Censorship on GMRS Repeaters? | Two Way Radio Show
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- We discuss the question of how much control a GMRS repeater operator can have over the use of their private repeater on a GMRS repeater channel. We’ll also take some of your comments and questions from our blog and our forum.
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If the control operator does not understand the language used, how do they enforce prohibited practices?
I believe it’s in the license that the language spoken (in the us) need to be English
Learn spanish... its the 1st ammendmenr just for english speakers?
@@1MasterLiWrong. If your in the states, than learn our language!
@@Robbie-sk6vc Wrong. If you're in the states, enjoy your freedom to speak any language you wish.
If the repeater owner doesn't speak that language he doesn't know what people are saying on his repeater pretty important.
Your constitutional rights only apply when you are dealing with the government, not another citizen. The owner of the repeater can make any rule they wish.
It is a simple answer. The REPEATER belongs to that person. If he does not want other languages on his repeater, discriminating or not, respect that. If you are using the simplex portion of GMRS, speak whatever language you want.
I saw a video with the FCC on it and they said your repeater your rules.
I think Danny has it 100% correct. It's the guys repeater. He has say, period! It also irritates me how people are adopting the mentality that if someone says something that hurts someone elses feelings, then it should be illegal. Grow up! People are jerks, it's our job as adults to be able to realize that and get over ourselves!
In amateur radio. If you are letting someone speak over your radio, YOU must be able to understand the language that is being spoken
Honestly If you own the repeater, you have the right to decide what goes.
The FCC really needs to update the GMRS rules and get with the times like they did recently with the ham baud rate. I would love if they allowed digital data other than short data bursts. Or maybe have an endorsement that allows for digital repeaters on GMRS. Whether that requires a test or additional fees, guess that would be up to them. I know that a person can always get the business license, but some of us don't have a business to do this. On my land, I tested using analog vs digital using my ham license on simplex. Digital is so efficient and I'm able to use the rubber duck antennas over the wobbly replacement whip antennas. I would love to completely switch family over to digital.
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I would like to know the same thing.
The repeater owner might own the repeater, but no one owns the frequencies!
Where I live, we only have two repeaters, and both are owned by the same person. I'm 100% ok with him setting any rule he wants; I get to use two repeaters for free.
"The guy has a right to impose a rule on his repeater but we are going to drag hypotheticals out for three-quarters of an hour"
I like to see what they're going to do up here in Canada as far as gmrs Radio Service and repeater stations I listen to ch 16 code 22 is where I hear the Alliance gmrs group in Buffalo New York once in awhile I hear a station in Mississauga Ontario and another Station in Belleville Ontario
The owner is well within his rights to have that rule. FCC rule does not apply to this situation. How a owner goes about enforcing that rule without leading to violence or malicious activity, that is the tricky part.
Rules are not laws
You can restrict access by writing a letter to the operator explaining that they are banned. We do this in the Amateur Radio world. They can also be reported to the FCC. Not sure what they would do for enforcement.
according to the FCC GMRS license covers all family members in one house and yes the owner has full control over his repeater his rules goes. I would not have an issue with this personally
Repeater operator could turn the repeater off like you mentioned. It takes a lot of rule breaking for the FCC to even write a mean letter to an operator telling them to stop doing something (unless they are interfering with emergency services etc). GMRS and ham issues are very low on the FCC priory list.
Quit beating this subject to death. I also witnessed this conversation. The Spanish speaking male was using a call sign but the female wasn’t. The call sign was registered in her name, I looked it up. She should have known this FCC Rule! As far as the language they were speaking being objected to, his repeater his rules and I’m good with that. Just so you know that I actually heard this conversation, the repeater name rhymes with powders. 😮
Also, the guy still uses the repeater so he must not have been put off by the request of the repeater owner as much as you were. Just saying!
WalMart uses MURS 154.600 and 154.570 MHz and it is not illegal to use these frequencies by others. WalMart seems to believe they are soul owners of these frequencies and will tell you they "own" these channels if they hear you talking on them. They even have their own rules about the use thereof. It is all about being considerate. MURS is an unlicensed low power service, normally used by businesses with little or no FCC regulation.
I think, as long as you ID and english, it should be fine.
I may not own a repeater, but if I did, the only thing I would ask is to give priority to those who have emergencies.
I like the idea of DMR on gmrs (DGMRS)
That alone would open up a lot of options.
What about single side band for gmrs? Is that type of modulation even workable on gmrs? Maybe someone with more info can answer that.
Digital audio is prohibited on GMRS. SSB is not a technology for repeaters (ham or GMRS). GMRS only allows for analog FM/PM voice, with very brief under-1-second digital bursts like MDC-1200 tones, "roger beeps" (ugh) or some format of APRS-like lat/long data. Hams can use FM/PM, DMR, D*Star, YSF, P-25, AMBE or anything else, so long as it's not ENC.
If you do not like the repeater owners rules, don’t use the repeater. Start your own and speak whatever language you prefer rather than trying to force repeater owners to cater to your wishes.
First off, was it necessary for the spanish people to actually use the repeater? As in Ham Radio, if you are close enough to use simplex (direct), do not use the repeater.
Well, you own the repeater but not the airwaves.
I was recently denied access to a local repeater because the owner didn’t like my email address.
Rick. I couldn't tell if you really meant "his repeater, his rules" or not. You said it but then you flip flopped so many times I lost track.
What if the repeater owner said no Blacks allowed? Would it be "his repeater, his rules?" He may own the repeater, but he doesn't own the airwawes. Those are a public good controlled by the federal government.
If the owner states English only on this repeater and someone insist on using Spanish or other languages just to intimidate the owner, that is being disrespectful to the owner and they are in the wrong - no two ways about it. If it is discriminating or racist in nature, that is too bad and should be taken up off the air. You take that risk when you get a radio.
Murs increase yes but it may step on marine band.
Wow. just wow. My repeater I can put the rules on it. If you don't like it don't use it. Can I come use your front lawn if you don't want me there? Your front yard is almost public because deliveries may be done to your front door.
Exactly, shut it off and get some money for the scrap metal.
GMRS was not meant to be a ragchew band
I agree with the repeater owner and you are making a big deal out of nothing. You sound like a sad ham(:
With a foreign language, how do you know who they are and what they are doing? With millions of illegals in the country, anything is possible, right? I don't have the answer, but something to be thinking about.
Where is that "Right to be on the air" documented.
Pretty sure all this is considered a privilege rather than a right!
So whos rights are "more" important or take presidence over someone else's rights, the owner has rights just the same as a user, their called personal property rights.
What social media platform is bound by ANY KIND OF FREE SPEECH at all, name me ONE???
I say no hiden messages that many may not understand .at the same time I'd let them talk another language in a very short message.amature ham says English only
They own it stay off!
********* Hi Rick............ America is a Nation of Immigrants AND ..English is not the official language of this Country, the USA, So with that said, I'm a European immigrant to this Country and a GMRS repeater owner, and try to be Neighborly to whatever language you speak, No Drill Sargent "Slang" please .............. Richard KC6VKV / WQQH876 :-) ********