delicateses... I will need a refrigerator, or a some other coolng solution(I really like those with a window on the door), a fan to put inside, a hunidifier and a dehumidifier.
    Then there goes the RaspberryPi, with 8 channel relay and DHT22 sensor....
    The idea is, to keep the temperature and humidity within some parameters, and the fan to help circulating the air...
    And in some point to start an apache server with a simple php script, to be able to control it from a distance...
    Further away in the future of havingall that done, i will add a 7" touch, some led lights, and a camera to create timelapses of the whole cureing process.
    All that being said, i need to do the math, if th GPIO will be enough to control all of that. (And to finish the total renovation of my apartment)

  • @TheDrunkenMug
    @TheDrunkenMug 4 года назад +1

    Nice job on the lab, and the barn.. I liked it !

  • @kirknelson156
    @kirknelson156 3 года назад

    been running my pi 4 as a NAS using open media vault and 2 usb 3 drives, and very happy with its performance

  • @Derfikjegdig
    @Derfikjegdig 4 года назад +16

    The price difference to jump to the 8GB version seems unreasonable, especially without proper 64-bit support. Makes some of the other SBCs more attractive for applications that needs that much RAM.
    But thanks again for making these videos showing us what is possible.

    • @tzokke
      @tzokke 4 года назад

      Are there any good non arm based SBCs with similar price and performance as the 4gb pi 4?

    •  4 года назад

      8GB ram cost £30.

    • @jsimmonstx
      @jsimmonstx 4 года назад +1

      What other SBC's are available with 8GB of RAM in this price range?

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 4 года назад

      the 64-bit is on the way, it's in beta, give it time

    • @krzysztofkot8427
      @krzysztofkot8427 4 года назад

      I think the first thing they should make is usb boot 100% sure without "it can damage your board"

  • @cx3268
    @cx3268 4 года назад +6

    My desktop PC is a Win7 machine. Hope to completely replace it.

  • @sirmeowcelot
    @sirmeowcelot 4 года назад +2

    thanks again for this great contribution to education. I happen to use an asiair pro to guide my telescope rig. and thanks to this videos I'm understanding more and more the magic behind the curtains.

  • @heatherlynn1962
    @heatherlynn1962 4 года назад

    Always enjoy your videos. Thanks!